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1 In 2 Samsung Galaxy Note 7 Owners To Switch To iPhone 7, Says Analyst (softpedia.com)
Branding Brand recently conducted a post-recall study asking Samsung Galaxy Note 7 users which smartphones they would consider upgrading to. While 40 percent of them said they are ready to jump ship to a different manufacturer, 30 percent of respondents said they are likely going to be switching to the iPhone. However, according to one analyst, that number could be even higher. Softpedia reports: KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors that approximately 50 percent of those who ordered a Note 7 are now very likely to go for an iPhone 7, as customer trust is collapsing in the Samsung ecosystem and all these buyers are no longer planning to stick with phones manufactured by the South Korean firm. Between 5 to 7 million Note 7 orders are likely to transfer to Apple, the analyst says, and the iPhone 7 Plus is expected to be the main model benefitting from this transition. Other Android phone manufacturers, including Huawei, are also likely to benefit from Samsung's fiasco, and Google itself could also record an increase in Pixel sales following the Note 7 demise. But Apple will certainly take the lion's share here, mostly thanks to the iPhone 7 Plus currently being positioned as a direct rival to the Note 7.
the pixel is the obvious replacement here. swapping ecosystems because of a bad phone??? doesn't make sense
Glad to see people coming to their senses and finally choosing a superior platform.
I make up 87% of the stats I quote.
So people who picked the Galaxy Note 7 over the Galaxy 7, would go for the much smaller iPhone7 ?
Puteulanus fenestra mortis
There is such a thing called "ecosystem lockdown" or however you want to call it.
Be it from getting used to where stuff is, how UX works or whether you paid for shit (apps, games, etc).
Also there's a big difference between what people say will do and what they will actually do.
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
Your new Hyundai sedan might randomly explode, so after you return it you are likely to buy a Harley motorcycle instead???
Not related: I used to buy most things samsung until about 1-2 years ago (2 monitors, phones, AC, Plasma Smart TV, home theater, external USB drives etc), but after their support treated me badly on the Smart TV and my Galaxy phone stopped getting updates relatively soon (with the last one being subpar), I vowed to never buy Samsung again - for phones I switched to Xiaomi...
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. . . .there are, or WERE three choices: the Galaxy Note 7, the iPhone 7, and the Pixel.
With the Samsung, pulled, that leaves 2 remaining choices. A 50-50 split is pretty much expected, all things being equal. But, as noted elsewhere, at least with the Pixel, you're still in the Android ecosystem. . .
While Ming-Chi Kuo has a very good track record over the years on most things Apple, I'm not sure that gives him any inside track on predicting the behavior of Samsung customers when presented with an unprecedented situation. Unless he has sales channel data supporting this, its just a more informed estimate.
Until people actually buy their replacements, and we get sales data somehow to reflect this, we are still in the land of speculation, however well intentioned.
And the numbers may well be different for behavior after the first and second recalls (yeah, who knew we needed those sort of terms).
Hopefully someone on the Apple call next week will ask for some data from Apple about this in the context of sales in the current quarter.
Until Apple says something backed by actual data, or someone manages a survey of behavior (Verizon/ATT/etc) does, its all just guesses.
Switching from Galaxy Note 7 to an Amazon Fire Phone... *ba-dum-tshh*
... I'll see myself out ...
The S7 Edge is very similar to the Note 7. The main difference is the pen. The iPhone do not have a pen.
Seems more likely the people will switch to the S7 Edge. The Pixel XL is another likely candidate since at least it's running the same OS.
is so huge, detrimental to Samsung's reputation, and beneficial to the main American competitor, that it this point it's clear it must have been in some part manufactured. Remember that there have been many products with batteries that have failed like this, and in much larger quantities than 100 out of ~2.5M, but the fallout was nowhere near this.
"Never waste a good crisis" as a certain current person once said, and I think this is the minor crisis that was jumped on, inflated in the media and social sites, with the intention of this very fallout, and if you look at social sites like Reddit.com then most of the top-comments are almost like a choir, agreeing with eachother in unison that people should never buy Samsung again.
All this fallout from less than 100 smoking batteries, is indicative of some foul play.
Some of us like headphone jacks!
I honestly think that this is an opportunity for BLU to make inroads, I use an unlocked and rooted BLU Phone, and I like the Vanilla AOSP feel of the units, the fact the units have a Removable battery, Two SIM card slots, and an SD Card. They are cheaper, and work well with third party online applications like OwnCloud, and eGroupware.
However many retail locations are discontinuing them. Cyanogen Mod only supports certain models of them. I've seen some Youtubers praise these phones as being close to Parity with some of LG or Samsung's Offerings.
The big selling point for the Note for me was the stylus. Does the iPhone even have a stylus? I think what this survey proves is that people just mindlessly go for the biggest newest shiniest thing.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
I think anyone who chooses to switch from the Samsung Galaxy Note to any other brand of phone _solely_ due to the recent battery issue is being rather shortsighted. Samsung just had their noses rubbed in this - quite badly in fact. Starting with the Note 8, I would expect the Samsung to be the LAST phone manufacturer to be troubled with defective batteries. This is one design flaw they are going to want to avoid forevermore.
While their competitors may be gleefully reaping the rewards of this, who is to say that the same or similar incident won't happen to another manufacturer like LG, Google, or even (gasp) Apple? Do we even _really_ know why this happened? Sure, there was a specific plant who took the blame, but that only assigns a location. Could it be this is a factor of the arms race within the phone industry? Perhaps Samsung only hit this issue first? Even if the other manufacturers don't have this happen to their next product versions, you can bet they'll now be on the lookout for it...
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"50 percent of Note 7 owners likely to switch to iPhone"... ... hoe likely? like 50% chances?
*sigh*
There's a 50/50 chance, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.
"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert"
In other news. Paid Analyst makes up numbers to help improve Apple's stock and further drop the price on Samsung stock........
While 40 percent of them said they are ready to jump ship to a different manufacturer, 30 percent of respondents said they are likely going to be switching to the iPhone.
Since when is 30 in 100 equal to 1 in 2, as the headline suggests? In addition to their other shortcomings, are /. editors like BeauHD incapable of using a calculator, if their math skills are so abysmal?
Not just that, if they were in the market for an iPhone, they'd have bought that in the first place. And I daresay the iPhone would be more expensive than the note.
From the aritcle:
"A study that was conducted recently by Branding Brand revealed that 40 percent of Samsung customers who ordered a Note 7 are ready to jump ship to a different manufacturer, with 30 percent of respondents explaining that the iPhone is very likely to be their next destination. Only 8 percent of them picked the Google Pixel, but what's good for the ecosystem is that 62 percent of the users said they wanted to stick with Android."
KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors that approximately 50 percent of those who ordered a Note 7 are now very likely to go for an iPhone 7,
Just keep reading. No, I'm not demanding you actually read TFA either - nobody does that.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Samsung could clearly and verifiably show what the real issue is with the Note 7, which they have not done yet. And then show that it was completely solved and safe in the Note 8.
Plus ship the Note 8 with a fully unlocked Bootloader, so that we can easily install crapware-free ROM's such as CyanogenMod.
There are a lot of good things to like about the Samsung Galaxy Note series, including phablet size, stylus, and display.
The amazon "fire" phone seems apropos.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
The answer is both. Some people are full of shit, and lots of those people are called "Analysts."
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I used to switch between iPhones and android every time I switched phones, and it had zero to do with specific models. I just got annoyed enough at whatever mobile OS I was using to switch. Now I'm sticking with Android. Both OSes annoy me, but at least with Android I can avoid the obnoxious Apple aesthetic.
Not that I ever used it, but my TV annoyed me with a notification this evening about the Samsung Link service ending on November 1. The timing isn't exactly great for a company that needs to instill confidence in its ecosystem in the wake of its flagship smartphone becoming a complete disaster.
If they used a Note instead of cheaper Android phones, then they wanted the stylus and multi-pane Note features. iPhone7 doesn't offer those. They'll switch to Note 6, or one of the other stylus Android phones from other manufacturers.
"KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors..."
So it's just one mans opinion and he didn't think it through.
Well, "KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo" has a better track record than "Anonymous Coward". And maybe the reason why people buy phones aren't what Android advocates claim they are after all.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
There are still Note 7 users?
Table-ized A.I.
Right, so why would they switch to a more expensive phone, when within the Android family, there are so many alternatives, even outside Samsung. Like Google, Sony, LG, et al
Scratch that, didn't see the number as 850... My bad
If you what something that's 95% of a Note 7, you're going to get a S7 Edge. Same great camera, same IP68, nearly the same UX (and nearly identical after Nougat), same edge functionality, uSD storage, same great battery life, and works with the 2-3 bonus gifts you got (Active watch, uSD card, Gear VR).
If you are pissed as Samsung and don't want to "reward them," you'll be getting either a Pixel or an LG V20. Both are fresh off the line (not some "old, tired" model from 6 months ago, like the S7E), come with cool gifts, and promise to be great phones.
If you were an iPhone user the switched to the Note 7, you're probably going to go back to iOS, because ain't nobody got time of dis sheit [exploding Android phones] and everybody you told you were switching has ribbed you endlessly about your poor judgement. Plus, the baristas have promised that they'll let you back in to get your PSL as long as you switch back.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
If they used a Note instead of cheaper Android phones, then they wanted the stylus and multi-pane Note features. iPhone7 doesn't offer those. They'll switch to Note 6, or one of the other stylus Android phones from other manufacturers.
"KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors..."
So it's just one mans opinion and he didn't think it through.
Stylus, no; but multi-pane? iOS 10 has multi-pane (split-screen), but only for the iPad. Apple surmises (probably after doing some experimenting), that multiple windows on a small display is pretty silly (which it is), when you can just Swipe to switch Applications.
Now, although it appears that the iPhone 7 does not support the Apple Pencil, an off-hand remark by Tim Cook seems to indicate that Apple is at least considering having Pencil support in either the iPhone 7 or an upcoming model.
So what Mr. Cook meant by "courage" was it would take courage for brand loyal consumers to switch from Androids to an inferior Apple product.
What is "inferior", pray tell, about the iPhone 7? Answer carefully, as I can most likely logically and factually refute any of your reasoning.
As Brexit showed us, Westerners have grown very comfortable (and now even enjoy in Durdenesque way) lying to pollsters.
This is why the specter of Trump still worries me; he's not behind enough.
I once chastised my wife, "how can you not be curious how the TV works?" and she replied "how can you not be curious how your circulatory system works?". And she was right.
Do you think people who design bridges sit around complaining that "all these idiots driving over our bridges and they know nothing of the nuanced load bearing tradeoffs between suspension bridges and cable stayed--they just want to get to the other side". No, they don't, but for some reason we criticize people who don't care about the difference between an iPhone and an Android.
is the same target-audience - it cam be viewed from another perspective: Apple only is getting 50% of the market of the angry user-base of Note 7 (it seems a pretty bad picture for Apple...)
So what Mr. Cook meant by "courage" was it would take courage for brand loyal consumers to switch from Androids to an inferior Apple product.
What is "inferior", pray tell, about the iPhone 7? Answer carefully, as I can most likely logically and factually refute any of your reasoning.
It's not as white as your teeth.
So what Mr. Cook meant by "courage" was it would take courage for brand loyal consumers to switch from Androids to an inferior Apple product.
What is "inferior", pray tell, about the iPhone 7? Answer carefully, as I can most likely logically and factually refute any of your reasoning.
It's not as white as your teeth.
Actually, I would venture that the white model is quite a bit whiter than my teeth, LOL!
After carefully analysis I found that 4 out 2 analysts misrepresent their facts correctly.
Not just that, if they were in the market for an iPhone, they'd have bought that in the first place. And I daresay the iPhone would be more expensive than the note.
Well, Bloomberg says that even Samsung believed they were direct competitors, because they supposedly rushed the Note 7 to market to catch buyers disappointed with the "boring" iPhone 7. So why shouldn't that work in the opposite direction? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-18/samsung-crisis-began-in-rush-to-capitalize-on-uninspiring-iphone
Oh, and the Note 7 only cost $20 less than an unlocked iPhone 7 Plus - but has half the on-board storage.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Samsung believing that doesn't make it true. iPhones are not competitors to Galaxies any more than Macs are competitors to PCs
This percentage of switch to iphone is only in the US.
Which is a small market now.
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Samsung believing that doesn't make it true. iPhones are not competitors to Galaxies any more than Macs are competitors to PCs
You are of course right - Samsung is just a bunch of know-nothings. And you have to work for them.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.