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Social Media Overtakes Television As Young People's Main Source of News, Says Report (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BBC: Of the 18-to-24-year-olds surveyed, 28% cited social media as their main news source, compared with 24% for TV. The Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism research also suggests 51% of people with online access use social media as a news source. The report, now in its fifth year, is based on a YouGov survey of about 50,000 people across 26 countries, including 2,000 Britons. Facebook and other social media outlets have moved beyond being "places of news discovery" to become the place people consume their news, it suggests. And news via social media is particularly popular among women and young people. The study found Facebook was the most common source -- used by 44% of all those surveyed -- to watch, share and comment on news. Next came YouTube on 19%, with Twitter on 10%. Apple News accounted for 4% in the US and 3% in the UK, while messaging app Snapchat was used by just 1% or less in most countries. According to the survey, consumers are happy to have their news selected by algorithms, with 36% saying they would like news chosen based on what they had read before and 22% happy for their news agenda to be based on what their friends had read. But 30% still wanted the human oversight of editors and other journalists in picking the news agenda and many had fears about algorithms creating news "bubbles" where people only see news from like-minded viewpoints. Most of those surveyed said they used a smartphone to access news, with the highest levels in Sweden (69%), Korea (66%) and Switzerland (61%), and they were more likely to use social media rather than going directly to a news website or app. The report also suggests users are noticing the original news brand behind social media content less than half of the time, something that is likely to worry traditional media outlets.

159 comments

  1. News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we honestly call the click bait articles on social media news?

    1. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can we honestly call the click bait articles on social media news?

      What this Anonymous Coward knows will shock you.

    2. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The same can be said for the so called real "news" networks.

    3. Re:News? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We never had good news before so what is the difference?
      Sure back in the 1950-1990 we had our "trusted" news on TV. However they tried to cover a Whole days of activity around the world in 1 hour. The first half covering Local and State News, the second half World and National News. So much of the coverage didn't spend more than a few minutes on the topic.
      The News Papers had much more depth to them. However during newspapers popularity there was a much lower literacy rate, so a good portion of the population couldn't fully read them, and just read what they could. So the headlines. Which is much shorter than a Twitter post.
      Political Bias, Corruption and special interests were just as part of the media in the past as it is now, it may be worse, however why would the media cover its own problems that will make you lose faith in it.
      For example look at the Electoral college results for presidential elections You see nearly solid political US results during during the time of TV News. Then with the internet and cable news you see the Maps becoming more diverse.
      While it may because of more polarization, but it is also because people are getting exposed to different ideas thus need to make their decisions from more data.
      The Media liked JFK, so his indiscretions were ignored. The Media didn't like Nixon so he was kicked out of office. TV News made it easy to push an agenda.

      Now Social media had made politics very messy. And some good and bad has come out of it. People are less trustful of the establishment candidate and want someone more outside. Hence the Trump and Sanders supporters, who feel that they had been told what to do for so long that they are trying to get a new voice free of this is how it is done. But this also creates the Problems with the Trumps and Sandars who are focused on particular issues and not the general complexities of running a government. Because of the wide coverage they can just talk about what drive the person passions and gloss over the details and complexities, as social media being more end user driven will focus on the reasons why they are voting for or against a person. While the more formal News did try to keep the information more broad and civil.

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    4. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      With all the abuses from "mainstream" news networks, how is getting info, four words at a time, squashed between pages of ads, any less accurate? We already have "mainstream" media adding gaps and editing interviews to make opposing viewpoints sound weak, not to mention prattle about worthless topics.

      While everyone here in the states is unfreinding each other and pissing around on gun rights and blaming either Islam or gun owners, ICANN is in the process of being moved to the UN. This means that if a nation doesn't like what your site says, they can have it shut down and not just the domain taken away... but your IP address range confiscated. All without any method of challenging it.

    5. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ideas or propaganda? It is very easy to make up bullshit and inject it in social media as "fact". Hell, we have countries who know this and actually have dedicated propaganda divisions just to go out and troll the Net. Look how easily people swallow it as well.

      Here in the US, people are unfriending/unfollowing/ranting at each other left and right, blaming the gun owners for the massacre, while saying that the guy who pulled the trigger was just part of the system and "venting", and would have been harmless had the evil 2A guys not shoved an AR-15 assault weapon in his hands with a 100 round drum clips [sic]. Other countries, they would spend time looking at why the guy was radicalized, and start tracing down contacts to check for accomplices. Here in the US, it becomes a red herring for both the left and right to go at each other with their agendas.

    6. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Only as much as we can call the click bait articles on "News media" websites news.

    7. Re:News? by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      We still have good news outlets today. The trick is to get your news from as many sources as you can find because each one will be slightly biased. Bias isn't always obvious. It can be as subtle as not reporting a story at all. If you just have one source you rely on, you may not even hear about major stories! Read the news from right and left perspectives, and everything in between. There are no unbiased news sources. Never have been.

      Today we can hear about a bad traffic accident or a murder on the other side of the country. When I was young only the major events made the news. There simply wasn't time. Local news was 30 minutes, followed by 30 minutes of national news. There was no CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, or internet. Even newspapers and radio didn't cover everything.

      What we lack is history. Is it even taught in schools now? Without a knowledge of what has happened before, you don't have a context for what's going on now. Uneducated people getting their news from Facebook or Comedy Central scares the shit out of me. They vote, and they're uninformed voters. No wonder we get crappy leaders like Bush and Obama!

    8. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Admittedly in most other countries they are able to clearly go after the issue of why it happened more often as due to strict gun control laws the how it happened avenue of discussion is irrelevant. For instance some of the media in the US have shown a very dangerous trend of trying to claim more gun ownership would curb mass shootings which whilst clearly factually absurd has allowed the discussion to avoid dealing with the real issue of mental health and even terrorism has take a more prime position in the debate despite no genuine evidence to support that theory.

    9. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The saddest thing is you are more likely to randomly hit the truth tuning in to a comedy talk or news show than any of the mainstream news networks. They occasionally have a bit of actual news between their biased bits.

    10. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump quote: "Hey, all I know is what is on the Internet."

    11. Re:News? by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

      But this also creates the Problems with the Trumps and Sandars who are focused on particular issues and not the general complexities of running a government.

      You almost had a good comment there until that part where your really went off the rails. One of those two people has never held public office. The other was a mayor, a US Congressman, and a US Senator. Likely knowing more about the general complexities about running a government more than you ever will.

      However you did do a good job in showing that your point, up until your own personal bias slipped in, about how trust in reporting can be very tricky. And when we are are on Social Media, which I suppose we can classify /. into these days, it gets even more so. We get people like yourself who mix in their own opinions with the facts and because there is some truth to the totality of what is said the whole thing can be viewed as acceptable.

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    12. Re:News? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Whoa whoa.
      Hold on there slick.

      What Nixon did was illegal.
      Even in JFK's time adultery wasn't.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    13. Re:News? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Can we honestly call the click bait articles on social media news?

      You can follow reputable news organizations on social media. Associated Press, BBC, NPR, even Slashdot and Snopes! Instead of browsing social media and then browsing your favorite news sites, you now get it all in one location.

      Sure, people still post false clickbait articles on social media, but I don't think this is what is happening. From my own experience, and from the news, people are using social media less for sharing personal information and more for aggregating news stories.

      Basically Facebook is turning into a version of Slashdot.

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    14. Re:News? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Not quite. While "real journalists" are terribly biased and are slaves to their narrative, the stuff on Facebook is like the Weekly World News. Some of the stuff is like batboy but more subtle but still obviously bogus.

      People will gobble up the obviously absurd as long as it feeds into their biases.

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    15. Re:News? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      ...again, you are missing the point and focusing on your pet political agenda instead of paying attention to the real problem.

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    16. Re:News? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I not sure that being aware that a man bit a dog on another continent really helps. Most people aren't really numerate enough to put things into perspective. It's very easy for people to take advantage of this and publish hysterical nonsense of all sorts. Also, the media can be very selective on what it chooses to report about. It can also craft it's language to push a particular agenda. It's all "curated" so that you believe whatever narrative they are trying to sell.

      Very few news organizations are thorough enough to allow the viewer to make their own judgements. That kind of professional journalism is out of style. It takes too much effort from everyone.

      Theoretically, new media can allow you to broaden your sources. Although most people just craw into the echo chamber of their choice and "radicalize" themselves.

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    17. Re:News? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Sanders is a "back bencher" that never accomplished anything. He has radical grand ideas that sound nice if you are a kid but are wildly impractical for a number of reasons. Sanders supporters are a great example of how Facebook can magnify the apparent appeal of kooks.

      Also, your claims about his "government experience" are contrary to all of his rhetoric about being some sort of populist or outsider.

      Sanders is a career politician that seems as out of touch with real governance as anyone.

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    18. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh the irony.
      There's probably a greater proportion of meaningless clickbait, but it's obviously so... as opposed to when it's all on uniform paper and edited by a layout guy.
      There's also a much deeper level of information available to those who seek it (and no, i don't mean just following tribal narratives).

      Don't confuse curation with credibility ;)

    19. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, the problem is that it isn't real news - newspapers and tv have always had news and opinion separated but scroll down facebook and you see articles from sites (liberal and conservative) that masquerade as news but are opinion pieces or just plain made up being shared and pushed. You end up with confirmation bias rather than anything worth relying on. Social Media news is as reliant as knocking on your neighbor's door and asking about what is going on in the world.

    20. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      those 'radical ideas' of Sanders are reality in pretty much every industrialized country except the US

      leading me to conclude they really aren't that radical (and hence the amazingly good result of Sanders in the primary despite active sabotage by both the party and media establishment)

  2. Slashdot, News for nerds by OffTheLip · · Score: 1

    stuff that matters. Social media news.

  3. That explains quite a lot by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, so now we have more people getting their news from facebook than from TV, newspapers or any "traditional" source.

    And then look at something like snopes.com to have an idea how much of this so called news are hoaxes, misinformation or blatant lies*!

    And none of them gets an even remote feeling that something as unreliable as facebook is as usefull as a rubber knife when you treat it as news source. Yes, it's great for cat pictures. And I love the "25 incredible stupid things stupid people did" stuff. But that's it. It's a SOCIAL media. Is your social environment a regular part of the news? No? See?

    * and sometimes misunderstood satire

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    1. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In my experience, most newspapers are full of misinformation and blatant lies as well.

    2. Re:That explains quite a lot by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is worse that that it will feed your bias. Even the true news stories will be tend to be the ones that fit your world view. Frankly I miss the good old days of the news back when it was mostly right in the middle to slightly to the left. What we have on the Internet is terrible because people will pick the news sources they like. Frankly we do not need to see the news that we agree with. We need to see the news that we do not.
      BTW people take a look at VOANews.com
      It is the Voice of America news service and because it is a tiny government funded news service it really tries to provide a balance coverage without any spin. The reason is that it does not have to find sponsors and it is so tiny no one in the government bothers with it.
      Before you dismiss it just take a look at.

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    3. Re:That explains quite a lot by bickerdyke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is the Voice of America news service and because it is a tiny government funded news service it really tries to provide a balance coverage without any spin. The reason is that it does not have to find sponsors and it is so tiny no one in the government bothers with it.
      Before you dismiss it just take a look at.

      Which is somehow ironic considering what VOA has been founded to be....

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    4. Re:That explains quite a lot by Jack_of_Shadow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the problem is that 'traditional' 'news' sources no longer have journalists in them, they only have editorialists. They don't report the news, they spin the news to match their opinions, they use rhetoric to 'guide' your opinions and they don't actually want you to know the 'facts' they simply want to tell you what to think. Kinda like one man shoots up a night club, and instead of being allowed to demonize the religion he says he did it for, we demonize the weapons he had, and by extension demonize anyone in the country who has such weapons. We can't demonize one class, but we can demonize the other, because that is what the 'traditional' news sources say.

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    5. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, but those are the advertisements, the personals section, and the opinion section. If you really try, you can find the news articles. Many of them quote lies (such as what Donald T. Rump said yesterday), but most of the articles aren't in themselves lies.

    6. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Right, but those are the advertisements, the personals section, and the opinion section. If you really try, you can find the news articles. Many of them quote lies (such as what Donald T. Rump said yesterday), but most of the articles aren't in themselves lies.

      Three times I've been involved in events covered by a newspaper.

      Out of any 10 random "facts" asserted by a newspaper article, in my experience 5 or 6 of those facts will be accurate, 2 or 3 will be wrong in some substantial way, and 1 or 2 will be flat-out fabricated.

      And this would be for simple, non-controversial things like a car accident.

      So whenever I read an article about something controversial in any way, I pretty much disbelieve all of it.

      I figure about 25% of the facts from stories written on Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton are true and the rest are utter bullshit. The problem is, there's no way to tell which ones came out of the reporter's/editor's rectal database.

    7. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find the actual quote but one of my favorite quotes about journalism is "the news is accurate and impartial unless you happen to have intimate knowledge about the topic." Jaw droppingly held true for me a few times.

    8. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. CNN rarely reports what Donald Trump actually said or did.

      Just what it leads it's liberal left to believe.

      Did you know his campaign manager savagely and brutally attacked a WOMAN ?

      (Hint: go watch the video)

    9. Re:That explains quite a lot by ledow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's a reason that many workplace policies dealing with the media is "No comment". It's got nothing to do with hiding what happened (that will come out anyway), it's got everything to do with the source.

      "A member of staff said"
      "Insiders at the company tell us"
      "A representative was quoted as saying".

      Whereas if all they get is "A passerby commented" or "A witness was heard to say", then it instantly removes their credence.

      It's not what was said (look at the nonsense spouted to media in any incident, including that they saw the policeman do this, or they heard 20 gunshots or whatever, compared to the CCTV of the same). It's who said it, in what capacity ("I heard that", "I think that", "It sounded like", etc.), and when that are much more important than the actual words.

      Quotes are easy to come by. Quotes from officials are harder. And when the story is entirely "witness quotes" plus "the company was unavailable for comment" it's infinitely better than something which can be misconstrued as "We have it on the authority of person X working at the company that Y happened", whether that's true or not.

    10. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that you're in a hoax-media-driven cult that labels reality-based people as Liberal outsiders? Did you know that being in that cult has so many members so damaged that they'll support someone as toxic and incompetent as Donald Trump? (Hint: Grow up, and grow out of your cult)

    11. Re:That explains quite a lot by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Here's a great example, this trash shows up in my mailbox every week.

      http://currentinfishers.com/op...

    12. Re:That explains quite a lot by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      It is the Voice of America news service and because it is a tiny government funded news service it really tries to provide a balance coverage without any spin. The reason is that it does not have to find sponsors and it is so tiny no one in the government bothers with it.
      Before you dismiss it just take a look at.

      Which is somehow ironic considering what VOA has been founded to be....

      News have gotten so bad, that old-school propaganda is less biased.

    13. Re:That explains quite a lot by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      It is worse that that it will feed your bias. Even the true news stories will be tend to be the ones that fit your world view. Frankly I miss the good old days of the news back when it was mostly right in the middle to slightly to the left.

      Yeah, back when if you weren't one of the majority (straight, white, and middle-class), the news was just not for you. Those were great days for hetro white guys like us. Unarmed black people were still getting shot in the streets for no reason back then of course, but we didn't have to hear about it. We could pretend gay people didn't exist, because they had no way to force themselves into the news either.

      Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days...

    14. Re:That explains quite a lot by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      I've been telling friends, relatives, coworkers and strangers about snopes for years.
      I've been telling friends, relatives, coworkers and strangers about just "googling" things for years.

      But I am still amazed at how much bullshit and lies people continue to spew forth because they hadn't fact checked anything.

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    15. Re:That explains quite a lot by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Funny but those things where covered in the news even back then.
      Maybe not in the 50s and early 60s but by the 70 and 80s it was.
      Even better you did not have the likes of fox news or MSNBC.

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    16. Re:That explains quite a lot by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I lost my faith in "fact checking" after the mess with Cruz and his PPO being cancelled.

      You have to treat it all with as much skepticism as you would reserve for any of it.

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    17. Re:That explains quite a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can't demonize ...

      There are plenty of things to demonize in the USA: A culture of "might is right" and "fuck you, I got mine"; with US congress being the latest devotee. A government whining they need to imprison mentally ill people but the courts won't let them. A populace demanding the right to kill. A religion that preaches maiming and murder towards all 'criminals' doesn't help, but it's not the major problem.

    18. Re:That explains quite a lot by Dorianny · · Score: 1

      the problem is that 'traditional' 'news' sources no longer have journalists in them, they only have editorialists. They don't report the news, they spin the news to match their opinions, they use rhetoric to 'guide' your opinions and they don't actually want you to know the 'facts' they simply want to tell you what to think. Kinda like one man shoots up a night club, and instead of being allowed to demonize the religion he says he did it for, we demonize the weapons he had, and by extension demonize anyone in the country who has such weapons. We can't demonize one class, but we can demonize the other, because that is what the 'traditional' news sources say.

      It is not about demonizing, it is about finding solutions to the continuous and very serious problem of mass-shootings. Calling Islam evil does nothing about peoples murderous intent, gun control can't do anything about that either however it can certainly help mitigate the worst of the damage possible withing easy, legal reach. Even Bill O'rilly finally admitted that much

      Bill Oreilly takes stunning stance

    19. Re:That explains quite a lot by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Very few people in the US die from mass shootings. If it weren't for the morale effect, they wouldn't be a significant problem. The media are what makes them an apparently very serious problem.

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    20. Re:That explains quite a lot by Dorianny · · Score: 1

      Very few people in the US die from mass shootings. If it weren't for the morale effect, they wouldn't be a significant problem. The media are what makes them an apparently very serious problem.

      Like millions of other people with relatives or friends living in Orlando, I was one of those frantically dialing the phone hoping for the best, but fearing the worst. I can assure you the terror inflicted on millions as they wandered if their loved ones lied slain on a dance floor or a classroom is NOT some Hyped up Media

    21. Re:That explains quite a lot by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      A landslide or fire or earthquake that killed a similar number of people would cause the same distress. The 35W collapse in Minneapolis several years ago did that. I'm not trying to minimize your emotions, but concern for loved ones isn't unique to mass shootings.

      And, consider what would happen in the absence of general concern. People would be dead. Many more people would frantically try to learn if their loved ones were among the dead, and they would be frightened and anxious. Most of them would find that their loved ones were OK, and they've had a terrible day or so. Some of them would find that a loved one was killed, but lots of people find that a loved one died suddenly. Almost certainly more people in the US died in auto accidents than from the shooting that day. These deaths are all tragedies, but I don't see that a shooting death is more tragic than a traffic death.

      These things by themselves don't add up to being a significant problem. We have a small number of people suddenly killed, and a lot of people trying to find out what happened to people who might be involved. Mass shootings are less deadly than daily traffic deaths, which kill more people, and happen every day.

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  4. Social Media is the main source by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    of young people.

  5. Remember everyone... by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

    You read it here first!

  6. Really? by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Social media? Gosh, the only thing more unreliable than the news channels.

    Did you know, Facebook are soon going to make you pay unless you click this link before the 1st of June/July/August/September?

    Did you know: this local crime happened (actually four years ago) and this little girl needs money for a life-saving operation (actually dead already), etc. etc. etc.?

    Social media is the new gossip. The junk on there is really atrocious, and when news is discussed most of what pops up on social media is rumour and/or just outright lies.

    If anything, my primary source of "news" is a web search. Not even a news search because that's just mainstream news lumped into one item. Even things like Wikinews at least have some element of journalism and truth to them more often that the TV channels or papers.

    But social media? Really? Maybe that's how you hear *OF* a story, because you're always connected as a young kid, but for that to be your source of details of the news? That's just scary.

    1. Re:Really? by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Even things like Wikinews at least have some element of journalism and truth to them more often that the TV channels or papers.

      This is the problem I have with the Press. They have too much power and influence.

      Currently, the UK is debating whether or not to remain in the EU. The UK's most popular* newspaper is telling its readers to vote out. The Press should not be allowed to influence its readers into making decisions based upon its** opinion.

      * Popular != Good
      ** The opinion of the editor

    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/editor/owner/

    3. Re:Really? by Coisiche · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's the owner's opinion, although I expect he would have hired an editor that aligned to his opinion.

      A journalist at another newspaper (not owned by Murdoch) had this in a recent column:

      I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. “That’s easy,” he replied. “When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.”

      It's the opener to this article.

    4. Re:Really? by ledow · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't read the news to get someone's OPINION on it. I read the news to find out WHAT HAPPENED and form my own opinion.

      It's a vastly different thing, and why social networking (OPINION-based) is a bad news source.

      I would pay a lot of money for a website that edits the news back to "X happened in Y" without visible bias or opinions. Hell, I'd pay even more if I could filter out sports news, or stories about celebrities, etc.

      I often think about creating a "How I read the headlines" website where I just suck in the headlines from BBC News and then reword them to reflect reality.

      "Green to 'sort out BHS pensions mess'" at the moment.
      Roughly translated that's "millionaire who put a high street store into bankruptcy and then sold it off makes claims that he can't possible back up."

    5. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know, Facebook are soon going to make you pay unless you click this link before the 1st of June/July/August/September?

      Truth is stranger than fiction. Facebook will delete your backed-up photos if you don’t install Moments app.

    6. Re:Really? by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Even things like Wikinews at least have some element of journalism and truth to them more often that the TV channels or papers.

      This is the problem I have with the Press. They have too much power and influence.

      Currently, the UK is debating whether or not to remain in the EU. The UK's most popular* newspaper is telling its readers to vote out. The Press should not be allowed to influence its readers into making decisions based upon its** opinion.

      * Popular != Good
      ** The opinion of the editor

      That is not the real problem. The newspaper can express any opinion they want. The problem is that they have been LYING for decades and blamed all kinds of nonsense on the EU, that either had nothing to do with EU, or in most cases: Simply wasn't true.

      If you got rid of the blatent lies. It opinions of the tabloids wouldn't in themselves be a problem.

    7. Re:Really? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      :-) Good one... Went right by them... +5 Funny

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  7. Scraped through the bottom of the barrel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the low standards of TV news are too high, turn to Facebook!

  8. explains a lot. by bloodhawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That would explain why most kids now adays are so ill informed. My younger sister is 30 and lives on social media, it never ceases to amaze me the shit she believes or doesn't know about, especially around science where the just plain WRONG information is more abundant than facts on social media.

    1. Re:explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remind your sister her biological clock is ticking because 30 is not young and she'd better start thinking about having kids.

    2. Re:explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      obviously you are another one that uses social media as their source of information.

    3. Re:explains a lot. by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 2

      That would explain why most kids now adays are so ill informed. My younger sister is 30 and lives on social media, it never ceases to amaze me the shit she believes or doesn't know about, especially around science where the just plain WRONG information is more abundant than facts on social media.

      I could say the same about most Fox News watchers and Daily, Mail readers,.... the list goes on and on, except they are usually very angry too.

    4. Re:explains a lot. by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Informative

      I could say the same about most Fox News watchers and Daily, Mail readers,.... the list goes on and on, except they are usually very angry too.

      It's fine to be angry over something, even angry all the time if you want. But look at the people who are acting violently and attacking people, for the most part it's not those "angry fox news watchers" or "angry daily mail people" it's the ones getting their news via social media, media that thrives on clickbait or outrage culture. Fosters insular thinking and groupthink and/or supports authoritarian viewpoints and/or anti freedom of speech/expression. Take your pick. BLM, anti-trump protesters, DNC/RNC protesters, occupy wallstreet(after it was hijacked by progressives), anti-MRM groups. The people violently protesting individuals like Milo Yiannopoulos, Christina Hoff Sommers, Gloria Steinem? They're the same ones who claim that they can't be racists because they're a minority or because they're a particular sex/race/religion and openly state that violence is a perfectly fine means of protesting.

      You should be paying attention a bit more.

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    5. Re:explains a lot. by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      I think kids have pretty much always been ill-informed. It takes a while to realize that you don't really know anything.

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    6. Re:explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      It's pretty insulting to just about any group to lump a buffoon like Milo in with them. You also seem confused when you say the people protesting this clown (no, not violently) are the ones who think it's OK to be awful because they're minorities, when Milo thinks it OK to be awful because he's a gay fascist, which is a really small minority.

    7. Re:explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Awww someone needs their safe space to save them from meanie Milo. Arbitrarily throwing around labels exposes liberal SJWs for what they are every time. Hypocrites.

    8. Re:explains a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Milo is quite open about being a jerk. His entire shtick is that because he's gay, the Left cannot resort to the standard "You just hate gays!" and other irrelevant attacks meant to un-person to speaker.

      And calling Milo "awful" when being compared to people who beat bloody pedestrians shows your own biases - or ignorance.

    9. Re:explains a lot. by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      I think there is a major difference nowadays. They used to simply not know about topics, now though it is quite common for them to think they know about something as they read about it on social media and it doesn't even occur to them that what they are being fed as news or information is made up bullshit from marketing departments or people just pushing agendas. I am not claiming regular news sources are great either, but in comparison to social media they are.

    10. Re:explains a lot. by Rakarra · · Score: 0

      You can think SJWs are total trash and still think Milo is an idiot, you know.
      He shifts positions depending on whatever is going to get him a lot of attention. Before Gamegate he said gamers were all "pungent beta male bollock-scratchers and twelve-year-olds" but after Gamergate he's supposed to be a hero?

      Then of course there's that nonsense where he said his homosexuality was a farce because he wanted the attention. Once his family "accepted" his homosexuality and just wanted him to be happy, he "got bored" with it and now he's like, totally straight. Because according to his retarted conservative canard, gay people are endlessly flattered by the media and if you want to feel oppressed, you have to be straight.

      He's a fucking toolbag, a troll of the highest order, and takes that part very very seriously.

  9. Perfect timing by RevRagnarok · · Score: 2

    Pair this with the recent problems at Reddit... :-/

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    1. Re:Perfect timing by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      The Reddit thing was pretty toe-curling, wasn't it? I'm always inclined to suspect cock-up rather than conspiracy, and I do think that's the most prominent explanation here. But to be clear, that's not absolving specific moderators of outright malice; the "cock-up" here is in how Reddit gives so much power to badly supported volunteer moderators.

      Forum moderation is difficult. Some people are good at it, some people are bad at it. Not everybody who volunteers for it has the best of intentions; some see it as a way to force their own agenda on the conversation (and lose interest and wander away if they are restrained from doing so). My own preference is for sites to have a code of conduct, or at least a cultural expectation, that moderators participate in actual discussions as little as possible - when a moderator gets dragged into the mud alongside the people he or she is responsible for moderating, things tend to go downhill fairly fast.

      Slashdot's solution to this, which largely democratises comment moderation, has many flaws, but arguably remains the "least worst" model. You do get bad moderators - those who use -1 to mean "disagree" - but they usually get counteracted by the majority. So there's a groupthink risk, but it's actually less than the risk that exists on a top-down moderated system, where the moderators are often the ones who impose the groupthink.

    2. Re:Perfect timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. "moderation is shit. -1 to +5? Come on, that's total crap. Not all posts nicely fit into such a tiny scale, particularly when dumb jokes in science "news" take top billing every fucking time.

    3. Re:Perfect timing by RogueyWon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The point of the Slashdot moderation scale is to control the visibility of posts. More highly moderated posts are more highly visible, but you can still see the low-moderated ones if you want. It's not really about measuring your e-peen. For the purpose for which it's intended, a 7-point scale is absolutely fine. Capping negative moderation at -1 means that posts which get "unfairly" moderated down soon after going live can be "rescued" relatively easily.

      I've seen sites which use uncapped community-moderation scales (e.g. Eurogamer). My experience with them is that they tend to have a much stronger culture of "+1 means agree, -1 means disagree" with less regard for the quality of the post than you get at Slashdot. They give a bigger incentive to try to tailor your posts to the group-think, by allowing users to aim for "high scores", where posts are moderated +100 or something silly like that.

    4. Re:Perfect timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that reddit moderators (and, the admins and owners ain't stupid either) realize that they have a nice, high-profile platform to manipulate public opinion, they seem to be testing the waters and doing just that. I get shadowbanned from high-profile subreddits regularly (using throwaways). Generally, if you disagree with the majority opinion, you're gonna get subreddit shadowbanned (and the admins can claim no involvement, because it's sub-specific). This raises the question: is the majority opinion in any given thread, which appears democratic to the naive, community created from the upvote/downvote system or moderator and admin created from selective, targeted comment deletion and shadowbanning. Honestly, look at the incentives. Don't believe anything you read on reddit's comment section got there democratically. There is a subtle game afoot to manipulate the community opinion presented by the corporate entity reddit and its high-profile subreddits, like r/news. It's been going on for a few years, but appears to be accelerating.

      I've been on reddit since 2005, and I was getting downmodded for calling out Google and Eric Schmidt for spying on the American people for YEARS before everyone changed their opinion (with the Snowden leaks). So, heed my words this time: Reddit is on the precipice of becoming one of the most powerful propaganda machines in human history.

    5. Re:Perfect timing by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The Reddit thing was pretty toe-curling, wasn't it? I'm always inclined to suspect cock-up rather than conspiracy, and I do think that's the most prominent explanation here. But to be clear, that's not absolving specific moderators of outright malice; the "cock-up" here is in how Reddit gives so much power to badly supported volunteer moderators.

      Wasn't a cockup. /r/news has had a history over the last couple of years of silencing anything that doesn't fit with their opinion, and if it runs contrary to their opinion it'll be deleted, you'll be banned on top of it. They were going out of their way to delete posts that were calling for blood donations and so on as well, and were deleting posts right up until the point where they couldn't keep up with deleting the stuff anymore the made a megathread.

      It also doesn't help that many of the mods on the default subs also moderate several default subs or also moderate the biggest cesspools on reddit like shitredditsays(srs), circlebroke, circlejerk and many admins when they retire suddenly become mods of said subs, the most common places where admins retire to? SRS. The same sub that loves to claim that people brigade it, but have been caught brigading, witch-hunting and doxing. All things that in the past led to other subs being outright banned or quarantined.

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    6. Re:Perfect timing by Nemyst · · Score: 2

      Moreover, Slashdot's moderation system has another important element: justification. On reddit and such, upvoting is basically "that guy speaks the truth!" or "I agree!" while downvoting is "man that's stupid" or similar, and thus becomes biased and more about whether the post/comment agrees with the majority or not. On Slashdot, you have to give a justification for why you're up/downvoting. It doesn't feel right to piggyback on "Insightful" or "Interesting" just because you agree, so it would seem like far fewer people do it. The same can be said for negative moderation — you might disagree with someone, but are they actually specifically trolling or offtopic? The words bear more weight than merely downvoting.

      Slashdot also makes a distinction between serious and funny posts, which helps separate things. The only flaw is Overrated/Underrated, but that doesn't appear to have corrupted the system so far, perhaps because they feel a bit like a cop-out.

  10. TV is history by c120plus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm closer to senior citizenship and get more news from Facebook than TV. Basically because I nowadays turn on the TV very rarely for live events (like the current football championship, the eurovision song contest or election results like the UK leaving Europe next week) and it stays off otherwise. If my current satellite TV system breaks down it will not get replaced, the usage doesn't justify keeping it. If I had to pay for TV beyond the TV license fee, it'd be gone already. So it doesn't suprise me that young people no longer care for TV as a news source or an anything source. It rarely covers important issues anyway. Of course I get most of my news from news web sites and blogs nowadays...

    1. Re: TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever. You're just using FB as a proxy to get the news. All the things people post there, they are not the source of 99% of the time.
      Every post is a repost of a repost.
      Calling FB a news source is like calling slashdot a news source. We just collect articles and talk about them here. All the links go to news sites. Same on FB. There are no reporters here.

    2. Re:TV is history by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      So you watch the football and eurovision on TV and go to facebook for your news. Wow, you're the real intellectual arn't you.

      " It rarely covers important issues anyway"

      Guess it depends on your definition of important really doesn't it. Obviously if kitten pictures are top of your list then Facebook News is for you.

    3. Re: TV is history by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      That was my first reaction as well. There are no FB reporters in the middle east, for example - any news from there comes from some other news source. Or some person on FB posting pictures from some unverified location.

      It is more the filtering that concerns me. People insulate themselves and end up being unaware of things going on in the world. That's the thing about a real newspaper that is different - as you peruse the thing, you encounter stories that you might not normally read that turn out to be quite interesting. If you filter out everything except for things like celebrity gossip and cat photos, you gradually become a moron.

    4. Re: TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm israeli, there are lots of news coming from israel by Israeli FB users. The problem is that it is mostly in hebrew. Actually. in many cases, I can read on FB things that are our racist media will not report (beating of arabs/eritreans because of their skin color)

    5. Re: TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Become"? Surely by that time it's too late.

    6. Re:TV is history by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 1

      ... or election results like the UK leaving Europe next week ...

      l keep hearing Britons say that. So how will that work? Will you fire up the ginormous diesel engines you have hidden in the White Cliffs of Dover and sail ye olde Albion out to sea while a brass band plays 'Rule, Britannia'???

    7. Re:TV is history by NoNeeeed · · Score: 2

      You joke, but that's actually a more coherent plan than half the "Leave" campaign can put forward for real.

      The quality of the "debate" around the EU referendum has been one of the most depressing things I think I've ever seen in our political system, and that's saying something.

    8. Re: TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today's journalists are general pretty terrible, especially the professional ones. So not "whatever". The sooner they switch to a different profession and let go, the better.

    9. Re: TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glenn Greenwald is a professional journalist, and he's better than you are.

    10. Re:TV is history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed the point - TV is ONLY good for entertainment. For intellectual stimulation you must look elsewhere.

    11. Re:TV is history by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 1

      You joke, but that's actually a more coherent plan than half the "Leave" campaign can put forward for real.

      The quality of the "debate" around the EU referendum has been one of the most depressing things I think I've ever seen in our political system, and that's saying something.

      I've been following the Brexit debate and It seems to me that most of the people being polled by TV crews just talk about 'feelings', they 'feel' they are getting a bad deal from the EU, they 'feel' Britain is carrying the rest of the EU financially, nobody seems to have bothered to check. Then there is a whole legion factual errors like blaming the EU for things the UK government screwed up. Things like failing to fully exploit the latitude given by EU rules to crack down on benefits scammers, the education system which was to a large extent laid waste by UK govt. mismanagement and which is also why UK businesses like importing well educated workers from places like Poland. I fail to see why immigration is a such a horrendous problem in the UK when unemployment among immigrants is lower than among native Brits, EU immigrants are on average better educated and commit less benefits fraud. Attacking foreigners is just a way of diverting people's attention from the failures of the UK political elite like fucking up education. Then there is bullshit like the UkIP claim that 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians will be coming over to the UK courtesy of the EU, 29 million is actually more than the combined population of those two countries or the 350 million pounds sent to Brussels that turned out to be about a third of that amount on closer inspection. I spent some time this weekend watching Nigel Farage debating on IQ^2 (IIRC) against Nick Clegg. Farage was making outlandish claims like "The EU plans to set up an EU army, navy and airforce the day after the Brexit vote!!" If I was Clegg I'd show up to any debate against Nigel Farage with a big old handheld sign that reads [Citation needed] and waive it around whenever Farage opens his mouth and lets fly a totally invented factoid which, on average, seems to be every third sentence that leaves his lips. Apparently, when debating these days, it is more important to spew totally unfounded claims, clown around and be entertaining than actually out-debating your opponent.

  11. Young people are slow.... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Crips I stopped watching the news or reading a paper more than 5 years ago as the feed of news from the internet was far better and faster.

    Hey 18-24 year olds, get with the program you luddites!

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    1. Re:Young people are slow.... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Are you counting online versions of newspapers. Cause I'll read the online edition of a newspaper.

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  12. Tripping the rift... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    36% saying they would like news chosen based on what they had read before
    22% happy for their news agenda to be based on what their friends had read

    1.2 hours of Facebook and Snapchat per day for an average user

    How much time spent consuming world information that is NOT just like news you have read before or news that your friends liked?

    If you think the United States is polarized now, just wait as a greater and greater percentage of citizens are spoon fed only like-minded opinions from birth to adulthood and then see how tolerant everyone is of differing viewpoints. The rift can only widen, while the chances of finding common ground can only diminish as this trend continues. The truly stunning part of this, is that these consumers of "news" actually prefer it that way.

  13. liberal echo chambers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the same liberal echo chamber that older people surround themselves with, just in a digital form.

    1. Re:liberal echo chambers by EzInKy · · Score: 1

      Perhaps people are attracted to "liberal echo chambers" because most people are libertarians?

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    2. Re:liberal echo chambers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please explain. Liberal and libertarian are entirely different political philosophies.

    3. Re:liberal echo chambers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please explain. Liberal and libertarian are entirely different political philosophies.

      Libertarians are what I would associate with "Classical Liberalism" - which [from wikipedia] advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.

      Progressives and Libertarians, now that's oil and water.

  14. This is news ?? by Salgak1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm 54, and haven't relied on Television for news in well over a decade.

    Social media ? Not so much. Although I do use it as a bird-dogging tool. . . ."crowd-searching" the news, and then checking a few other sources.

    Lately, the noise-to-signal ratio on social media, and Fecesbook and Twatter, respectively, has approached 99%. . . .

    1. Re:This is news ?? by mariame.finadamaker · · Score: 1

      I do agree but truthfully I think the Television for new is also based on accessibility to go and click and so on plus also time they take to give you the info A to Z.. social media is way faster and its entertainment to see people's reactions to events .. Im just sayin---> I read this today on the Fmylife.com site funny as hell, Today, my parents decided they won't pay for college because of a Fox News story that said higher education "makes you liberal." FML I love this site..

    2. Re:This is news ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After watching the TV series Frontline in the 1990's, I haven't relied on TV as a reliable news source. I know it was a comedy series, but it did open my eyes to the extent that the truth can be manipulated, the outright lies people will tell for a good story / ratings.

  15. The theme song for this story by GreatOldOne · · Score: 2

    This story reminds me of the Weird Al Yankovic song, "Midnight Star".

    1. Re:The theme song for this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And don't forget Joe Jackson's "Sunday Papers".

    2. Re:The theme song for this story by Tempest_2084 · · Score: 1

      The incredible frog boy is on the loose again? Why isn't this front page news! What's Trump and Clinton's plan for catching him? We need answers!

  16. Can't be much worse than womans mags by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The psuedo scientific drivel my wife reads in these moronic magazines just beggars belief sometimes. Whether its health, diet or beauty advice, most of it seems to be either made up on the spot with no scientific basis, either by the know-nothing neurotic maghag "journalists" , or by whatever crank they've waved some money at and who can string together enough semi coherent sentences to create an article out of. I genuinely believe some of these magazines should come with a health warning on the cover because of the rubbish they peddle to impressionable girls.

    1. Re:Can't be much worse than womans mags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lose 35 lb in 2 weeks!

      Alright, yes, then you may also be dead.

  17. More reliable? by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    It's funny cause Slashdot is my primary news source.

    This is only because I don't watch TV, at all. I only trowel around FB to get updates from friends and family, and if anything gets posted on /. that's even remotely sketchy, there are 30 keyboard warriors ready to pounce on the subject to debunk it....And that one AC who always spouts racial slurs.

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  18. The Media by sjbe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We never had good news before so what is the difference?

    Sure we have. We've also had crappy news before. It's trivial to point out examples of news done well over the last 100 years. It's even easier to point of examples of it being done badly.

    Sure back in the 1950-1990 we had our "trusted" news on TV. However they tried to cover a Whole days of activity around the world in 1 hour. The first half covering Local and State News, the second half World and National News. So much of the coverage didn't spend more than a few minutes on the topic.

    That's was the state of affairs basically until around the the late 1980s to early 1990s for television news. The first big change was CNN and the 24 hour news cycle. The second was the internet (specifically the web) in the 1990s.

    The News Papers had much more depth to them. However during newspapers popularity there was a much lower literacy rate, so a good portion of the population couldn't fully read them, and just read what they could. So the headlines. Which is much shorter than a Twitter post.

    Literacy rates have been rather high for well over a century in the US, particularly for white americans. Literacy in the 1950s was well above 90%. The percentage of the population that couldn't read a newspaper in the US hasn't been over 10% since before 1910.

    While it may because of more polarization, but it is also because people are getting exposed to different ideas thus need to make their decisions from more data.

    The evidence seems to show people doing exactly the opposite. People are now able to seek out niche news sources that support their already existing world view and disregarding contrary view points regardless of their validity.

    The Media liked JFK, so his indiscretions were ignored. The Media didn't like Nixon so he was kicked out of office.

    Must be nice to have such a simplistic world view. Nixon getting kicked out of office had a LOT more to it than whether "The Media" liked him or not. Saying something like that is the sort of idiotic sound bite we get from the Rush Limbaughs of the world. Sounds good to people who want it to be true even though it's complete nonsense in reality.

    1. Re:The Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nixon getting kicked out of office

      Ummm... Nixon resigned. That isn't to say he would not have been impeached (probably successfully) but it still stands that, facts as they are, Nixon was not "kicked out of office".

    2. Re:The Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talking about simplistic worldviews, how about one that implies some kind of fixed morality to the world that justified taking Nixon out while leaving Hillary Clinton free, considering they both did pretty much the same thing. The truth about Nixon is that he was living in an age with basically a single-source media - Television. The TV news people weren't letting the story go, so he had to go.

    3. Re:The Media by deadwill69 · · Score: 1

      "Literacy rates have been rather high for well over a century in the US, particularly for white americans. Literacy in the 1950s was well above 90%. The percentage of the population that couldn't read a newspaper in the US hasn't been over 10% since before 1910." This is incorrect and does not include functionally illiterate. https://www.google.com/search?... How many people are illiterate in the US? According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read. The U.S. Illiteracy Rate Hasn't Changed In 10 Years www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355.html What percent of American adults are functionally illiterate? Over 60% of adults in the US prison system read at or below the fourth grade level. 85% of US juvenile inmates are functionally illiterate. 43% of adults at the lowest level of literacy lived below the poverty line, as opposed to 4% of those with the highest levels of literacy. Functional illiteracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_illiteracy Search for: What percent of American adults are functionally illiterate? What is the definition of illiteracy? What is the average reading level of adults in the US? The 15% figure for full literacy, equivalent to a university undergraduate level, is consistent with the notion that the "average" American reads at a 7th or 8th grade level which is also consistent with recommendations, guidelines, and norms of readability for medication directions, product information, and popular ... Literacy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

    4. Re:The Media by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      That's was the state of affairs basically until around the the late 1980s to early 1990s for television news. The first big change was CNN and the 24 hour news cycle. The second was the internet (specifically the web) in the 1990s.

      Neither of those really mattered to the current downward spiral in news reporting. The first thing that affected news was the rejection of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 by the Republican controlled FCC. It was a bad decision then, and it's still a bad decision. This led directly to:

      While it may because of more polarization, but it is also because people are getting exposed to different ideas thus need to make their decisions from more data.

      The evidence seems to show people doing exactly the opposite. People are now able to seek out niche news sources that support their already existing world view and disregarding contrary view points regardless of their validity.

      The "niche" news sources, which mostly aren't actually news sources but are blogs or some sort of forums, are the direct result of newspapers completely missing the boat in the 90s with the advent of the internet and failing to properly take the steps to continue their subscriber base. Had they given accounts and access via the web to subscribers, they likely would not have been doomed to extinction.

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    5. Re:The Media by dywolf · · Score: 0

      Last I checked Hillary hasn't condoned an illegal breakin to get an edge in an election and then covered it up with the power of her office.
      That's not "pretty much the same" thing.

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    6. Re:The Media by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The truth about Nixon is that he was living in an age with basically a single-source media - Television.

      Only someone with absolutely no knowledge of history would say this.
      Newspapers were still the major source of news in the early 1970s.
      Especially investigative journalism of the sort that exposed Nixon.

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    7. Re:The Media by epine · · Score: 1

      I tried to digest the PIACC data. What a hot mess. Here's one page that initially seemed promising:

      Overall Results — Millennials

      This covers 2012. I had to look elsewhere for descriptive text around the performance levels (Description of PIAAC literacy discrete achievement levels).

      Table 1 excludes a row for the United States, but includes asterisks for whether each value for "Significantly different (p < .05) from United States". (If there was a Level 6 it would be this: ability to glean primary information from texts where conflicting information fills all the tables.)

      Not once is the question of language addressed. Here is what I presume: "Subjects are tested in their official language of choice." How hard was that to blurt out? And what about subjects whose preschool home environment was "none of the above"?

      This is all gussied up to mobilise action as a future employment catastrophe, yet it's not at all clear that future America has any desire to employ the bottom 20% of its millennial generation. Their contribution to America's employment landscape might be effectively zilch.

      By now I'm firmly of the opinion that these numbers have been sifted, folded, and mutilated to sell something. What might that be? Then I look up and see this URL has the domain name ets.org. Bingo!

      Still, it's hard to believe how much of the millennial generation in Canada falls below level 3. 40% in the 2012 survey. (I trust this number more because we don't have the Spanish problem—not yet an official language in America, so probably not tested).

      Then I look at the requirements for level 3 and see that this is well above merely "getting the news". Level 2 is more than sufficient for reading the first two paragraphs of what generally qualifies as journalism these days. Level 3 requires elementary synthesis from two or more sources at the same time. Ah yes, I can see how the mayfly generation might struggle with this.

      You can tell from any election cycle that half the population can't successfully meld two quantitative ideas (e.g. spend more here, spend less there). I recall a recent John Oliver-esque clip where Americans on the street professed to want "smaller government" but then you go through a list of entitlement programs and one by one the answer is "don't you dare cut that one!" Many of these people appear adequately employed. Small government. Mmmmm, donut! Program cuts. Ugh, no donut!

      Sorry, rationality, Americans are just not that into you.

      Here's the requirements for level 5:

      At this level, tasks may require the respondent to search for and integrate information across multiple, dense texts; construct syntheses of similar and contrasting ideas or points of view; or evaluate evidence based arguments. Application and evaluation of logical and conceptual models of ideas may be required to accomplish tasks. Evaluating reliability of evidentiary sources and selecting key information is frequently a requirement. Tasks often require respondents to be aware of subtle, rhetorical cues and to make high-level inferences or use specialized background knowledge.

      Did spotting ets.org in the source text URL immediately set off a blinking radiation hazard light. Full marks.

      Still no mention of the language question. Time to pull out the big guns. Use the FAQ Luke. (After all, why on earth would language status be up-front information in a survey on reading proficiency?)

      Frequently Asked Questions

      6. Why does PIAAC assess literacy only in English?

      PIAAC assesses adults in the official language or languages of each participating country. Based on a 1988 congressional mandate and the 1991 Nati

  19. The other side by olesk · · Score: 2

    What worries me more than social media becoming the primary source, is the idea that we should only read be interested in things we are already interested in.

    We're in a period of strongly polarized opinions where the idea of political discourse seems to be that you and me sit alone on our respective mountaintops and yell at each other. It bloody important to read news that doesn't fit your existing opinions or interests, how else will you ever question them? Or get new ones?

    I try to make a point of reading news sometimes from sources who's political alignment I clearly disagree with. It's annoying and refreshing (and allows me to smugly roll my eyes at the world occasionally). And just once every blue moon, I actually change my opinion or discover something interesting. In an ever more complex reality, we need more viewpoints, not fewer, and I'm worried that algorithmic filtering of news feels like a boon but is actually really detrimental to us all.

    1. Re:The other side by bazorg · · Score: 1

      What worries me more than social media becoming the primary source, is the idea that we should only read be interested in things we are already interested in.

      me too!

      More seriously, the quality of comments on newspaper sites is getting too close to the hater vs fanboy arguments that make Youtube and Facebook comments unreadable, and what makes Twitter a place for abuse and bullying more often than anything else.
      If these circumstances dictate that it's normal to just abuse other people in case of disagreement, finding refuge in group-think is not that crazy. Perhaps it has always been like this, people who vote similarly read the same news sources and congregate with like-minded people only. The internet just makes groups bigger and makes these behaviours more obvious to the observer.

      Probably Mr Goatse was right all along.

    2. Re:The other side by olesk · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it has always been like this, people who vote similarly read the same news sources and congregate with like-minded people only. The internet just makes groups bigger and makes these behaviours more obvious to the observer.

      Probably Mr Goatse was right all along.

      You're probably right, but at the risk of falling into the "everything was always better before" trap, I can't help but think that even if you used to read a right-of-center newspaper, you would get differing viewpoints, some not following general orthodoxy. A "perfect" algorithm that can with a very high degree of certainty give you what you most want to read could create the feeling that the world is *exactly* as you think. The only conclusion then, when meeting people who disagree, is that they must all be idiots...

  20. Better algorithms will lead to better news... by SkyLeach · · Score: 1

    Once RNN reaches a point of being able to validate sources and use human comment input from social authorities (individuals with high reputation for wisdom, education and intellect) then people will gravitate more. Trust in the major networks has declined over the years. http://www.pewresearch.org/fac...

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  21. This is not news! by aglider · · Score: 1

    If you read it like this:
    "People is paying more attention to this person that that one in order to know more news."
    The point is that people is swallowing whatever they are said, no matter who is those who speak.

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    1. Re:This is not news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is that people is swallowing whatever they are said, no matter who is those who speak.

      Quite the opposite actually. Social media (like Slashdot) has a commentary system to allow people to assert contrarian statements against the base story. This built-in mechanism for displaying doubt gives later readers easy access to additional perspectives that may help them discern the reality of the situation.

      In the olden days, the TV news or the newspaper was the only source of information outside your neighborhood or city. There rarely was ever a counterpoint, the initial claims stood with minimal opposition.

  22. The news "WAS" what you make of it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use to enjoy the news because it was a good litmus test to determine how genuinely informed an individual was. These days libtards have become to openly hostile they demand the public gets it from one Policically Correct source and will bully anyone who also doesn't drink from the same poisoned well. That is why I believe there's a genuine rise in informed readers turning to social media and more importantly the comment section of articles in order to get the objective opinions and angles which stimulate the silent majority of educated individuals. Naturally it doesn't always work, like terrible sites which use forms of self moderation and allow the mob to dictate what can be seen or not via broken voting systems but those formats are slowly going the way of the Dodo thankfully.

  23. Not surprising by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    When one considers the blank stares received when talking to this age group about world events, how those events may affect them or the history of the event, this is not surprising.

    Instead of getting a much more full and complete picture of the event they get a snippet devoid of content. All they hear/read is, "White guy found with child porn" or "Catholic priest rapes young boy", with no understanding of how long this has been going on, what happened to the victim or the punishment of the criminal.

    Remember when the protestors were outside Trump's speech in CA and some right-wing tabloid put up a picture of a woman bleeding from the head, claiming this is what the protestor's did to her?

    The fact was it a picture from Ash vs. Evil and it was Samara Weaving in full blown horror makeup.

    But that's not what they saw. They saw only a woman beaten by Trump protestors when the reality was much different but because they only use social media for "news", the facts of the situation will most likely never be known to them.

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    1. Re:Not surprising by ledow · · Score: 1

      Which is why one of my side-hobbies is pissing off Facebook etc. "friends" by correcting their stories, linking to Snopes, and explaining the bullshit they're pushing.

      If they block me after, that's up to them, but I'll be damned if I'll let spurious facts slide past without comment - whether they support my opinion or not.

      But, hey, another of my side-hobbies is reporting advertising to the relevant agencies when it's non-compliant or misleading. Try it, it's fun to complain.

  24. What's wrong with that? by lucm · · Score: 1

    Nowadays, liberals get their news from comedians like Maher or Colbert, while conservatives get their news from another type of entertainers, people like O'Reilly or Limbaugh. Eiher way the information goes through heavily biased lens.

    So what's wrong with if younger people choose Facebook instead? Sure just like on TV (and even Netflix now with Chelsea Handler) the liberal point of view is more present; as an example, bashing Trump counts as news. But information also gets filtered by your connections/friends Likes so it all balances out anyways.

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  25. Re:Newspapers? by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

    In the good old bad old days of printed newspapers, people also only read the papers that supported their preconceived notions. There is nothing new under the Sun, or the Times, or the Guardian...

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  26. Re:More like "SJW media" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Tumblr feminists are, for the most part, mentally ill. All you can do is feel sorry for them and hope they get the help they need.

  27. yay! by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    Well thank Providence they aren't frittering their time away watching television all day.

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  28. How Many? by sycodon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How many news stories by the supposedly professional news gatherers are festooned with copies of tweets by some random joe? Many stories are 80-90% Twitter comments.

    Useless.

    Social Media hasn't taken over the News Media, the News Medaia is freely giving itself over to Social Media.

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    1. Re:How Many? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is best is that, as Gawker shows us, Social Media news is nothing but personal opinion. Except if you disagree with it, you're a racist/sexist/gamergater/rightwing zealot/islamaphobe.

    2. Re:How Many? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See also: /r/news

    3. Re:How Many? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      I see that you have been to the CBC website recently.

    4. Re:How Many? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      How many news stories by the supposedly professional news gatherers are festooned with copies of tweets by some random joe? Many stories are 80-90% Twitter comments.

      Oh, but don't you understand? "People are saying" this nonsense. That makes it oh so relevant.

  29. Original news brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The report also suggests users are noticing the original news brand behind social media content less than half of the time

    What, the Associated Press?

  30. Traditional Media News Bubbbles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and many had fears about algorithms creating news "bubbles" where people only see news from like-minded viewpoints.

    Ironically traditional media's news bubbles are why I go to social media INSTEAD of traditional News outlets (TV, Papers, magazines), though I prefer Slashdot, Reddit, and even Google News to Facebook, Twitter, et al.

    Not too long ago some local high school student misjudged a pedestrian's velocity at a crosswalk, didn't see how fast she was running, the pedestrian assumed she had right of way, there was an accident, it ended badly. The paper couldn't print enough times how the kid had smoked pot the day before. The judge in the case declared his pot-smoking irrelevant, but that didn't stop the papers from enthusiastically discussing it in every single story! Meanwhile a drunk local politician runs a stop sign, totals two cars, puts a bunch of people in the hospital, and all the paper will say is "He was unable to come to a full stop at the intersection." The bias here is just unreal!

    Right now there's a big deal in all the traditional media about the heroin epidemic. It wasn't all that many months ago the stories were about arresting doctors who dared to prescribe oxycodone. Traditional News won't talk about the connection, but on social media it's obvious as hell that folks with chronic pain migrated from oxycodone to heroin, and that our politicians are killing them by the tens if not hundreds of thousands to manufacture a crises they can respond to. Very different perspectives there!

    It's nothing new under the sun. Some years back our politicians tried to raise the local sales tax. The papers all had a half-page editorial on their front page extolling the virtues of voting for the tax hike. Every news broadcast spent all their time discussing the great benefits of this tax hike! But every local businessman I talked to had a plan for moving out of the area if the tax hike passed. They simply couldn't compete, they couldn't stay in business with the new tax. Their only option was to move across the county line. Not surprisingly, the referendum failed.

    Tell me, you're reading this on Slashdot, how many times has Microsoft gotten great press in traditional media extolling the wonderful benefits of Windows 95, 98, ME, NT, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10, the new UI, etc? How many times have you visited Slashdot for a completely different firsthand perspective? I remember when WinXP came out, and Microsoft reps visited campus claiming how WinXP was now so stable it could go a whole week between bluescreens. And we all laughed at them because we were using Linux and measured uptime in years!

    How many times have you had firsthand knowledge of a news story? Has traditional media EVER gotten it right? Even ONCE?

    Seems like traditional media is just the ultra-rich, who own traditional media, using it to selectively foist stories upon us that support their perspectives and their business interests, largely at our expense!

  31. Zucker BERG BERG BERG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is one huge summary and a stupid way to put it. Such and such percent of such and such as. Fuck you do you think we are all stupid?

    Earning your trust to later betray you is what you get with any government institution and they are the smith and wesson backbone of Facebook.

    The summary should have been:
    With Facebook profiling you and sharing data with literally all governments in real time via a network of spy networks and backstabbing moles, you don't have to wait until the 10:00 news to be bullshitted.

    BeauHD take the dick out of your ass before you post stories ok thanks.

  32. Duh by btroy · · Score: 1

    Being a father of three kids - this is spot on. They've moved to Internet news outlets and social media. For us as parents - it becomes more and more important to teach critical thinking.

    Who is the source, what are the credentials of that source and who pays them.

    Even in regular magazines and media, they are slipping in adds subtly deemed as news, at the bottom you may spot the "advertisement" in a very small font.

    1. Re:Duh by GreatOldOne · · Score: 1

      Even in regular magazines and media, they are slipping in adds subtly deemed as news, at the bottom you may spot the "advertisement" in a very small font.

      It's worse than that. Sometimes, it doesn't say "advertisement", it uses the marketing-speak "sponsored content".

  33. Most News Websites are Tabloids by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1

    I'm 53 years old and have seen a lot of rot in journalism. Journalism is going through a serious identity crisis the last twenty years. Due to very biased influences infiltrating the news sources such as newspapers and broadcast news, very rarely are we getting the whole story and many stories deemed important are getting suppressed. I look for a healthy balance of all views (Faux News does NOT count). I took a very interesting college course that highlighted the manipulation of journalism, especially in broadcast TV.

    I ceased watching broadcast news since 2000. They only report part of the story and they emphasize anything that can be sensationalized in a visual context. I also got tired of ads for movies and TV shows disguised as "news". The bias is far worse today as the power of reporting is too concentrated in too few hands.

    Newspapers are getting more biased. It doesn't help that many areas only have one local newspapers when fifty years ago there were multiple resources. That concentrated the source of news into one place which was exploited when powerful interests infiltrated a central source and exerted their influence. I live in a small community and we actually have two newspapers - one has a healthy balance while the other is blatantly biased. Many times both have the same story, but the biased one omits some text that changes the story. I don't like that manipulation and deception.

    Having abandoned TV and largely print news, that leaves the internet. But many news websites are NOT journalism, they are tabloids disguised as news outlets. I stopped visiting some legitimate news sources because the ad content is too dense or too disruptive. The decent news outlets are few and far between and it really takes some cherry picking to find them. The bright side of legitimate news websites is that as more people have abandoned the biased print media they are showing signs of collapsing, which may finally break the cycle of power concentrated into too few hands.

    FB is hardly a beacon of journalistic integrity. I ignore the trending section. Too many news stories in my feed are blatantly false or biased. When a headline uses tabloid catch-phrases like "This is HUGE!" I get really p!ssed for them wasting my time. I make it a point to do fact checking before passing on a story on my timeline, and even then I seldom do that more than once a month if at all. I block many of these because my FB friends keep passing around the junk and don't take the effort to check the source. I block some of my friends from my feed because they spout some really offensive stuff.

    A lot of the junk tabloid websites bring up pop-under ads that can be potential malware if I close them (telltale sign "Are you sure you really want to close this?"), so I have to pull the internet and use Activity Monitor (I'm on a Mac) to safely force the application to close. Any tabloid that spreads malware really grinds my gears so I maintain a list of websites to avoid.

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  34. The media in 1972 was more than just TV by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    The truth about Nixon is that he was living in an age with basically a single-source media - Television. The TV news people weren't letting the story go, so he had to go.

    The Watergate story was broken by the Washington Post NEWSPAPER. If you think TV was the only news source in 1972-73 then you are completely clueless. Newspapers, magazine, TV, and radio were all substantial parts of the media in the early 1970s.

    1. Re:The media in 1972 was more than just TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people didn't read a paper. They did watch Walter Cronkite, though.

  35. Disturbing trend...FAIL GENERATION. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is disturbing and saddens me greatly, given facebook, twitter and reddit are are censoring and oppressing these days...

    FAIL GENERATION.

  36. Watergate by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    how about one that implies some kind of fixed morality to the world that justified taking Nixon out while leaving Hillary Clinton free, considering they both did pretty much the same thing.

    Exactly when did Hillary Clinton wiretap the Democratic Party Headquarters? When did she order the CIA to block the FBI's investigation? When did Hillary force the Attorney General and Deputies to resign? When did Hillary authorize the White House to pay blackmail payments?

    Hillary hasn't even come close to the lack of ethics shown by the Nixon administration. If you think otherwise you don't understand the Watergate scandal well enough.

    1. Re:Watergate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hillary does similar things on a global scale and more. How about mass surveillance? If the DOJ weren't currently blocking an FBI investigation at her behest, she probably would arrange for a new attorney general. Did Nixon or his secretary of state invade Libya for its oil, violate the war powers act, and create a power vacuum (or worse, direct support and weapons) for ISIS? How unethical do you have to be to get called out for lying about taking helicopter fire by Sinbad? She's horrible. At least Nixon may have cared about America. She just wants to divide and conquer it so that a few super rich people can get even richer. That's why the Saudis, Qataris, etc., are funding a large part of her campaign. That's why she gets a quarter million per speech from Goldman Sachs. That's why she wants open borders. Nixon did unethical things in order to win an election. She's so much worse than Nixon because she's doing unethical things in order to destroy our democracy in favor of a global totalitarian oligarchy.

    2. Re:Watergate by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      This Libya crap is nonsense.

      We went into Libya at the specific request of the Arabs. It was the Arab League that requested we intervene.

      Also, the military is another department. That's the DoD and the President. Visit a real military installation some time and look at their chain of command.

      Yours is precisely the kind of mindless nonsense that Facebook helps perpetuate. Although Fox News probably already has this particular nonsense covered.

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    3. Re:Watergate by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Hillary did what Nixon should have done, *Burn The Tapes*! The only lesson learned from Watergate was to cover your tracks better, don't get caught. The corruption of government hasn't changed since Caesar. It seems senseless to bring it up over and over, only to repeat the same mistake.

      There are more than two candidates on the ballot.

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  37. I can't even imagine what it's like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I look at Facebook, there's basically no content. I would be starving for information if that's how I got it. I don't mean that it's biased, or it's lame, I mean it's anemic and an insignificant trickle. All I see on Facebook are people talking about how they spent their day, where they shop, and (from certain people) a nonstop barrage of "political" flames.

    I'm certainly not surprised that TV is overtaken, but I would think the web would be the crushing force, not a empty game-like non-newsy niche within the web.

    How can anyone get by using something like Facebook to find out what's going on? It seems you would miss well over 99% of everything. I totally don't get it.

  38. Social media is.... by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    ...the one news source that's worse than television news. Even Fox News usually refrains from making shit up (i.e. they take real events but report them incorrectly), but Facebook is littered with outright hoaxes.

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  39. Re:Newspapers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And there was no News in (of) The World, so they stopped publication.

  40. And in other news... by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

    ...stuff gets wet when it rains.

  41. It's no different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook, like mainstream media is controlled by Jews and used to spread their lies and propaganda. Same bullshit, different platform.

  42. sure it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nixon wasn't impeached or even accused of 'condoning' or ordering a break-in at the Watergate. Even his worst enemies at the time didn't accuse him of that, that would have been stupid. No, his crime was covering up the break-in and then hiding the evidence, specifically the White House taping system. Sound familiar?

    1. Re:sure it is by dywolf · · Score: 1

      No. because I live in reality.

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  43. Really scary by StandardCell · · Score: 1

    The recent admissions by Facebook and Twitter for politically slanting/altering their feeds combined with the average idiot's inability to obtain information from multiple sources indicates one of the most dangerous times for this and many other countries.

    Even worse, the attention-mongering media that can't be trusted either now uses the most outrageous social media posts to create controversial news stories and attract viewers/listeners/clicks.

    The real failure is in the system of education. Few people are taught to view all sources of media rather than surround themselves with a conglomerate echo chamber of someone else's view of the world. I have even less faith that there will be any meaningful change to alleviate that problem either.

  44. This is good by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

    Main stream media has been known to be politically spin either left or right and not be unbiased in their reporting. At least in social media, you can get individuals ideas on an event over scripted political stuff.

  45. The story title should read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Social Media Overtakes Television As Young People's Main Source of Propaganda, Says Report

  46. One as good by furry_wookie · · Score: 1

    Well, one source of fake news and false information is just as good as another...

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  47. No! Bad! by CresCoJeff · · Score: 1

    I see two big, big problems here:
    1. People getting their news from social media services that are not even nominally bound by any sort of journalistic integrity. Amidst allegations of liberal favoritism, Facebook recently said that, in addition to trending topics and modest human curation which is supposed to be unbiased and minimal, news feed content derives from algorithmically cherry-picked stories; said cherry-picking is conducted with the goal of keeping the user engaged and/or happy [citation needed, I know -- I can't find it]. Unless the user is a psychopath, they're unlikely to get a very complete picture of current events if they only see news stories that are pleasantly interesting. Facebook is neat, but the content it displays to users is unabashedly influenced by what is popular and/or fun, and therefore not a reliable (complete) news source. That said, since mass media is largely fueled by ad revenue and/or ratings systems, even the most reputable sources are prone to sensationalism (this is obviously not new), which segues nicely into the next point...
    2. People aren't checking citations. Regardless of where you get your news, knowing where a story came from is critical: in the absence of some sort of magically unbiased, 100% honest and trustworthy news outlet (I'm waiting for Newsbot AI, programmed by a different and very dispassionate AI to remove human bias entirely), the best we can do as readers is to compare multiple (ideally oppositely biased) news sources. If you ignore the citations, not only are you devaluing the very notion of citation (and, by extension, journalism), but you're also missing the particular shaker of salt you probably should be taking a given story with.

  48. A symptom of a broken system by melting_clock · · Score: 1

    The quality of news reporting from traditional sources has been in decline for many years. So called journalists will publish press releases as news, with no fact checks or any other basic journalism. The traditional players will present advertisements as news which is intentionally deceptive and a breach of trust with their readers or viewers. The less dishonest will at least note in the heading that it is a sponsored article. Political bias is another problem with factual reporting of news.

    If you can't trust the traditional news organisations, you might as well get the news from whatever some random person posts on the internet. There are some good blogs, youtube channels and forums for technical news that the mainstream media has never been good with.

    1. Re:A symptom of a broken system by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      Decline? I didn't realize there was sufficiently anything on TV (aside from PBS) that could be characterize one way or the other. A bunch of A.D.D. snippets introduced by washed up beauty pageant contestants with advertisements breaking up the monotony. I've never known anything else to exist. Meaningful news has always been in printed form. As print news transitions from paper to web I could see the term "decline" applied to paper.

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  49. Time to up my investment in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brawndo.

    President Camacho: Now I understand everyone's shit's emotional right now. But I've got a 3 point plan that's going to fix EVERYTHING.
    Congressman #1: Break it down, Camacho!
    President Camacho: Number 1: We've got this guy Not Sure. Number 2: He's got a higher IQ than ANY MAN ALIVE. and Number 3: He's going to fix EVERYTHING.

    Who knew "Idiocracy" was actually a road map for the future of civilization?

  50. Remember printed newspapers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see no one suggesting reading printed newspapers. They used to be the reference for serious journalism, not TV, not social media. That was not so long ago. The Economist is one of the rare remaining well researched journal. Compare that to ... Facebook video comments, announced as our next cognitive stage. Good luck making informed decisions about your life, health, family and education. We will vote for the President we deserve.