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Samsung Will Credit You $100 If You Exchange Your Note 7 For Another Samsung Phone (mashable.com)

In an effort to presumably stop customers from jumping ship to the iPhone 7 or other non-Samsung device, Samsung is offering up to $100 in credit to every customer who exchanges their Note 7 for another Samsung smartphone. Mashable reports: The company said so in its updated Note 7 recall page which plainly states that the recall has now been expanded to "all Galaxy Note 7 devices," and asks consumers with a Note 7 to power it down and return it to the place of purchase. Bear in mind that the new offer, which goes live on Oct. 13 at 3 p.m. ET, is only for U.S. customers, as users in other parts of the world have different recall programs in place. Furthermore, if you've already exchanged your Note 7 for another Samsung smartphone, you "will receive up to a $75 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets in addition to the $25 you previously received." Even if you exchange your Note 7 for another brand or ask for a refund, you will still receive a $25 bill credit from select carriers and retailers -- again, less any incentive credits you've already received. "As a sign of our appreciation for your patience and loyalty, we are offering up to a $100 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets if you exchange your Galaxy Note 7 for another Samsung smartphone, less any incentive credits already received," Samsung wrote.

123 comments

  1. Great. by Silicon-Surfer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Out of the frying pan and into the fire?

    1. Re:Great. by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Come on, this is really hot deal.

      Mod parent "Flamebait"!

  2. Can I still buy a Note7? by fatp · · Score: 2

    Seems not bad deal

    1. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You have a verb without a subject.

    2. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can I still buy a Note7?

      long profit() {

      • return -buyNote7() + refundNote7() + 100 + profit();

      }

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    3. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have to happen to have a fondness for Sony, and it goes way back. Terrific Service Manuals back in the seventies.
      Sony bought Minolta, and when the Sensors of the Minolta A1s and A2s Digital Cameras started blowing up shortly afterwards, Sony took on the responsibility. (They were Sony sensors...) My A2 went poof two years after I bought it and one year out of warranty, and Sony, after my forwarding the receipt, gave me the _full_ purchase price back. I bought a Pentax 100d instead of a Sony as they preferred, but still, the thought was nice.

      I'm not familiar with the engineering aspects of these Samsungs. Were the Batteries a Samsung product, or were they third-party? And even further than that... Do any of you lot remember the Great Capacitor Debacle of a decade or so back? Capacitors popping their guts left and right, and it even happened to Apple, with some later expense and loss of Good Will. All due to a pirated formula for a Capacitor Electrolyte.... that was expected to be pirated, and that Apple knew nothing about. (Chinese-Korean trade Wars.)
      If batteries for Samsung phones tend to blow up spectacularly, where this is rare with the competitors, either Samsung screwed up, or Samsung was screwed. But as for Samsung and its hubris, up to now... Such Schadenfreude...

      BTW, no Smartphone for me, not even an Apple.
      I don't even like telephones.

    4. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't fall for it. Recursive "get rich quick" schemes are the worst!

    5. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by MikeDataLink · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dude. They are refunding you for the device... and giving you a $100 credit.

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    6. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to get those phones off the market, the phone companies could just disconnect them. Easy.

    7. Re: Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do get that, if you'd like. The deal is if you trade in for another Samsung phone, not only do they refund the difference in price, they also give you $75 credit on your next phone bill

    8. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will crash on stack error before profit returns.

    9. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... Buy $650 phone which lights pants on fire. Trade flame phone in for $400 Samsung phone + $100? No, I don't think so. I'll take the full price refund, including sales tax + the cost of a new pair of pants.

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    10. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      OK. Back in your meds and then read the article again.

    11. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by tsqr · · Score: 3, Informative

      You have it wrong. You get a full refund whether or not you buy a new Samsung phone. If you buy a new Samsung phone, you also get the $100 credit.

    12. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I have a smart phone and it has nothing to do with owning a telephone. Personally, I rarely actually use the phone features. Even text is pretty minimal. What I do use it for however is a pocket computer. It's great being able to look up things such as bus times. My city has real time location data on all the buses. So I never have to stand out in the cold if it's late, or miss one if it's going to be a few minutes early. Looking up maps can also be quite useful. I always have a camera on me, in case I find something that I want to take a picture of. Great for taking short notes so I remember things for later. Also useful for passing the time when you end up having to wait for something. Listen to music or podcasts, watch movies, play games. Before I had a phone I almost always carried around some kind of music player. Now that my phone has replaced it, and provided so much more functionality, along the lines of probably what 5 devices would have done 20 years ago, It's almost a wonder how I got along without having one before. I really don't care about being constantly connected to people and social media, but it comes in so useful to have a pocket computer on my almost all the time.

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    13. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      error: buyNote7() returns "out of stock" on line 25.

    14. Re: Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only if you buy another crappy samsung-phone - i'd call that a catch :-) on the other hand, if you wanted one before, you're hopeless anyway, so take that 100 and buy a s7

    15. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      Seems a bad decision to me, could cause more harm (several missed calls and messages from customers) then avoid it...

    16. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the correction. The summary didn't make that clear, and I obviously didn't RTFA.

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    17. Re:Can I still buy a Note7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you feel this deep need to be... wired? (Original Minolta A2 guy here.)

      "...It's almost a wonder how I got along without having one before."

      This is sad.
      I like Tech. I even like that Tech that four decades back, I created to make the then nascent "Internet" work.
      But it's just Tech. Technology. It changes all the time.

      I have on my Boat an iPad, loaded with a whole bunch of whiz-bang GPS Goodies. But I also have paper charts, current ones, that don't need batteries to work. It's no wonder that I can get along without that iPad when inevitably it fails.
      It's just Tech after all.

      And I can still live happily without it.

      Captcha: inform

  3. jesus fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who fucking cares!

    1. Re:jesus fuck by joerdie · · Score: 1

      I do. I have the proof to get the $55. Also, it's a tech news story on a tech news website.

  4. Seems Fair by youngone · · Score: 1

    I would take that if I had a Note 7 to exchange. I haven't heard of any fiery Galaxy S7 Edges for example.

    1. Re:Seems Fair by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I thought there was one?

      Not that it matters, I traded my POS G4 in for $300 towards my Note 7, and after the song and dance I now have a 256GB uSD card, a Gear VR, a $100 bill credit in addition to the $300 trade in ($400 in total credit), and I just ordered a S7E for $150. If I cancelled my service tomorrow after getting my S7E, I'd pay a $350 ETF. IOW, have the uSD card, Gear VRm and S7E for $100 free and clear. I'd rather have a Note 7 (that doesn't have the flaw), but I'm not exactly feeling "taken advantage of" at this point.

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    2. Re:Seems Fair by macs4all · · Score: 1

      I would take that if I had a Note 7 to exchange. I haven't heard of any fiery Galaxy S7 Edges for example.

      Well, since it was Samsung that expanded the Recall, I would suggest that they might know a little something (else) they haven't exactly made public...

    3. Re:Seems Fair by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      And pray tell what evidence do you have that Samsung are hiding something, other than an insinuation and a lofty "I suggest..."?

      Please don't try to insult our intelligence like that. You just make yourself look very partisan and very stupid.

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    4. Re:Seems Fair by macs4all · · Score: 1

      And pray tell what evidence do you have that Samsung are hiding something, other than an insinuation and a lofty "I suggest..."?

      Please don't try to insult our intelligence like that. You just make yourself look very partisan and very stupid.

      Actually, I freely admit that I don't know for a fact that they know more than they are letting-on. But this news story certainly suggests something somewhat provocative in that regard... That's what I was thinking-of when I wrote that post.

    5. Re: Seems Fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, Apple troll.

    6. Re: Seems Fair by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Fuck off, Apple troll.

      So, pray tell how that is supposed to be a factual rebuttal to my post?

    7. Re: Seems Fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean your post that contained no facts as well?

  5. Re:Is this a deal? by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you're misunderstanding this. You already get a full refund no matter what you do, but if you get a different Samsung device, Samsung will give you $100 (well actually $75 since they were already offering $25 previously) credit. It's a smart move because as much as $100 costs for the ~2 million Note 7 customers out there, they stand to lose a lot more if people start avoiding their brand due to this. Doing right by your customers is an important part of retaining them.

  6. Re: Is this a deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Reading comprehension would go a long way for you.

  7. Re:Decisions, decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well at least you aren't complaining.

  8. Re:Decisions, decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are plenty of other good Android options, and I see you've rated Blackberry important enough to mention, but not Microsoft.

  9. Re:Decisions, decisions by MightyYar · · Score: 1

    Motorola is owned by Lenovo.

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  10. Many other usages by AchilleTalon · · Score: 2

    Or you can keep it as a distress flare if you are doing much back country hiking or sailing/boating. As a very expensive lighter, it fits the bill as well. Even ISIS is considering these devices for the djihad.

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    1. Re:Many other usages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Even ISIS is considering these devices for the djihad.

      Actually, ALL lithium-ion devices (iPhones included) have HALF as much energy per kilogram than explosives.

  11. Samsung should buy SpaceX by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    Samsung should buy Space X. A nice synergy should emerge from these enterprises.

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    1. Re:Samsung should buy SpaceX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all the Note 7's being returned, they could use it to fuel a rocket! Recycling is awesome!

  12. Re:Full refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They are giving the credit on top of the full refund.

  13. They are completely missing the boat. by XB-70 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Bad news is good news - but not for Samsung.

    They are passing up an amazing opportunity. They will never have this much publicity about a product again.

    Here is what they should do:

    Put ads everywhere offering a full and formal apology. And, in the same ad, stating that they are going to focus entirely on battery development to produce the safest, cleanest, longest-lasting and most quickly rechargeable batteries ever made. To do so, they will include links like Google did asking for the world's smartest and brightest engineers to join their quest and share their progress with the world.

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    1. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they pretty much already did that.

      first they did a recall, tried to fix it and when that didn't work they just axed the whole product and recalled and refunded(with extra) everyone.

      I think they messed up soc placement in regards of the thin, large, battery, since they are unable to fix it without making a new product.

    2. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >koreans
      >apologize
      costanza.jpg

    3. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 2

      they pretty much already did that.

      first they did a recall, tried to fix it and when that didn't work they just axed the whole product and recalled and refunded(with extra) everyone.

      I think they messed up soc placement in regards of the thin, large, battery, since they are unable to fix it without making a new product.

      Bullshit. This is a LOT more than just unfortunate SoC placement. If that were the case (no pun), preliminary testing would have uncovered the flaw and they would have rev-ed the PCB layout to move the SoC around to a better place.

      Unless you are suggesting (as I am) that Samsung just yanks any POS that will boot straight offa the R&D lab-bench and submits it for standards-testing and rollout...

      The recent figure of what was it, 53 models in one year, comes to mind. How much attention to detail do you think any one of those received? In that same time period, Apple likely released one or two very closely-related models. Three at the absolute max in any year.

      I don't care how many R&D engineers you have. There is a lot more to releasing a reliable product than throwing an SoC and a bunch of its friends onto a PCB and submitting it for standards-testing. But Samsung doesn't seem to think so.

      And before you bring up "Antennagate", or "Bendgate" or anything like that, I will; because those both show how, even with a company as detail-obsessed as Apple, stuff happens. But I can guarantee that it is a lot more likely to happen with a company like Samsung, that treats its products like a welfare-mother treats her children: If Child Protection takes one of my kids, I can always make another... (And yes, that is actually a good analogy).

    4. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Bad marketing is good marketing if you spend a fortune on marketing to counteract the marketing?

    5. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Not sure they should produce more noise about that. Some countries didn't even sell the N7 yet (like France).

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    6. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did Tim promise you a reach-around for posting that?

    7. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Did Tim promise you a reach-around for posting that?

      Nope. Just simple, common-sense logic and some knowledge of embedded systems design from my nearly 40 years of work experience in that field, Hater.

    8. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like a welfare-mother treats her children: If Child Protection takes one of my kids, I can always make another... (And yes, that is actually a good analogy).

      What a horrible person you are.

    9. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      like a welfare-mother treats her children: If Child Protection takes one of my kids, I can always make another... (And yes, that is actually a good analogy).

      What a horrible person you are.

      Actually not. I used to belong to a family-rights organization, and that's basically a direct quote. THAT'S the horrible person; not me.

    10. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be a noble statement and great PR, but frankly this is still not a "lets cure cancer" situation, its a "lets go to the ER" situation. The correct move at this point in the game is damage control and customer retention.

    11. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your comments just keep getting dumber and dumber , please stop

    12. Re: They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just git, loser.

    13. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      53 models in one year? What are you talking about? There are 5 Samsung smartphones.

    14. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      your comments just keep getting dumber and dumber , please stop

      You can stop reading, you know...

    15. Re: They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Just git, loser.

      That's what I like about Slashdot: Intelligent, fact-based discourse.

    16. Re:They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      53 models in one year? What are you talking about? There are 5 Samsung smartphones.

      You're right. I stand corrected. It wasn't 53 new models in one year. IT WAS FIFTY-SIX!!! And that was a short two years ago; so you'd better have that brain checked for early onset dementia.

    17. Re: They are completely missing the boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, dirty Apple troll.

    18. Re: They are completely missing the boat. by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Fuck off, dirty Apple troll.

      Following me around, eh? That's the third nearly identical post by an AC against me in a very short period of time. Methinks it's the same COWARD.

      A lot of people would find such obsessive behavior a sign of mental illness, ya know...

      Login and face the same Karmic Justice as I do, or FUCK OFF AND DIE, COWARD!!!

  14. Are there strings attached? by hsmith · · Score: 1

    Does the extra $100 cancel out your right to join legal action against them for selling you garbage?

    1. Re:Are there strings attached? by adamstew · · Score: 1

      No. You already did that with the TOS you agreed to when you bought the thing in the first place.

    2. Re:Are there strings attached? by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, but since they've completely refunded your money and all carrier fees and taxes are being dropped, you're going to have a hard time arguing in court that you suffered anything more than the (minor) inconvenience of having to send the phone back in a pre-paid, no cost box they send to you, or turning it in at your place of purchase. I'm not sure you can get pain and suffering compensation because you got butt hurt over Apple fanboi comments on your Facebook feed.

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    3. Re:Are there strings attached? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      no, which is why you should keep your phone and sue them for eleventy billion dollars for making you so scared you stayed up all night

    4. Re:Are there strings attached? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the First time we exchanged our phones, my wife and I both have one.... we were taxed again like 74.00 each. We were told we would get it back in 3 days. So far we have not received a penny. That was 20 days ago. Now again we are going to have to pay taxes on a new phone. That just seems wrong. I understand when we first purchased the phone that taxes are to be paid, but to pay again during a forced exchange program with US Cellular is just stupid. Other then the fire problem they have, these phones are great. I do not want to give it up.

    5. Re:Are there strings attached? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure you can get pain and suffering compensation because you got butt hurt over Apple fanboi comments on your Facebook feed.

      That's easy to fix: immediately defriend and blacklist anyone like that. Anyone that obnoxious and annoying (like "macs4all" on here) is not your friend, and doesn't deserve any of your time or attention.

    6. Re:Are there strings attached? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It should. But since this is America someone's feelings got hurt so we must sue!

  15. Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    "In view of the infestation of intestinal parasites you received last month from our Egg-o-licious Breakfast Special, we are delighted to offer you 20% off on your next Egg-o-licious Breakfast Special.

    "In view of your lengthy and continuing treatment, we are prepared to extend this exceptional opportunity beyond the usual 90 days. You may also pass it along to an heir, if you wish."

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    1. Re:Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      More like, we found out that 100 people out of 5 million who ate our Egg-o-licious toaster pastry got sick. If you still have a box of them on your pantryshelf, we're going to send you a prepaid mailing label so you can send it back. And we're going to give you all of your money back. And the tax you paid. And give you $25 for the inconvenience. And, if you'd like to try our Sausage-o-licious or Pancake-o-licious toaster pastries, we'll give you an extra $75 off.

      I mean, it's not a free lifetime supply ofSausage-o-licious, and they're not offering you the Egg-and-Spam-o-licious toaster pastry for free next year, but that might be a bit over the top, don't you think?

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    2. Re:Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by macs4all · · Score: 1

      "In view of the infestation of intestinal parasites you received last month from our Egg-o-licious Breakfast Special, we are delighted to offer you 20% off on your next Egg-o-licious Breakfast Special.

      "In view of your lengthy and continuing treatment, we are prepared to extend this exceptional opportunity beyond the usual 90 days. You may also pass it along to an heir, if you wish."

      Egg-zactly!

    3. Re:Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by macs4all · · Score: 1

      More like, we found out that 100 people out of 5 million who ate our Egg-o-licious toaster pastry got sick.

      But they're recalling Sausage-o-licious and Pancake-o-licious, too. And I never liked the Egg-and-Spam-o-licious, because I just don't like Spam.

      So now what?

    4. Re:Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you're unaware that in the Nung language of the Tibeto-Burman tribes, "O-Licious" means "Hungry little brother who eats your guts and crawls out your ears after you die".

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    5. Re: Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasn't your touchscreen quit working yet?

      Well, in any case go away.

    6. Re: Searching for the right non-auto metaphor by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Hasn't your touchscreen quit working yet?

      Well, in any case go away.

      Nice, factual rebuttal there, bub.

      And no, it hasn't. In fact, Even though my screen is severely shattered from a 5 foot fall face down to a hard floor, to the point of being completely separated from the case, and with internal components exposed where parts of the glass have broken away leaving about a 1/2Inch square HOLE (for almost two years now!), the digitizer, display, and everything else works perfectly, so I haven't bothered to fix it.

  16. Re:Full refund plus the oops we're sorry $100 by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    You get a full refund, plus a refund of all the service charges and tax, plus a $25 credit with your carrier (if you bought it from a carrier). The $100 - $75 net, really, as you don't get the $25 we're sorry credit plus the $100, is if you want to get a new Samsung.

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  17. One HUNDRED Dollars?! by Greyfox · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shit, Samsung, one hundred dollars will barely buy a band aid in the burn ward! I needs at least FIVE hundred dollars, if you want my forgiveness!

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    1. Re:One HUNDRED Dollars?! by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 2

      If you were burnt by the phone, Samsung will obviously pay more (if you negotiate through a lawyer). You can be pretty sure it will pay for more than a bandaid. This is for unburnt users, that want to upgrade their phone. Verizon waves your contract, and allows you renew your contract with a $25 credit (along with a $100 samsung credit, if you move to a samsung device). I think it is quite reasonable, even if wouldnt cover your burn ward fees, unrelated to samsung phones.

    2. Re: One HUNDRED Dollars?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One hundred dollars barely buys 10 minutes of my time. If I had a bombphone 7 I'd have probably spent over an hour setting it up and loading all the bits and bobs.

      Now they're requiring me to back it up and transfer that to another phone *and* take the time to go to the post office to ship it to them.

      They're going to need to talk more like 2000 dollars to make me whole.

      Good thing I didn't buy one.

    3. Re:One HUNDRED Dollars?! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You were burnt?

      Yeah thought not, I think they can afford to lose the 100 customers who were actually burnt by their devices

    4. Re: One HUNDRED Dollars?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One hundred dollars barely buys 10 minutes of my time.

      It'd sure be nice if your manager at Burger King felt the same way, wouldn't it?

    5. Re:One HUNDRED Dollars?! by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Oh, please! There are several phones that one could buy within that budget, and even from Samsung.

  18. Re:Decisions, decisions by macs4all · · Score: 1

    What a great bunch of options!

    Sounds like, by your own logic, there is only one that doesn't end up with you owning a phone that is either:

    Likely to be orphaned by a company going belly-up (Motorola, Blackberry).

    Likely to be orphaned by a company with the attention-span of a goldfish (Google).

    Likely to blow your dick off (your words) (Samsung).

    Likely to be a serious compromise by a company that specializes mostly in "free" phones (LG).

    Hmmm. By your own logic, who does that leave? And what is the only thing you can come up against that phone? The paranoid ramblings of some fandroids on Slashdot?

  19. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now the Apple fanbois know how the rest of us feel listening to status updates about their products.

  20. Re:Decisions, decisions by macs4all · · Score: 1

    Motorola is owned by Lenovo.

    I don't know that they are doing so well, and Motorola sounds like an easy thing for them to divest themselves of when it becomes (even more) of a money-sink.

  21. Re:Full refund by macs4all · · Score: 2

    There shouldn't be coercion involved to get you to buy another of their devices.

    They are just scared to death that people will "defect" to the iPhone. Because if they do, they will never look back.

    Face it. Samsung is already the top-end of the Android world. So if people decide on another Android device this time around, like Huawei, they'll likely be back to Samsung when they realize that the other brand is shit.

    But if most people switch from Samsung to Apple, they will never buy another Android phone again.

    That's not trolling or flamebait (although I am SURE it will be modded as such), that's market research.

  22. Re:Decisions, decisions by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    You somehow managed to forget, "Certain to be told exactly how you may or may not use their device (Apple)".

    You're welcome!

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  23. Re:Is this a deal? by Kjella · · Score: 1

    I think you're misunderstanding this. You already get a full refund no matter what you do, but if you get a different Samsung device, Samsung will give you $100 (well actually $75 since they were already offering $25 previously) credit. It's a smart move because as much as $100 costs for the ~2 million Note 7 customers out there, they stand to lose a lot more if people start avoiding their brand due to this. Doing right by your customers is an important part of retaining them.

    I can understand making one fuck-up, doesn't matter if you're NASA occasionally a bug slips by. But when the problem is known and they can't even fix it right so the replacements start catching fire I'm thinking burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me. They obviously have some really bad QA problems to work out and I wouldn't buy another even if they offered me $100 off. It wouldn't be a permanent shitlist or anything, but I'd rather someone else be the guinea pig. If I was in the market for a new phone I certainly wouldn't consider a Samsung now. I think they're way past "doing right" and in "emergency damage control" mode trying to avoid a total meltdown.

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  24. Re:Decisions, decisions by macs4all · · Score: 0

    You somehow managed to forget, "Certain to be told exactly how you may or may not use their device (Apple)".

    You're welcome!

    I didn't "Manage to forget". What you suggest is simply not true.

    ANYONE is completely free to build ANYTHING in iOS FOR THEMSELF. No "App Store" Rules. No "Approval" Process. No Licensing. Period. Just whip yourself up some Swift, ObjC, Javascript, or whatever code, and VOILA! That has ALWAYS been the case, BTW.

    Oh, you say you can't code? Well, sucks to be you. Because if that's the case, you will ALWAYS be beholden to SOMEONE who decides what you can, and cannot, do with your device. No matter what platform.

    And besides, any ad-hoc group of people who want to exchange "private" Apps can do so (what fandroids refer to as "Sideloading"). Been available for a few YEARS now. Completely "Legal" according to Apple. In fact, they are the ones that enabled the ability to do so. Do try to keep up. Again: No App Store. No Approval Process. No Rules. No License Fee. The fact that most people in the U.S. don't take advantage of such FREEDOM says to me that there is actually only a VERY small percentage of users that need/want to do that.

    But as you can see, the ability that you alluded to not existing, does in fact exist, and with no jailbreaks required. In fact, there is also a tool called "Cydia Impactor" that alludes to do this "Sideloading" without Jailbreaking, and without requiring XCode.

    So, STFU.

  25. Re:Is this a deal? by amias · · Score: 1

    This really doesn't seem like a QA problem to me (a professional QA) , it seems more like a pushy boss problem.

    If it were a QA failure you could expect other related defects as they tend to cluster , this is because very few functions are totally isolated so if you have defect in a function its likely to effect others. In this instance i would expect lots of charge failures or rapidly depleting batteries in devices that had less serious variants of this defect.

    Where you have a single component over specced and rushed to market thats something a QA is going to flag , but they can't fix it , the person receiving that flag was told about this and decided to sign it off as acceptable risk and lots of people got burnt, some more literally that others.

    QA is only as good as the management lets it be

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  26. Idea for the old phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Fusion research.

    2) Black ops phones for Israel.

    3) Donate to The National Ignition facility.

  27. Samsung should talk to Amazon about buying... by fuzzyf · · Score: 1

    Samsung should talk to Amazon about buying the Fire brand :)

  28. Uhh.... by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Make it £15M (standard health insurance when traveling) and you've got a deal.

  29. Re:Full refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Almost everyone that switches from Android to an iPhone is gonna be extremely disappointed with the poor quality of the iPhone hardware, OS, and apps! Oh, and having to pay extra to use standard headphones or ear buds, and not being able to listen to anything with headphones or earbuds while charging! (Cr)apple products are vastly overpriced junk! Somehow (Crapple has convinced iDiots that owning iCrap makes you cool. Its not what you own that makes you cool, but who you are! Owning iCrap only makes you look stupid to the rest of us!

  30. Re:Is this a deal? by cjjjer · · Score: 1

    They are basically bribing people to stay loyal and not jump ship. People who purchased the device will get a full refund plus the $100 to stay with a samsung device.

  31. Re:Decisions, decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or most likely to get touch disease (apple)

  32. Seems to be a good market decision to me by fbobraga · · Score: 1

    This can mitigate the damage caused to the image of the company (or even reverse it, and use the "free ADs" :P)

  33. The real question... by fbobraga · · Score: 1

    ... will it blend?

  34. Re: Is this a deal? by thundercattt · · Score: 1

    If my phone exploded I'd be jumping ship. Hell, I owned 2 Samsung phones in the past that the mobo went in each device on average every 4 mths. Warranty covered sure, but poorly built so I jumped ship. Long live Nexus

  35. Re: Decisions, decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just get out of this thread with your off topic Apple preaching.

    We all know how much you love Apple. It doesn't pertain to this discussion. Go away.

  36. Re: Full refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leave the thread, preacher man. You have nothing relevant to add. Go fling shit out of your cage in another thread.

  37. Re:Decisions, decisions by Anonymous+Coward+912 · · Score: 1

    For a lot of people the Apple way of doing things is what they like. Maybe the Apple people can just like Apple products and the non-Apple people can like whatever they want and all of us can get on with important things in life. That people keep arguing a preference is strange. Different people are different. Get over it. :)

  38. Even with a $100 credit the Galaxy isnt worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I buy a phone I buy the top end model so I can get a solid 3 years out of it and at this point the Galaxy S7/S7 Edge would last me just 2 year since its a year out of date relative to the Pixel. It would need be 2/3 the price of a Pixel to be worth it -- that's $200 cheaper than it is now, and not $100. The Pixel phone has a better processor (Snapdragon 821 v 820) and a newer Android version but Samsung has the temerity to still ask Pixel prices for a dated phone! No thanks.

    Even with the $100 credit it just isn't worth the price because you are buying a phone with 2 years of life in it over a phone with 3 years of life. The Samsung should be $200 cheaper than the Pixel but with this credit its only $100 cheaper.

  39. Re:Is this a deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So its not a "QA" problem it is just a problem with the QA department. Got it.

  40. Doing right by customers by bangular · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doing right by your customers is an important part of retaining them.

    I am amazed how Samsung has responded to this. Think about all the recalls (and should-have-been recalls) of the past 30 years. They could have responded

    It has come to our attention that a small minority of Note 7 phones (less than 0.001%) have resulted in smoking and short durations of flames when improperly charged. We would like to remind you to always use Samsung brand phone chargers plugged into an electrical socket that meets state and local building codes.

    I can't think of a single company whose first response wouldn't have been a denial, followed by months of denials, federal investigations, and then a small fine. Most auto manufacturers have faced deadly design choices and it's not until the government twists their arm do they act.

    1. Re:Doing right by customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I honestly can't tell how much of this post is sarcasm.

  41. Re:Full refund by macs4all · · Score: 0

    Almost everyone that switches from Android to an iPhone is gonna be extremely disappointed with the poor quality of the iPhone hardware, OS, and apps! Oh, and having to pay extra to use standard headphones or ear buds, and not being able to listen to anything with headphones or earbuds while charging! (Cr)apple products are vastly overpriced junk! Somehow (Crapple has convinced iDiots that owning iCrap makes you cool. Its not what you own that makes you cool, but who you are! Owning iCrap only makes you look stupid to the rest of us!

    You AC Apple Haters are all alike. If you had an argument that was supportable by facts, you would just go ahead and make it. You wouldn't have to resort to juvenile devices such as "Crapple" and "iDiots" in a vain attempt to get whatever point you think you have, across.

    Poor quality hardware? iPhones have the fastest processors. Period.

    iPhones have the safest App Source. Or do enjoy the Android Exploit du Jour?

    The iPhone without a 3.5mm Jack COMES WITH a FREE adapter. No need to "pay extra" to use "standard" (analog) headphones/earbuds.

    For the iPhone 7, Several dual-port adapter/cables are available for as little as $11, for those who feel the need to listen to music CONTINUOUSLY for more than the 40 hours (60 for the 7 Plus) that it can play music on batteries.

    The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 actually costs MORE than an equivalent storage iPhone 7 PLUS.

    Who is "The rest of us", since likely hundreds-of-thousands of Slashdotters actually OWN (and even enjoy!) one of more Apple products?

    Now that, my boy, is how you make an argument. With FACTS. Must I post LINKS to all of those points? Because, unlike you, I CAN.

  42. Re:Decisions, decisions by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    I don't have this problem, and I'm very, very happy with my phone selection. I have a Samsung Galaxy S5. It's waterproof, it has an easily-removable battery, it has an SDcard slot, it has a gorgeous AMOLED screen, it's still getting updates, and on top of that it's super cheap since you can get them on Ebay now for $150-200 (brand-new ones are selling for just over $200 last time I checked). I'm really not sure why I'd want something newer and fancier, at least for the foreseeable future. Why should I care about even higher resolution than what I have now (which is already extremely high)? I doubt I'd be able to tell the difference, plus I don't watch movies on this thing. Why do I need more processing power? It's already extremely responsive.

    AFAIC, phones have really plateaued, much like computers did about 4-5 years ago: upgrading to the newest model really doesn't get you anything all that worthwhile, because the older models are already "good enough". There just isn't a good reason to get a brand-new phone any more.

    Personally, I'm really curious what the problem with these batteries is anyway. I can buy all kinds of cheap replacement batteries for phones in the S4-S5 generation off Ebay, many of them non-OEM, and these don't have a lot of problems exploding. If you can buy cheap aftermarket batteries from China that don't catch fire and explode, then what is Samsung doing wrong with their OEM Note7 batteries?

  43. Re: Decisions, decisions by macs4all · · Score: 1

    Just get out of this thread with your off topic Apple preaching.

    We all know how much you love Apple. It doesn't pertain to this discussion. Go away.

    Awwww. Poor widdle AC can dish it out but you can't take it; ESPECIALLY when PROVEN WRONG, eh?

  44. Re: Full refund by macs4all · · Score: 1

    Leave the thread, preacher man. You have nothing relevant to add. Go fling shit out of your cage in another thread.

    Leave the thread, preacher man. You have nothing relevant to add. Go fling shit out of your cage in another thread.

    So sez the COWARD. Log in and fight Like a man, COWARD, or SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

  45. Re:Is this a deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    and I wouldn't buy another even if they offered me $100 of

    Given they have 3 other flagship devices which have shown zero problems even though they are also freshly released and go through the same QA process, and the fact that they have shipped 243million devices this year of which less than 1% encompassing a single identifiable model had an issue, how did you reach your conclusion?

  46. Re:Full refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    apple is an embarrassment to the tech industry; all the "FACTS" in the world wont make apple the kind of company some people want to support. . And thats a real fact.

  47. Re:Is this a deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you read the post you responded to?

  48. Re:Full refund by macs4all · · Score: 1

    apple is an embarrassment to the tech industry; all the "FACTS" in the world wont make apple the kind of company some people want to support. . And thats a real fact.

    Thing is, my FACTS Don't need to be enclosed in quotation marks. But yours do.

  49. Re:Decisions, decisions by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Or you could go Microsoft, and just stick w/ it. Unless you happen to be w/ Sprint or Verizon. Or you could go Sony, if it had to be an Android

  50. Re: Is this a deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long live Nexus

    Too late, the Nexus line has been eliminated and replaced with the Pixel line. Pixel is more akin to other manufacturers phones (locked down, skinned, etc) than to the now defunct Nexus phones.

  51. Re: Decisions, decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat shit, Apple troll.

  52. Re: Decisions, decisions by macs4all · · Score: 1

    Eat shit, Apple troll.

    Can't stand it when one of your favorite Hater memes is demonstrably proven completely false, can you?

  53. Re:Full refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol, you are a real hypocrite

  54. Re:Full refund by macs4all · · Score: 1

    lol, you are a real hypocrite

    I don't think that word means what you think it means.