GamerGate Critic Brianna Wu To Run For Congress (cnn.com)

"If you look at what our Congress is doing for tech, it's failing. It's putting all of us in danger," game developer Brianna Wu told CNN, adding "It's so imperative that people of my generation, native to technology, that we step up and make our voices known." An anonymous reader quotes CNN's report: Wu says she is running for Congress in 2018. The co-founder and head of development at games firm Giant Spacekat hasn't announced which district she wants to represent in the U.S. House of Representatives to prevent alerting her potential opponent while she prepares. Wu, a Massachusetts Democrat, told CNNMoney she's building up a team of advisers and figuring out campaign logistics before announcing her candidacy next month... She said the election of President-elect Donald Trump spurred her to consider entering politics...
Wu "says her extensive technical knowledge and experience fighting the alt-right and harassment and will be advantageous for a Congressional representative."

Comments

You mean something awful victim?

[Anonymous Coward]

It turns out, anti-gamergate affiliated goons from somethingawful were associated with actual hate directed at her, per the FBI. Most of the anti-gamergate crowd hate her guts, too. It's just that she takes the hate she receives from them and associates it with Gamergate, for reasons.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[PopeRatzo]

per the FBI

My uncle works for the FBI and says that's not true.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Anonymous Coward]

Here, have some info. You're welcome.

For some reason the media that badly covered Gamergate chose not to cover the FBI releasing its files about Gamergate.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Anonymous Coward]

Also that feminist is a dude. 'Brianna' is as much a woman as I am 'Sheldon the turtle'. Just because you have a strong feeling about something doesn't make it real. A pox on the the evils within us all this Holiday season. May the new year ring in objective truth over teh feels.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

I'd like to know when "alt-right" became synonymous with GamerGate.

Oh, I get it. "GamerGate" is dead news, and outside of the gaming community and tech journalists, no one knows what the hell it is. "Alt-right" is a hot topic, though. Nevermind that the two have jack-all to do with each other.

She kinda sounds like a politician already.

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[Opportunist]

Then it fits perfectly. People still think that Democrats is the opposite of the Republicans, despite being the same group of fuckups by a different name.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Anonymous Coward]

It became synonymous when the SJWs lost gamerGate. Whenever SJWs lose, they always consider their lose because of some "larger issue"...so they nurse their wounds, and return later to widen the scope of their attacks. The complaint goes from being a single instance, to a "systemic problem". They're nothing if not pernicious.

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[thinkwaitfast]

Not sure whether to use wikipedia or urbandictionary....

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[BarbaraHudson]

That's not a direct admission. Note the comment that the poster made when posting the quote "That's what the question was about - marriage". It was in response to a question that has since been deleted, about transsexuals telling someone they were going to marry about their past history.

Wu said it would be her own damn business - so it's obvious she wasn't the one asking the original question. Everyone, whatever their status, can have an opinion on this topic. Saying "it's my own damn business who and what I tell" isn't an admission. It's what most people would say about most things.

That being said, while she refuses to address the question now, it's obvious what the answer is. And she's wrong. Not telling someone before you sleep with them is sexual assault, same as if you went into the doctors for a prostate exam, the nurse told you to go into room 3 and undress and put on a gown, and then someone who looked like a doctors asked you if you would mind hopping on the table so they could poke around down there. Even though you consented, you didn't consent to a non-doctor doing it. Sexual assault, and not telling the guy? You deserve to get punched in the face, and consider yourself lucky if that's all you get.

Same as the trans-man who had sex for months with a woman, but since he didn't have a penis, used a dildo on her with the lights out. She found out one night, he was convicted of sexual assault. She had consented, but not to that.

She eventually got kicked out of there for the same bossy "I'm the victim" while flaming and trolling others. She then re-imaged herself on her blog saying it was surgery to correct a urinary tract problem. Subsequently, she has spent a lot of energy deleting posts on twitter that mention it.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[epyT-R]

not a bad analogy..

huhuhuh.. the traveling dingleberries.. huhuhuhuh

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

You can't possibly subscribe to that logic. Fact: there happen to be many felons that vote Democrat. Therefore, I'm going to substitute Democrats wherever I see the world felons from now on, because Democrats are currently more news-worthy. You see how silly and dishonest that is, right?

GamerGate was an unholy mess that encompassed gaming media, personal vengeance, sexism, and feminism in ways that I still don't pretend to understand (there are two VERY different accounts, with no solid proof of either). At the very least, no matter what else, I've felt that Wu and others like Sarkeesian didn't deserve the nasty harassment they got. I mean, damn, it's only videogames, and this is me as a gamer and game developer saying this. But I haven't heard of anyone politicizing it before now.

Well, I suppose it's my bad for thinking GamerGate couldn't get any uglier. Just remember who dragged politics into this festering fail-stew.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Mirvnillith]

So the cases were evaluated based on the reasons behind the threats (i.e. jokes) instead of the effects (i.e. fear)? IMHO that's not how it should work.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[AmiMoJo]

I see your point, but it's literally the same people. They co-opted the useful idiots of GamerGate for their own anti-feminist agendas.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Raenex]

At the very least, no matter what else, I've felt that Wu and others like Sarkeesian didn't deserve the nasty harassment they got.

First of, Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu injected themselves into the mix by making fun of GamerGaters. They then used the predictable backlash to claim they were fleeing for their lives... by going to a scheduled convention and tweeting exactly where they would be at the convention. They then gave interview after interview about how they had to flee their home... from their home.

But that's just one of the ridiculous sagas within GamerGate, and something never reported by the mainstream press, who were all too happy to present GamerGate as a harassment movement to drive women out of gaming.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[jellomizer]

Similarly how Fox News "accidentally" mislabeled and digraced republican as democrat. So when ever you see a basket of deplorables you want to place them in a group that isn't yours. And we like to think there is a small group of unified people who are such a group of deplorable. Not realizing that most groups are complex and have people with various views and priorities. Sure this guy may be a sexist but he may not be a racist or a religious nut or even vote republican. But because he has this negative aspect to him when he is talking it and showing it we classified him into the bad guy group.

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[cyber-vandal]

It does? I thought it started from a boyfriend who got cheated on and decided to tell the world.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

Thanks for at least conceding the point about substituting the names. I guess we'll disagree about the demographics, although I'll also concede there's bound to be some some, if not an exclusive overlap of idiots.

Unfortunately, I've found there are nasty, bitter people in just about any group you care to name. No one has a monopoly on goodness. I've learned that because I have lots of friends and family on both sides of the political isle, and the vast majority of them are extremely nice people, who wouldn't wish ill of anyone. And I've seen nasty, hateful people on both sides as well, who I want as little to do with as possible.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

Don't misunderstand, I'm not a fan of Wu. It's pretty obvious she's using this experience as a publicity springboard (now for political purposes), like she's done since the beginning. Even with all that, nope, still no excuse for death threats or other hateful messages. Same with Sarkeesian, who I disagree with in many cases, but found some of the points in her videos interesting. I've never understood the rage directed at her, other than that she was a convenient target.

Even if GamerGate were originally about a lack of integrity in the gaming press (and yes, I do believe there were probably some shenanigans at Kotaku), the message was completely overshadowed by a very real phenomenon, which is the incredible amount of verbal abuse women tend to receive online. No, it's not exclusive to them, but they seem to get a disproportional amount of vitriol. And frankly, compared to that, even as a gamer, that seems a lot more important than the original story.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Raenex]

Even with all that, nope, still no excuse for death threats or other hateful messages.

It's the Internet. Anybody can send death threats and hateful messages, including people who fake these threats themselves (has there been a single instance of a "Trump" supporter committing a "hate" crime that hasn't been proved to be a hoax or false flag yet?) And clearly Brianna "Stayed Home" Wu did not take these threats seriously.

I've never understood the rage directed at her, other than that she was a convenient target.

The same reason Jack Thompson was raged against. He was trying to fuck with a hobby that gamers loved. It's just that the gaming industry rightfully rebuked him.

Even if GamerGate were originally about a lack of integrity in the gaming press (and yes, I do believe there were probably some shenanigans at Kotaku), the message was completely overshadowed by a very real phenomenon, which is the incredible amount of verbal abuse women tend to receive online.

Actually, statistics show that men get more abuse, though women get particular kinds of abuse more often. It's just that men tend to shrug it off and wouldn't get mass media attention anyways.

Do you know Jack Thomson also claimed to have gotten death threats over his crusade against violence in gaming? How much time do you think the media spent on that, versus being critical of his views? Did he get a police escort? Awards from the gaming industry? Tons of donations?

See, his problem was that he wasn't a damsel-in-distress. He should have found a woman spokesperson like McIntosh did.

And frankly, compared to that, even as a gamer, that seems a lot more important than the original story.

No, it's just a way to claim victimhood and shutdown a movement. Of course, the same media that tried to paint GamerGate as a harassment movement was a propaganda arm for Black Lies Matter, which ended up with dead cops, lives ruined, assaults against white people, and looting. How many people were actually hurt as a result of GamerGate: 0.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Pubstar]

The threats against Wu are questionable. Same with Sarkeesian. The major ones that everyone seems to point to are from egg accounts that get screencapped within minutes of posting. Playing the victim pays out big.

Also, it was, and still is (in part), about the lack of integrity in the gaming press and the press at large. The amount of gaming sites that now have a Code of Ethics and sport disclaimers in their articles have skyrocketed since GamerGate started.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

I've never bought into the notion that they sent threats to themselves. There are too many willing idiots and haters on the internet for them to have to resort to that. I also concede that it's perfectly plausible that it was mostly random trolls and haters that sent them those threats rather than people who actually cared about the original GamerGate message. We can never really know, since the internet is largely anonymous.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Dutch Gun]

The same reason Jack Thompson was raged against. He was trying to fuck with a hobby that gamers loved. It's just that the gaming industry rightfully rebuked him.

Jack Thompson was actively pursuing legislation to oppose any industry he saw as "evil", which happened to include the videogame industry (also including music, Hollywood, and porn). Sarkeesian was espousing her feminist viewpoint, but advocating nothing beyond awareness of what she perceived as sexism and misogyny in videogames. That was a significant difference from my perspective. And again, what did she have to do with "integrity in the gaming press"? She never represented herself in that way.

I also think most of us in the videogame industry understood that distinction pretty well. Among my colleagues, we had interesting discussions about what we agreed and disagreed with in her videos. There was really nothing to discuss with Thompson, other than to laugh at his ridiculous rants and borderline-insane behavior.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Pubstar]

There are some instances of themselves sending threats to themselves. Mostly Wu. Id have to pull up the archives I have of it. Sarkeesian, not so much. A lot of the noise through the incident seemed to be Bafomet (sp?) trolls (ex SA goons) starting shit, as well as your typical band wagoner trolls. When /r/kotakuinaction was first formed, every post in there was relating to some sort of ethics violations, and no trolling. Even if you check the 4chan archives, its the same thing. The trolls that said they were from GG that sent a large portion of the threats (to both sides) also happened to be the spliter group GGRevolt. Don't buy into the GG was a harassment campaign - Take a stroll down at the KIA subreddit. Its mostly poking fun at SJWs and talking about ethical issues in gaming.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Raenex]

Jack Thompson was actively pursuing legislation [..] Sarkeesian was espousing her feminist viewpoint

Yes, but that's not the whole story, and you know it. His message was completely rejected by the gaming industry, including the press. Then "Saint Anita" comes along to sock puppet for McIntosh, and she's given awards, donations, and taken seriously by the industry, and given the full damsel-in-distress treatment.

And again, what did she have to do with "integrity in the gaming press"? She never represented herself in that way.

Not much, outside of her treatment by the press as I just described. However, GamerGate was more than just ethics in journalism, as you've probably heard before. GamerGate was a growing vortex that sucked a lot of things in on the periphery, though I also think Sarkeesian was just as opportunistic as Wu.

But why are you so concerned about these damsels-in-distress? Have you seen the threats and hate Thunderf00t got, several of them in video form? Did you see the attempt to get him fired? Do you know what his "crime" was? He made videos critiquing (and mocking) Sarkeesian. Meanwhile, Sarkeesian was complaining to the UN because people said "she sucked" or "she was a liar".

Did you see the tweets directed at TotalBiscuit when he retweeted a charity event, because the pinheads who asked for a retweet thought he was trying to send a horde of ebil gamergoobers to ruin his charity event? Lots of hateful messages and some wishing his cancer would kill him.

But that's the story of GamerGate. People who can't look beyond their damsels-in-distress instinct.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[rochrist]

Ah yes. I remember why I decided /. should just die in a fire.

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[Dread_ed]

I would think it "rape by deception," not sexual assault. Great post.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Exophase]

Even if GamerGate were originally about a lack of integrity in the gaming press (and yes, I do believe there were probably some shenanigans at Kotaku), the message was completely overshadowed by a very real phenomenon, which is the incredible amount of verbal abuse women tend to receive online. No, it's not exclusive to them, but they seem to get a disproportional amount of vitriol. And frankly, compared to that, even as a gamer, that seems a lot more important than the original story.

Jack Thompson was mentioned. Thompson received an incredible amount of online attacks and threats, to the extent that he prosecuted against death threats from one 16 year old.

https://web.archive.org/web/20...

This was reported lightly in the gaming media at the time, and with a very neutral tone. Same as instances of game developers getting death threats from unhinged people who were set off by something. This didn't blow up in the media at the time.

If women in gaming get more threats and harassment for being women in gaming, completely divorced from how publicized they've become (which is absolutely going to amplify that effect) I haven't seen solid research to demonstrate it. What I have seen is when Brianna Wu received a string of threats on her twitter (which also including threatening to castrate and kill her husband, something I've rarely seen reported) many outlets reported it, some within minutes, and by the next day she was doing interviews with major organizations. To say that the quantity and tone of coverage overshadowed that given to Thompson is an understatement.

And I can't even say this is all due to Wu's circumstances and the topicality of the story vs Wu's connections. I find it a little odd that she's able to also get this level of media coverage in announcing a bid to primary a Democratic congressman before he's even formally entered his next term (for anyone wondering, Wu has not so subtly revealed she'll be running against Stephen Lynch). One of the major hooks is that this is game developer who is supposed to have a higher familiarity with tech, but when it came to her actual game's recent PC release I can't find a single outlet covering it, let alone reviewing it.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[meta-monkey]

Even with all that, nope, still no excuse for death threats or other hateful messages.

I would never engage in such activity, but I roll my eyes whenever I hear about internet death threats, particularly over video games

1. Having a death threat against you doesn't mean you're right.

2. Saying you have a death threat against you doesn't mean I believe you.

3. If .0001% of the daily death threats screamed over Xbox Live from some n00b who just got noscoped were carried out the streets would be knee deep in blood.

So when Wu and her ilk say they're scared for their lives because of internet death threats, they're either lying (because absolutely no one believes there's any real danger) or they're beyond stupid. They don't seem stupid to me. That leaves the other thing.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[godefroi]

It should be illegal for me to carry a baseball bat (i.e. harmless) because you're mortally afraid of being attacked by a baseball bat (i.e. fear)? IMHO that's not how it should work.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[Some_Llama]

shhh, facts aren't allowed in the gamergate discussion, just like in gamergate.

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[Some_Llama]

there is a whole thing about her transition, how she used to do a college comic as a man and then transitioned to a woman, and as a woman admitted that the college comics written by her as a man were in fact her.

even the characters in her game are the same exact characters (she drew them for the comics) in the comic, same name, same style, same characters.

i googled brianna wu college comic and found it

https://encyclopediadramatica....

makes a pretty clear cut case that she was a he.

(sorry if i messed up the pronouns or was insensitive and such, it confuses me going back and forth between genders when describing someone.)

Re: You mean something awful victim?

[Some_Llama]

also the article is pretty infammitory, the facts are presented correctly and succinctly , but there is no pause for insensitive naming of sexual preferences.

Re:You mean something awful victim?

[MercTech]

Wu would do well in congress. Wu talks to hear herself talk, talks over anyone else, and refuses to listen to anything that shows she is wrong. Yep, just like a career politician.

Race to the bottom

[Anonymous Coward]

What exactly is she going to do for tech, other than force companies to hire more women and minorities, and pay them all equal regardless of talent?

Re: Race to the bottom

[Anonymous Coward]

She's going to encourage women to be as angsty as possible, and then berate men for asking women to be less angsty.

Let's all be real for a minute here. There are differences between the genders, and this "let's pretend we're all identical" social model is a dismal failure.

Why can't we recognise the differences and work with them, rather than pretend they don't exist?

Oh that's right, because it'll rob professional feminist whiners of their careers.

Re: Race to the bottom

[ichthus]

No, he wants to preserve the whole concept of girlfriend.

Re: Race to the bottom

[Sartr]

Someone who is so sensitive about being called a SJW that they feel the need to pre-emptively call anyone a "fuckwit" who is even considering using it is probably not your go-to source on women's issues in technology.

Re:Race to the bottom

[ClickOnThis]

What exactly is she going to do for tech, other than force companies to hire more women and minorities, and pay them all equal regardless of talent?

I guess we'll just have to wait and hear what her platform is. You, on the other had, appear to have decided what it is already.

Re: Race to the bottom

[William Baric]

Here's a tip. men also respond better when you take their concerns seriously, rather than assuming they are just being angsty because clearly they have nothing to complain about.

Re: Race to the bottom

[ReedlyDeedly]

Maybe quit giving incentives for employing H1B's. There are people of color out there that can program better than you or I. Embrace this fact, and those people.

Re: Race to the bottom

[PopeRatzo]

No, he wants to preserve the whole concept of girlfriend.

I guess for some of you, "concept" is the best you can hope for.

Re:Race to the bottom

[sumdumass]

Let me rephrase it for him. What exactly can she do for tech other than what he thinks she might do?

Re: Race to the bottom

[ezdiy]

I assume the point is that caricaturing men is funny, while caricaturing women is berating. I never really quite understood why people obsess about it so much anyway, there are thousands such double standards in life. Rationalizations of unjust world such as "feminazis", "internalized patriarchy" and "microaggresions" sounds like hearing children who never learned to cope with being adults.

Re: Race to the bottom

[Cinnamon Beige]

Here's a tip. Women respond better when you take their concerns seriously, rather than assuming they are just being angsty because clearly they have nothing to complain about.

Tip: This is true regardless of the person's gender.

It is, however, important to note that we've lately been socializing girls to complain--and I've run into some examples where they will raise concerns simply to keep your attention on them, because their concerns are the most important things in the world...no matter how astoundingly low-priority & insensitive to others' problems they might be. We're now having a not-insignificant number of people getting angry for daring to try to break that socialization. This is a concern, if nothing else because somebody being concerned about if the food you can barely afford is organic, fair-trade and vegan (all of which raise the costs) is...distinctly insensitive.

Re: Race to the bottom

[Oligonicella]

Do not project your shallowness onto me.

Re: Race to the bottom

[PopeRatzo]

Do not project your shallowness onto me.

Oh, excuse me. I didn't realize you were an SJW fighting for men's rights.

Re: Race to the bottom

[serviscope_minor]

Do you understand the difference between caricaturing a group you're part of versus pointing the finger at a group you are not part of?

Re: Race to the bottom

[dbIII]

Someone who is so sensitive about being called a SJW

It's a fucking insult so of course people are "sensitive" about being called it.

Re: Race to the bottom

[dbIII]

where they will raise concerns simply to keep your attention on them

That's not girls, that's Americans in general.

Re: Race to the bottom

[bongey]

Brianna Wu is not a woman, nor do the majority of biological women want a cross dressing man to represent them.

Re: Race to the bottom

[ezdiy]

Here you go with assumptions again. It's more complex than in-group/out-group. We're not talking targeted aggresion here, but mere caricature - a re-enactment of stereotype for comedic effect. For example some people took issue with this skit, despite the trope (90s TV advertising) being spot on - or a more recent one.

As long it's just bunch of people yapping I don't really care, but the moment there's a chilling effects because of this, it means a lot of people completely missed the point of having protected classes.

tl;dr car analogy: campaigning to ban driving because people die on roads is just plain overreacting. chill out, people.

Re: Race to the bottom

[ichthus]

Women respond better when you take their concerns seriously...

Some concerns are more concerning than others. If you've got a legitimate gripe about the way things are going in life, put your head on my shoulder and have a good cry; talk it out. Life gets crazy sometimes -- we all get that. But, if you're manufacturing short-circuited righteous indignation, as the OP was likely referring to, I think you need to be called out on your shit. No one should take anything like that seriously, other than as a serious indication that the concerned individual needs to rethink their purpose in life. Or, get help.

Re: Race to the bottom

[serviscope_minor]

I believe PopeRatzo is a man however. I don't really see what relevance your comment had to the gp's criticisms of his holiness.

Re: Race to the bottom

[khallow]

It's more complex than in-group/out-group.

Yet you can't be bothered to explain this alleged complexity. My view is that it really is that simple.

it means a lot of people completely missed the point of having protected classes.

No, I don't think we're missing the point. You might be though. Here's the sort of protected classes I think should exist: children, endangered species. But when you start picking and choosing which ethnic groups to protect while other ethnic groups aren't even recognized, it's quite clear that's the usual in-group/out-group dynamics going on.

Re: Race to the bottom

[ezdiy]

Yet you can't be bothered to explain this alleged complexity. My view is that it really is that simple.

Realistic conflict theory is much more than just "duh, ig/og". The complexity is of why competing cliques are formed in the first place - the explanations in terms of racial/gender (both left and right) theories appear indeed simple, but biased to the point those also completely contradict empirical research in social sciences.

But when you start picking and choosing which ethnic groups to protect while other ethnic groups aren't even recognized, it's quite clear that's the usual in-group/out-group dynamics going on.

I agree it's a problem. Right wingers are concerned about reverse racism while social left is concerned that protecting classes does not protect certain groups sufficiently (thus you get AA, which antagonizes right, in endless cycle).

You're correct that protected class is simply protection of attribute as such, regardless of value of that attribute. Can't discriminate based on sex or ethnicum, regardless of what actual gender or race one is.

Re: Race to the bottom

[khallow]

Realistic conflict theory is much more than just "duh, ig/og".

Realistic conflict theory has nothing to do with this situation.

The complexity is of why competing cliques are formed in the first place - the explanations in terms of racial/gender (both left and right) theories appear indeed simple, but biased to the point those also completely contradict empirical research in social sciences.

Which, let us note, hasn't been relevant at all in this discussion. There's always going to be clique, identity, and ethnic formation. It's not even a bad thing since common tribulations and issues can more readily be dealt with and it's an important way to socialize and get a sense of the world and the past.

We aren't speaking of why clique formation happens, but enduring double standards in the name of equality. That's classic us-vs-them with a common hypocritical rationalization.

Re: Race to the bottom

[Dread_ed]

HA! Those are the concerns of a child.

Guess we know where you stopped maturing.

Re: Race to the bottom

[Some_Llama]

Here's a tip. men also respond better when you take their concerns seriously

My concerns:

1) football

2) bacon

3) a warm place to shit

4) internet porn

I'm good, thanks. I don't need anyone to take my "concerns" seriously. Now excuse me because I have to get back to the Titans-Jaguars game. The commercial's about to end.

FTFY

Aaannd they're off

[Anonymous Coward]

(tosses bag of popcorn into microwave)

Re:Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

Microwave popcorn = BAD!

loads of chemicals

I'm firing up my hot-air popper.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

You can get a hot-air popper for less than $20 that will last for years.

I don't care if you buy store brand or 'expensive" kernels you get a LOT more popcorn per dollar, with less chance of burning the popcorn (which smells horrible BTW).

Also - I don't even have a microwave and sort of prefer it that way.

If you eat "one bag" of popcorn per day you'll break even within a month and have save a lot by the end of a year.

I'm poor. I still have a CRT TV, my latest game console is a used PS3.

You sir, are an idiot.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[serviscope_minor]

You can buy plain popping corn and microwave it just fine, by the way.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[ClickOnThis]

You can get a hot-air popper for less than $20 that will last for years.

USB-powered, FTW.

'Course, at 2.5 W, it takes a while to heat up.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[AmiMoJo]

Plus if you make your own you can omit the 3kg of salt and 8 litres of butter that the microwave versions come with.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[PopeRatzo]

I'm poor. I still have a CRT TV, my latest game console is a used PS3.

Can we please have a telethon for pecosdave? I hate to hear a story like this on Christmas Eve.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

Must inform that you are loaded with chemicals.

In fact, you're nothing but chemicals.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

Telethon? I make good money but I don't get to keep it. What I really need is a few unfair laws fixed, it will help me and many others.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[zippthorne]

Eh, if you're going to do that you might as well leave out the corn, too.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[AmiMoJo]

Tofu is a healthy alternative.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[serviscope_minor]

I'm poor. I still have a CRT TV, my latest game console is a used PS3.

I have no tv and no games console.

What does that make me? Though I assume you have a computer with a TFT screen of some sort, which actually make for sufficiently fine video media watching devices that I've never bothered to actually get a dedicated tv.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[dbIII]

Plus if you make your own you can omit the 3kg of salt and 8 litres of butter that the microwave versions come with.

No the secret is to pop the plain kernels in the microwave, either in a container or a clean brown paper bag folded over a few times.
Meanwhile on the stove you melt up 8 litres of butter and mix in 3kg of salt to pour over the nice healthy microwave popcorn.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[amanaplanacanalpanam]

It's too bad air popped popcorn Is unappetizingly chewy compared to its crunchy microwaveable cousin, even with a freshly opened jar of Redenbacher with no butter, it just seems to always disappoint in that, in my experience. Then again, even the microwaved stuff can't compare to the crunch of oil popped corn.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Cederic]

Lies! Big chunks of me are parasites and bacteria.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

Guess what the parasites and bacteria are made of...

Re:Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

I've never bothered to actually get a dedicated tv.

You sound young.

First of all - I have a wife and kids, I have a hard enough time using my own computer as it is, I have to target times when they're less likely to be around demanding my full attention - which is pretty much any time anyone plus me is home - except for my oldest who can fend for herself. (the wife and toddler both want lots of attention)

Second - I do have a nice 27" 2560x1440 monitor, and I have watched high def content on it. Were it the only screen in the house I would have a hard time taking either Cookie Monster from my toddler or the Gilmore girls from my wife to reply on Slashdot, I get the stink eye for not not focusing attention on them for any amount of time as it is.

I'm Gen-X, I'm guessing anyone Gen-Y or older probably has a TV that predated the easy to do everything on one screen era, which didn't truly start until the introduction of HDMI in 2006. Sure, I hooked a TV into an ATI Rage card back in 1997 and I built my first MythTV system back in 2003 using a Haphaug card.

If I were 22 and living in my parents basement there's a pretty good chance I wouldn't bother with a TV either. Really - my plans for an office is to get ~50" 4K TV, mount to a wall over a desk, put a couch against the opposite wall. That way I'll have a good gaming setup and a good computer monitor in my own space, but I'll still going to have something else in the living room - you know, because I don't want to rule over my family on a throne while they live like servants.

As for game consoles - I go back a ways. Sure I'm emulating a bunch of old consoles, and I guess I could part with any console that has a good enough emulator, and probably should, I just have a hard time actually doing it.

Re: Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

You know I'm a Libertarian with an actual elected position right?

I was sort of a libertarian leaning conservative, but a bit wishy washy until I became the victim of sexist courts and punitive sentencing for non-criminal conflict resolution, after that people who say crap like you just did I both pitty and see as the enemy.

Re: Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

I learned on a library PC.

Fortunately being a small town there was a computer at the library but no one who actually knew how to manage the thing back in the mid 90's. I screwed that thing up and fixed more times than I can count messing with DOS and Windows 3.1 on it. It's how I dug myself out of the shit-hole town and launched myself into the computer field when I couldn't even afford an out of date used computer in that isolated desert shit-hole.

Don't knock the library!

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

ahem, and if i were to say that i believe the core part of me, my consiousness, is a persistent and established physics reaction on a framework laid about by chemical reactions?

electrons are arguably more important to "who" you are, and chemicals to "what".

obligatory xkcd.

https://xkcd.com/435/

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

stovetop works just as good, or apparently brown bag+microwave.

air popped is more fun, and you can apparently roast your own coffee with one if you get the right gadget.

but air-popped lets you control the oil.

try nutritional yeast with a bit of salt.

it's a good topper.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

the core part of me, my consiousness[sic]

Mind-body duality?

electrons are arguably more important to "who" you are, and chemicals to "what".

The electrons bounce back and forth between... chemicals. That's why nothing you wrote contradicts the statement, "you're nothing but chemicals."

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

yes, but they compose the framework. the specific pattern of electrical activity i think is me. maybe. hard to tell. i think "you" are an ephemeral ever shifting pattern bouncing between your chemical interactions... well, also mechanical.

bleh, also, chemical is not specific enough for semantic debate.

apparently, energy isn't a chemical. information and organization aren't chemicals either.

the question is do you want to do this colloquially or full on scientifically?

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

generally speaking, do you think that a perfect modelling of your brain electronically, with the inputs and outputs of your meat-suit, and the instantaneous state of your electric fluxuations, would be another "you".

or is there something intrinsically special about your meatsuit that, despite more computational power and detail than you can imagine, cannot be reproduces in an alternate medium? i don't think there's anything significantly special about our physical analog brains, that one cannot reproduce it's pattern at some future point.

mind-body duality yes, to an extent, but probably not the historical interpretation.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

generally speaking, do you think that a perfect modelling of your brain electronically, with the inputs and outputs of your meat-suit, and the instantaneous state of your electric fluxuations, would be another "you".

I'm sure that it would start out as "me", but start diverging immediately.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[pecosdave]

Yeast? That's a new one to me.

I use Coconut oil - it helps the white cheddar or ranch flavor stick better, since that stuff won't stick to clean, regular popcorn.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

yes, but they compose the framework. the specific pattern of electrical activity i think is me. maybe. hard to tell. i think "you" are an ephemeral ever shifting pattern bouncing between your chemical interactions

Right. Chemicals. The electrons bounce around between chemicals. Lots of chemicals; complex organic chemicals doing lots of different things.

the question is do you want to do this colloquially or full on scientifically?

Are you going to say that we're physically made of something more than chemicals? If not, then there's nothing more to say.

You seem to want to talk about the interactions between chemicals, and electron flow between chemicals. None of that denies that we are made of nothing but chemicals.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

yeah, apparently it's big in the vegetarian community... and helps with some of their vitamin deficiencies.

they say it's kinda cheesy. for me i just gotta get the balance right on salt.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

nah, but i'd be more comfortable with molecules and atoms. chemicals is a bit to ambiguous these days... and it doesn't capture the complexity of the organization, and how easily it can be organized out of place. and and and... essentially all of biology.

don't know, technically you're right, but the wording is inadequate.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

i'd be more comfortable with molecules and atoms. chemicals is a bit to ambiguous these days

That's doable. I don't like it, though, since it de-enforces the fact that we're nothing but a big, complicated chemical soup.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

yeah, but the common parlance has chemicals referring more to entirely synthetic compounds, or isolated/purified natural compounds.

if you're using terminology like atoms and molecules, people more readily understand what your emphasis is.

and your language is de-emphasizing the importance in the organizational information of the matter. akin to describing a car as a hunk of iron, carbon, aluminum, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen copper, etc. etc.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

your language is de-emphasizing the importance in the organizational information of the matter. akin to describing a car as a hunk of iron, carbon, aluminum, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen copper, etc. etc.

Because -- following the analogy -- I don't want people who have irrational fears of iron and aluminum to forget that... they blithely plop themselves into a big hunk of iron and aluminum multiple times per day and give it not a second thought.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

and people are rightly more afraid of say, a new-fangled rocket car exploding them than say... a literal hunk of iron and a literal hunk of aluminum doing the same.

when people say chemicals, i think most of them just mean synthetics. when they say, hey, this herbal remedy is working I scoff... but i also understand it probably won't give them thalidomide babies. efficacy aside, nature that's been historically used for food or medicine has a track record of not killing its user in obvious ways. cultural and historical natural selection.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

when people say chemicals, i think most of them just mean synthetics.

Exactly. But you need to remind them that there actually are chemicals in that herbal remedy they're taking.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Triklyn]

generally not chemicals that have a tremendously large negative impact on survival/propagation of the species.

Re:Aaannd they're off

[Nutria]

Irrelevant.

Yeah ok

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm sure Clinton or her people had no idea about fighting the "alt-right".

Otherwise I have no idea who Brianna Wu or gamergate is. Anything ending in gate is rarely worth reading.

Re:Yeah ok

[rossdee]

"Anything ending in gate is rarely worth reading."

StarGate was OK

Anyway if she is answering questions, the first would be
"are you related to Lois Wu?"

Re:Yeah ok

[unixisc]

Who is Wu?

Re:Yeah ok

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm sure Clinton or her people had no idea about fighting the "alt-right".

Otherwise I have no idea who Brianna Wu or gamergate is. Anything ending in gate is rarely worth reading.

John Walker Wu, aka "Brianna" Wu, is a trust fund kid who spent 10 years at one of the more expensive schools in the nation to not graduate. He accomplished nothing of merit there other than infamously calling the people running the newspaper a bunch of "sand ni**ers" for refusing to let him publish his increasingly unhinged, unibomber-like screeds and god awful comic, "Socially Unconscious." This resulted in $150,000 or so being spent on an attempt to turn his shitty comic into a radio drama, a restraining order preventing him from going near the school newspaper, et cetera.

He would bounce back and forth between the school becoming increasingly unhinged. First, when his parents gave him $200,000 to try and start an animation studio, which failed because John is of the opinion that critiques are something that happen to other people, that people owe him viewership, fandom, et cetera. He then went back only to quit again in 2001 when his obscenely rich parents got him a kushy Washington DC job working for the Bush administration. He screwed that up by getting addicted to some pretty serious drugs, so his parents put him in the same rehab Tiger Woods stayed in. Ever since then he decided he wanted to pretend to be a games designer because he's decided he wants to be a role model to all young female engineers everywhere!

His parents, having wasted about half a million bucks, sold the estate they were letting him stay in and cut all ties while he was in rehab, which led to him deciding he was really Brianna Wu

Somewhere along that timeline he decided he wanted to pretend to be the main heroine of his failed comic strip, decided to marry some well connected and EXTREMELY gay writer or publisher or somesuch, decided that now the world owed him success as a video game designer so he decided he would demand EVERYONE call him a software engineer despite not knowing how to program his way out of a paper bag. He also browbeat / hired a few idiots to work at his failed game development studio where they put out an abortion of a game titled "Revolution 60," whose only mark on the industry is that it's become an in joke due to the female lead (copied straight from John's comics) having two giant testicles for hair.

Sometime around 2014 he smelled profit in pretending to be a victim online -- he's already pretending to be female, so why not -- and started harassing himself, pretending to flee his house, et cetera, all blaming it on "GamerGate," the hashtag being used to index a bunch of tweets about corruption in the games industry. He achieved some success with this mostly due to people donating so they could claim to be right and virtuous people for "fighting the good fight," but even the Social Justice Warriors can't fucking stand Wu, so this is drying up, fast. Having seen his patreon dollars slowly dwindle away the frank realization is that eventually this pathetic loser is going to either have to get a real job (which he can't because he has literally no credentials other than "I can troll people on twitter")

So he decided that what the world really owes him now is political power. He's gonna be "in charge" and you all are gonna vote for him because god DAMNIT he's OWED your votes and if you don't agree then you are a SEXIST RACIST BIGOTED MEANIE WHO HATES TRANS PEOPLE (Even though if you mention Brianna's supposedly Trans you're a LIAR AND A DOODOO HEAD!) WHO JUST WANTS TO DESTROY ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD!!!11 (Donate to my patreon plz.)

To recap. Wu has been a failed:
College Student
Comic artist (with art style traced/stolen from 'GALS!" by Mihona Fujii)
Animation Studio Head
Radio Drama Author
"Software Engineer" (aka Twitter shitposter while someone else writes the code)
Social Media Troll
Patreon Grifter
Professional Victim

Re:Yeah ok

[mrbester]

Heaven's Gate was a fun site to read as well.

Re:Yeah ok

[Anonymous Coward]

If you want Trans people in politics, then i'll give you the same advice i gave to the people who want a first female president:
Pick a good choice that will make women (or trans people in this case) proud, and not one who will be a stain due to their past dubious history and hypocrisy.

If there is a trans person who has actually studied law and has skills and talent and knowledge to do something in Congress, then by all means pick them and good luck to them with all my heart. Someone who thinks and not someone who poses. Brianna Wu is a poser.
However the fact that you would pick some professional idiot whose history is mired with mud just because of brand symbolism tracing from their label (being trans) is not only telling of your ignorance but also a stain to the very cause you are trying to act as if you are defending and supporting.
It is blindness and ignorance born of self-righteousness that often drive good causes into the ground, and you are treading that path right here.

I dare you to make a list of trans people who have actual law, business, economics degrees, that have been fought for and defended;
i dare you to put Brianna Wu in that list;
and i dare you to do an elimination round of who is a fraud and who is a person worthy of respect.
Are you so used to championing all these labels and minorities that you have lost the capability to evaluate them as individuals, this is the question i want answered.

Re:Yeah ok

[Rockoon]

Wu is AmiMoJo.

Re: Yeah ok

[dbIII]

Stargate was fun to watch (most incarnations), but I don't think I would bother to read it.

The movie was a bit like this with the serial numbers filed off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Re:Yeah ok

[Serge_Tomiko]

He did provide a citation, which itself has many citations. I sampled 10 of the 174 citations, and the story seems legit. Plus, trannies are always crazy, so the story is hardly surprising.

https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Brian...

Re:Yeah ok

[capebretonsux]

That sounds like the start of a 'who's on first routine'...

Wu who?
Stop crying SJW....

There's a joke in there somewhere...

Re:Yeah ok

[Some_Llama]

it's sad because it's completely believable.

Re:Yeah ok

[Coren22]

Isn't bigotry the practice of reducing people to only a group to which they belong, then saying things apply to them as they apply to the group?

It seems the above statement pretty well reflects true bigotry. A trans person will be elected when people stop worrying about what they are, and stand behind the person for who they are, not a single group they belong to. Why is it so important that a person belong to a group for you to support them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

and in preparation

[Anonymous Coward]

She's been mass deleting tweets

She's done this because she's an absolutely abhorrent person, a hypocrite and a narcissist, and hopes the 99% of the population who've never heard of her remain blissfully unaware of this fact until after she's won.

So it sounds to me like she's ideally suited to be a politician.

Re:and in preparation

[ClickOnThis]

She's been mass deleting tweets

Citation? I tried googling "brianna wu deleting tweets" and mostly I get a deluge of sites devoted to hating her.

Re:and in preparation

[ArylAkamov]

That figures, screencap the good stuff and sit back for the show that is about to happen. This is gonna be good.

Re:and in preparation

[bluegutang]

"If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - Cardinal Richelieu

I think it's perfectly expected for any potential candidate to minimize the amount of material that can be dug up and used, fairly or unfairly, against them.

Re:and in preparation

[AmiMoJo]

The alternative is Trump, and I don't think we want more politicians like him.

Prior joked that he would start WW3 with a tweet, then we got the nuke comments and it wasn't funny any more.

Re:and in preparation

[DerekLyons]

Yup. When my cousin ran for County Commissioner - the first thing she did, even before announcing anything, was to lock down and clean out all of her social media accounts. Sad but true, it's a necessity nowadays.

Re:and in preparation

[OverlordQ]

> She's been mass deleting tweets

Too bad she's probably the one person that gets automatically auto-archived.is'd due to the stuff they say on a daily basis.

Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Will this person have anything to offer anyone other than complaining about whatever the latest grievance obsession is? People used to look for leaders who had accomplished something.

Also, some random person is talking in vague terms about running for congress somewhere, sometime? This is news?

Re:Grievance politics

[Anonymous Coward]

Will this person have anything to offer anyone other than complaining about whatever the latest grievance obsession is?

Maybe Frexit or mass Muslim deportation. I am being serious.

Brianna Wu, and more importantly the media's promotion of her, basically move Gamergate past the point of no return and into the rolling snowball of mass online revolution against the system that became Brexit, Trump, and a general rejection of post-war media driven consensus. Never in my life could I have imagined that a scandal over video games and a paranoid transsexual could have spawned a global social-media uprising, but here we are in 2016. Donald Trump is president, Britan is leaving the EU, which is collapsing, Russia is hacking everything electronic and political, the economy is about to burst like a fuzzy overripe grapefruit, and the editors on every site have lost all control of their narratives and their comment sections and the whole political system has no idea what to do about it.

I honestly wish Ms Wu every success, because nothing would please me more than congressmen being faced the physical manifestation of the insane and dysfunctional way they have run our country into the ground. Really, it couldn't have happened to nicer people.

Re:Grievance politics

[RightwingNutjob]

OK, I'll play.

"War in Iraq": bipartisan support at the time. In hindsight, insufficiently forceful. Obama pulled out unilaterally and left the door for ISIS.

"8 years of Opposition to progress in Congress during the Obama administration": well that's the point of being the opposition, isn't it. Whose fault is it that Obama tried dictating terms and refused to even try to negotiate. The man's term has been characterized by complaints, executive orders, and zero attempt at reaching across the aisle. Maybe he believed his own propaganda so much that he thought he didn't have to, maybe he's just that arrogant in general, but whatever the situation, his excuse was always to blame Congress and never take any responsibility for his failings. Remind you of any other recent candidate?

"Keystone pipeline": Oh you mean trying to build critical infrastructure instead of tying it up in red tape at every turn? What's you're argument again?

"Years of climate change denial," Yep. Eight or more years please. Back in my day we referred to that 'denial' as level-headed skepticism of extraordinary claims. The extraordinary claim here being not global warming but the assertion that the science is so settled that we should give up control of our thermostats and our living arrangements to a bunch of central planners who are definitely qualified and totally not a bunch of academics with inflated senses of self-importance.

"Under the table promotion of the KKK and racist groups in the US,": As a Jewish immigrant to the US, the only people who've ever told me I wasn't truly American are--wait for it--liberals trying to scare me into voting Democratic. And reading through the supposedly unbiased mainstream media, that's a recurring theme. Whenever some ethnic or religious or cultural group is called out as being less than American, it's coming from a leftist trying to scare up a voting bloc bound by fear. Look in the mirror dude. It won't be that hard to find a reflecting surface somewhere in that glass house of yours.

"Fox News,": HuffPo, DailyKos, MSNBC, NYT, NPR, Slate, and more

"Accusing every network except Fox News.. to be some sort of biased "Fake news",": Jayson Blair, same recurring set of names for 'man in the street' interviews in NYT articles not written by Jayson Blair, Sitting on the story of John Edwards's mistress, rumor-mongering about supposed Trump-related hate crimes against Muslims, which all turned out to be ... fake. There are more examples.

"Promoting Economic slavery": By wanting to crack down on the black market for cheap labor and refusing to inflate the minimum wage to a point where more people would become unemployed at the low end or have their hours and/or base wage cut if converted from salaried to hourly under new overtime rules? OK. Someone needs remedial arithmetic and economics, in that order.

"Allowing money to rule politics.": Like how Hillary out-spent Trump by $600M to $300M and still lost? See above, remedial arithmetic.

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Do Democratic Party leaders think Americans want to be governed by angry, grievance-obsessed second-rate game developers? Shouldn't they have learned a lesson about telling everyone they have to vote for the designated candidate despite that person having few accomplishments and being generally unappealing?

Re:Grievance politics

[AmiMoJo]

You can't blame Obama for not doing enough to work with the Republicans. When they didn't get their way they shut down the fucking government. You can't reach any kind of sane deal or consensus with people willing to see the country burn just to get their way.

And as for Fox News, he did actually accuse them of being biased as well. The only source Trump really trusts is Breitbart. We know this because it's the one he quotes and links to on Twitter far, far more than any other. If you want to influence POTUS, take out advertising over there. I hear they could use the business.

Re:Grievance politics

[mr.dreadful]

well... I guess its right there in your user name...

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

I didn't want to distract from the point. The point is "why Brianna Wu?", not "Brianna Wu is a terrible game designer" -- because who cares?

Re:Grievance politics

[_KiTA_]

Do Democratic Party leaders think Americans want to be governed by angry, grievance-obsessed second-rate game developers? Shouldn't they have learned a lesson about telling everyone they have to vote for the designated candidate despite that person having few accomplishments and being generally unappealing?

Second? You do her too much credit. The only reason that festering pile of shit is on iOS / Steam / what have you is a complete and UTTER lack of quality control.

Want to know why Greenlight was a huge mistake? Revolution 60 and Depression Quest (which bypassed Steam Greenlight due to Quinn having a SJW friend at Valve).

Re:Grievance politics

[ArylAkamov]

They have learned nothing. Even if everybody ignores the made up harassment, the violent and hateful social media posts, and the cancerous virtue signaling, she will be supported solely because "Look! a transsexual is running! How progressive! You don't want to be transphobic, do you?".

It's going to be a hell of a show.

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Republicans running in races across the country can say "See? We told you Democrats don't care about helping you."

Re:Grievance politics

[markdavis]

>"You can't blame Obama for not doing enough to work with the Republicans. When they didn't get their way they shut down the fucking government. You can't reach any kind of sane deal or consensus with people willing to see the country burn just to get their way."

Wow, it sounds a lot like the Democrats running around screaming that Trump didn't get the popular vote (even though it doesn't matter because that isn't the game) or "is not my president" (even though he will be). Or who launched a filibuster to end all filibusters, shutting down the Senate, trying to force irrational gun control down everyone's throats when it was/is clear the vast, vast majority don't want it. Who seemingly control most of the mass media and wield it as a weapon of distorted information throughout the last year and even still.

I guess when they don't get their way they spur hatred, riots, and looting and try to shut down the government. You can't reach any kind of sane deal or consensus with people willing to see the country burn just to get their way. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar?

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Trump actually built a successful business and he has been a TV celebrity for decades. Is "just like Trump, except with zero accomplishments" a good selling point for a candidate for office? I think Trump is sort-of a jerk, so I don't think it is. What do you think?

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Every failed political officeholder has this exact same, lame excuse for being a failure: "blame the other side".

Re:Grievance politics

[Kohath]

Agreed. Saying things that a complete failure might say is not necessarily definitive proof that he is a complete failure. Maybe it's just a coincidence. This is a good point.

Re:Grievance politics

[dbIII]

Obama pulled out unilaterally and left the door for ISIS

Back then Syria wasn't part of Iraq or vice-versa.

Think about it, such a comment is as silly as blaming ISIS on Israel due to their policy of letting the Syrians fight each other.

Re:Grievance politics

[will_die]

So do you disagree with democrats who have said they will not vote for anything trump is pushing?

Re:Grievance politics

[RightwingNutjob]

WTF? A good chunk of ISIS territory is in Iraq and a good chunk of ISIS military equipment is/was captured from the Iraqi Army. Syria is it's own clusterfuck which Obama didn't handle well at all, but regardless: my comment was about as silly as blaming the cause for the effect.

Re:Grievance politics

[dbIII]

It is NOW but back then it was not.

Re:Grievance politics

[RightwingNutjob]

Huh? Obama pulled out of Iraq in the end of 2011. The shit hit the fan in Syria in early 2011.

Re:Grievance politics

[Impy the Impiuos Imp]

Do the people on the left realize the whole tea party movement was born of a rebellion against Republicans, not Democrats, because the elected Republicans were not doing enough to slow down or stop the Democrats.

In other words, its success was precisely because of the idea of stopping the Democrats even more, of getting in their way even more.

Every time some Democrat whined "the Republican congress isn't cooperating, they should cooperate more, it's what The People want", they had it bass ackwards.

Proof? The slow Republican ratchet towards state governorship and legislative control, and Congress. Pretty much all the Democrats had to pin their hopes on was an anomalous novelty president. And by this election, the novelty of such had worn off, and nobody was in the mood to apply it again.

I didn't want either to be president, but this shit was born of the Democrats driving Republicans into a corner so they had no choice but to get angry...and they have been, but you focus so much on just the presidency you didn't see it coming everywhere else. Any Republican would have won this election, Trump was the best shot at a loss...until the Dems kept opening their yappers about how people are, as with a religion, literally hell-bound deluded evil souls to be opposed to them.

Re:Grievance politics

[twistedcubic]

Obama pulled out unilaterally and left the door for ISIS.

Obama didn't pull out of Iraq, he brought troops home. Are you willing to go fight in Iraq to prevent ISIS from rising? Why not send your loved ones or children? Nobody, including you, wants to die for that bullshit.

Re:Grievance politics

[KeensMustard]

Trump actually built a successful business and he has been a TV celebrity for decades.

Almost. Trump inherited a successful business and then tried a few other businesses, some of which failed, some of which made money, some of which involved dealings with crime syndicates that have yet to be fully scrutinised. Something to look forward to. He was (and is) a C-Grade celebrity, which doesn't make him more suited to be president then your average plumber, teacher or policeman would be. Less. Might as well say "he owns a golf course, which qualifies him to be president". No, it doesn't.

Is "just like Trump, except with zero accomplishments"

Close:

"just like Trump, she has zero accomplishments"

a good selling point for a candidate for office?

I think "being like Trump" is not a good selling point. What do you think? Does Trump have any redeeming features?

I think Trump is sort-of a jerk, so I don't think it is. What do you think?

I think what most people think. That Trump got votes from people who thought their problems were the fault of some mysterious "other" or "others" and that by throwing a childish tantrum, mommy would fix it. I think he appeals to people who would prefer to retreat to a child like state and bawl rather than get on and fix the things that are wrong.

What do you think?

Re:Grievance politics

[dbIII]

You have forgotten that ISIS was only in Syria at the end of 2011 and was written off as Assad's problem.

Re:Grievance politics

[RightwingNutjob]

I think you're agreeing with me.

Re:Grievance politics

[RightwingNutjob]

My position was that there was no point in leaving if we were just going to have to go back in. This is not mutually exclusive with recognizing that it was quite probably a mistake to have gone in there in the first place, which in turn is not mutually exclusive with believing back when the pile was still smoldering in Manhattan that a preemptive invasion was necessary.

Re:Grievance politics

[dbIII]

I have no idea what you are thinking but blaming ISIS in 2016 on Obama in 2011 is more than a little bit like the people who blamed Nixon for the Vietnam war.

Re:Grievance politics

[dbIII]

News just in - Syria is not Iraq!
Please stop roleplaying your handle and act like a human being instead of a nutjob.

Re:Grievance politics

[Coren22]

https://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

Who shut down the government?

Politics is the art of negotiating. Refusing to negotiate, or even meet with the other side shut down the government. The only person who wouldn't work with the other side was Obama, and funny, but when he finally negotiated with them, the budget was signed that day. Interesting how that works, huh?

Re: Grievance politics

[Coren22]

I can only assume that yes, AmiMoJo must be an alt account of Brianna Wu, as I can see no other way for someone to be that blind...

Re:Grievance politics

[KeensMustard]

Uh, yeah, Brain, but how is little Timmy getting to use the girls' room at school going to get our jobs back?

I admit I don't spend a lot of time thinking about children's genitals. Lucky you guys are around to make up for any shortfall.

Funny thing, running on a campaign of identity politics doesn't exactly inform people on how you plan on running the country or solving problems bigger than whether we ever find out which restroom Pat will finally use.

A near perfect summation of Trump's campaign.

All about herself...

[gavron]

Scott Greenfield from simplejustice gives his take on Ms. Wu's whole-hearted attempt to represent *HER* desires and *HER* feelz and not anyone else in her failure run for Congress.

It's a good read. Scott is a lawyer who blogs daily... and he doesn't pull any punches. Unlike Ms. Wu he is able to view things objectively.

E

Re:All about herself...

[ArchieBunker]

That guy comes off as a real douche bro. If you don't agree with a candidates views then don't vote for them. Simple as that.

Re:All about herself...

[Kohath]

For the sake of argument, let's say Trump is a self-obsessed jerk. Should we elect more self-obsessed jerks to counter him?

Re:All about herself...

[ItsJustAPseudonym]

Scott Greenfield says as much:

That’s the nature of politics, that anyone can run and should. And if voters agree with her, and decide she’s better than (or not as bad as) the alternative, she will be elected.

Re:All about herself...

[AmiMoJo]

She should be popular with Democrats on Slashdot. Supported Sanders, support net neutrality, actually understand technical issues...

By the way, this lawyer doesn't seem very neutral or objective:

The goal is to champion her personal self-serving cause and vindicate her personal self-serving butthurt

Very professional. Doesn't actually explain what specifically lead him to this conclusion. He then goes off on a rant about Super Mario Run.

Re:All about herself...

[OverlordQ]

> She should be popular with Democrats on Slashdot.

As somebody who voted D this year, no. She's going to be just as much cancer for the left as Stein/Johnson was.

Re:All about herself...

[Exophase]

Supported Sanders? Please.

https://archive.is/zi9is

Who? What?

[SumDog]

I have never heard of Giant Spacekat until now. Looking at their first game, it looks pretty terrible. But it is a first game, so I'll give them that.

I don't know much about this particular person's role in Gamergate, but I think the whole thing was asinine. It failed to understand market demand and the industry surrounding gaming and entertainment in general.

Also, it's interesting all these people are deciding it's now time to do something since Trump was elected. Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough? Keep in mind everything that is happening now, is happening under the Obama administration.

Clinton and Trump were equally corrupt. Basing your decision to participate in the system now shows you've totally ignored the reality of what America does on a daily basis to destroy other nations to give the west our current standard of living.

Re:Who? What?

[Kohath]

Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough?

You clearly don't understand the culture of empty, shallow virtue-signaling.

Re:Who? What?

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know much about this particular person's role in Gamergate, but I think the whole thing was asinine.

Self promotion. "She" wasn't a target, no one gave a crap about "her", until "she" inserted "her"self into it by falsely claiming to receive death threats. (The local police have never heard of "her.")

Also, it's interesting all these people are deciding it's now time to do something since Trump was elected. Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough? Keep in mind everything that is happening now, is happening under the Obama administration.

That's the thing, it WAS enough. What we've been seeing for the past eight years is the Left slowly abandoning the Democratic Party under the realization that they're just Republicans who reverse on a couple of wedge issues. There's a reason Bernie Sanders had so much support and that it came from outside the Democratic Party. The left DOES want to replace their horrible politicians with ones that might not be warhawks eager to go to war with Russia. It's why Hillary lost - her campaign of "I'm just like Trump, except I don't know how to use a phone" just wasn't compelling, so a lot of left-leaning voters just didn't bother.

There's basically just one party in the US, there's the Republicans, and there's the Republicans who are socially liberal on killing babies and LGBT issues. And, somehow, being Republicans "but slightly less shitty" just isn't compelling to the voter who doesn't like Republicans.

But, of course, rather than realize "maybe we should act on issues our voters really care about" the Democratic Party has decided to cry Russia Russia Russia! over and over again.

Re:Who? What?

[SuricouRaven]

I've yet to work out what Gamergate actually is. As far as I can tell it started out with an incident involving a games reviewer giving a glowing review to a game that happened to be written by his partner, even though by all other accounts the game was terrible, and from there escalated into a flamewar of epic proportions that engulfed a hundred other subjects into one big ball of confusing anger involving a lot of death threats, rape accusations, accusations of fabricated death threats and false rape accusations, ridiculously easily-offended people, people who set out to offend them for amusement, and generally all the things we love to hate about online political culture.

Re: Who? What?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sadly what you say doesn't matter. In the time you took to explain that, 3000 comments were posted about corrupt Hillary. It feeds on basic anxieties and assigns blame for everything that is wrong. We're going down this road where the truth doesn't matter even if it destroys us.

Re:Who? What?

[AmiMoJo]

Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough?

You have to keep in mind that things were getting better in people's everyday lives during that time, and really that counts for a lot. LGBT rights advanced a lot under Obama, for example. Obamacare helped a lot of people too. Even just having a black guy in that job was a big step for a lot of people.

So while there was criticism, people weren't thinking "my friend might die if her medical insurance is cut off" or "is my marriage going to be annulled?" It sucks that people aren't so concerned with the other stuff, but unfortunately it has to get much worse than that for people to find the motivation. She will have to give up running her business to do this, for example.

Revolution 60 is not bad. It's a mobile game so has to deal with using the touchscreen for controls. As such it uses a real-time but not very fast paced combat system. It's got a lot of story and your choices have lasting effects.

Some people criticised the graphics, but you have to remember that it needs to run well on low end iPhones. I'm not keen on the character designs myself, but it plays well enough.

Re:Who? What?

[Anonymous Coward]

GamerGate started when her ex-boyfriend put up a blog post making various allegations about her infidelity, including the false claim about the review

This is blatantly false. The zoepost makes no such allegation about a review, and the author clarified that he does not believe there was any conflict of interest in the comments. The post was not about conflicts of interest; it was about emotional abuse.

If you insist on claiming otherwise, please show where the author accuses Grayson(?) of writing a favourable review of Depression Quest in exchange for sex. (This is a rhetorical request, for the reader's benefit more than yours or mine; I know you won't supply any cites, because you never back up your bullshit.)

Re:Who? What?

[phantomfive]

Also, it's interesting all these people are deciding it's now time to do something since Trump was elected. Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough?

There's a saying, "All politics is local." In other words, people vote based on what is most relevant to them.
For a lot of people, sexual assault is more relevant (that is, they can relate to it more easily) than drones in a distant land. So that is what makes them activists.

Re:Who? What?

[ArylAkamov]

Well, I guess that's one side of it.

Re:Who? What?

[Anonymous Coward]

Here you go

Re:Who? What?

[Anonymous Coward]

My apologies, you are correct. The allegation about a positive review was note made in the blog post by her ex. It was fabricated later by people supporting him as a way to justify the harassment.

And to be completely clear, once again, the review does not exist. The allegation is entirely false.

It wasn't a review. It was coverage. The head editor of Kotaku strawmanned the argument into "review" in order to make it more specific and false, which allowed them to deny it. Everyone knows this, except certain trolls that support Gawker's disgusting behavior intentionally muddy the waters to give themselves some cover.

Nathan Greyson absolutely COVERED Quinn's scams and "projects" without announcing he was friends and later dating her. That should have got him fired. Kotaku instead doubled down, and we got GamerGate.

Then we had the Gamers Are Dead scandal and the discovery of GameJournoPros, a secret mailing list where people like Greyson and the Kotaku editor were discussing how to break NDAs, fix review scores, and blacklist topics and people, which fanned the flames of GamerGate and ensured it wouldn't go away.

And hey, while we're speaking of harassment, wanna talk about how Quinn sent a flood of sexist and racist hate mail to Candance Owens to an email address that only Quinn knew, claiming it was by "gamers?"

Or the huge leaks of her "advocacy organization," Crash Override Network -- aka, "CON," proving that they were doxing, harassing, gaslighting, and generally being monsters to everyone who pissed Quinn off that week?

Or how Quinn openly bragged about being part of the Helldump board of SomethingAwful that was dedicated to doxing and harassing people into suicide?

No? Yeah, didn't think so. Zoe Quinn is a serial abuser, rapist, and sociopath. If there's only one more thing GamerGate could succeed at doing, it would be ensuring that nutjob never hurts another person.

Re: Who? What?

[Oligonicella]

First off, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican either.

Bullshit, I've seen your posts where you claim any affiliation that suits whatever argument (and you've posted arguments that counteract each other), Dem, Rep, Lib, Comm... whatever. Want people to take your writing a tad more seriously? Use a pseudonym instead of AC. AC is an umbrella for *every* pov.

Re:Who? What?

[bongey]

There was a review by his/her sock puppet accounts. He/She flamed him/herself on steam, to play the victim card.

Re:Who? What?

[serviscope_minor]

Unlike you apparently who virtue signals about not virtue signaling at every opportunity.

Re:Who? What?

[Orgasmatron]

What's really funny is that right-wing critics of the Republican party complain that they are too much like the Democrats. We refer to a big chunk of them as "the Republican wing of the Democrat party". I view the alt-right as the fraction of the right (including a fraction of the Republican party) that is opposed to the Democrat agenda and not merely trying to slow it down by a couple of months, or worse, get rich by ushering it in while saying mean things about it. The alt means alternative, not only to the GOP establishment, but to the Democrats and Progressives.

I've got to ask though - what exactly is it that you want from the Democrat party that you aren't getting? Is your complaint that the Democrats want to go to war with Russia? Is there not enough "free" shit? The last white man hasn't been chased out yet? What do you want?

I can't help mocking you a little, but I'm genuinely interested.

Re: Who? What?

[dbIII]

Who says those elections are going to happen?
After all, they may be "rigged" so it may be seen as a good idea to to stop them, just in case of course, and not really part of dismantling the Republic.

Re:Who? What?

[dbIII]

what exactly is it that you want from the Democrat party that you aren't getting

I'm an outsider here but it looks from afar that in the recent election they ignored most of the American population and were instead trying to convert Republicans. I think that's why the people in the "rust belt" who have their lives messed up by the likes of Trump reacted to that lack of attention by the Democrats instead of automatically voting Democrat as Hillary expected.

Seriously guys - it's a real fuckup this time so it's worth considering compulsory voting which will provide room for other parties. There could have been a Sanders party.

Re:Who? What?

[Rakarra]

I'm very offended at your virtue-signal mocking!
Everyone, don't you see how offended I am being?

Re:Who? What?

[Raenex]

I've been asking for links to the review or an archive copy for ages now and no one has provided anything more than a single line content written before they were a couple.

This is such mythical bullshit that you probably have asked it before, and were given the correction to your bullshit, and then completely ignored it and repeat this shit ad museum whenever this topic comes up.

Re:Who? What?

[Raenex]

Basically, it comes down to pay-for-play

It wasn't "pay-for-play" so much as a bunch of social justice idiots within the indie scene having a cozy relation with social justice idiots in the gaming press.

Re:Who? What?

[serviscope_minor]

Is there virtue in your offence? Are you virtue signaling virtue for criticism of signaling virtue signaling?

Re:Who? What?

[meta-monkey]

Were the eight years of predator drone bombing not enough? Was the ten plus years of warrant-less spying not enough? Was the endless war not enough? Keep in mind everything that is happening now, is happening under the Obama administration.

The anti-war crowd only cares when it's a Republican in office. Dems were all set to nuke Russia because Podesta can't identify a phishing email.

Also, expect to see a return of stories in the news media about the homeless. The homeless always seem to vanish whenever a Democrat is in office, then pop right back up when a Republican wins.

Re: Who? What?

[Some_Llama]

you know that "anonymous coward" isn't the same guy posting over and over right?

Re: Inquiring minds want to know

[Anonymous Coward]

"She" doesn't have one.

twitter feed

[japaneseharold]

I noticed her Twitter feed is limited only to her latest non-violent and nice posts. I wonder why that is? During the gamergate fiasco, she posted some of the most abhorrent, violent, and childish things I've ever seen. Especially against men. I would hope her political opponents will bring this up and destroy her. She is not mentally fit or mature enough to run a small gaming company, let alone a district.

Re:twitter feed

[Golgafrinchan]

I noticed her Twitter feed is limited only to her latest non-violent and nice posts. I wonder why that is? During the gamergate fiasco, she posted some of the most abhorrent, violent, and childish things I've ever seen. Especially against men. I would hope her political opponents will bring this up and destroy her. She is not mentally fit or mature enough to run a small gaming company, let alone a district.

If only posting abhorrent and childish things on Twitter were enough to disqualify one from seeking political office...

Re:twitter feed

[ArchieBunker]

Awww sounds like she triggered you

Re:twitter feed

[AmiMoJo]

'Gaters and the alt-right have had a pretty bad few years with movies. First Star Wars VII didn't bomb, despite being a feminist nightmare. Then Ghostbusters just did sort of okay, in a year when every summer film under-performed, and by failing to be terrible didn't deliver the proof that women just aren't funny they were hoping for. And now Rogue One, another female lead, and it's good.

Re:twitter feed

[japaneseharold]

If only the mainstream media didn't lie, alter, and change the words of our president elect. You might have a different opinion. I watched almost all of his speeches live. The coverage after by 99% of the media was biased and mostly fictitious.

Re:twitter feed

[japaneseharold]

yeah, well, I don't; think it counts, since I'm not trying to run for congress and change laws for the sole purpose of stopping the freedom of speech and because I demand to not be offended.

Re:twitter feed

[serviscope_minor]

You missed out "mad max fury road" too.

Personally, I don't think they did a great job with rogue one, but the female lead has nothing to do with that. On the plus side the winning I has made it worthwhile.

Re:twitter feed

[AmiMoJo]

Ah yeah, Fury Road was great.

Re:twitter feed

[dbIII]

This what I don't get about the issue.
If "Fury Road" is feminist then so is "Crocodile Dundee".

Max saves the girls.
How is that feminist?
So there are strong female characters - how does that make it any more feminist that a Bogart-Bacall movie?

Guns and guzzaline in the desert - awesome.

Re:twitter feed

[epyT-R]

He watched the speeches himself instead of just taking the media's word and you're discounting him already? Now that's some sound judgement right there.

Re:twitter feed

[serviscope_minor]

Max saves the girls.

Did you miss the bit of the film with Furiosa in it?

Re:twitter feed

[dbIII]

She also does a lot, but there are scenes where Max does save the girls. In a feminist movie he wouldn't need to do that.
The hose bathing scene and that models were cast instead of actresses for several of the girls in that scene is also an enormous clue. Pure eye candy. Not very feminist is it?

Re:twitter feed

[serviscope_minor]

She also does a lot, but there are scenes where Max does save the girls. In a feminist movie he wouldn't need to do that.

Feminist does not mean female primacy over all. The thing that makes it feminist is that Max's actions do not detract from Furiosa's. There's also the range of roles rather than being pigeonholed all into a single role. Furiosa is not the same as the brides nor the many mothers. In fact it's almost as if it portrays women and varied with a range of strengths and weaknesses just like real people.

Honestly though many columns inches by much better writers than I have been written on the topic. If you want to know more, you'd be better off reading stuff by good writers who are feminists than mediocre comment warriors. Have a Google and read whatever comes up. You'll find people debating all sides of it.

Re:twitter feed

[Kartu]

Rogue One is about bunch of people, only one of them woman (with one of the pretties faces in Hollywood, mind you) and no clear leader, bar awkward "inspiring speech". What is feminist about it?

On the opposite, Mad Max has that about all women in the movie being either victims or members of wise group of people of certain gender that tried to save civilization from male savages. Oh, and it was not about Mad Max at all. Not sure why you called it feminist nightmare, I'm pretty sure most western "feminists" out there quite enjoyed it.

Re:twitter feed

[bobby_9x]

You post doesn't even make sense. Regardless, we don't need another monster (IE: Brianna Wu) in politics.

Re:twitter feed

[Rakarra]

> Do you see a trend here?

I do. I do see a trend. Its you working backwards to rationalize your conclusions. Its de riguer for gamergaters, and really all bigots.

He's not rationalizing, industry buzz is that Ghostbusters was a flop. Not a super-box-office bomb, but an underperformer nonetheless. It was neither funny nor scary, two things the original had going for it, and it broke most of the rules for whether you should do a remake.

Re:twitter feed

[dbIII]

That's not feminist, that's just a story that is not incredibly shallow.
Why debate it? The people pushing the "Mad Max is feminist" line push it as if that is all the movie is so all it takes is one instance of Max being the hero to disprove the shallow "it's nothing but feminist propaganda" line.
It all really started with some guy who had lost in the family court seeing enemies everywhere putting the label of "feminist" on Mad Max. I don't get why the label stuck. Frankly it's just juvenile and an insult to everyone, not just the feminists that those people want to insult.

Re:twitter feed

[dbIII]

Feminist does not mean female primacy over all

I think I phrased my reply badly. The people who are complaining that Mad Max is feminist appear to be taking exactly that line that it is about female primacy over all. All it takes to counter that shallow view is to point out one instance of Max saving the girls.
If feminism is seen as "look, a girl is driving a truck" then I really have no answer to that other than disagreeing. The Queen of England used to drive trucks, and I don't mean just Land Rover Defenders but also 1940s things that could transport a small tank.
To me having strong female characters is just part of a good movie and not advocacy for an ideal. Just because Hollywood is normally skewed exactly the other way doesn't mean the exceptions are a feminist conspiracy - which you may remember was the ridiculous starting point of this "debate".

Re:twitter feed

[dbIII]

Perhaps your understanding of feminism has been defined by anti-feminists.

Since we are discussing how people are calling the movie part of a "feminist conspiracy" it is worth keeping in mind that the subject is question IS how anti-feminists frame things, and how utterly ridiculous such an approach is.

Would that not be where she lives?

[El Cubano]

The co-founder and head of development at games firm Giant Spacekat hasn't announced which district she wants to represent in the U.S. House of Representatives to prevent alerting her potential opponent while she prepares.

Would that district not happen to be the one where she lives? I thought it was the law in every state that you had have residence in the constituency if you run for elected office in that constituency? Or, does she intend to carpetbag, like Clinton did when she moved to New York?

Re:Perfect fit.

[CaptainDork]

It's a working model (you'll see what I did there).

Trump has whore support.

Re:GAYmergate

[Anonymous Coward]

Gamergate started with the public outcry over game developers, companies & publishers colluding with game review magazines & sites to fix reviews in exchange for money (and sex allegedly). The review sites & magazines (along with their parent publications & owners) changed this into a "women are victimized in gaming" issue to deflect the issue.

These are two separate and serious issues but one got buried under the vitriol, attention seeking and underhandedness from most of the parties involved.

Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[hey!]

Exactly who does she intend to take down?

The place she'd have the biggest impact if she won would be Stephen Lynch's 8th, which encompasses the Boston neighborhoods of Southie Roslindale, and Dorchester, the cities of Brockton, Braintree, Norwood, and Quincy. Lynch is an old-time union Democrat. He's also the least liberal congressman from Massachusetts, which in his own analogy is like being the slowest Kenyan in the Boston Marathon. But she'd have almost zero chance of winning the working class voters in this district especially against a longtime incumbent.

In American politics, incumbents are at there most vulnerable in their first re-election campaign. So Wu's best bet would have been to run this year against Katherine Clarke, who has just been re-elected to the relatively new 5th. But that ship has sailed, and now Clarke is fully familiar to her constituents in her sprawling suburban district.

The place where Wu's tech background and politics would be most advantageous would be long-time liberal lion Mike Capuano's 7th district, which includes Cambridge and Somerville. But he's been winning elections in those communities since he was elected Mayor of Somerville in 1990. He also made it past the first re-election benchmark in the new district boundaries this year.

So basically this is like her announcing her candidacy to become a liberal feminist for Emperor of the Moon -- if the incumbent Emperor were a popular liberal feminist. It's not likely to come to anything, and if it did win it wouldn't make much of a difference. She should move to North Carolina and run there.

Re:Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[Eharley]

Yeah, I don't get it. She hasn't done anything else in local politics / public service, either right?

Re:Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[Kohath]

She should move to North Carolina and run there.

Because North Carolinians want to be represented by someone who doesn't care about North Carolinians? Are there districts where voters always vote for who they're told they have to vote for in North Carolina? And if there are, why would party leaders choose Brianna Wu for that office?

Re:Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[ItsJustAPseudonym]

Exactly who does she intend to take down?

I suspect it does not matter. From the summary:

[Wu] hasn't announced which district she wants to represent in the U.S. House of Representatives to prevent alerting her potential opponent while she prepares

Uh huh. That's what politicians say about their plan, when they don't actually have a plan. "I can't tell you my idea, because I don't want to give it to my opponent."

Re:Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[hey!]

Well, it's up to them, isn't it? The point is when you run you're offering people an alternative.

Re:Bad place for a liberal insurgent candidate.

[ClickOnThis]

She should move to North Carolina and run there.

I saw what you did there.

She'd have to go to the bathroom in South Carolina.

Turning point

[Iamthecheese]

3...2...1...At this point all the Wu critics have voiced in, and the story has been up a little while. It's time for the Wu supporters to make the top comment something about how Wu is a powerful womyn who deserves to be in congress because of her social insight and experience running a gaming company.

Re:Turning point

[UnknownSoldier]

In case anyone is curious about the questions the Stupid Juvenile Whiner ignored ...

* https://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7723721&cid=50163683

i.e.

You recently tweeted that no one who isn't transgender should voice opinions on transgender issues yet you regularly voice your own opinion on these issues. Is this a tacit "coming out" of your own transgender past, and if so, what does it mean for your own position as a representative and "megaphone" for women's issues and how you speak to the personal history of growing up as a woman?

--
SJW, noun, acronym for Stupid Juvenile Whiner/Whore: a drama queen over issues no one gives a fuck about.

Re:Turning point

[Cinnamon Beige]

Seeing the ignored question--yeah, if she's going to insist that only trans people get a voice in trans issues, she needs to answer when asked if she's coming out about it or not. It'd be an entirely different issue if she was insisting that it should never matter if somebody is or is not trans--that this should not get those who are or aren't any different treatment aside from what might be medically necessary.

Re:Turning point

[ClickOnThis]

Apologies. I failed to see that she may have had her choice of which questions to answer.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

She didn't "ignore" that question. She wasn't asked it.

Bullshit. I asked directly, and the question was subsequently deleted. And I was pretty damn specific, asking why she was refusing to address the question of if she was trans. I mad the point in 3 different posts. All deleted by the powers that be.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

I asked it 3 times. All deleted. And I was far from the only one to do so.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

Looking back at the original article where the questions were asked, I asked 3 times that it be addressed. Those questions have been deleted. So were others.

I have skin in the game, and wanted to know why anyone would continue to deny the truth when it's so well documented, right down to the voter registration card name change. I also asked why her characters were hypersexualized on her revolution60 pages, right down to camels toe. Why draw characters that are an early adolescent male's wet dreams and then criticize other games for objectifying women?

Being a transsexual is nothing to be ashamed of. I was outed here a decade ago, no big deal. Acting like you're ashamed of it, and expecting it to stay hidden while running for office, when the truth is so easily found, is whacko.

Re:Turning point

[AmiMoJo]

Wu is openly trans, mentions it on Twitter now and then, doesn't try to hide it. What she does object to is deadnaming, but that's not due to shame.

She charged the character designs in Revolution 60 based on feedback like yours. She even mentioned it in her Slashdot Q&A.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

First, she did NOT mention me in the Q&A. If you read it, If it ever existed, it's since been censored out of existence. Same as my questions in the original article.

Second, I didn't do any dead-naming.

Third. dead-naming or not, it's cowardly not to address the issue of being trans directly instead of deleting crap on twitter. That's not demonstrating leadership. It's just encouraging people to do it over and over because, when you delete it, they know it gets your goat. Great way to feed the trolls.

Fourth, if you act the same way as someone who is ashamed of being trans, people are going to judge you by those actions and conclude you really are ashamed. And they'd be right.

Fifth, trans women don't like her, because in the past she's treats us like shit. It's why she got booted off Susan's Place.

Sixth, all this fails to address the point that Slashdot censored the questions. This was the same month they announced that DICE was selling them. "Sanitizing" it to make it look better? You can't hide behind the DMCA safe harbor if you exercise control over what's posted. Sounds more like slashdot lite.

Re:Turning point

[AmiMoJo]

Sorry, I wasn't accusing you of anything. Crossed wires I think.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

Hey, never a problem. It's just that all too often, a member of a minority screws things up for everyone and people think "why the hell doesn't one of them speak up?" After all, in this case, her tactic has been to accuse anyone who disagrees with her of misogyny and/or transphobia just to shut down argument, with a lot of virtue-signalling thrown in and "see I'm SOOO persecuted for being a woman."

She's full of it (and herself), lies a lot, claims all sorts of qualifications she doesn't have, and uses every opportunity possible to generate $$$ and attention. This article is just one more example, with the link to her patreon account.

It's like when she said that she was using the money from that to hire someone to get rid of the troll posts on her twitter feed. It's been established that that somebody is her under another name, one that additionally simply doesn't exist in the USA. But hey, when you're sooo bad that your parents have to cut all ties with you and sell the house you're living in to get you out of their life and bank account, what can you expect?

Also, it's foolish to think you can erase anything from the net. Only someone who has no idea how the net works would even attempt to - and hiding crap just brings out the hounds. This is all just another scam to pull in a few bucks. Given that there's no previous history of wanting to run for office, the timing is just too convenient. And given that she's been caught writing threatening posts to herself on several occasions, if people elect her, well, they get the government they deserve. We're seeing a LOT of that lately. :-)

Now I agree that the whole deadnaming thing is wrong, as is the misgendering. However, people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs, and the only way to change that is to be patient with them. It's hypocritical to demand others accept who you are if you can't first accept who they are, but too many transsexuals forget that acceptance is a two way street. Heck, plenty of my family still won't use my legal name and gender even though I was outed here a decade ago. I accept that's the way they are, and they have no more obligation to change for me than I have to detransition for them. And that's why I'm invited to Christmas supper today ... I don't let it interfere with the things that count, and I'm not a hypocrite to demand of them what they don't demand of me.

It's the same as religious people refusing to sell gay wedding cakes - they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate, but at the same time, if you were gay why the HELL would you want to give them your business in the first place? Or are you just looking to start a fight on "principle." Looking to create a conflict is the polar opposite of principle. Makes me yearn for the '60s with the flower power and "make love not war" stuff I've seen on TV. Think I'll put on some Beatles and go back in time. Merry Christmas.

But I'm still p*ssed off that DICE heavily censored the original list of questions. It goes entirely against the "Comments owned by the poster" at the bottom of the page that entitles them to the DMCA safe harbor in the first place.

On another note - my GP thinks I should get out there and be an advocate for trans rights. I don't want to - I've wasted enough time advocating for people who ultimately just screw up some more because they think I'll clean their mess up again. For them, it's "Bah, humbug!" and a lump of coal. It's the only way to make them take responsibility :-)

Re:Turning point

[AmiMoJo]

I read your whole post, so please don't think I'm ignoring it. I just don't want to get into all the stuff about Wu.

Re:Turning point

[Rakarra]

Third. dead-naming or not, it's cowardly not to address the issue of being trans directly instead of deleting crap on twitter. That's not demonstrating leadership. It's just encouraging people to do it over and over because, when you delete it, they know it gets your goat. Great way to feed the trolls.

Also, if she can't handle a trans question on Slashdot, no way is she able to withstand an actual election where reporters will ask her questions.

She doesn't have Trump's "I can lie about anything and get away with it" machismo.

Re:Turning point

[Cinnamon Beige]

This is about the only time I'm going to talk about this--but it's very, very reassuring to me to have gotten to see you around, just being proof that one can be a calm, rational being and trans, Ms. Hudson. You've very correct about the problem with a member of a minority screwing things up for everyone--and that can include creating, causing, and/or strengthening stereotypes that will cause some people to opt to be closeted simply because they don't want to be seen that way.

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

Fortuntely, there's no real protocol. - you just use the pronouns and gender that people present as. Could be hard for people like David Bowie, Michael Jackson, and Prince, but that's a whole other story. :-)

Re:Turning point

[BarbaraHudson]

I wouldn't be hard on AmiMoJo. Took me a bit before I figured out what the whole Anita Sarkeesian / Zoe Quinn thing was all just a hot stinking mess of sturm und drang. My mother was a feminist. Fortunately, like her, feminism is now dead, so we can end this stupid men vs women class warfare. Arguments for pay equity should be gender-blind. Instead of wasting time on "safe spaces", which just perpetuates the whole men vs women crapola, we should be getting everyone to feel that they can stand up against crap, irrespective of sex. Telling women that we should be seeking refuge in safe spaces is patronizing as all hell, not to mention infantizing and disempowering.

I pity anyone who tries this sort of stupidity with my daughters - they don't need any white knights to rush in and defend them. We're not back in the "house with white picket fence '50s" any more. And as women more and more are getting the upper hand economically (2/3 of uni grads are now women), the balance is going to shift drastically. Feminism will be dead because the goals will have been achieved, and surpassed. Look around - it's happening all the time.

As for the f*ckheads who agonize over Clinton not breaking the glass ceiling, Warren would have done so easily. I used to think Obama was going to go down as one of the great presidents. Not any more. His childish "I would have beaten Trump" ignores that he campaigned for Clinton, calling her the most qualified candidate ever. Her campaign was widely seen as a surrogate for an Obama 3rd term. Obama stooping down to Trump's level is the end of any possibility to polish this turd or an administration. Trump will probably be just as bad, but so what? Maybe eventually things will get so screwed up that the current status quo won't be an acceptable solution.

Re: Good

[Anonymous Coward]

We sure do, but she is not intelligent.

Re:GAYmergate

[FatdogHaiku]

TIRED of all these retards ending anything that they disagree with with a "-gate."

I agree. We should name this sentiment disagreement-gate or gate-gate so that we can all organize our disagreement with something catchy that the laymen will understand while being easily searchable.

Oh Please No!!!
Someone somewhere will decide that this is some sort of conspiracy and then you KNOW what happens...
Gate-Gate-Gate!

Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[Anonymous Coward]

It seems all these women that make noise don't do anything but parade victimhood. The women I know in the field that put their head down to the grindstone (like the rest of us) don't have these persistent (manufactured) problems.

I used to love the video game world until the Anita Sarkeesians started seeing mysogyny everywhere and made everything about themselves rather than the gaming. And fools keep on rushing to give them a platform even though they produce next-to-nothing but drama.

Re:Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[Sartr]

Lifetime Professional Victimhod actually makes them perfectly suited for life as a Democrat politician.

Re:Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[rogoshen1]

"women"

Re: Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[Opportunist]

This woman is simply doing what religious leaders have been doing for centuries: Milking the "outrage" of people to get rich. Why do you hate capitalism?

Re:Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[0100010001010011]

women I know in the field that put their head down to the grindstone

It's not even that they keep their heads to the grindstone, it's that they just live life without going out of their way to be victims.

My wife and I both work in STEM. I can count on two hands the number of people we know in our 30s that have Twitter and on one hand the ones that post more than once a day. Most are on facebook but keep it to stuff like sharing recipes and photos of their kids.

Watching how often these people tweet it's any wonder they get anything done.

Re:Another professional victim like Zoe Quinn?

[Coren22]

I look forward to all the vitrol being spewed when she loses the election. It will be entertaining.

good luck!

[ooloorie]

Wu "says her extensive technical knowledge and experience fighting the alt-right and harassment and will be advantageous for a Congressional representative."

May she be as successful running as a Congresscritter as she has been as a game designer. And if, in a paroxysm of insanity, the good people of Massachusetts elect her to Congress, they get the representation they deserve.

Re:good luck!

[AmiMoJo]

May she be as successful running as a Congresscritter as she has been as a game designer.

If Trump can do it, so can anyone.

By the way, Revolution 60 sold reasonably well. Well enough for a special edition.

Re:good luck!

[TodPunk]

As a data point, I wouldn't use "got a special edition" as an indicator of success. Quite frankly, sales have to have been abysmal, measurably so:

https://steamspy.com/app/35020...

I'm not going to say that this means X or Y. I'm just presenting data that counters your claim of data. If you have other data, I'm happy to see it.

Re:good luck!

[ooloorie]

By the way, Revolution 60 sold reasonably well. Well enough for a special edition.

Have you played it? The game is awful. The pity reviews on iOS not withstanding, it was also badly received on Xbox and Steam.

I wouldn't vote for her

[BlueCoder]

Way too sensitive and reactionary.

Re:I wouldn't vote for her

[serviscope_minor]

Sensitive and reactionary? Sounds like a perfect candidate for president!

Re:Victimhood identity won't work in politics

[serviscope_minor]

Victimhood identity won't work in politics.

Yes. There is no way anyone who played the victim card, for example by claiming that the election was rigged against him, could possibly become president. That would be crazy and I just don't see it happening.

Re:GAYmergate

[Dogtanian]

I refuse to read your petty articles if you're going to write them like a bunch of proud, cocky seventh graders.

Says the person whose comment is headed "GAYmergate".

Who says she has to stay there

[SuperKendall]

I predict she moves somewhere she thinks she can win. Worked for Hillary...

She will be absolutely destroyed by whatever Democrat she runs against though in the primaries when they find her vast trove on online hatred.

Re:Who says she has to stay there

[jcr]

I predict she moves somewhere she thinks she can win.

So... California?

-jcr

Actually, no.

[Texmaize]

Although it is popular on these forums to Trump bash, he actually is not terribly corrupt. There is a difference between disagreeing with a policy position and corruption. Making a judgement call that is different than you is not a crime. The most frightening thing of our time is that so called smart, educated people of this time do not see this.

Hillary Clinton was actually the definition of corrupt. She accepted money for favors. She used power and coercion to silence political opponents and alter election results. She and her staff actively worked to suppress the political views of Sanders supporters. Amazingly, it is all they're in the Wikki leaks and other sources, if you bother to read them. Remember, the counter arguments of these leaks is not that they were untrue, but another government may have brought them to light. Think about this. No, really, think. The. Accusations. Are. True.

The better question is why do accept an American press that was complicit in suppressing and hiding these facts? So, Trump may be an asshole. He may be gruff and insensitive. He certinally used every loop-hole that he could find in the law to abuse the system. However, that is not a crime. These are the rules that people like Clinton and frankly nearly every congressmen (including the Republican ones) put in aid rich friends and donors. To imply the person using the system is more corrupt than the one who designed it to be corrupt is truly beyond hypocritical.

The democrats nominated a corrupt person. She was ultimately destroyed by the truth leaking out. The democrats almost nominated an honest politician. Things might have been different if they did. But please, stop this bullshit of saying everyone is equally as corrupt as Clinton was/is. It is untrue.

Re:Actually, no.

[serviscope_minor]

Although it is popular on these forums to Trump bash, he actually is not terribly corrupt.

Using a charitable foundation to pay off personal fines is pretty much the textbook definition of corruption. And then there's the flat out refusing to pay people for work, threatening them with very expensive lawsuits if they try to sue.

Stop getting hung up on what you want to believe about Hillary and actually try to evaluate trump objectively on his own demerits.

A "career" based on lies

[sciengin]

That really shows just how profitable lying really is.
Lets recapitulate for those that did not follow gamergate back in 2014 what this person had to do with it:
Nothing, zero, zilch!
It should be clear to everyone who knows how to use google to dig up more than news sites that the claim that gamergate was anything like a hate movement is clearly wrong, it was always about finally getting _some_ standards in gaming journalism, really just "dont fuck the person you are reporting on" would be enough, maybe followed by "dont collude on a secret mailing list to release 14 articles about how your target group (gamers) are supposedly dead on the same freaking day" because that was just a tiny bit suspicious.
If you want to know more, dont bother with the wikipedia article as they are so horribly biased that even Jimmy Wales called them out on it. May have something to do with citing Gawker and their subsites as sources, the very sites that were in the cernter of that controversy. (Go cite "Mein Kampf" as a trustworthy source on the article about worldwide Jewery, I dare you).
Sadly the article on Gamergate on encyclopediadramatica is much more objective, despite being completely irreverent.

Anyway, so far so good, this was between Gamers, Journalists, Zoe Quinn (and her fake death threats) and Anita Sarkesian (and her fake death threats). No trace of Wu so far.
Thats because she was utterly unknown. Literally no one had ever heard of her or her game prior to her claiming to have been forced out of her house because of "death threats" (both lies, she never left home as the interview with a TV station and some google image search revealed later).
So assuming that gamergate really was hate movement, even then her claims would have been false: You can only hate what you know. She was not known in any form. No surprise here considering the quality of her "game" particularly with regards to graphics and character design. It was some tiny crappy indie title among tens of thousands in the play store.

And suddenly she is the center of attention and can reap her victimbux through patreon.

Really, if this does not convince people to how fake and twisted the SJW are, I dont know what will.

Re:Inquiring minds want to know

[K. S. Kyosuke]

Maybe if that happened, these two massive antiparticles would annihilate each other in a flash of clean energy that would solve our global warming issues! At least for a week, that is...

Re: Inquiring minds want to know

[K. S. Kyosuke]

The ultimate anti-Trump defense?

As much as I hate her

[JustAnotherOldGuy]

"If you look at what our Congress is doing for tech, it's failing. It's putting all of us in danger,"

As much as I hate Brianna Wu, I can't disagree with her on this. Almost every other thing she's said, yes, but not this.

We're putting utter incompetents and creation-apologists in charge of critical administration positions dealing with technology (as well as just about everything else, for that matter) and if you think this won't come back to bite us in the ass, you're mistaken.

Re:She's a he.

[AmiMoJo]

It's impossible to criticise any behaviour without being open to accusations of virtue signalling.

Look at Kohath, signalling his virtue, letting everyone know they are firmly anti-virtue signalling, what a virtuous person they must be!

There's a lot anti-putin, too.

[Anonymous Coward]

And, shit, look at all the anti-Saddam people! Not to mention that anti-Hitler is still a huge thing.

So I guess that people who are anti putin/saddam/hitler/stalin/pol pot/et al are just horrible people unfairly against some people who we don't know were as bad as these anti-whoevertheyare people make out, right?

Or maybe people are anti-Brianna for a goddamn reason, hmmm? And not one that is about her minge existing, either.

Vote No On Wu!

[Chas]

Congress ALREADY has enough idiots and head-cases in there.

They do NOT need a complete loon like Wu.

Hasn't decided?

[taustin]

"...hasn't announced which district she wants to represent..."

But she has decided the party she'll be running for: The Carpetbagger Party.

I think we can safely dismiss her as irrelevant.

Sad!

[PopeRatzo]

Brianna Wu just realized that you can make it to the highest office in the land just by being a self-promoting internet troll and she wants to get in on that action.

Re:Anyone still giving a shit?

[Wuhao]

Gamergate was when a bunch of gamers discovered that the biggest, most brutal and highest-stakes eSport in the world is social media. Unfortunately for them, the ultra-left had figured that out way earlier and were way better at it. So then the ultra-left people kept writing kooky leftist shit and calling gamers racist, and gamers kept going nuts over it, and then eventually the rest of the world figured out what was going on with social media too. Then all sense of order or meaning disintegrated, and now Pepe the frog is the face of white nationalism and Donald Trump is President.

I think that should catch you up.

Extensive Technical Knowledge

[bistromath007]

I'm going to fucking die laughing.

At the risk of being modded -5 Troll

[rsilvergun]

I'll say this: The Republican Party are terrorists. I mean that. Literally, and here me out here.

Multiple members of their party were caught saying that they were opposing Obama because they wanted him to fail and the country to be hurt so that the Democrats would be damaged politically when the American people blamed the Dems. This happened repeatedly during his presidency. Meanwhile there were no repercussions or even denouncements from the Republican party leadership.

The goal was to spread fear among the American people to hurt the Democrats politically. What _else_ do you call somebody who uses fear to achieve political ends besides a Terrorist? Seriously, you don't have to be blowing up school buses to commit acts of terror. There are far more insidious (and better) ways.

Re:At the risk of being modded -5 Troll

[Rakarra]

What _else_ do you call somebody who uses fear to achieve political ends besides a Terrorist?

Fearmongering.

Fearmongering is not terrorism. Not even close.
It's not terrorism when the Republicans say the Democrats will bankrupt the country, just like it's not terrorism if Microsoft reps claim Linux use will hurt your company, the GPL is a "viral" license, etcetc. It's FUD. FUD is not terrorism.

Apart from the gender stuff a typical WASHDC story

[dbIII]

Washington DC is full of people with a story a lot like that, and they get gigs on both sides of politics.
It's amazing how many student whiners end up as professional whiners.

Re:Anyone still giving a shit?

[Opportunist]

Why would I want to? That some idiot comic frog is "the face of white nationalism" and that some other idiot is president of the US is enough for me to know that I do not want to catch up. Who knows, I might catch whatever causes that idiocy, too.

Re:GAYmergate

[penandpaper]

Just until the gate-gate-gate-gate controversy...

  it's gates all the way down .

So...

[BitztreamNotARealNam]

How's life in the hypocrite lane?

Interesting Worldview

[dethjester]

"I think transgender people are probably the most persecuted people on the planet". Are you sure you want someone who actually thinks this is true in a position of any importance? sauce: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamer...

Re:Interesting Worldview

[SuiteSisterMary]

Are transgendered persons persecuted? Sure.

Are they the most persecuted people on the planet? Hell no. There are full-on ethnic cleansings going on this very day.

Re:Interesting Worldview

[Uberbah]

Are they the most persecuted people on the planet? Hell no. There are full-on ethnic cleansings going on this very day.

And where those ethnic cleansings are going on - like from US-backed ISIS and Al Qaeda factions in Libya and Syria - those doing the cleansing would put a bullet in the face of any transperson they saw, taking you back to square one.

heckuva job so far

[wept]

her extensive technical knowledge and experience fighting the alt-right and harassment and will be advantageous for a Congressional representative.

Based on the results of her "fighting the alt-right" so far, I assume Bannon & Co will be major donors to her campaign.

Re:GAYmergate

[FatdogHaiku]

... it's gates all the way down .

With luck they'll be strong enough to hold the turtles back...

Can someone delete Wu, Anita, Zoe...

[Z80a]

And replace everything for references to someone that actually deserve it like Roberta Williams?
In terms of real impact on the gaming industry as a whole, a day of work of Ms.Williams was more influential than the whole life of those three combined.

Re:GAYmergate

[penandpaper]

turtle gate? God help us.

so, the Democrats are also "terrorists"?

[Anonymous Coward]

THEY said basically the same stuff re Bush. ALL opposition parties say basically that when they are not running things. Republicans promised to stop Carter. Democrats promised to stop Reagan and Bush41. Republicans promised to stop Bill Clinton. Democrats Pelosi and Reid promised to stop Bush43.

The Democrats, however, did FAR worse than you allege the Republicans did:

In 2007, the Democrat-run Senate (including then-senators Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders) voted to block Bush from having legal authority to reign-in the recklessness at US Government established home mortgage entities "Fannie Mae" and "Freddie Mac" even though the team from the White House warned that the scandal was going to get out of control. EVERY Democrat, and Bernie voted to block Bush, NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES. All four of the mentioned senators got to vote on whether the US economy melted down in 2008 and they ALL voted to burn the house down rather than help Bush. I despise the Bush family for other reasons, but Bush was the ONE PERSON in Washington DC who had NO legal authority to prevent the meltdown and never got to vote on the matter.

By YOUR definition, Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Sanders are TERRORISTS.

Hey look, it's a Karl Rove like Stalinist

[rsilvergun]

Ok, I know that quote's being inflammatory, but it's also true. For those of you wondering, this particular AC is using a classic technique pioneered by Stalin's men and perfected by Karl Rove: Whatever negative traits your party has you accuse the other party of. Then you force the other side to into an argument about how/why they don't have those negative traits instead of hammering down on them for being generally awful in the first place.

Nothing this AC does or says will change the fact that _his_ party committed a willful act of Terror. Full Stop.

Re:Victimhood identity won't work in politics

[Rakarra]

While Trump did his share of bitching, it would be an enormous mistake to think that's the only thing he had going for him in the election.

Re:GAYmergate

[rochrist]

No. It didn't.

Re: GAYmergate

[Meski]

Gatesgate, a Microsoft conspiracy

Re: GAYmergate

[psycheitout]

Lets not forget about the conspiracy that there is a conspiracy about the conspiracy of the white house front gate. The gate-gate,gate-gate. Why doesn't anyone in the news ever talk about what's really going on.

Re:Victimhood identity won't work in politics

[Dread_ed]

Or who claimed or had their adherents claim that any criticism raised against them was based in racism?

Just remember, whenever a politician is speaking, the words they are using are not designed to make sense. They are designed to motivate, to control, and to manipulate. You are acting as if the language used by a politician is actual real English. Don't make that mistake again.

There is a world of difference between

[rsilvergun]

fearmongering and what they did. They actively worked to sabotage the US economy, threatening to shut down the US government at a time when the economy was weak and insighted war with Iran with the Stated goal of damaging the United States so that people would blame the damage on Obama and the Democratic party. They were caught doing this multiple times and only ever called out by the liberal press, Al Jazeer and Maybe the BBC.

See the difference? Fearmongering is when you say scary things. Terrorism is when you take action. They took action. Lots of it. To the determent of all of Americans outside of a wealthy the connected elite they serve.

Re:There is a world of difference between

[Rakarra]

They actively worked to sabotage the US economy, threatening to shut down the US government at a time when the economy was weak and insighted war with Iran with the Stated goal of damaging the United States so that people would blame the damage on Obama and the Democratic party.

Only by the most tortured, left-wing rationalization of events is that anything close to being true. Of course, the Republicans want to take Obama out, he was going to be a "one term President," at least that was their stated goal. "Actively working to sabotage the US economy" is nonsense, and most Republicans will whole-heartedly believe that it is the increasing size of the federal government that is the greatest drain on the economy and the recovery. A government shut down would be worth the pain if it resulted in budget cuts and departmental slashing.

"I don't believe in Republican policies, therefore terrorism" just lessens the word terrorism.

Re: You mean thel PROFESSIONAL victim?

[BarbaraHudson]

She's not a "victim." She had a restraining order against her by the school. She faked some of the tweets that purported to threaten her. She has continually lied about her education, work experience, and qualifications. You do that sort of stupidity often enough, you've painted a huge bulls-eye on yourself and deserve to be called on your bullshit.

She portrays herself as a victim - being a professional victim is how she makes a living now that being a "game designer" went bust. She says she needs the money she makes off patreon to pay someone to remove all the bad tweets people post to her account - but it's been shown that it's far more likely that she's doing it herself since there is nobody in the US with the name of the "person" who is supposedly doing this.

Only fools believe her at this point. And as you can see by going through the posts, there are a lot of us who are not fools. This whole "going to run for the senate" is just more attention- and money-seeking behavior.

Re:GAYmergate

[Pseudonym]

TIRED of all these retards ending anything that they disagree with with a "-gate."

Yeah, fuck Adam Baldwin.