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Study: '50% of Misogynistic Tweets From Women' (bbc.com)
An anonymous reader writes: A study performed by researchers behind the Internet campaign "Reclaim," suggests that half of all misogynistic tweets posted on Twitter come from women. The campaign is designed to show the public the impact of hate speech and abuse on social media. They have opened an online forum to discuss ways to make the internet less aggressive, sexist, racist and homophobic. For the study, thinktank Demos counted the number of uses of "slut" and "whore" were used on Twitter to indicate misogyny. They analyzed 1.5 million tweets sent by UK Twitter users over a three-week period and used its own Natural Language Processing tool to filter the tweets in order to determine whether they were used aggressively, conversationally, or for self-identification. Demos found 6,500 unique users being targeted by 10,000 explicitly aggressive and misogynistic tweets. Internationally, they recorded more than 200,000 aggressive tweets using the same terms that were sent to 80,000 people in the same three-week period. It claims it found 50 percent of the abusive tweets to have come from women. BBC also notes a study performed in 2014 from cosmetics firm Dove that found over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five of those tweets were sent by women.
After all, a companion shouldn't have to put up with misogynistic nonsense like this.
... and misogynistic, again proving the need for for to take gender studies degrees.
Clearly these women have deeply rooted cases of internalized misogyny thanks to the always present patriarchy.
Down with STEM!
Help Brendan pay off his student loans
I gotta ask. Does this automated system think sarcastic or even more so, does it include responses to the material as the material itself since it would include many of the same words as responses?
Just because someone says something sexist or funny does not make him a "misogynist". I know lots of people who say sexist stuff, some of which is true, but no one I know actually hates women.
Thanks, Slashdot, for continuing to misuse the term.
Could the terms not have been used — if only in some cases — to indicate unhealthy promiscuity or express some other disapproval (e.g. "He is such a ratings-whore!")?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
So when do they study misandry and start to treat that as seriously as misogyny? You can't be gender inclusive when you officially ignore hate speech and discrimination against half the population.
If 50% of all misogynistic tweets come from women, then it can fairly easily be extrapolated that the whole of modern culture hates women equally. If that's the case, maybe it's the women that need to change?
" ways to make the internet less aggressive, sexist, racist and homophobic"
i stand behind the zeroth law.
The other 50% all come from realDonaldTrump.
the correct headline should be "women and men equally likely post misogynistic tweets", no?
Rerun the test with Bitch and Cunt. See if the demographics don't change.
I'm not saying men don't say 'slut' and 'whore'. But those terms are mostly used by catty bitches talking shit about each other. Truth: Most men kind of like sluts, less work. It's women that hate sluts, sluts drive down 'the market' for pussy.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Does anyone else here really dislike the Discourse forum software they're using for the discussion site?
First of all, I find it really slow. I'm sure it doesn't help that it uses Ruby on Rails on the backend, and a lot of JavaScript on the frontend.
Second of all, the flat discussion is really awful. It's frigging impossible to follow the discussion. It's not obvious who is replying to who. This encourages people to post shitty YouTube/Facebook/Twitter-like "I think that ..." comments with no substance, which results in a total lack of real discussion happening.
Third of all, it's so common to see these sites only allow social media signups. Fuck, I don't use social media! It should always be possible to sign up and log in using just a username and a password.
In my opinion, Discourse embodies everything that's wrong with the Millennial/Hipster approach to software and UI design. Something that should be fast and usable instead becomes slow, bloated and inconvenient thanks to their awful ideas.
How the heck are we supposed to engage in discussion on that site if the forum software they've chosen is so, in my experience, shitty?
Many of the insults available in the English language are gender-specific, especially the stronger ones. It seems like that often leaves little choice but to include gender when you really want to blast someone.
I wonder what the frequency of words like "slut" and "whore" are on the internet vs the frequency of "male" words like "asshole" and "prick".
Just like other slurs, those words are "their words." Perhaps women use them with the justification that they can empathize with the impact of them, but men cannot.
Chewbacon
The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
It's always good to have quantitative data, though the definition of misogynist seems a little vague and unreliable.
But I hope they don't expect anyone to be surprised by this.
Fuck you! If you want a clean one, start your own.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
These cunts should analize Australian tweets.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
i agree women should have their own internet, however i do contend that an inclusive policy be established and all those identifying as men can use the real internet anyway ;)
H.L. Mencken — 'Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.'
I bet you that 50% of Nazi jokes are made by women as well. I make racist, homophobic and sexist jokes. I am in no way any of those things (and no, I am not interested in being told otherwise by a stranger). Those types of jokes and words are funny because we know they are absurd and a bit innapropriate.
This does not mean that racism, homophobia and sexism do not exist. Simply that the only way to identify those attitudes in a person is to discuss what they believe and watch what they do. A study like this only tells us what is happening on the very surface of pop culture. That is interesting in itself, but you must be very careful what you extract from it. As happens so often, these people have started with a conclusion and would have concluded that it was proven no matter what the data said.
Really what it comes down to is there's a certain percentage of the population always actively looking for any excuse to say something upsetting because they derive entertainment from the reactions, or perceived reactions at least. Once you add a veil of anonymity you find that there's nothing left tethering such behavior to factual statements where it comes to things that you can't prove without knowing the identity of the poster. How this could be a big surprise to anyone though really harms my faith in society as a whole.
Wow. We must be married to the same woman!
Progressivism: Parasites helping parasites to help themselves - to other people's stuff.
There's an old joke that goes: "The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents—and they're men!"
(I heard it years ago, right hear on Slashdot.)
quiquid id est, timeo puellas et oscula dantes.
What's the over/under on the majority of these misogynistic women self-identify as "feminists"?
What else can happen when an unstoppable force collides with an immovable object?
If women engage in "misogynistic speech", it must be because men forced them to internalize misogyny! What other explanation could there be?
Trying to get to the truth using simple widespread generalizations and dividing people into groups is a fool's errands that will most likely fail on the worst way possible.
The way society is today, in most cases, only a black person is likely to remain socially (and perhaps physically) unchallenged if calling a black person, including themselves, a "nigger." It fairly clearly follows that only a woman is likely to be able to call another woman a slut under the same broad umbrella of conceptual shared circumstances.
Sometimes a black person may mean "nigger" just as it is defined: ignorant, etc. Or some variation of ironic racist classing, inclusive or not. Sometimes, it's a term of endearment.
Same for women calling each other sluts.
Speaking as a man, if some woman called me a slut, I'd be all like "oh, you bet. No doubt at all. Totally." Without any worries about it. Because I aspire to sluthood. I would totally be down for it... er, up for it... If some woman within my esthetic preference range were to say "hey, wanna screw like bunnies?" :)
Because there is a difference in the male and female perception of who calls whom, what, and why, and how our various self-image / social preconceptions integrate with all that. Turns out we might want to consider each other's feelings, etc. Not to mention potential ass-kicking issues.
There are more women online than men. Probably not enough guys are pretending to be women to make much difference.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Don't try to understand women. Women understand women, and they hate each other.
Those are the words they are using to determine the percentage of female Twitter bullies?
This doesn't prove women bully other women as much as men do, it just proves women are a lot less creative in their bullying (clearly no one involved in the study is actually a woman receiving any typical form of Twitter misogyny). But I guess that's the kind of idiotic non-science you get from a "think tank"...
People are generally socialised to be civil to each other but the relative anonymity of the internet leads people to speak to each other in a way they wouldn't dream of doing in person.
Thank god people at least laugh at MRAs
Yes they do, but the father's amongst them stop laughing and join them when they loose their children to state sponsored sexual discrimination in family court. The common default custody arrangement in US family law is for the man to get 1 day per week custody and the woman to get 6 days per week, the man then has the privilege of paying the expenses for the extra time that is AUTOMATICALLY awarded to the woman. A recent bill in Florida that tried to change the mandated default to 50/50 custody was vetoed by the governor. Ironically every mainstream feminist organisation in the US continues to lobby in support of the only current example of systemic state sponsored sexual discrimination anyone can point to in the US.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
By the same logic, would they conclude that the vast majority of racists against black people are black because they are the ones who use the word "Nigger" (or derivatives) more? I have heard many instances of women calling each other slut as a friendly nickname, with no offense meant. Perhaps a bit misguided, but definitely not misogynistic on itself.
Though in all fairness, the study itself does not conclude that half of misogynistic tweets come from women. They report that half of the usage of the words 'slut' and 'whore' is by women, but they make a distinction between casual use and offensive use (and more distinctions within this). While not peer-reviewed, the study makes for interesting reading.
call other woman sluts because they are affraid "their" men will more easily start an affair with them and they don't want to invest effort in more sex to keep them,
I have a female friend that resigned from a company purely because there were no men on the team and she was tired of backstabbing and gossiping. In the interview for her new job, she specifically asked if there were men on the team before accepting the role.
misogyny, n: Disagreeing with a Feminist.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Phrasing along the lines of, "just another dumb bitch", generalizes the slur and indicates an overall attitude. "You stupid bitch", is specific, indicating only an attitude towards one individual.
Gosh, I'm old enough to get that joke :-(
bickerdyke
I believe this. Women are catty. How many times have you heard women complement another woman on her new pixie haircut? All the time. How many times have you heard men do the same thing? Rarely. Women are really competitive against one another. I have personally witnessed a female manager bust on (and eventually fire) a far-more-talented female subordinate for no other reason than they were a threat.
I don't mean to say that women can't be sexist at all. But if a women is treating another women in a certain way, how can you consider that sexist? Isn't sexism defined as a negative treatment of someone of one sex by someone of the other sex?
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Like Libertarians, there are a bunch of different branches on the the feminist tree, with Victimists and to a degree Radfems getting the most camera time. "You will always be judged by your worst members."
Some Feminist varieties:
Fix it Yourself Feminists: If a 12 year old boy can use a hoist to pull a car engine and rebuild it, so can a 12 year old girl. You do not need to teach your son not to rape because I taught my daughters to put all their rounds in the 10 ring.
Fix it Yourself Feminists are usually not very tolerant of whining.
Humanist: Generally they believe that People are people, treat them well until they earn different treatment. They feel that if you just want to benefit yourself and people like you, at the expense of others, you can go fuck a light socket.
Fatminists: Women for whom supporting, enabling, and/or encouraging obesity, is the focus of the feminist cause. BBWs unite!.. at the buffet!! Fat acceptance now! Many become or are also, femmisogynists.
They are heavily dependent on internet echo chambers and the idea that "If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth."
Victimists: "The Man", "Patriarchy", "male privilege", etc is why they are not a success. To be a credible member you are required to have been raped (violently raped, date raped, thought raped, eye raped, fart raped, etc). If you haven't been raped, then make up a time that you were raped.
You are fully entitled to become physically ill when one says "You are not a real woman, if you have never been raped."
They are always finding misogyny in everything. They are currently heavily driving emotional investment in rape as a concept and a word, so as to weaponize the word "rape", they have seen some respectable success in this endeavor.
The other reason they push to make rape a more and more horrible crime against women (not men) is just building the best victim card that can be played whenever they want. This is why you see them say that it is better to be murdered than raped. A rape is worse than the holocaust!
Keep in mind that other groups have their Victimists. MRAs/red pills tend to also be Victimists for the male cause.
Mechanically this works because of our species built in sense of fairness but talking about that is a few thousand more words.
Femmisogynists. Hate the female power base (sex) and women who are strong in it because they have no power there or are very uncomfortable with it (growing up in a religious culture that hates women/sex can do this to anyone). They try to shame women who are attractive. They hate attractive women more than any misogynists ever could hate a woman.
They like words like "objectified" and "sexualized".
Some will say they are "sex positive" but that is a laughable lie when you listen to the bile they spew all over the subject.
Ethical sluts: Know their power base and are not ashamed of it, they are in many cases, proud of it. This is really impressive after thousands of years of Abrahamic religions hating them (women), as well as Femmisogynists hating the shit out of them. In their ability to tell society it is wrong and can go fuck itself, they keep punk alive.
They feel that they have the same right as a man to go around topless.
They are despised by the Femmisogynists. To quote a Femmisogynist "You are all 'Tools of the patriarchy'!!! Stupid whores! You are hurting feminism you dumb bitches!".
If you consider having sex as your power base to be bad, consider that men have violence as their power base. Also consider that the sex power base is most likely the reason that we as a species live in huge cities and have sent people to the moon, rather than just continuing to roam the plain in small groups of hunter gatherers digging for grubs and running from leopards.
Lastly: if you are a woman who considers having sex as a power base to be bad, you are probably a rabid woman hating Femmisogynist.. though the misogynists sure hate the power base when it is used for power.. or at least when they figure out t
Misogyny is an equal opportunity employer. (Racism is trying to become an equal opportunity employer, for shame!)
What happened to the good old intertubes, where men were men, women were men and the children were FBI agents?
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