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Yahoo Patents Smart Billboard That Would Deliver Targeted Ads To Passersby or Motorists (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Yahoo has filed a patent for advertising billboards outfitted with a wide array of sensors -- including drone-based cameras -- which would use facial and vehicle recognition, data brokers, cell-tower information and social network information to attempt to identify worthwhile advertising targets and aim personalized ads at them as they pass on foot or in cars. The scheme, which was submitted on October 6th, anticipates using the same kind of micro-auction processes that currently determine which ads users see in webpages and mobile apps. The implementation of public ad-targeting brings up some fascinating and chilling prospects, as users find that the ads which "bloom" around them betray much about their private lives. Yahoo provides an example via its patent application: "According to one example, a digital billboard adjacent a busy freeway might be instrumented with or located near traffic sensors that detect information about the context of the vehicles approaching the billboard, e.g., the number and average speed of the vehicles. Such information might be used in conjunction with information about the time of day and/or the day of the week (e.g., Monday morning rush hour) to select advertisements for display that would appeal to an expected demographic and to display the advertisements for durations that are commensurate with the level of traffic congestion." The patent application also mentions how it will gather required information from individuals: "Various types of data (e.g., cell tower data, mobile app location data, image data, etc.) can be used to identify specific individuals in an audience in position to view advertising content. Similarly, vehicle navigation/tracking data from vehicles equipped with such systems could be used to identify specific vehicles and/or vehicle owners. Demographic data (e.g., as obtained from a marketing or user database) for the audience can thus be determined for the purpose of, for example, determining whether and/or the degree to which the demographic profile of the audience corresponds to a target demographic."

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  1. Like your license plate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Which they certainly wouldn't just pass on to federal agencies....

    1. Re:Like your license plate! by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you can't trust Yahoo then, oh never mind.

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    2. Re:Like your license plate! by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

      How can this possibly be "patented"? It's been in every movie for the last 50 years.

      The patent system is completely broken.

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    3. Re:Like your license plate! by syn3rg · · Score: 1

      this isn't the future i was promised...

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    4. Re:Like your license plate! by BubbaJonBoy · · Score: 1

      No shit - aside from the execrable Minority Report it has also been a staple in many cyberpunk novels such as "Altered Carbon". Let's just hope the Neural Cast never comes into being.

  2. Imagine what Google could do by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Between Waze and Google Maps, Google probably knows a LOT of detailed info about most of the cars passing near any particular billboard in any particular city... they could make a killing doing a much more targeted advertisement that would directly appeal to specific individuals passing by.

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    1. Re:Imagine what Google could do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As long as they want a 55 gallon drum of lube on the billboard.

    2. Re:Imagine what Google could do by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine the cognitive dissonance during the next election. Or let's see, eight heteros, five homos, two unsure, what do we throw onto the billboard?

      I envision a person walking with their soon to be ex while the billboard says: bought that pistol yet? Funeral arrangements? Mexico vacation?

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    3. Re:Imagine what Google could do by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      An ad for a huuuuuuge buttplug appears. Everyone looks at everyone else.

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    4. Re:Imagine what Google could do by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      I'm imagining the family van driving by and the 6 year old learning to read: "Mommy, what are adult toys?"

  3. In other news... by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    Yahoo!, desperate to pull out of their inverted -8 G dive into the asphalt, pitches bullshit idea about advertising.

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    1. Re:In other news... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Ladies and Gentlemen of The Jury, this tragic accident would have never happened without a targeted and pre-planned ad directed at my client! The instant the advertisers, the ad delivery company, and Yahoo made good on their conspiracy to display an ad for Viagra, my client looked down in shame... and a young life was snuffed out forever... by the callous disregard for the dangers of distracted driving by the advertisers and those working on their behalf."

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    2. Re:In other news... by youngone · · Score: 1
      Maybe they think they will get a bit more for the corpse if they have a bunch of "IP".

      Not sure who is stupid enough to fall for this.

      Rupert Murdoch paid $580 million for Myspace, and based on his personal life never learns a lesson, so they might pitch themselves to him.

    3. Re:In other news... by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

      Rupert Murdoch paid $580 million for Myspace, and based on his personal life never learns a lesson, so they might pitch themselves to him.

      Both Yahoo and Rupert Murdoch disagree with your assessment of the man.. There is no way Murdoch would be interested in the company.

    4. Re:In other news... by youngone · · Score: 1
      The link you posted seems to agree with my assessment.

      Bought for $580 million, sold for $35 million.

    5. Re:In other news... by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 1

      Your assessment was that he doesn't learn from his mistakes. He clearly did learn from buying Myspace.

    6. Re:In other news... by youngone · · Score: 1
      My assessment was that he makes poor decisions, the MySpace shambles being one.

      He has since married and divorced, (and paid out) Wendi Deng, and become engaged to Jerry Hall, neither of which are prudent financial decisions.

  4. so...just watch the ads change by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    as she passes by the billboard. gives a new meaning to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  5. I'm on 805 south at 6:45 am by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    With a few hundred of my like minded "get to work before traffic really sucks". Which targeted ad are you gonna show? I drive this 5 days a week and know where the billboards are, how you gonna make me look at them? Geocities type flashing and blinking? Good luck with that. I'm looking to pick a lane to get me to work 2 seconds faster, not looking at billboards..

    1. Re:I'm on 805 south at 6:45 am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      all kinds of choices for the stuck-in-traffic zombies:
      employment search sites, divorce lawyers, match.com, take-out and delivery restaurants, automobile insurance, tow trucks, personal injury lawyers, therapists, anti depression meds, vacation destinations.. to mention a few (or ten).

    2. Re:I'm on 805 south at 6:45 am by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I drive this 5 days a week and know where the billboards are, how you gonna make me look at them? Geocities type flashing and blinking? Good luck with that.

      Video billboards already exist. They are fairly common in high-traffic corridors; for example, there are several on the CA 101. They tend to be located in places where traffic is frequently slowed due to... uh, traffic. They do not flash, but they do change, which draws the eye.

      I do think they're dangerous, simply because they do draw the attention more than normal billboards. I think normal billboards are dangerous enough.

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    3. Re:I'm on 805 south at 6:45 am by omnichad · · Score: 1

      The reason they're dangerous is because they don't dim enough at night and cause road blindness. At least the ones around me. They should have ambient light sensors and dim appropriately.

  6. so goes the same in meatspace. by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The same thing that happens when I visit youtube will invariably begin to happen when I pass this billboard. Rolling along in my 1993 Lincoln town car, with my cellphone switched off for the evening commute as its both safer and avoids targeted advertising, ill glance at the horizon. Ahead, I'll see the new Yahoo billboard, and just as I approach, it will hesitate for a second before displaying the same Kardashian/Dr Phil/clickbait/pop topic trending at the national level and sponsored accordingly to do so.

    and in the midst of a 5 lane highway, im certain this billboard will get exciting.

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    1. Re:so goes the same in meatspace. by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      <blink> Buy ACME epilepsy medicine!!! </blink>
      <blink> Buy ACME epilepsy medicine!!! </blink>
      <blink> Buy ACME epilepsy medicine!!! </blink>

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    2. Re:so goes the same in meatspace. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You have barely touched on it.
      Remember Head-Up Displays, the ones that projected various kinds of information on your windscreen directly in front of you, that blocked your vision, and were just generally distracting?
      There is no technical reason why the projectors have to be _inside_ the car... talk about a captive audience.

  7. Fantastic. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    I can only hope(though doubt) that the person responsible for this 'innovation' is appropriately ashamed of who they are and what they have done.

    There are plenty of people who are useless; but this winner is actively making the world just a little bit worse. I hope that weighs on them.

  8. Yahoo's first ad on new digital billboard system by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Funny

    *** Internet Company For Sale ****

    Price with CEO: $4.8 Billion
    Price without CEO: $8.8 Billion

  9. Minority Report by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    John Anderton, you could use a Guinness right about now.

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    1. Re:Minority Report by niks42 · · Score: 1

      Surely being in a movie renders a concept unpatentable either for obviousness or for prior art. Actually, I prefer the latter.

    2. Re:Minority Report by Dan+East · · Score: 1

      Came to post this video clip but you beat me to the reference. Here's the clip anyway....
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    3. Re:Minority Report by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

      Yea, I sure was thinking "Prior Art" as I read the snippet. We sure have an interesting patent office if they "missed" that.

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    4. Re:Minority Report by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the improvement.

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    5. Re:Minority Report by niks42 · · Score: 1

      When I was in the business of designing stuff, our company would only normally patent implementations that found their way into a product. The process for a patent was too expensive to be frivolous with. They published everything else in a house journal to put a mark in the sand for demonstrating prior art, or obviousness should any other bunch of idiots try and patent it.

      However this meant that we were an early victim of a patent troll, which might have been avoided if only we had patented something that might be regarded as 'obvious'. Basically a bunch of lawyers in California had bought up the patents for a number of methods, including the use of exclusive-or to put a graphic representation of a cursor (arrow, bar, cross-hair) on a monochrome display, and using the same exclusive-or to remove it again, returning the display back the way it was. In our investigations we realised that we had several hardware products out in the marketplace that this patent pre-dated that used the same method.

      A meeting between IP lawyers was convened, our guys went in with $3M in their pockets as a reasonable outcome, offered $300K as a starting offer which the trolls accepted gleefully. I suppose it was a win-win. It still rankled.

    6. Re:Minority Report by Gibgezr · · Score: 1

      For years many software publishers paid those goons 25 cents on every copy sold, over that silly xor'd sprite patent.

  10. Re:Yahoo's first ad on new digital billboard syste by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Price with CEO: 4.8 Billion Price with punching Marissa Meyers in the face: 8.8 Billion.

  11. Re:Glad somebody watched Minority Report by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    Or played Mass Effect 2.

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  12. Just what we need by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    something else to distract your attention from what's in front of you...

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  13. I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

    I'm sick of ads evading our time and space with no respect for people.

    When are people going to realize this excessive greed has to stop.

    Could we just ban ads already for once and for all instead of allowing them to visually pollute our physical and virtual places.

    1. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Could we just ban ads already for once and for all instead of allowing them to visually pollute our physical and virtual places.

      Ever see the movie Branded?

    2. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Nope.

      You've piqued my curiosity now. :-)

    3. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      ... ads evading our time and space ...

      If only they could do that...

    4. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by bbsguru · · Score: 1

      Simple solution: stop responding to advertising.
      If you/everyone did, it would go away almost instantly...
      Nimrod.

      The reason you see advertising is that advertising works. Get over it.

    5. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      It's pretty weird, but I loved it. Especially the vodka salesman. Towards the end it gets...interesting.

    6. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      The (2012) version looks interesting !

      In future Moscow, where corporate brands have created a disillusioned population, one man's effort to unlock the truth behind the conspiracy will lead to an epic battle with hidden forces that control the world.

      I've ordered the Blu-Ray

    7. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Just watched this last night -- loved it !!

      You're right about it getting weird -- especially around the red bull part. :-)

      It reminds me of

      Network (1976)
      They Live (1988)

      That very end doctor scene -- was that Misha ? Was it intentional that it was open-ended?

    8. Re:I'm starting to believe: Ads == Immoral by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Those are two of my favorites, I need to rewatch these again. Not sure about that last scene, it's been a few years since I've seen it.

  14. Blue light special by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean people walking near me will also be able to see that for some reason, Yahoo is targeting me with ads for Oxycontin, pornhub and pork rinds?

    This makes me a little uncomfortable.

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    1. Re:Blue light special by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Does this mean people walking near me will also be able to see that for some reason, Yahoo is targeting me with ads for Oxycontin, pornhub and pork rinds?

      This makes me a little uncomfortable.

      Just wait until they create targeted ads and you have to explain Oxyporkhub to your as-of-yet friends.

  15. Re:DISTRACTION by Khyber · · Score: 1

    They generally are, look up 'attractive nuisance' laws in your jurisdiction. Some specifically ban signs that are not externally-illuminated (making electronic signs illegal.)

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  16. Brazil's biggest city is ahead: NO BILLBOARDS by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yahoo, get a competent CEO!!!

    The World's Fourth-Largest City Outlaws Billboards, Calls It 'Visual Pollution' (2007)

    Sao Paulo: The City That Said No To Advertising (2007)

    Quote: '... all forms of outdoor advertising were to be prohibited, including ads on taxis, on buses -- even shopfronts were to be restricted, their signs limited to 1.5 metres for every 10 metres of frontage. "It is hard in a city of 11 million people to find enough equipment and personnel to determine what is and isn't legal," reasoned Kassab, "so we have decided to go all the way." '

    Can cities kick ads? Inside the global movement to ban urban billboards (2015) Quote:

    Quote: "First it was Sao Paulo, then Chennai. Then Grenoble, Tehran, Paris and now even New York have spawned movements to replace or ban outdoor advertising."

    1. Re:Brazil's biggest city is ahead: NO BILLBOARDS by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I also live in a city that has banned billboards. And I completely understand the logic. Either they work and they catch your attention while you should be focused on driving, hence they should be banned. Or their don't work, so they are useless (and ugly), hence they should be banned.

      The only negative is that there is less revenue for the city through billboard taxes, hence more taxes for the rest of us.

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    2. Re:Brazil's biggest city is ahead: NO BILLBOARDS by Vermonter · · Score: 2

      I live in an entire state (Vermont) that has banned billboards for a long time now. The reasoning here is that billboards would obstruct the natural beauty of the state.

    3. Re:Brazil's biggest city is ahead: NO BILLBOARDS by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Quote: "First it was Sao Paulo, then Chennai. Then Grenoble, Tehran, Paris and now even New York have spawned movements to replace or ban outdoor advertising."

      I'm curious who you are quoting (above) because in NYC even the MTA buses carry ads, and the "express" buses catering to the "commuter elite" have advertising that wraps all around the bus - sides, rear, even the windows:

      http://secondavenuesagas.com/2010/02/09/finding-the-money-ad-agency-owes-mta-18m/

    4. Re:Brazil's biggest city is ahead: NO BILLBOARDS by chihowa · · Score: 2

      I used to live in a town that not only banned billboards, but also banned the use of color in illuminated signs and had a height restriction for all commercial signs. Driving into town at night was a bit surreal, but the overall effect was visually very pleasant. Our overly commercialized cities are really pretty ugly and tacky.

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  17. "I didn't order a penis pump, honest!" by Tablizer · · Score: 1
  18. Hmmm. Prior Art?? by rholtzjr · · Score: 1

    I thought I saw this in a movie (Minority Report). Though it was accomplished by a retina scan, but same concept. Would this be considered prior art?

    1. Re:Hmmm. Prior Art?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Try London 7 years ago. Castrol set a billboard up with an ANPR camera attached to the DVLA database. When you drove by it read your licence plate, looked the car up, and displayed the oil it though you needed.

      Yess, I know it's the Daily Fail, but...
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216414/Now-drivers-details-sold-DVLA-used-bizarre-roadside-adverts-Castrol.html

    2. Re:Hmmm. Prior Art?? by kenthompson1 · · Score: 1

      I thought I saw this in a movie (Minority Report). Though it was accomplished by a retina scan, but same concept. Would this be considered prior art?

      It depends what the claims of their patent application recite. I haven't read them. But, anything published prior to the filing date of their application may be used as prior art.. I've had youtube videos cited in rejections.

  19. So, where can I buy by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

    a case of Coffiest?

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  20. Can you spell 'Duh' by Kreigh · · Score: 1

    How is this a patent? Advertisers have been targeting motorists for decades. Digital billboards are old news. What's wrong with this picture? How is this original? What am I missing?

    1. Re:Can you spell 'Duh' by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How is this original? What am I missing?

      As per TFS, this is "original" (though frankly, obvious) because the billboards will display targeted ads. There's no law prohibiting storing your license plate number and associating it with your identity. Barring that, they'll just show generic ads, or maybe they'll recognize certain makes of car and show specific ads to people with expensive conveyances.

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  21. Re:Insurance Moffia i.e. Insurance Companies Love by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been appointed by the entire human race to inform you that you don't know what you are talking about.

    Car-insurance companies very much want people to pay their premiums like clockwork, and never get in an accident.

    Life-insurance companies very much want people to pay their premiums like clockwork, and live long and happy lives.

    Funeral homes? Well, they do serve the dead, but they're run by caring human beings who very much want all of us to be on this earth as long as possible, and then take care of us after our One Bad Day.

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  22. Hello John Anderton by sTERNKERN · · Score: 1

    You could use a Guiness right now..

  23. Re:Pornagraphic by reboot246 · · Score: 2

    There's probably no need to do all of that. Hackers will be changing the billboards anyway. We're talking Yahoo "security" here.

  24. Wow! by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So if I drive with a Miss Piggy mask as adblocker, they'll show me frog-legs ads?

    1. Re:Wow! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      You'll have to take the battery out of your cellphone too for it not to recognize you.

      Seriously, I'm considering to stop carrying a cellphone.

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  25. Maybe Ted was right by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Maybe the Unibomer was right. Technology is evil

    1. Re:Maybe Ted was right by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      You might as well say "power is evil." It's not. The problem is that your adversaries have more than you.

      If the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be in favor of people having the ability to do more things easier. And then you'd be saying "Maybe Conan was right. Crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women is best in life!"

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  26. Is this really new? by bbsguru · · Score: 1

    The first time I heard about this it was being used on a freeway-adjacent billboard in Sacramento CA, around 2003.
    I've always assumed the idea was being used lots of places, since it would explain why
    I see so many ads for Bail Bonds when travelling with my brother in law.

  27. Prior Art by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1

    You can't patent something that somebody else thought of first; the trick is to prove it. --- Of course, ANYBODY who saw the movie Minority Report has seen this technology demonstrated years ago. --- So, this will stand for about 30 seconds into the first court challenge.

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  28. Great! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Informative

    So now every time I pass by a billboard it's going to display ads for extra extra large condoms... ... how embarrassing.

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  29. Re:Until... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    I think I've read about screens that can project different images in different directions. Maybe oneday the technology will get so good that everyone looking at the screen will see something different.

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  30. Re:Glad somebody watched Minority Report by 3vi1 · · Score: 1

    Seriously. How do you patent something that's completely obvious, not really hard to implement, and publicly seen in a movie 14 years ago?

  31. Welll... by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    ... Normally I hate these kinds of stupid patents, but if this helps prevent others from implementing this nonsense, I might be able to get behind this...

  32. I can see it now by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

    Hey, Joe Smith! Yes, You in the Blue Ford F150, This Bud's For You!

  33. Just Wait by thundercattt · · Score: 1

    For that 16 year old kid who figures out how to hack into it and outs a dancing ass on the billboard all day.

  34. Minority Reports anyone? by Vorl · · Score: 1

    This was obvious, it was already done in movies even. The one I remember the clearest was minority report.

  35. Re:Insurance Moffia i.e. Insurance Companies Love by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

    I'm stealing your tagline.

  36. Re:Until... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I think I've read about screens that can project different images in different directions.

    They exist and they're used in some cars, like the current S-Class. It has two dash displays, one of which is different from each of the front seats. But in between, there's an area where it doesn't show anything clearly.

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  37. Prior Art? by EETech1 · · Score: 1
  38. Political action in NY is not yet successful. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    It says, "... New York have spawned movements...", not actually banned ads.

    1. Re:Political action in NY is not yet successful. by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Yes, I realized that after posting. But I am not aware of such a "movement" in NYC either.

      The buses are a sore point with me because the wrap-around advertising serves to sort of camouflage them against the backdrop of traffic. I think that's a safety issue, especially for pedestrians.