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Samsung Permanently Discontinues Galaxy Note 7 (twitter.com)
After the replacement units of Galaxy Note 7 also started to catch fire, Samsung is now permanently discontinuing its latest flagship smartphone (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternate source), the company said today. The news comes a day after Samsung halted sales of Note 7 once again and began asking users to return the device. So far nearly 50 incidents of Note 7 causing fires have been reported. More importantly, many people have been physically injured with their new Galaxy phone catching fire. WSJ reports: Samsung said in a filing with South Korean regulators on Tuesday that it would permanently cease sales of the device, a day after it announced a temporary halt to production of the smartphones. "Taking our customer's safety as our highest priority, we have decided to halt sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7," the company said. The move comes on a day when Samsung shares tumbled 8%, its biggest one-day decline in eight years, amid increasing pressure after a new string of reported smartphone fires in the U.S.
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It's sad that Samsung has to discontinue their smartphones over problems like this while Apple denies that the problems exist. I'm looking forward to the Apple worshipers explaining how Apple can pretend that touch disease doesn't exist and the many other problems (including iPhones that had batteries explode) while condemning Samsung.
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The US CPSC has asked consumers to power down all Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phones, whether original or replacement. As in, permanently.
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Ok I admit that I use iOS devices more than android. But why the hate towards Samsung with the good riddance.
I would much rather see them fix the phone so it's users will have a nice safe phone. Vs what it would be now a possibility exploding collectors item. That in 20 years you can sell to a collector for about a grand.
Samsung has been pushing the quality of Android phones. They are no longer cheap Apple rip offs but their own phone market. Where Apple has to take notice and the competition impress their phone as well.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Why the hate? This is a meaningless fanboi (or is it hateboi) post. Still in search of clicks? Perhaps there is hope for you yet, as a political correspondent/stenographer/hack.
The previous story is still on the front page, posted a mere 9 hours ago.
Heads are going to roll all around after an event like this one.
Somebody will probably end up writing a book on what went on inside, because I imagine that the internal meetings had some serious drama involved.
I hope there's going to be a post-mortem at some point, because it would be very interesting to find out what went wrong in the end. Rogue manufacturer? Bad quality control? Maybe the phone doing something wrong with charging, as somebody suggested on reddit?
I could care less, but then I wouldn't have posted at all.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
How is this possible if only 50 phone fires have been reported and the majority of those reports are unsubstantiated? Is this a new use of the word "many" that I have been unaware of? Does the word "many" mean "extremely few compared to the number of sold phones" in this context?
Yes, yes there is.
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Now, Samsung, kindly go back to producing 10 and 12 inch tablets with proper S Pen support and Miracast.
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...for new year's eve. It will make an amazing firework!
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sim, essa puta que meu pai tá falandono telefone vai embora quando eu acordo, dá até pra sentir o cheiro da buceta podre dessa prostituta.
I am more concerned with my exploding toploading washer
It was already outdate anyway at the rate that samsung is shoting phones out...
your post has zero to do with the topic at hand, or any derivative topics in these comments section.
Wow, can you imagine the amount of upset this will cause to the supply chain and also to the thousands of people involved in designing, building, and who were supposed to sell this phone?
The assembly and manufacture of these phones employs thousands of people, spins up parts supply chains for years (and already did for months in preparation), and was planned to use a significant chunk of the global capacity of glass, machine tools, electronic components, transportation, labor, etc. Now which all will have to find new places to go, which will take more than a few months.
Regardless of how you feel about Samsung in general, the "hidden", not as public, effects of this very big mistake will affect many, many peoples' lives in a real way (aside from a handful of people at the top).
So 0.001% of Samsung 7's sold explode yet 100% of iPhone 7's have defective headphone jacks?
Fanboi?
Serves them right for putting the back button in the wrong place (for us westerners).
Burn in hell.
I bet that at some point one of these two tings have been brought up by engineers within the company:
Why was this information not passed on? What manager didn't react to it?
This goes way beyond a simple hardware issue.
Maybe throw in some very small updates so the specs aren't -identical-.
To discontinue a flagship product, now THAT takes courage.
What if we look at it as a feature, not a bug? An initial hypothesis for further brainstorming, - imagine if a person breaks a law, and there is a court decision for it, the special message is sent to the criminal's smartphone, wherever he is, and the smartphone ignites.
It could be used also in cases when a smartphone is stolen.
I imagine Samsung will issue a statement later saying that removing the Note 7 from production took "courage".
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And do not lie; anybody that has had to deal with you knows that you are arrogant, heavy handed and just plain obnoxious to your customers. If any company, apart from Microsoft, deserved a fiasco like this, Samsung did.
This would happen anyway - manufacturers ramp up the hiring of people before the launch and then ramp them down. And it is less bad than you make it out to be. Customers will buy other phones. There is a lot of overlap in the supply chain for today's smartphones. The further downstream you go from Samsung, the less the impact. Even if people do a 180 and buy an iPhone, it will increase business in a different part of Samsung and people will get reallocated. And Samsung will accelerate their next-gen phone with more engineers focused on new product and less engineers on field issues (since most of those from their current phone have been address in the manufacturing line).
There was nothing wrong with the phones except the smart battery management was being hijacked by malware. Typically its hardware but often there is a bus and if it is possible to update the firmware remotely then it's a hacking dream to full on make phones explode.
Considering that the charger is in the phone itself
This circuitry's job is "only" to take care of the lithium cells.
It's a very critical task (avoid over current, avoid over voltage, avoid over heating, avoid over charge, avoid too fast charging, avoid a deep dis-charge, refuse to charge after a dangerously too deep discharge, etc. Basically Lithium has a tendency to explode if you look it the wrong way).
But it still only just this task.
It guarantees nothing else beyond this task.
and all the usb cable does is provide 5v power to the phone
THAT is the point of failure.
Everything assumes that the cable will provide more or less around 5v.
And there's circuitry to shut down the input if veers a a little bit too much away from the safe zone around 5v.
But some ultra-cheap no-name chargers are built hastily.
To save costs and speed up deliveries, the circuitry tends to be over simplified and the skip on some security features.
The cheapest sub-5$ chargers ARE NOT fail safe.
how could the cable cause the battery to catch fire?
The shitty after-market charger could over heat, melt some electrical paths, and suddenly wire it's output path straight to the 100-240V AC input.
Suddenly this USB charger has managed to transform your 5v USB charging cable into the USB cousin of The "Etherkiller".
And the security inside most smartphones was never meant to be exposed to 100-240V AC 10-20A.
The 5W it usually operates at is magnitude smaller than what can be delivered when such a fault happens.
At that point everything overheats massively and catches fire:
- charger, cable, whole smartphone...
Even if the battery by some magic wasn't exposed to the shock, the subsequent fire of everything around it will make it explode.
In other words (incoming ob. car analogy !) you're complaining that the wind-shield of your car is damaged although it was supposed to be bullet proof when in practice the whole street was levelled by a nuke dropped from low-orbit.
Final score:
Smartphone : 0
USB-killer : 1
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No, silly, he's talking about their exploding washer line. If the load is heavy enough, and the washer agitates just enough, the power circuit board shorts out and blows up. I suspect that the agitation shorts the windings on the step down transformer which then applies 120V to the (max) 25V power conditioning caps (those big ones that eliminate ripple). Then again, 120V to a 25V inductor's (or the low voltage side of the step down transformer's) not going to make it very happy, either.
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Hope you don't have one of these bad boys:)
Considering this is /. professional coders club
and
2 biggest players in mobile market always at war, amount of money and market share involved and facts that phone hardware or batteries are not a rocket science, yet it is such a mystery!
How about a possibility of a different approach?
Something along the old and famous Iranian centrifuge mystery maybe?
All phone manufacturers should wake up and realize they could have easily run into the same issue from their battery supplier.
Going back to removable batteries would reduce the risk of such a costly recall and give consumers what they want.
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They should pull the batteries, fill the spot with epoxy (to prevent people from putting batteries back in them), and resell the devices as cheap tethered tablets.
They won't be able to sell them high enough to make up the cost of the device, but at least they'd get some money.
I think they should have a 78 cent piece.
I bought a Note 7 on zero day for my wife. She loved it.
Samsung and the carrier both sent OMFG turn it off now or you WILL die texts / emails.
Took it back and exchanged it for a 'temp phone' Galaxy S7 Edge phone. This phone has been nothing but trouble. It overheats/ reboots / runs slow.
We now have an iPhone 7 Plus on the way to replace it permanently. I'm sure she'll hate that too but Samsung it hurting on quality control these days and it might just be the bump LG / HTC / Huawei needs to un-seat Samsung for flagship phones.
Ship all the remaining Note 7's to North Korea, so that they can use them in their weapons
They'll just make a permanent fix for the problem and issue a new version of the phone. It's not like they don't know how to make phones that won't catch fire.
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Climate changed caused this. With the ambient temperatures increasing, the battery cannot cool effectively anymore. Disputing this make you a denier!
There fixed it for ya.
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
Having read past slashdot discussions on the topic of Note 7 devices combusting, then one salient point was the existence of very many variables with lithium batteries, such as overcharging, undercharging, discharging and also the speed at which these processes happen. The second and more important point that a different comment expressed, took note, that a Note 7 caught fire when it was shut down, which (as I recall) seemed like an issue with non-replaceable firmware in the phone's cirquitry. Well, that's how I remember it.
AFAIK, removable batteries are very likely to each have their own charging circuitry; but with internal batteries, it appears to be just battery cells, and the dedicated charging circuitry might as well have been replaced with and relegated to phone software (incl. firmware) and the CPU (yes, I may be wrong; I don't possess exact knowledge).
Anyway, in such a setup of just the CPU and phone software/firmware doing the work of the charging circuitry, I would not find it surprising if errors creep up.
Because if only primary software (firmware) and the CPU are made responsible to work on something that dedicated circuitry did before, then that software has to be as tough as mission-critical stuff launched into space.
Not sure if Android itself is involved, but the Note 7 is not the Apollo Guidance Computer, and Android is not VxWorks (not related to AGC), or even Symbian.
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