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Secret Service, DHS Scramble To Secure America's Election (yahoo.com)
Secret service agents rushed Donald Trump off a stage in Nevada Saturday night, CNN reports. "A scuffle could be seen breaking out in the audience, but it was not immediately clear what happened... Secret Service and police tactical units rushed in to detain a man [who] was then rushed by a throng of police officers, Secret Service agents and SWAT officers armed with assault rifles to a side room... A law enforcement official told CNN no weapon was discovered. The GOP nominee was apparently unharmed and returned to the stage minutes later to finish his speech." Meanwhile, an anonymous reader writes:
"All but two U.S. states have accepted help from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to probe and scan voter registration and election systems for vulnerabilities, a department official told Reuters." Ohio is relying on the National Guard's cyber protection unit, while Arizona says they've held discussions with the FBI, DHS and state-level agents on cyber security. But in addition, "U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."
American officials believe Russian hacking efforts will continue through 2018, according to the Wall Street Journal. "By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official. Russia is also expected to extend their efforts toward elections in Europe.
American officials believe Russian hacking efforts will continue through 2018, according to the Wall Street Journal. "By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official. Russia is also expected to extend their efforts toward elections in Europe.
So close...
So, this would-be Dietrich Bonhoeffer turned out to be just a Republican with a sign. He has been released by the Secret Service. There was never a threat to Mr Trump.
But I did notice that when Trump minced off the stage with the Secret Service the bone spurs that kept him out of the draft didn't seem to be bothering him.
You are welcome on my lawn.
... that said "Republicans Against Trump", and then some unidentified asshole yelled "gun!" and the crowd went wild - hope they find the asshole that yelled "Fire in a crowded theater" just for the hell of it, and hang his ass.
It doesn't help that someone shouted "gun" when the protester stood up with a sign.
A Secret Service spokesperson said in a statement that an "unidentified individual" shouted "gun" in the audience, though no weapon was found after a "thorough search."
Since at least in the Netherlands (and presumably in the rest of Europe) we don't use electronic voting and we require voter ID.
The intellectuals, the technicians, the business people, even the nobility, have disentangled themselves from the and generally dampened the effects of the vote on themselves and even partake in the vote-selling for a little extra cash for that cool intellectually-pleasing bauble. Either that or engage in vote buying of their own directed at the candidate that promises them the coolest baubles. They aren't immune from wanting to pad their own accounts and believing that this is the best way to come out a little more ahead than they would previously.
I'm glad you're staying home.
You're overlooking the fact that the OP has already voted by mail-in ballot and doesn't need to go in person to vote.
I suppose if there's a therapy that can make you like skirts... https://www.youtube.com/result...
All but two U.S. states have accepted help from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security
I would much rather have someone that I trust helping than the D.H.S.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
In N.C. the feds struck down our law to require ID because it discriminated against those wanting to commit voter fraud.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
In your dreams. 538 has him at 35% probability of winning as I write this;
And that's only naively counting the electoral college. You think they are going to let Trump-the-Pussygrabber onto the highest seat in the land? Not likely. How many Republican party luminaries have already stated "country over party" and refused to back Trump? This many! This election is the perfect excuse for the electors to vote their consciences. If they need tom which is doubtful.
And then there's a disparity in the women's vote: currently standing near 50% in favor of Clinton.
There's no way Trump can win. None. You're just fooling yourself. Enjoy it while you can, because come Wednesday morning, we'll have a woman in the white house. And Washington will go on just as it always has, Republicans blocking every bit of progress they can, democrats fumbling around in a non-unified manner, and idiots like the tea partiers throwing monkey wrenches in everywhere they can, and all the while the lobbyists will be proffering handfuls of money to everyone in sigh, the president not fulfilling a plugged nickle's worth of the promises made on the campaign trail.
You come back here Wednesday, you'll see I called it exactly. If you can find this post after the load of butt-hurt moderation falls on it, lol
But in addition, "U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that this is insane?
Assange never gives out details about who his leakers are, but even he took the time to state categorically that the Podesta leakers are did not come from the Russian government.
Clearly he feels that there is some danger here for him to take this extraordinary step.
Instead of setting up a hair-trigger response shouldn't we first have an investigation, and then approach this through diplomatic channels?
Ye gods, Putin has to keep the appearance of strength in his country. What do you think he'll do if we start messing with their electrical grid?
And in other news, we have Obama encouraging illegals to vote, which would appear at first glance to be Obama committing a felony on camera.
What the fuck is happening to this country?
Learn what exactly, that fit the alt-right, black lives don't matter?
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"By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official.
"Hacking and dumping" emails is not the same as changing vote counts or forcing people to vote a certain way. The exposure of the content of emails was likely embarrassing to the Democratic Party and HRC, but it isn't election tampering.
You want to prevent all hacking? Just use paper ballots counted at the precinct level. India has a billion people and it works just fine. Our election is important enough that it's foolish to trust it to unauditable, easily hacked voting machines when the alternative of hand counting is not that hard.
I wish some time we could get competent people in government.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Massage is done. After this election stunt, even if Ecuador let's him stay, he's brought Wikileaks disrepute that the press will ignore him. Snowden had taken his mantle.
Everything you've said is completely and totally bogus.
1) "Ecuador lets him stay": Ecuador has repeatedly reaffirmed their intention to let him stay, even after cutting his internet access.
2) "Disrepute": Wikileaks recently published the DKIM proofs for the Podesta E-mails, putting the lie to any claims of tampering. For example, Donna Brazile claimed that E-mails showing her giving debate questions to Clinton were tampered, but they were vetted using Google's gmail.com DKIM signature.
3) "Massage": Learn Engrish.
4) "Stunt": He's been publishing pretty-much continuously for 10 years, and you think "stunt" describes his actions?
5) "Press will ignore": Uh... yeah. Right. You think this is what will happen?
6) "Snowden": Snowden took his mantle... without being in the news or having done anything of recent significance?
In general, everything you said is simple sock-puppetry intended to sway uninformed people. It's intellectually dishonest, and it doesn't even promote the mainstream view.
I mean, really. Absolutely *no one* in the media is making any of your claims.
I'd ask for links, but in this case I don't think that's possible.
And you have actual citations for these claims (and no, some alt-right blog is not a reference). Provide actual citations, preferably actual electoral records. Otherwise, I call bullshit.
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How many of these 'crises' are either enormously exaggerated, or manufactured out of whole cloth? After all, they are so very useful for creating jobs, justifying power and autonomy grabs by various TLA's, and distracting the masses from noticing that their basic rights are being systematically torn down and burned.
Yes, by all means, protect this election. Protect it from becoming a third-rate reality show - a freaky, depraved, but strangely irrelevant spectacle that proudly and defiantly puts the 'circus' in 'bread and circuses'. Oh, wait... it's way too late for that.
I'm starting to see the attractions of the Libertarian point of view. It's delusional and naive, to be sure - but would it produce a hell any worse that what we're currently experiencing?
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Fact check yourself.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
Douglas Adams predicted this election, and probably most others, in his HHGTG series with this: It is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. It is number 23 on the list. I don't know that number 42 on that particular list applies to this election, though.
And you have actual citations for these claims
Of course not, because they are nonsense. These bullet points are copied verbatim from a viral image that has been circulating among alt-right kooks, including my idiot brother-in-law. All of these claims have been thoroughly debunked.
that he's just concerned for my safety.
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Ugh, had to do my duty and call my mother today. So much politics, about how the country is over if hillary wins, about the websites I should visit that have *proof* she's guilty of something or other, about how Obama loves muslims and hates christians, Hillary's advisor is a muslim (oh ya, she thinks that's enough to make her a traitor). All the while she's on the verge of crying because those frauds on the internet have convinced her of these conspiracy theories. There's so much bullshit out there, any fool can claim they have proof of something or other, and then other people go and cite that as evidence.
Trump's been encouraging a climate of violence and fear at his rallies for months' now. I'm just surprised this didn't happen sooner. The real thing to come out of this that'll hurt him is how he sorta hobbled away. Sure, he's 70, and to any sane person that's to be expected. But he's been cultivating an image of virility for months now and having it undermined in the press 3 days before game day is gonna be a problem.
I forget who said it but somebody said whoever can keep the spotlight off is gonna win since neither candidate is well liked. Trump just put the spotlight on 100%.
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But thanks for outing yourself as yet another person who lacks critical thinking skills.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Your words echo Trumpsky's denials but US Intelligence service says otherwise: http://www.theverge.com/2016/1...
Yeah, you know how US Intel has been known to lie, both on purpose and also on accident? I have absolutely no reason to believe them when they say 'trust us', especially when they are talking about starting a cyberwar.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
So let me get this straight, they set up man in the middle attack servers, sent attack emails to DNC staff, intercepted emails for the election, and selectively leaked those to Julian Assange for a bit of Wikileaks innuendo attack.... to get their guy Trump into power. Yet they wouldn't hack election machines, counting machines or vote counters emails?
And you think that's "tech savvy"? And there are enough GOP and Putin astroturfers here to mod you to a +4?
That hacking DNC email, and using the intelligence in the email to get their puppet into power *ISN"T* election tampering???
If Russia was trying to put Clinton in power, you'd be screaming for the CIA to protect the election from Putin's tampering, instead you side with a foreign power simply because you think he's helping get your guy elected! Bad news he's not your guy, he's Putin's guy.
I very very very much doubt that this is the work of the russian government. Simply put, given all these emails, they would use them to better understand who is really in power, and then use them for blackmail. AFTER she became president. They wouldn't even blackmail her, but would blackmail some of the various players who wouldn't want these coming out.
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Not "trust us", US intelligence has enumerate exactly how it was done, by whom, where and when. The current hacker going by Guccifer 2.0 was pretending to be Romanian, but when faced with a translator, was found to be Russian.
That's not much.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/...
You are either a worthless piece of shit liar, or a complete fucking idiot.... or both. When you wonder what is wrong with this country... look in the mirror. Worthless piece of shit with no integrity.
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Your words echo Trumpsky's denials but US Intelligence service says otherwise:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1...
Wow, what a trustworthy source!
Remember when they kept trying to get people to believe that North Korea hacked Sony over a shitty movie? Remember when there was zero evidence of that happening or even being remotely possible? Remember when they quietly dropped it when the truth started coming out?
Some things I find disturbing:
"By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official. Russia is also expected to extend their efforts toward elections in Europe..."
Let me get this straight.
Even IF Russia was dumping Emails, and let me be clear...they are not...all of these Emails have been verified by FBI sources. Which, means, the democratic party has voters who do not care if their candidate is a treasonous criminal, the are voting for Hillary anyway.
Secondly:
"U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."
This is an act of war. Not on a goat herding nation that can't fight back. These VERY DESPERATE OLIGARCHS are trying to start a distraction from their criminal activities, and provoke a NUCLEAR POWER, that could wipe out the eastern seaboard in about 20 minutes.
No Russia is not Iraq, far from it.
These people kicked Napoleans ass, Hitlers ass while European fags cowered in their boots and some, Like the French surrenderd without even a fight in World War 2.
All of this activity by the US government is TREASON, they have no right to start a war without full authorization from Congress let alone attack another country either cyber or physically wise.
One more thing.
These Executive orders effectively has made the President a king. These have to be immediately reversed an stopped.
No individual branch of goverment has that sort of authority except congress with a majority vote of 2/3rds.
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
"make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it"
In other words, make it look exactly like it is.
Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...
No need to do anything on that front. All of Europe has been laughing about the US voting process for decades. You've got the most complicated, error-prone, untrustworthy election system I personally have ever seen or heard about. The fact that you're incapable of fixing it is the best proof that the whole system is broken beyond repair.
I'm not just talking voting machines, I also mean Gerrymandering, the fact that you vote on a working day (seriously?) or that there are hour-long queues. You are holding elections the way 3rd world countries hold their first election in history, and it's just absolutely pathetic.
What could Russia possibly do to discredit this abomination? If I were the russian general in charge, I'd tell my hackers to stay out of this, lest they accidentally fix something and make it better.
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No but think about it, all this time they were worried about Obama coming for their guns, and Orange Hitler comes along and they're ready to just hand them over. What could that possibly reveal?
By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system.
I'm going out on a limb here, but wouldn't that impression be the actual truth? How the democrats rigged against Sanders, that apparently the Democrats and their candidat got hacked, we know for ages that voting machines are not trustworthy, there is the concept of gerrymandering, and how on earth became Trump even a candidate, not speaking about that the charges against Hillary were dropped.
Not sure whom to attribute those hacks, but isn't it actually a good thing, that this knowledge is now spread between the voters so they can make a more informed decision? Isn't it better to know what is going on than to life in fluffy unicorn land?
All the governments are always saying: No need to fear, if you have nothing to hide. Well...
You might want to check the Project Veritas video--we have people like Zulema Rodriguez to thank for those protests turning violent. And we can fact check that all the way back to her illegal actions at the AZ protest, lying to cops, and being on the Democratic payroll thanks to the FEC site. So you might be inclined to believe the people you don't like are violent, but we have videos that can be independently corroborated, as well as discussions in the Podesta email dump to tie it all together.
And there was also this guy who attempted to steal a gun: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/...
So we can hardly rule out any sort of dirty tricks here, especially with Hillary's poll numbers taking a dive lately.
There were also fake pedophile smears against Julian (Todd & Claire) as well as Trump (Epstein has way more ties to Bill, and Podesta has a ton of pedo friends apparently, including the former Republican speaker/convicted child molester so one really wonders what *they* have in common...) with that lawsuit now being voluntarily dismissed after being debunked even by Jezebel, Popehat and many other sources.
You might want to check the Project Veritas video
James O'Keefe's is famous precisely for making videos dishonestly edited and presented to create fake scandals.
I'll watch his video on a scandal after I finish reviewing Bernie Madoff's report on my mutual funds.
And there was also this guy who attempted to steal a gun: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/...
And a mentally ill guy from Britain has to do with what?
There were also fake pedophile smears against Julian (Todd & Claire) as well as Trump (Epstein has way more ties to Bill, and Podesta has a ton of pedo friends apparently, including the former Republican speaker/convicted child molester so one really wonders what *they* have in common...) with that lawsuit now being voluntarily dismissed after being debunked even by Jezebel, Popehat and many other sources.
Well we don't actually know the accusations against Trump were fake, they were damn sketchy but that doesn't mean they were fake.
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"U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."
Only if the Russians are dumb enough to connect their SCADA systems directly to the Internet and run them on Microsoft Windows.
> James O'Keefe's is famous precisely for making videos dishonestly edited and presented to create fake scandals.
The video can be corroborated by a wealth of independent evidence as I discussed here: https://slashdot.org/firehose....
A few more bits of corroboration came out after that, but so much came out that I never got it linked up. I would also like to mention that the emails can be validated by DKIM, so nobody has been altering them.
> And a mentally ill guy from Britain has to do with what?
He attempted to steal a gun to shoot Trump. Just saying this isn't the first assassination scare. I think it's the 4th?
> Well we don't actually know the accusations against Trump were fake, they were damn sketchy but that doesn't mean they were fake.
You'd get better odds on a Royal Flush. An anonymous victim with anonymous witnesses for something that allegedly happened decades ago and involving a well-known pedophile (Epstein) where Bill Clinton took 20+ trips on his "Lolita Express" with several of those trips having no SS agents present. Yeah, lots of people were on that guy's plane but with Podesta being into that creepy as hell #spiritcooking crap, you have to kind of wonder.
P.S. here's a good summary of most of the Podesta email findings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
First, I'm trying to understand why people think ANY level of fraud is ok.
Second, The President of the United States is on YouTube telling ILLEGAL aliens not to be scared to vote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCLO0WBvhF8
You'd get better odds on a Royal Flush. An anonymous victim with anonymous witnesses for something that allegedly happened decades ago and involving a well-known pedophile (Epstein) where Bill Clinton took 20+ trips on his "Lolita Express"
If you had confidence that Trump didn't fuck a child you wouldn't be mentioning Bill Clinton at all. That's handwaving bullshit. Pay no attention to the man we're actually talking about right now!
If you want an agreement that Bill Clinton is a squashed shit, here it is. But try to stay on topic, son.
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US intelligence has enumerate exactly how it was done, by whom, where and when.
So did Germany when a radio station on the border of Poland was attacked in 1939. It turned out to be staged by the Germans themselves, but the lie was good enough to justify the invasion of Poland.
"By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it..."
US voting system untrustworthy? Surely not....
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I think he's saying Bill's pedo ties provide motive for the left to falsely accuse Trump. That's rule #1 of the left: always accuse your opponent of whatever you're doing.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
This election is a choice between the Plague and Cholera. Hillary will be a bit better short-term, but she will continue and cement the overall downwards-trend. Trump would be without doubt a catastrophe, but this may be a case of rather an end in tears than tears without end. The fact of the matter is that if these two are the best the US political landscape has to offer and who the voters are willing to vote for, then the country is already in a late phase of the decline and essentially doomed.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Trump letting people know that they can LEGALLY change an early vote is not wrong. It's legal. Not only that, but it's worth nothing to people who probably didn't know it was LEGAL. Compared to DNC coolest guy Bob Creamer funding busing of minority groups for money across State lines to vote ILLEGALLY is so offensive it can only be described as idiocy.
Of course you are anonymous because we would all be able to peg Shill accounts by name. I'm guessing the DNC is paying you to post, and paying you from a different country.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Funny that you don't mention Bob Creamer in your comment, or any of the dozen or so people seeding provocateurs into not just Trump gatherings but Sanders gatherings. You don't mention the people on campuses shutting down speeches, visits, and gatherings for people who are conservative leaning. Being "alt-Right" is not an excuse to deny someone's first amendment rights. These are not one time gigs, but on Campuses have been going for years and for the election over a year.
Also consider that the only candidate to have someone actively attempt to assassinate them was Trump, when a whacko attempted to steal a gun from a guards belt to shoot at him.
If you actually recognize those real events, you would understand that someone behaving oddly would be at least suspicious. If he was reaching into his jacket pocket to get a phone and looked that far out of place you bet your ass people would think and perhaps say "gun".
Now consider the massive amount of emails found on Weiner's laptop and what we know the NYPD was investigating. Not just child pornography, but trafficking. Podesta being invited to events most people would say are occultist. How many politicians are going to be implicated by Weiner's laptop? I'm sure there are plenty of politicians worried right now. People who find information outside of the politically controlled media are, and should be, on high alert. Citations should not be needed, you know damn well how to perform Google searches and type search terms into Wikileaks. The UK has very recent examples of Government involvement in sex trafficking and pedophilia at massive scale. Politics is not immune to corruption, it attracts it.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Maybe you could get someone going on this then: Voter fraud cases (open in new window)
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the same question to BLM negroes ...
Please don't TLA Black Lives Matter to BLM.
Out here in the not-so-urban areas (where much of the pro-Trump people live) "BLM" is the Bureau of Land Management - a federal bureaucracy whose overreach is one of the major issues in the presidential politics this cycle.
The TLA is already in use, and recycling it for another actor in this drama causes initial misreading of posts that do this.
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Remember when there was zero evidence of that happening or even being remotely possible? Remember when they quietly dropped it when the truth started coming out?
Actually I didn't know that part happened, so thanks for pointing it out.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Are there no guns allowed at Trump rallies?
Nevada allows guns even in casinos (concealed with a shall-issue (i.e, go through the hoops and they must issue it) permit). But federal law prohibits them in zones around people being bodyguarded by the Secret Service. Federal law trumps state law and this law hasn't been tested in court against the Second Amendment.
How did they get all those hillbillies to leave their guns at home?
In addition to being racist and intolerant of diverse cultures, this use of "hillbillies" is incorrect, and displays your provincialism. The term applies to people in portions of the Appalachian mountain range, on the opposite side of the continent and more than 2,000 miles away from both the Sierras (where Reno is located) or the (somewhat more eastward) Rockies.
If you really want to flame the people of Nevada, try "cowboys". (Also Indians: A substantial fraction of the local population and culture happen to be members of, or descended from, one of the several local tribes.)
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Jitters?
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There is intensive voter fraud going on in all the East Coast cities (my experience being exclusively with those), though I am told the Midwest has the same issue going on in the urban areas. The dead vote regularly. It's all there if you want to look for it. The reason why no one really cares is that most of these places haven't had a competitive election in 50+ years. It tends to drive popular vote counts up in Senate races and presidential election years. As you would expect, it favors Democrats exclusively since you'd be hard pressed to find an urban area fully controlled by Republicans in the entire country. Does it turn elections? Not usually. It is a safety net if the GOTV efforts fail to get enough old people and minorities to the polls. 1960 was believed to turn on this factor, based on late returns from Chicago. It may well be that 2000 was only close because of this - though the situation was so muddy we'll never know.
Suburban/rural voter fraud exists, but is less systematic and much less frequent. Too many eyes, and people care, and most importantly the repository of potential voters is smaller than in the cities.
Pretending it doesn't exist means you aren't being honest or serious.
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> If you had confidence that Trump didn't fuck a child you wouldn't be mentioning Bill Clinton at all.
They all run the Clinton Foundation together with Chelsea, which appears to be in on some of this stuff.
Let's just say it doesn't surprise us that the Clintons would come up in relation to the Wiener probe.
But yes, I do have confidence that Trump did no such thing, he had nothing to do with Epstein (and even banned him from one of his properties) years before it came out the guy was a pedo.
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Yeah, they almost got away with another bird dogging attempt.
No wonder they were so quick to interview him on the media and get this story out, whereas you see little mention of that guy in Nevada who tried to steal guard's gun at a rally to shoot Trump.
I don't really care enough to dig up documentary evidence. It's happening - there were ample records of this back in the 90s in New York City - in particular, the 1989 mayoral election. My father was involved in Jersey politics...no one there would argue the position you are arguing, since we all knew it to be true.
But, i'll leave this here for you, since you doubt such things.
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When it all comes down to it, I think he may lose the election squarely because of HB2. North Carolina, being a purple state with large urban centers, has a lot of very ticked off voters in Wilmington, Asheville, Charlotte, and Raleigh because of what the Republican-controlled state house and governer's office has done to the state with the discriminatory law. For someone like me whose fairly young (31) and suffering political burnout, the law has had the opposite effect that state republicans intendend: it didn't galvanize the far right but instead pissed off the moderates who tend to be financially conservative but socially liberal. I will be showing up at the polls specifically to vote out the idiots in the state legislature who passed this atrocity as well as tell the governor where he can stick it. I suspect a large percentage of voters in this pool aren't inclined to vote for Trump.