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Julian Assange: Google is 'Directly Engaged' In Hillary Clinton's Campaign (infowars.com)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via Infowars: Speaking to the "New Era of Journalism: Farewell to Mainstream" symposium, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange stated Google is "directly engaged" with the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton. Assange said, "The chairman of Google, Eric Schmidt, set up a company to run the digital component of Hillary Clinton's campaign." As reported by Quartz in late 2015, an under-the-radar startup known as "The Groundwork" was funded by Schmidt "to ensure that Clinton has the engineering talent needed to win the election." Assange went on to say that "[...] once Hillary Clinton becomes president, those people in Google, like Jared Cohen, will be placed into positions around the new Clinton presidency." Controlling the majority of the world's smart phones, Assange adds, raises even more serious concerns in light of the company's growing and monopolistic influence. "Google controls 80 percent of the smart phone market through its control of Android and if you control the device itself -- that people use to read -- then anything that they connect to through that device you have control over as well. [...] Google has gotten into bed with the Obama administration in a very significant way," Assange stated. "It is the company that visits the White House more than any other -- averaged once per week in the last 4 years."
Trump 2016. The wall will be built. LYING GOOGLE won't change this.
Sounds more like monopoly than democracy
No company gets the breadth of google without getting in bed with the government.
Someone else for President Trump to take Sweet Revenge on.
Glad they are picking the better side.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
look its a propaganda bot
We know that our data is secure on a Windows phone.
What chance of a smart phone that you can actually control?
Suspected rapist and fugitive from justice harbors paranoid conspiracy theories. Film at 11.
I have no idea what the details are. But Sweden is a very liberal country. Assange is holed up in an embassy to avoid rape charges. And above all, he isn't a US citizen. The man has issues, given the rape charges, that won't go way, with women. And what does he think? The other guy would be better? He has serious issues.
why is this tripe newsworthy?
>No company gets the breadth of google without getting in bed with the government.
very insightful. correcting typos and reposting
Can you build the wall on the northern border as well, and shut down your airports?
I'm sick of Americans getting out of the asylum.
Wasn't something like this portrayed in House of Cards?
Also, would love to see some evidence to the fact, though I have to admit it doesn't sound so farfetched.
Google, like the BBC in the UK, is a corporation DESIGNED to serve the State Intelligence services.
This current presidential election was designed to annoint the insane and infinitely evil Clinton as the next president of the USA- and bring the USA into a state of war with Iran almost immediately after. Those that control the Republican and Democrat party had arranged for her to have no viable competition. Then Trump happened.
Trump is a wild card (like the popular rise of Obama who ended up costing Clinton her chance last time). The BIG mistake was when, out of fear, Trump was allowed to be an OFFICIAL Republican candidate when it looked like he'd have to run as an 'Independent'.
Google is throwing its entire NSA grid functionality behind Clinton in a desperate attempt to salvage the prospects of the war mongering butcher. And Slashdot is in lockstep with Google.
Trump is a LIBERAL popularist who wears the clothes of a PARODY republican, because he is media savvy enough to understand that by playing the political game this way, he gains needed national support. Clinton is a vile mass murdering monster- the face of the US military industrial complex. A Clinton victory would bring Mankind that much closer to extinction. Look at how her supporter- Slashdot- sells more Russia bashing propaganda (designed to bring the USA and Russia into direct military conflict) on the same page as this story.
Obvious that the google can decide this election, but it has nothing to do with Hillary.
With the personal information that they collect and a smidgen more abuse, the google can easily spot the Trump voters.
Then threaten to expose them if Trump wins. Shame will do the rest.
I'm not saying that ALL Trump voters would be too shamed to be publicly identified as such, but plenty would be, led by the smart cowards who can see the train wreck coming and are afraid of being blamed for it.
Actually the google could do much more with what they know, both the carrots and the sticks. We just have to pray that they stay focused on the money and stay with their motto: "All your attention are belong to us, the google."
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
You don't need to answer that. Except in the voting booth, of course. But then "would you rather have a criminal or a lunatic as president" is like "would you like me to puke or to shit on your fries". Obviously, the answer is neither. But whatever you answer, you are likely to get both anyway.
I'm really wondering how people can sustain such strong negative emotions towards Hillary. Maybe I'm just too cold blooded, but she seems to be a pretty typical lawyer of the political sort. The only difference is that she's been targeted by the most negative propaganda, but I have to discount the so-called Republican Party's propaganda these days because they have clearly crossed the line and are now putting party politics ahead of everything else.
Looking at it from a historical perspective, there are plenty of comparisons to be made. For example, the previous leaders in party discipline were Lenin's Bolsheviks. I think Trump's personal insecurities should be compared with Stalin's. Lots of people have expressed concern about Bernie's extreme supporters, but they are irrelevant now, and it actually seems likely that the most extreme ones may wind up with Trump's extremists, who are already reminding me of early supporters of the Nazi Party...
By the way, did you know that Trump spent an estimated $80,000 calling for the death penalty for some teenagers who were convicted of the rape and murder of a Central Park jogger in 1989. If the Donald had gotten his way, they may well have been executed before the actual murderer was identified in 2002.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Julian Assange has previously done great work unmasking the nefarious schemes of Google to enslave the world.
Maybe, but I can barely make out what you're saying because your horse is too high.
Can you build the wall on the northern border as well, and shut down your airports?
I'm sick of Americans getting out of the asylum.
I have a better idea: "Operation Canadian Freedom!!!"
Julian Assange hey everyone, look at me, look at me, i'm still relevant, I have the scoop!
Trump 2016. The wall will be built. LYING GOOGLE won't change this
Allahu Akhbar!! Oops, sorry, different group of fanatics. In the longer run it doesn't matter, I suspect - American democracy is seriously ill and needs to relaunch itself in a fundamental way; only it is hard to see how that can happen peacefully.
It is interesting to observe the two elections, the EU referendum in UK and the presidential elections in the US; in UK it is mostly fairly cool-headed with at least the Remain side trying to lay out a somewhat coherent, pragmatic argument, and the Leave side responding in kind, although rather more emotionally, I feel. Compare to the US elections, where things are getting ever more hysterical; and the actual election campaign hasn't even started officially yet. I don't know - where's your dignity, if you don't mind my asking?
It would be a punishment of sin to be obliged to watch on TV for the next eight years either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. I bow down on my knees, and I repent.
But what about the asylum seekers? Will they be turned back at the border?
Maybe, but I can barely make out what you're saying because your horse is too high.
Although there would be nothing wrong if Google actually supported Clinton, Eric Schmidt isn't Google. If he wants to set up think tanks or support groups for Clinton, that's his business. Ditto if Jared Cohen supports Clinton and cooperates with her. They have a right to engage in political activities just like anybody else.
(Note that I'm defending their right to do this even though I despise Clinton and Obama.)
OK, so Google will work with Trump in stead. Don't think he wants what they have?
sudo ergo sum
I don't know - where's your dignity, if you don't mind my asking?
I don't know, concealed carried ?
I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of killer sig, which this margin is too narrow to contain.
Not exactly the best choice of words for a (de facto) suspect of sexual assault to let out, if you know what I mean. I totally believe in his innocence though, it's just that the remark that made me giggle.
What to say. Things are changing quickly: we face a second (or third?) industrial revolution which is going to upset society at a global scale in a way we barely imagine.
At this point capital is over-powerful, "classical" national states are dwindling in significance, all the little achievements like rule of law and democracy, the dream of Human Rights, etc seem to be melting in the harsh sun of Capital Dictates Everything.
Politicians everywhere are dead set on a model of constant growth (a minimum percentage always represents (super-) exponential growth, and we geeks know what exponential means, right?), which isn't working. "Jobs, jobs!" you listen everywhere whereas at the same time self-driving cars and deep learning prepare themselves to eradicate a big swath of jobs.
What to do? Keep up the good fight! There are people everywhere doing that. Never give up.
And don't forget: life can be fun, in spite of all that.
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The Elite deals with the Elite. The One Percenters, unlike us dispossessed rabble, do not fight among themselves. No, they make deals and they plan ahead, they don't waste time in pointless bickering. Why when there will be soon a whole world at their disposal, free of us human trash?
It seems Julian Assange is tired to see Snowden getting all the media attention these days. So, he decided to spit some kind of bullshit in the hope to bring the spotlights back to him.
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Here in Canada, our British cousins are already helping us out with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFfUSxPUXKA
http://brickingitforcanada.com/
Of course, we're happy for all the help we can get with this wall, especially from our American cousins! :) Please be advised that Tronald J. Dump won't be making us pay for any walls though...
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Sorry Julian, you aren't Snowden.
P.S. get back on your meds.
Powerful person provides money or knowledge to forward a political leader who he knows will provide access to power for personal or financial gain.
How ignorant of history do you have to be to realize that this has been the pattern of human politics since the emergence from primate tribes so small that the strongest alpha male became the leader buy killing or threatening to kill every other male strong enough to compete for alpha?
Every single, viable candidate for president has had the backing of massive financial wealth with the intent to influence politics or a cult following with the skills to sway the population. Do you think newspapers, when they were the key communications mechanism, stayed above that? Hell no. Do you think JP Morgan bailing out the US Treasury at the end of the 19th century was out of the goodness of his heart? Fuck no - he was in it for the power and the money, and he was rich enough that it worked and made him hat much richer and more powerful.
Julian needs to get off his high horse and realize that he's just telling ever single person who knows history what we ALREADY know. The people at the top are corrupt as sin, because that's how you get to the top. You're really just hoping you have a choice where one of the candidates has corruptions which match your personal desires.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Assange is exhibiting his custom blend of paranoia and newsmaking. Plus this is all well known - hidden in the artwork of the dollar bill. Next?
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
Good thing we aren't giving any credence to any wingnut conspiracy sites.
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I suspect you are correct. It will likely continue to escalate over the next several election cycles until something breaks. It is interesting to see. Working at a large company with a Global Security group that issues travel advisories and things I always wondered "what the hell" when I would see things like "election in progress in (country x), unrest likely, avoid travel for 3 weeks". I have a feeling that the US is headed to be on that list someday in the near future though.
A friend of mine recently posited that what american democracy needs is a "reboot", or "fresh start", or "rebuilding". He said the best way to do that was to nuke it all from orbit and then start rebuilding, and that a vote for Donald Trump was the closest thing to "burn the forest so we can replant" that he had at his disposal.
Microsoft setup the Republicans...
Not too likely - Microsoft took the Republicans.
No, the wall won't be built. Even Trump knows it won't, but it makes for a good political hot topic. The wall would have to span across multiple agencies, and they would have to approve it, past land not owned by the government and through land that would require years of study on its effect on the little critters that live there.
No - sorry - the wall won't be built. You can bet on that.
No one in any thread in this post deals with facts. Just labeling one side loons and diminishing any discussion with ridicule.
If revolution is what it takes, it's coming. It's clear that both sides have drawn lines in the sand.
Google and Obama have been scratching eachother's backs for the past eight years. No surprise that their next purchase was Hillary.
I suspect he isn't quitting because he can still win. It involves all the superdelegates switching sides, but it can still happen.
Lots of things can happen in theory that won't in reality. Yes in principle he could still get the nomination. It is extremely unlikely at this point unless Hillary has a major medical issue or some other catastrophe occurs that her campaign can't manage. I would probably prefer Bernie as the candidate but it would take a minor miracle for him to get the nomination at this point.
Now why would the superdelegates switch to Bernie? Well, the FBI hasn't finished their investigation in Hillary Clinton's time as Secretary of State yet...
They won't switch to Bernie unless Hilllary drops out. Wishful thinking to assume otherwise. If the FBI hasn't got anything yet regarding the private server I very much doubt it will ever be a real issue beyond some poo for republicans to fling at her.
What I don't get about Hillary is why she seems to draw such special hate from some people. I get disagreement with her political stances and have no problem with an honest difference of opinion. I don't agree with much of what she says as well but it seems to be more than that. Clearly some of the ire is poorly disguised sexism. A powerful smart woman scares a lot of insecure people both men and surprisingly many women too. Many claim they don't trust her but there is NO evidence that she is meaningfully more or less trustworthy than most any other politician running for high office. To get to high office almost by definition means doing some things that put skeletons in your closet. By default I assume all of them are power seeking self interested liars and if you don't then you are an idiot. I don't trust Hillary but I don't trust any of her opponents (except maybe Bernie by just a little) any more than her and some I trust far less (Trump) with real power. At least with Hillary I have a pretty good idea what I'm getting even if I have to hold my nose at times.
Google will never cross the line to evil- because it was born on that side of the line.
The EU referendum in the UK has been a total disaster. The Leave side in particular just spews lies and half truths, repeating them often enough for them to become facts in some people's minds. I mean easily verifiable lies too, completely bare faced.
The worst part are the voters though. You hear endless moronic complaints. "We just want the facts", as if there is someone out there with a crystal ball who can see all possible futures and tell them exactly what will happen in either case. Are these people shocked when the weather forecast turns out to be wrong? Well, presumably not, because the other standard argument is that anyone who has ever been wrong about anything ever cannot be trusted. Apparently they only want to listen to those people making economic predictions who have never been wrong, if only the biased liberal media would allow them on TV...
I heard someone complaining that she didn't know who here MEPs are or who to vote for when the European elections come round. Literally complaining that she is too ignorant to vote and unable to do anything about it, like google the answer.
The whole thing has become dominated by memes. You have the "get rid of red tape" meme, that always avoids mentioning exactly what red tape they want to get rid of because a) all red tape is bad, even the stuff that covers that gap in the fence by the cliff, and b) it's workers rights and occupational safety, lead in paint etc, the stuff that costs businesses money. Then you have the particularly nasty "immigrants are responsible for everything that's wrong" meme that seems to ignore recent history, and the "I know how to fly this plane better than you" meme about taking back control from Brussels.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The title and summary don't even agree.
The title says Google is directly engaged, but the summary says another company is the one that is engaged. Just because the company was started by someone on Google's board doesn't mean the company is Google.
Slashdot really has turned into a steaming pile of shit under these new "editors."
Just lost a lot of respect for /. for circulating a story from a known conspiracy web site that famously claimed the Boston Marathon Bombing was a "false flag" operation by FBI (http://www.infowars.com/hollywood-producer-claims-boston-bombing-was-a-false-flag-attack/). I know there's new ownership here, but can we try to at least maintain a semblance of respectability, rationality and integrity??
look it's a clueless poster who calls whomever they disagree with "bots"
The EU at least allows members to leave peacefully if they want. The last time a number of US states wanted to leave, they were conquered by the remaining part of the empire.
Sheeple have their leader chosen for them like Madame Clinton. Her only ambitions are for herself, not the country. As vulgar as the Donald is, I respect he genuinely wants to make a difference even if some of it is a compromise (like forcing illegals to come back and get their paperwork).
As much as I agree with you that Trump would never be able to build the wall the way he says he would, do you really think he'd let something like an environmental impact survey stop him? He seems like he'd just write an executive order saying it's exempt from those (regardless of whether he has the political power to do so) or would get someone who is willing to sign anything for the right amount of cash ("He's the best surveyor! Fantastic!").
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
The term of office for a US President is 4 years.
The current president was elected in the 2008 election and re-elected in 2012.
I expect him to serve an 8 year term.
I am not sure what is meant by "Someone who is changed every 5 years" in the preceding comment or how that is applicable.
I am also not sure why this is considered insufficient time. It is not like we are taking some high school kid and giving them the job. Presidents typically have a life before presidency that often builds their skills for such a job.
So what do you do to control immigration? Who decides who enters the country: the citizens or non-citizens?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Instead of a Super Intelligent and Evil A.I. program, you have a Super Evil Screechy Harpy.
Dignity is for pussies.
Seig Heil!!
Nice try Drumpfkind. Republicans were willing to nominate a fascist after years of brainwashing, but sane Americans will reject him.
Infowars run by a mentally-ill person, and is the exact opposite of a reliable source. I wish I was surprised to see Slashdot sink this low, but it's been coming for a while.
Pretty much what I have suspected. Obama went from 'cash for clunkers' and infrastructure at the beginning, to '8 billion dollars of taxpayer money invested in self-driving cars', and 'whatever can be automated, will be', at the end. Eric Schmidt and his ilk have gone from being kinda creepy to a legiyimate danger to individual freedom across the globe. How we can turn this around, I do not know. :/
I've seen several of the privileged Sanders supporters make that claim. Their lack of empathy for the people who would be harmed the most by a swing to the fascist right has been noted.
The EU must perish!
Before it really grows to that abomanation EU federal state that the masons and pan-europeans want...
As opposed to the facists on the left.
The EU referendum in the UK has been a total disaster. The Leave side in particular just spews lies and half truths, repeating them often enough for them to become facts in some people's minds. I mean easily verifiable lies too, completely bare faced.
Here across the pond it seems like the opposite. Except that the Stay side is going way over the edge trying to generate fear.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
That's because they understand that there's, in practice, no such thing as the Fascist Right, since Fascism has deep roots in far Left totalitarianism and to this day has more in common with Socialism than Conservatism from a philosophical standpoint.
If we leave the EU, there will be plenty to be afraid about.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
For those outside the US, Hillary is the hawk urging for "regime change" and invading other countries.
No more so than any number of Republicans and less than some of them. Yeah she's more hawkish than Bernie but that's not news.
With her as president, it won't take long before the next war(s) start and other countries are called upon to clean the US-caused mess.
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Can't be any worse than Bush the Lesser.
Trump is more focused inward, proposes a more isolationalist view and seems less likely to mess up anywhere else on the planet.
Spare me. The only thing Trump is focused on is the Trump brand. Trump isn't proposing any sort of focused policy and the "proposals" he has floated are idiotic. I shudder to think how fast Trump would manage to cause international incidents by running his mouth and his shoot first ask questions never approach to policy issues. 2/3 of the job of president is foreign relations and I can think of few people less appropriate for that job than Donald Trump.
If Misconstrued Donald doesn't get his act together, he'll be running as the head of the Tea Party USA with nobody else on board. Remember that Misconstrued Donald's older brother died of alcholism at a young age, so it runs in the family. Misconstrued Donald is a hot mess, has made a bloody mess of dozens of business ventures. Then Misconstrued Donald blames his failures on other people. Leadership!
One of the most prominent Leave campaigners claimed that staying in the EU risked women being raped by Muslims yesterday. The fear-mongering over immigration from that side is intense, far worse from than the mostly justifiable warnings about economic ruin if we leave.
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This:
The Leave campaign consists entirely of lies. The Remain campaign has some good arguments, but that is apparently not good enough, they have to have lies too.
The latest Leave meme is that we will not be safe in our beds because the EU won't let us deport foreign convicted criminals. They fail to mention
a) that is false
b) the majority of crime in Britain is committed by British people
c) deporting criminals just dumps the problem on somebody else. Raped and murdered French people are not somehow worth less than raped and murdered British people.
d) if we leave the EU, we'll have to take back all the British criminals that foreign countries are trying to get rid of but can't because of this mythical EU regulation.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
Nobody has ever left the EU. We don't know if we'll be allowed to leave peacefully.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
The FBI has enough evidence that they believe is cause for an indictment. The Department of Justice is just sitting on it and not pursuing the indictment.
That is not true at all apparently. The FBI has found "no criminal wrongdoing". The Justice Department isn't sitting on anything because so far there is nothing to sit on. While the investigation goes on, so far it is much ado about (almost) nothing.
The whole thing is sleazy and it's showing just how incestuous DC can be.
Sleazy politicians? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you... [/sarcasm]
You liberals are so cute. Still dont know what a facist is?
The opportunity to influence events and control destiny is irresistible. And it should be expected, anticipated, and so diminished and ultimately defeated.
Hillary is plainly an unindicted felon, a reasonable conclusion given the public statements made so far by so many credible sources. While it may disrupt the election and cause much chaos politically if she were in fact indicted, and worse if she were convicted, more likely she will be either pardoned or merely escape indictment. No action will bring all of the involved institutions into disrepute, but most of them already enjoy terrible reputations with the public, so there is little lost there. And the powers that support her are without shame or conscience, either believing they are in the right to implement their agendas, or they will take power by any means. No one should be surprised if she escapes judgment and stands for election. You who would challenge my assertion that the public record is sufficient to find her at least under substantial suspicion of criminal acts should avoid trolling me on this - my mind is made up, and if you have not already examined the record, you are not likely to do so now, and I understand. Hillary can win in November if she gets enough Berners to give in and vote for the lesser of two evils - Corruption v. Not Liberal.
Trump is, first, not a Republican. No, he is not. But he is much less a Democrat, and if he planned to run an insurgent campaign from the beginning, he certainly would not oppose Hillary with a party in total accordance with her candidacy. He has been masterful in his campaign, but that is not a good thing for the GOP. His appeal is only heightened by the abject failure of GOP leadership to actually function as an opposition party in Congress. Whatever the reasons, the GOP leadership has abdicated that role, and are now merely figureheads maintaining their personal power, prestige, and wealth. Trump is being the authentic Donald Trump, a creature New Yorkers know well, and he has mixed business acumen with instinct and opportunistic actions to wear down his opponents. Successfully. he is invincible if he can navigate the next 5 months without a major gaffe, and if he can successfully isolate Hillary and paint her with her own brush. Maybe.
The GOP primary was decided when Trump stated on Fox News that "His (Ted Cruz) father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous", and no one, virtually no one challenged such an unsupportable, plainly fantastic and questionable claim, I don't doubt that Ted Cruz met with his advisers and essentially asked why, in a campaign where the truth no longer matters, should he try to run on a platform of anything rational when Trump can say literally anything without being called on it.
The only question for the general election in November seems, now, to be which side the media will choose, since that is the side that will win. And Google, Facebook, et al are the new media, same as the old media.Of course they will exert their influence and control to their own advantages, severally and individually. How do we, individuals, survive this? By being as suspicious of all media as we are of all politicians and business. They are all out to manipulate us. Know this when you read or listen or watch them, always.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
The AC is right, you know... This whole "bot" thing needs to be retired, along with "sheeple." Make a counter argument, or just say nothing. Better yet, say something clever or funny. "Bot" is no longer either of those.
Trump may possibly provide that reboot, if we're lucky.
The surplus office furniture/equipment auctions as they empty out large buildings full of worthless-fuck government employees will bankrupt most of the big office equipment manufacturers for years after.
(I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.)
Wingnuts actually believe that. If you immerse yourself in far-right propaganda, and lack critical thinking skills, you'll wind up so brainwashed that you'll actually believe the Nazis were the "left." Those idiots blame everything on the tricksy left, even now when they've nominated an actual fascist who promises to commit impeachable offenses.
Opposing fascists isn't actually fascism, but yes, the Sanders supporters can be just as extreme as Trump supporters. Sanders didn't win the nomination because Democrats learned to marginalize their extremists, while the Republicans let the extremists take over the party.
Or Johnson!
Under the both Bush's admins the petro-chem industry was part of the White House staff, under the Obama admin Hollywood wannabe's held reign, so I guess it must be Silicon Valley's turn, should Hillary make it that far. Not sure who Trump would have, the folks that get weekend passes from mental institutions ?
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Is there a -1 Trump option?
LOL. I'd like to see the Euro take on Britain and the US. Allowed to leave. Indeed.
So what about her big contributions she got from the supposedly evil Koch brother also??? No one going to cover that too?
The groundwork is company providing monitoring for scada systems ceo is a founding member and ex naval academy guy that help in reponse to the 3 mile island incident. Think house arrest for Assange has made him a bigger nut and conspiracy theorist than he already was. Time to drag him out by his toes and send him to Sweden to be convicted.
I haven't seen any extremism from Trump supporters. In fact, all the protests, violence, and screaming is coming from the opposing crowds. Most likely it's organized by Hillary's team and made to look like it's the fault of Sander's supporters, which is a double-win for her. And people fall for it. Every time.
I never knew the US was a part of the EU
Why is this not a story on slashdot's front page, then?
How about because the investigation isn't over and it's not news at this point. Why would "nothing to report so far" be worthy of the slashdot front page? As of right now there is no story and no findings of criminal wrongdoing. That may change but right now any implications that Hillary has broken any laws are suppositions not supported by actual evidence.
Oh, because Mediaite is a known bullshit news site.
20 seconds on Google will find you hundreds of them. Look it up yourself. Mediaite is merely the first on the comes up and they were merely passing on what CNN is reporting. If CNN is not a "real" news outlet I don't know what is.
So far there are no findings of note. None. The investigation continues. If there are findings worthy of prosecution I'm sure we'll hear all about it. If Hillary did break the law then she should get whatever punishment is appropriate.
So facts are "fear mongering" to you now? You went off the deep end long ago. You're not only a danger to yourself, but others.
Warnings about the economy are only justifiable because the EU assholes and globalists will do everything they can to punish the UK if they do leave (think trade embargoes, tariffs, bogus accusations justifying war against them, etc) . Other than that, the UK would do just fine on its own, like it always had.
One of the most prominent Leave campaigners claimed that staying in the EU risked women being raped by Muslims yesterday. The fear-mongering over immigration from that side is intense, far worse from than the mostly justifiable warnings about economic ruin if we leave.
Well that's actually true. It's been going on in many EU countries, and the extent of it is often suppressed. The response from German officials is that women in Germany should "cover up" when they go out, or make sure they have a male escort.
The EU is now proposing quotas of middle eastern immigrants that all member countries must accept. So it might be fear-mongering, but it's based on facts and a predictable future outcome.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
Greece was offered a leave. They turned it down.
Turns out (shock of all shocks) they were just using the threat of leaving as a negotiating tactic.
Maybe, but I can barely make out what you're saying because your horse is too high.
Since when is info wars a credible news source? Come on Slashdot wtf already?
You can control immigration very simply indeed.
Instrument a reliable, easily accessible national ID system... available only to citizens and legal immigrants. Issue this at government expense to every verifiable citizen. There are nearly 400 million Americans, if we assume that the card costs $20 mass produced (a vast overestimate), the cost is $8B, a pittance compared to what we spend on wars (or benefits for illegals). Issuing this at govt expense will also neutralize complaints from democrats that requiring the ID card is unfair to the poor.
Add a law that says that no employer can hire anyone without one... and make the burden of proof on the employer, not the employee. If an employer is caught hiring non-citizens, legal punitive measures to be taken against the employer.
Oh, and also, cut off all benefits to those without such an ID. You can extend benefits to babies born here, no need for any legal fights about constitutionality.
If illegal immigrants cannot find work, they will stop coming. No need for a wall.
By the way, this card can also function as a voter ID, thus satisfying the concerns of republicans and taking a potent wedge issue out of the equation.
It is ridiculous that employers of illegal immigrants (like farmers) can go on the national media and whine about their lack of ability to hire illegals (thus explicitly admitting that they are knowingly hiring illegal immigrants) and suffer no repercussions!
If third-world countries like India can implement a national ID service, I don't see why the US cannot.
... Assange hasn't been in the news.
Coincidence?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
So here is Hillary Clinton having a speech last night after essentially securing the Democratic nomination. She touched on most of the typical democratic talking points...equality for all, helping the working class get a fair shot, etc. This is while wearing a $12,000 Armani jacket: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/06...
If this isn't the height of arrogance I don't know what is. That jacket is worth more than the yearly salaries of some of her supporters. Not to mention that many of the people on her campaign are unpaid volunteers. At least when these phony celebrities show up on humanitarian missions in some of the poorest parts of the world they at least have the humility to leave the Rolex at home.
This is the same party that was criticizing Trump for allegedly lying about how much money he raised for Veterans groups (he claimed 6 million, it was actually 5.6 million. By the time it's all said and done, it will be over 6 million). Emperor Hillary has donated a grand total of $75,000 to Veterans groups - over the past 8 years. This is from a woman with a net worth that far exceeds $100,000,000, much of it in dubious fashion. Am I surprised? Not in the least.
I wonder how many of her supporters are made up of the following:
1) People that support her solely based on the fact that she is a woman, putting aside past and current scandals and suitability for office questions.
2) People that simply hate Trump, for whatever reason.
What is striking to me is the popularity that Bernie Sanders still enjoys. I watched his speech last night in California and I'm telling you his supporters are worked up and they love this guy. I've read polls where up to 25% of Sanders supporters will not support or vote for Hillary. Some of them will even vote for Trump. That has to be alarming to the Clinton campaign, especially in light of Sanders vow to hang in to the bitter end.
I would say that the Emperor has no clothes but evidently she does...expensive ones at that.
Sure, but that reboot won't be kind to Sanders supporters. If you think a "hard reboot" or a violent revolution in the United States is going to be kind to those on the left you're objectively retarded.
- don't give preferential treatment to the parents of anchor babies. They can get in line like everyone else.
- do give preferential treatment to people with English skills as speaking the language of the country is an obvious win
- do give preferential treatment to immigrants with desired skills which is again an obvious win
- if you (or your family or other people you might sponsor) break laws then you get a fast track deportation.
Essentially this is to say do what is best for the country and the legal citizens who live there. Not hard really.
Marginalize... Right.. Cause almost 50% of Democrats are Sanders supporters and a solid chunk of those would switch to Trump rather than have Hillary win. Seems marginalized to me
Actually, it was soviet propaganda the one that established that the Fascists (which self-defined as socialist parties) were actually the right.
But here is the funny thing. Communists call everyone but themselves the right. Therefore, their definition of what a "right" party is, is not objective and highly biased. They are also masters of propaganda and brainwashing.
On the other hand, the people that say that fascists and nazis were socialists are being rational thinkers. They not only look at the name of the parties and see SOCIALIST in big letters, they also look at the politics, and they are strikingly similar. The fact that anti-fascists and fascists hate each other is because they are rabid dogs fighting for the same bone. Everyone knows that left-leaning political factions hate each other and accuse the others of heresy and not being the true socialists. It's not right-left extremism, it is left-left hate. Hence why the horseshoe theory is wrong, because it wrongly assumes that the extremists are from opposite ideologies, when they share the same ideology of hate and violence. They just used different lies to trick their respective populations.
... they can even keep and bear arms.
For reference, see Citizens United.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Very impressive, Donald.
You got first post with those tiny fingers. They're the best fingers. Well done.
look its a propaganda bot
Is that the Search Engine that doesn't show Senator Clinton as voting for the Southern Border Fence?
Apocalypse Cancelled, Sorry, No Ticket Refunds
Does this have to be a conspiracy to increase government surveillance? Couldn't it just be related to net neutrality?
Britain could focus more on leading the Commonwealth of Nations and forming their own EU which they run.
Consider the source, a rapist and probably spy for the Soviet Union / Russia / Red China.
Like having an economy like Norway where the salaries mat have those of other European countries, where the government has invested budget surpluses into a trust fund for the entire population.
No wonder the bankers and international money lenders are scared.
There are a lot more people joining the protests as a means to get drunk and cause disruption. They don't have real political views they just want to rumble. Same thing happened with the Occupy Oakland protests. If you accuse those people of being typical of leftists then why not accuse the violent Trump supporters as being typical Trump supporters?
You haven't been watching the news then or it's been going through some sort of pro-Trump filter.
That only works if the foreign, home and immigration offices haven't been taken over by left-winger.
UK did have an ID card system once, but a legal dispute between one citizen and a police officer made it optional.
Sure... and the right has always been on the side of the pure and holy since the beginning of the universe. The Nazis were just a socialist plot to discredit the right, Mussolini was a commie stooge, and so forth I suppose. Modern proponents of the "right" are insistent that no fascist was ever conservative or on the right because they are trying to create the myth the the right is always good and all evil throughout history has only come from the "left". Left and right are all illusions anyway and it's a simplistic notion that you can plot politics in a single dimension. Fascists were strong on authoritarianism, militarism, and nationalism, but inconsistent and vague with regards to economic and social policies.
And gave her a free email account, just what she needs!
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One of the most prominent Leave campaigners claimed that staying in the EU risked women being raped by Muslims yesterday.
That's obviously true. Will more than 0 women be raped by immigrants? Yes, obviously. How important that is is subjective, of course.
But of course, the most important fact about the immigration debate in the UK (and to a lesser extent in the US), is that each side only talks about the other side's plan, while neither side actually puts forth a number of immigrants per year they think is best, nor any sort of plan to limit immigration to that number. Neither side apparently has any concrete plan, but both sides are sure the other side's plan is wrong.
mostly justifiable warnings about economic ruin if we leave.
The economic question is more interesting: if you believe the EU will drain the wealthier nations, then collapse entirely, then the UK should leave; otherwise leaving seems quite negative. That's one heck of an open question, with many trillions of (whatever currency) in bonds as the stakes in that bet.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Americans have been stuck in a two party system for so long that they can only think in single dimensions. A pro-gun-control person is assumed to automatically be on the left, and an anti-abortion person must be on the right, the concept that one person can be both is discounted as so rare that it can be ignored. So when they look at fascists in history they automatically assume they must be the opposite of what good people are; they rounded up guns so they must be on the left, they were pro military growth so they must be on the right, and so forth. The idea that they were neither left nor right isn't considered.
You can very easily control immigration... by issuing a national ID to citizens and legal immigrants only, implementing an easy verification system and putting the onus of verification on the employers. No need to build a wall.
The IDs can be issued at Govt expense, thus neutralizing complaints from democrats that it would be unfair to poor people. Also tie the reception of benefits to said ID.
The IDs can also be used to verify voters, thus neutralizing republican complaints about crooked voting.
Assuming $20 per ID (a vast overestimate), you can issue such IDs to every single one of the $400M american citizens for $8B. Far cheaper than building and maintaining walls!
Also, aggressive enforcement; if an employer is found to have employed someone without verification, punitive fines. I find it ridiculous that farmers can go on national TV and bemoan their inability to hire illegals, with no repercussions whatsoever!
No jobs and no benefits means no incentive for illegals to come and stay here. Also a natural motivation for self-deportation. No "roundups" or "camps" necessary.
Then all the countries can form their own Europe with themselves in charge! The only problem is all those lesser countries who also want to be in charge. They just need to grow up and realize that nation $X is their superior in all ways.
No, he (or she) is not.This text is not recycled anywhere else. Care to address the points made instead of a personal attack?
Oh come on! We have to go see a hockey game once in a while!
It's perjury and that's why there's pushes to get Obama to issue a preemptive pardon to Hillary for whatever crimes she may have committed.
I can't believe this is anything more than Republican rabble-rousing. Accepting a pardon carries an imputation of guilt. The American people are not dumb enough to elect someone who admits to being guilty of a felony, regardless of a pardon. It's like suggesting that Nixon could have been elected to some other political office because he was pardoned. Theoretically it's not impossible, but in practice, hell no.
I'm assuming that you simply were not aware of the "imputation of guilt" bit. Rest assured, the Party of Opposition would be screaming it from the rooftops before the ink was wet on the pardon. Half the Democrats already prefer someone else. Nothing could save her from the shitstorm that would follow a pardon. An indictment would end her career instantly, even if she refused to accept the pardon. In point of fact, go and find me anyone indicted in federal court who was subsequently elected to any public office above the municipal level. It's a big country, it might even have happened before. Then you can compare it to Wikipedia's huge list of politicians whose careers were summarily terminated by such charges.
You've been had. It's a wonderfully subtle piece of propaganda, and merely relies on complete ignorance of how pardons work. I trust you will do your best to correct this misinformation in the future.
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"America, you are so fucked."
Between the collapsing EU and the Muslim invasion, it's Europe that is well and truly f*cked.
The US will still be around, and you'll be in civil wars. Don't expect the US to bail you out a 3rd time in 100 years.
There is no "lesser evil" anymore. Both parties are totally corrupt and probably beyond redemption. Stop supporting the 2-party system. Vote 3rd party, get involved, do research and vote for somebody you actually agree with.
c) deporting criminals just dumps the problem on somebody else. Raped and murdered French people are not somehow worth less than raped and murdered British people.
You are stuck in the past. That was before Napoleon.
No, they left while the remainder argued about what to do about it. Then the Southerners attacked Fort Sumter, leading to a brutal war.
Obligatory Hitchiker's Guide quote:
Tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people who made things and did things, and the B ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitizers. They sent the B ship off first, but of course the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
A number of commonwealth countries are trying to ditch the Queen as head of state. I doubt they will be very interested in our leadership, especially as after we joined the EU the pivoted away from us.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The UK has already secured an exemption from the immigration quotas.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
> Wingnuts actually believe that. If you immerse yourself in far-right propaganda,
> and lack critical thinking skills, you'll wind up so brainwashed that you'll actually
> believe the Nazis were the "left."
You mean the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", which translates as "National Socialist German Workers' Party"? Because it's a real mouthful, the MSM called them "Nazis". Hitler's campaign platform in 1933 included the nationalization of banks. More like Bernie, if you ask me.
> Those idiots blame everything on the tricksy left, even now when they've
> nominated an actual fascist who promises to commit impeachable offenses.
As opposed to Hillary, who already has commited impeachable offenses with her private mail server?
I'm not repeating myself
I'm an X window user; I'm an ex-Windows user
Yeah, keep in mind that what really did in old BJ Bill was not the sexual act, but the perjury when he lied about it under oath...
please stand up
please stand up
Propaganda would suggest an attempt to sway public opinion with deceptions or untruths. I see neither here.
That's it I'm writing you in for president. The only thing I'd add is get rid of the anchor baby concept. Send all of them back home. Why are we incentivizing people to break our laws? I hear this nonsense about compassion, but in the long run it's not fair to the people who follow the law, not fair to the citizens of this country, and is ever increasing our financial burden. The far more compassionate thing to do for everyone involved is enforce our laws. They were created for a reason.
Seig Heil!! </sarcasm>
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"I'm not much interested in interoperability. I want substitutability. I want to be able to throw your software out."
Patreus was found to be intentionally leaking classified info (to impress a lady for romantic advantage). So far no intent has been identified from H.
In fact, I've yet to see confirmation that she even accidentally (or otherwise) leaked CLEARLY classified info that was CLEARLY classified at the time of the alleged link. If you have such evidence, please do provide it.
There are two levels of evidence needed. First, that something was clearly leaked, and THEN it was leaked intentionally. Right now she's still at level 0 (based on public evidence).
The rest of your statements appear to politically motivated, but I choose to focus on current events for now, and thus won't reply on those.
Table-ized A.I.
There is a legal process for those seeking asylum and I wouldn't think that would change.
The EU at least allows members to leave peacefully if they want. The last time a number of US states wanted to leave, they were conquered by the remaining part of the empire.
Those US states who chose to unilaterally engage in war in order to foster their secession to protect the peculiar institution of black slavery?
You don't get to quit just because you lost an election.
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Please point the Nazis out on that political spectrum, my understanding was that Nazi was supposed to be the national socialists. Please show me how the Nazis were in any way conservative rather than socialistic. And no, racism isn't conservative, as that isn't part of any party's platform.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
...even Infowars (Infowars for fuck's sake! Fake moon landing nutjobs!) puts quotes around “directly engaged,” like this is the thing they're going to be journalists about. Must be true then. Seriously.
Oh hey also, what's wrong with Eric Schmidt and/or google helping whoever the fuck they want?
There are two levels of evidence needed. First, that something was clearly leaked, and THEN it was leaked intentionally. Right now she's still at level 0 (based on public evidence).
The Espionage Act criminalizes the mishandling of classified documents. Intent is irrelevant. So, to correct your level estimation, she's at Level 1, where Level 1 corresponds to "broke the law". Plus there's the issue of passing her email archive to her lawyer, who was not cleared for classified documents.
Redundancy is good And also good.
So far "mishandling of classified documents" has not been demonstrated beyond vague guesses (to the public).
Table-ized A.I.
Pointing to your post history shows we understand how you became Coren the clown, KING of FAIL instead hahaha https://slashdot.org/comments.... , http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , https://slashdot.org/comments....
I haven't. There is simply no time between sex, drugs, and rock and roll once you try to mix work into it and make sure your wife doesn't find out.
So please post a couple links that you feel provides the examples necessary to support such a claim. I hope your best example is not a black person punching someone dressed like the KKK. I wouldn't consider that extreme. Prudent and proper would be more realistic.
The Stay campaign seems far worse when it comes to scaremongering. Every day they are saying billions will be wiped of this or that, but in actual fact they really have no clue at all. There are plenty of intelligent arguments going both ways, but we have heard precisely zero of them from either campaign. Instead its just been unsubstantiated scaremongering. On top of this, the people who want to leave are being marginalized as racists, even though in the past, many of the leading left-wing politicians wanted to leave the EU, claiming it to be capitalistic and undemocratic.
Oh come on don't be like that, she apologized for the mail server.
In the early 1900s, racism in the context of Hitler was the crown jewel of the left. Eugenics was a leading scientific theory and led to horrible things around the world including forced sterilization in the US. But the essence of the scientific theory was that different classes or races of people were superior and inferior to each other much like specimens in the barn yard (breeds of cattle for instance ). Hitler took it a bit further under the guise of compassion where he allowed the handicapped to be euthanized (even without their consent ) in the T4 program which was a precursor to the final solution.
It is quite interesting how there are so many similarities of Hitler and the left's stances on many things yet you would be led to believe he was a political right. I mean he had the compassion thing down. Valued science over religion, made university free and encouraged participating. He even removed churches and god from public view after using it to his advantage. It's almost as if history was ignored to push a narrative.
Yet the demo extermists are still very run of the mill to the rest of the world, America is so far right it fears anything slightly right.
http://time.com/4254801/donald...
http://www.cnn.com/videos/poli...
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12...
> Nobody has ever left the EU. We don't know if we'll be allowed to leave peacefully.
That's impossible, since the EU (earlier the franco-german coal and steel alliance and then European Economic Zone) was expressly created to prevent wars. The falling apart of EU and the return a myriad of uncoordinated nation states, each hating every one of its neighbours, would necessarily lead to a new big european war and such wars escalate into world wars. It is not about the economy, it's about war or peace! Now that many have nukes, Britain should be opting for peace, because being an island is no longer a form of viable protection. Anyhow, both of the previous world wars made Britain decline significantly in status, wealth and power and after WW2 she gradually became a harlot for the USA.
A trump owned company will win the contract no doubt.
There are some details that you left out that actually enhance the case you made:
1. As a US Senator at the time, Hillary VOTED for the war in which these vets served and many were wounded. Trump, regardless of what one thinks of his statements about his position on the war, had no actual role in or responsibility for sending the soldiers to war. As a result, SHE is the one who has actual moral culpability.
2. Clinton funnels her charity through the Clinton foundation which has a bad reputation for siphoning-off up to 80% of funds for "overhead". Trump just had his regular people handle the matter. As a result, every dollar Trump reports as donated goes in-full and is likely twice as big when it reached the vet as a dollar Hillary reports as donated.
3. In the 1980s when Nancy Reagan was in the White House as Ron's first lady, Democrats routinely criticized Nancy for her expensive wardrobe. Nancy was a former Hollywood actress of the silver screen era and made a lot of the political women in DC look a bit shabby. There were articles in the New York Times and other lefty outlets that made a big issue out of the costs of her clothes and claimed this was proof she and Ron were elitists who were out of touch with normal people. Then when it was discovered that she had NOT spent enormous sums on the clothes but had borrowed them from the designers, THAT became the new meme about how awful she was. The left-wing press used every detail of the woman's clothes as proof she was evil. With Hillary the ranting is even louder of course....oh, no... wait....{crickets}
People who do not pay attention do not realize just how dishonest, hypocritical, biased and untrustworthy the so-called mainstream press (New York Times, Washington Post, etc) are and therefore why so many Republicans and/or conservatives (NOT the same thing) do not trust them.
propaganda bot with no actual argument or facts calling somebody else a propaganda bot.
There's a big difference between "Opposing", and violence. Protest all you want, and stop acting like petulant children. It doesn't help your cause, and in fact turns people against you.
Just another day in Paradise
Wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1982
I'm voting Remain, but this argument is plain wrong - there's an explicit method for this in the Lisbon Treaty.
You're just another Brexiter spouting lies, business as usual.
Tell that to the good people of Sevastopol.
If you think someone isn't free to have a different definition of "freedom" you may be a tyrant.
You could call the ID cards "Freedom Cards", so they sounded even better.
If you think someone isn't free to have a different definition of "freedom" you may be a tyrant.
Get help, no one should live with psychological problems this extreme.
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APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
My understanding was that he also had the government take over the industry of the country, which is textbook socialism. So I never understood hanging Hitler on the right as if he shared any political leanings with the right.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
He took over enough of German industry to put 'the fear' into the rest. But he was enough of a realist to not fully implement socialism while at war.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
The dirty secret is: Of all the mismanaged currencies in the world, the British Pound is _by far_ the worst.
England is an economic canary. How the 'powers that be' engineered the delma of 'Pound vs Euro' as 'the referendum' on the euro has to be a deeply interesting story.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
The day the UK leaves the european economic zone, it join NAFTA.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Apparently Google is doing what it can, in the context it finds it self in, to prevent evil. They should have backed Sanders, but they couldn't see him coming back when Clinton was the only game in town for Democrats.
Only boring people are ever bored.
c) deporting criminals just dumps the problem on somebody else. Raped and murdered French people are not somehow worth less than raped and murdered British people.
Yea the Brits did this a while back to the US. They sent us all the scumbags murders and thieves now look at what we have a world power ran by scumbags murders and thieves. GEE THANKS BRITAIN!
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Coren you're the brain-damaged autistic retard. Speak for yourself lying about apk. He made you eat your words https://slashdot.org/comments.... , http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , https://slashdot.org/comments....
You don't know much about socialism and the NSDAP, apparently. The NSDAP did have a socialist wing in 1933, but that was shortly terminated with extreme prejudice (see the Night of the Long Knives). After that, the Socialist part was kept for propaganda purposes (Hitler discusses this sort of thing in Mein Kampf), but the actual policies of the Third Reich were not anywhere near socialist.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Hitler pushed some companies into being run by individual Nazis, and cozied up to the big capitalists. The means of production were almost exclusively in private hands.
As someone who has studied the period in some detail, I never understood calling Hitler left-wing (at least not after his affiliation with the Bavarian government of 1920 or so).
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
It's pretty strange, because it is Youtube that tends to recommend all kinds of anti-Democratic videos to me, some of them even on the paranoid side.
So what would you have people that don't she with you call you? I call crazy, crazy, but if you would rather me refer to you as sunshine, snookums, or whatever, I'll be more than happy to oblige. You're still bat shit insane though.
Says the Robot Running Amok....
What were his points? All he did was spout off a slogan. Or are you really claiming "the wall is gonna be built" a talking point? You're dumb and should feel dumb for being dumb.
Hey dumass [sic], he posted links. Why'd you stop running your cock sucker? C'mon man, double down on the derp.
They call him that because they know he's actually right wing totalitarian but they don't want to be associated with that. So they make up bullshit even in the face I'd evidence to try and put it off on to us left wingers. Hitler said himself in mein kampf this was all just a manipulation method to get him in power. Throwing token candies to the crowd to earn their favor and then doing whatever the fuck he wanted once in. But why believe the words from the man himself? The book must have been right washed by us dirty lefties.
Google, they can find anything. So if you say anything against Eva Perone.... er I mean Hilary Clinton they could find you and terminate your google account. For a lot of us, that could really really suck. From phones, tablets, Nest controllers.... and in some cases on and on and on.
Imagine if she's elected. Could really be hell.
Scary people!
Wow. Are going to cry or something? I asked for links and i got them. What do I need to say to stop you from crying?
BTW, you might want to understand what [sic] actually means and how tto use it before making yourself look even dumber than sumdumass. Now recess is almost over so go ask your teacher about that.
You are right, but it will never happen.
"and make the burden of proof on the employer, not the employee."
More specifically, that will never happen. For all that the certain politicians make a lot of noise about illegal immigrants their clients are mostly large businesses -- and in the southwest many of those businesses hire illegal immigrants in order to keep costs down. Heck, even one of the presidential candidates has made it clear that he prefers to hire immigrants by bending/breaking the rules rather than Americans (though he says it is because it makes them "seem exotic" to the customers rather than admit the economics).
When the politicians comprising our government are either owners of business or are owned by businesses they will fight long and hard to avoid making any law that hurts those businesses. A major reason for CANSPAM was to undercut existing state laws which were stronger -- and even worse, more states were looking to pass even more onerous (from a business perspective) laws. CANSPAM is an apt acronym because it essentially authorizes spam.
There *are* other reasons to enter the US and defenders of the status quo will claim that "the illegals are sneaky and trick the companies into hiring them" or that it is too hard to verify citizenship, etc. On the other hand I suppose there is something to the difficulty of verifying citizenship when your budget for doing so is $0.
In the end, I do not expect to see any laws penalizing companies for hiring illegals. And with the offer of jobs that pay better than in Mexico it is inevitable that some will take the risk of illegal entry.
Brexit will spell END of EU and bring ‘DESTRUCTION of Western civilisation’, says eurocrat.
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