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Samsung Galaxy S8 Screen-To-Body Ratio Could Surpass 90%, Near Bezel-Less Design (hothardware.com)
MojoKid writes: There aren't many phones on the market currently that can boast an edge-to-edge display with minimal or no bezel on top and bottom, save for perhaps Xiaomi's recently unveiled Mi MIX. However, word on the web is that the field will expand by at least one more next year, and specifically with Samsung's Galaxy S8. This runs contrary to a previous rumor that the Galaxy S8 might only come with a curved edge display. That would be surprising since Samsung needs to sell as many Galaxy S8 phones as possible after the Galaxy Note 7 debacle. Only offering a curved edge model could be counterproductive to that goal, though offering an edge-to-edge display could be the spark Samsung needs. Park Won-sang, a principal engineer at Samsung Display noted the division would roll out a full-screen smartphone display with a "display area ratio [that] reaches more than 90 percent next year," during the iMiD 2016 display exhibition in Seoul last week. The engineer added that Samsung may even extend the display area ratio to 99 percent in the years ahead, which would mean virtually the entire front of the phone would be the screen. In case you're wondering, most of today's smartphones utilize a display area to bezel ratio of around 80 percent.
Is it wrong that I read "screen to body count ration" ?
Can we get a high end tablet please? 12 inch - 15 inch, Android, with a stylus, a super fast processor and as many pixels as you can shove in it??
Really, now we officially have multi-windows, you can do it and make it work with all existing apps (none of that 'only for enabled apps' crap that Google are doing). Fix Google's shortcomings, particularly the idea that the person should rotate the screen to suit the app, instead of the app rotating to fit the user. With multi windows now you can make portrait windows sized to suit phone apps. So when you start phone apps, they don't force the tablet to be a 15 inch portrait fake phone, it can run multi phone apps side by side.
Also Google Android team are making multi-windows that split up full screen, which is probably the correct thing. Whereas Chrome OS/Android team are making desktop windows more suited to a desktop PC with mouse, complete with movable bars, resize zones and so on, using unfriendly drag operations from WIMP days.
Samsung can do it right, they don't have a CEO who keep trying to shove his Chrome crap into everything, so aren't stuck with the need to slap ChromeOS style windows around everything. They can official do a proper multi window Android on a tablet now.
Likewise, Google won't put in flash cards, because they're Cloud dicks, you can.
Likewise Google won't make it work with local network printers, only cloudy printers, again because they're cloud dicks, but you can fix that.
Likewise, why close every app, and shut every background service (as if the tablet is a small battery phone), like Google do. It's f*ing annoying, why can't I pin an app to stay loaded!?
Windows tablets are a meat market to run legacy apps, Android tablets are an untapped opportunity at the high end. Google are clueless, Samsung could get a clue.
I do like the current trend of getting more and more display real-estate on the same phone, I really do. Plus getting the buttons outside the screen, Samsung is on the right track here.
BUT the fact that there is so little give means you can break your 600$/EUR phone just with a drop from the nightstand. Plus it's harder to hold it properly without touching the screen. I haven't had a phone with a case since pre-iPhone era, when Windows Mobile PDAs with large displays would crack even without while looking at them. It was all fine with 2010-2015 phones, stairs or concrete drops would just leave some small marks but nothing special. Now I've seen with the new S6/S67s so many cracked displays AND/or backs (glass back, really?!) that I had to think better and go back to using a case. And that defeats the whole purpose.
Smartphones are getting better and better. Thin enough to cut through any pockets (at the price of awful battery life but something has got to give) and now we get great area for animated advertising (at the price of shattering whenever you drop it, but since you'll get a lithium fire anyway, who cares?). Who wanted to call people anyway? They are annoying.
The history of watches shows that the main income for watchmakers at the turn of the 20th century was turning of broken balance shaft replacements for dropped pocket watches. Then shock proof mounts came about.
And now we are starting all over with smartphones.
Therefore, I boughthttps://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/11/02/2135240/samsung-galaxy-s8-screen-to-body-ratio-could-surpass-90-near-bezel-less-design# an LG G3 a few years ago precisely because it was perhaps the only phone that met the above criteria at the time. After the G4, LG has lost the plot and done everything except optimise the screen-to-body ratio. My next phone will likely be a Galaxy S8, provided it does not violate no. 1 above.
THESE FOOLS do not realize that the bezel is the ONLY thing keeping these screens from completely tiling over our reality! What the human race need now are wider bezels not thinner ones. The bezel should get a little wider every year... until eventually it closes in completely and we are all standing in the sunlight of a new day, looking around us at the simple, sublime reality of existence. There is hope even for you my friend. If they make bezels thinner just put electrical tape around the edges.
In Soviet Russia... the phone swipes to unlock YOU.
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They're like guidelines and I don't care if they smudge compared to the screen itself.
Look, I think it's cool to see what can be done with modern technology but it feels to me like it has been possibly a decade since the last time they came out with something that actually made my life easier and was fun to use.
I realise that what I'd love to have in a mobile comunication device is probably not something for mainstream but it does get on my nerves how many compromises I have to make in my daily usage for devices costing closer to 1000$ than 500$.
Goes the weasels!
I relish the pickle Sammy is dishing up!
I want to see more than 100% screen.
I normally hold a phone when I'm using it, I never lay it down on a table and poke at it. When holding the phone, you need a bevel around it else you'll make a ton of accidental input events along the edges. I highly doubt these phones will have a pop-out holding stick attached to the back of them so edge-to-edge screens are going to be usability nightmares.
And the article headline is complete bullshit. An edge-to-edge screen is only nearing 50% screen to body ratio not 90%. Why do we need the full backside to be a screen too? Why have people stopped using their brains over the past two decades?
Because it sounds like screen to side ratio. Shouldn't screen to body refer to how much of the phone is screen vs. non-screen components? Or at least what % of the phone is covered by screen?
It was about time for multi-phone-screen gaming. I hate it when the bezel breaks immersion. Game of War - Fire Age will now be so much more realistic on Samsung. Can't wait!
It's not a fscking TV, it's a phone, and a bezel is a feature, not a drawback. You know, an area that allows a case, (and my fingers), to have enough overlap to actually grip the phone securely - important now that the phones are so god-damned thin they bend in a gust of wind and are already hard to hold on to. Besides, it's not like anyone is making a video wall out of phones. Enough already!
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The best feature to come out of the trend for ever bigger screens will be the death of the selfie. With nowhere left to put a front facing camera, people will have to start taking photos of things other than themselves again.
Throwing is a very intentional act. How do you "accidentally" do that?
The batteries will probably still explode and the phone will probably still run an outdated version of Android. Using one of those phones will almost certainly be hazardous to your privacy, security, and your health. Who cares about garbage Android phones? It's Linux, and Linux is shit.
Don't be so pessimistic. At least you'll literally be getting lots of bang for your buck.
Use the entire screen for display, but make sure any input zones stop before the edge, like if a bezel existed.
It's not a fscking TV, it's a phone, and a bezel is a feature, not a drawback.
It's not a feature - it's a design compromise. The original purpose of a bezel has nothing to do with gripping a device. Bezels exist to hold the face of the device in place. The fact that it can help in some cases with gripping the phone securely without accidentally triggering the touch screen is a side benefit that has been actively exploited. Nobody actually wants the bezel but it turned out to have some utility due to other design decisions. It's perfectly possible to make a phone with basically zero bezel which still can be gripped securely - it would just look different than what we are used to.
With a girl, you can hold her by the boobs.
This is Slashdot, you'll find there's still no essential difference there.
Mostly the same, but not exactly the same. Superficially, a guy's ass is more likely to be hairy (that can be fixed, of course) and thus have dingleberries. In my experience, a lot of men and women both have dirty asses. (for some reason, women think they have a clean ass even when they don't). The biggest difference is that a man (and a man's ass) has a prostate and women don't. That absolutely affects how ass fucking feels, for both the top and the bottom! Some people have a strong preference one way or the other. Some people prefer pickles, some people prefer cucumbers! I like them both. But I can tell if there's a prostate or not.
For your first time, it's best if you fuck an experienced bottom to help guide you down that dirt road of pleasure. As a practical matter, it's easier to find a horny experienced male bottom than a horny experienced female bottom.
This is Slashdot, none of your neckbeard/redneck hybrids are getting any.
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With Yasmin Pires, you can do both.
But what we all really want to know is: how well does this new screen burn?
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I don't know, but I am burning with anticipation.
I see what you did there.
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Um, so what? Seriously so frigging what? The original intent of a lot of things aren't what they're used for today.
The "so what" is that it IS a drawback in a multitude of ways. If you want to call it a feature it really is a form of misfeature. It makes the phone larger and more cumbersome, wastes space, costs money, is ugly, and it isn't even the primary purpose of a bezel. Furthermore it's not necessarily the best way to solve the actual problem of gripping the phone securely since there are other ways to solve that problem.
It appears that other people do want the bezel or you wouldn't have needed to post this.
No they want to be able to comfortably grip the phone without triggering the touch screen. Using the bezel for this is merely one way to accomplish the goal and perhaps not even the best way.
And for good reason - I somehow doubt there's much appeal to a phone that comes with an integrated selfie stick for secure gripping.
Evidently you haven't seen a lot of teenagers on vacation. Many of them may as well have welded their selfie stick to their phones. Vanity is a powerful force...
Seriously though there are plenty of ways of securely gripping a phone that do not require a bezel in the design. Some of them are actually even attractive to look at. I would also argue that the utility of a wide bezel is somewhat overrated as a means to safely grip the device.
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it's called "prejudice", "bias" or "preconception" folks :P
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You are welcome on my lawn.
I know I'm not buying a Samsung until I see the report from Underwriters Laboratory.
You are welcome on my lawn.
With a girl, you can hold her by the boobs.
Yes! Rodeo sex!
Get her in the doggie position, reach around and grab her boobs, and yell "Hey! Those are even better than your sister's!" Then try to hold on for 15 seconds...
Nearly bezel-less?
From the same place that sold me a nice frame. The blank hemp-colored canvas indicated that it was a sketch of a knife that lost its grip/handle.
So where's the knife?
That's classified information
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Honestly, at this point, I'd rather have an extra capacitive touch surface that covers the back of the phone. It would be neat to be able to issue special touch commands "through" the phone while holding it; something that lets you feel as though your fingers touching the back of the phone are somehow pushing through the phone and into the face would be really nice.
Sorry to be the bringer of bad news (see subject).
Continually making dainty phones that are nearly all glass - and which have only slick, slippery, rounded edges - helps ensure that lots of people end up replacing them.
There are lots of good deals out there right now, Samsung is having a fire sale.
You're holding it wrong ;)
I have a Note 4 at the moment, it is hard enough to hold that phone without accidentally touching the edges of the touchscreen. Between Samsung's insistence on their "edge" design, and this, there's simply no possible way to hold any of these devices anymore.
Despite my last bunch of phones all being Samsung, I've already decided my next phone won't be a Samsung, the reasons are listed below in no particular order:
- "edge" design (hard to hold on to, distorts images and videos)
- lack of removable battery (sure I don't change it often, but had I not been able to replace my $30 battery a couple months ago I would have needed a $1000 phone instead)
- lack of SD card support (though in fairness they seem to have backtracked on that one a bit)
- difficulties rooting and customizing (they've started locking things down more, and even when they don't, many root tools don't work on samsung like they do on other devices)
Not yet sure what I will get, my Note4 probably has a bunch of life left in it, but whatever I get won't likely be from Samsung.
I agree. When I do not have my S7 Edge in a case it is difficult to hand it to someone without activating something.
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I'd trade more front-of-bezel real-estate for more bezel thickness. Hopefully one would offset the other in terms of fingers toggling the touchscreen, with the bonus of the phone not being too bendy and allowing a thicker battery etc.
My M8 shows the slings and arrows of dings, drops, and bangs. I can imagine how an edge-to-edge display would be chipped and dinged similarly, and like My Nexus 7 (2013) leave me with edges that nick me. And look horrible.
And would every touch cause an action ? Can I have SOMETHING to hold without opening YouTube? Please?
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
...I already can't say "check out this picture" on my phone without him wanting to hold the phone (so he can see it), which invariably means he grabs it with a thumb somewhere on the face, thus closing/changing/fsking up whatever I'm trying to show him.
I think he thinks he's losing his mind, half the time I try to show him something the screen ends up blank.
-Styopa
and how long to burn time?
it's called "prejudice", "bias" or "preconception" folks :P
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's called "trolling".
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I don't need thinner laptops that require more dongles, and I don't need thinner phone bezels that provide no way to pick up the phone without touching the screen and activating something.
Sorry, Samsung, you're late to the party again.
How are we gonna carry these things around? On a U-Haul trailer? I mean, I'm a big boy - 6 feet tall, 280 pounds. So, that's a 5-foot-4-and-51/64-inch by something screen. Sounds bulky to me...
Counterpoint: excellent usability
...and I cannot lie.
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Call me when they get over 100%. Then I'll be impressed.
You see? I told you we have these types around, asking for a cell, a watch, a ring of power, then an oracle, a relic, a symbol... and it is over, thankfully.... I am planning a helmet where you see my face displayed in an outside screen and I see you through several cameras... no excuses, no more cans to the head...