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Voice Is the Next Big Platform, But Amazon Already Owns It (backchannel.com)
Six million homes already have an Amazon device with it Alexa voice assistant -- about 5% of all households. But Backchannel argues that Amazon is already dominating the race to become the operating system for future voice-activated devices, with Forrester tech analyst James McQuivey pointing out that "having microphones in your environment is a lot more convenient than pulling out your phone."
The Alexa-enabled Echo is a true unicorn, one of those rare products that arrives every few years and fundamentally changes the way we live... After years of false starts, voice interface will finally creep into the mainstream as more people purchase voice-enabled speakers and other gadgets, and as the tech that powers voice starts to improve.
Despite competition from Google Home, and a rumored "Home Hub" from Microsoft, Amazon "has a two-year jump on its competition, having first introduced the Echo speaker in November 2014," notes the article, adding that Amazon also "opened its platform early to third-party developers." (Alexa now has more than 5,000 "skills".) They argue that Amazon is already winning the war of the operating systems by familiarizing consumers with "a new computing interface -- a voice devoid of a screen -- that will eventually grow to be more ubiquitous and more useful than our smartphones... Soon, you'll speak your wants into the air -- anywhere -- and a woman's warm voice with a mid-Atlantic accent will talk back to you, ready to fulfill your commands."
Despite competition from Google Home, and a rumored "Home Hub" from Microsoft, Amazon "has a two-year jump on its competition, having first introduced the Echo speaker in November 2014," notes the article, adding that Amazon also "opened its platform early to third-party developers." (Alexa now has more than 5,000 "skills".) They argue that Amazon is already winning the war of the operating systems by familiarizing consumers with "a new computing interface -- a voice devoid of a screen -- that will eventually grow to be more ubiquitous and more useful than our smartphones... Soon, you'll speak your wants into the air -- anywhere -- and a woman's warm voice with a mid-Atlantic accent will talk back to you, ready to fulfill your commands."
Alexa is a dumb bitch.
https://youtu.be/oeNzgwikyYs
While in general I like the idea of a woman fulfilling my every command, I'm not sure it's worth it if she's constantly keeping tabs on me.
I hate using touch screens !
Some remote server listening in on everything I say, filtering every word, analyzing each sentence, etc.
Say one wrong thing, and the appropriate authorities are automatically informed and dispatched automatically. Tax evasion? IRS shows up at your door. Diesel fuel and fertilizer? FBI. Feel like killing your manager who's been driving you nuts all week? Local police.
Sign me up.
I don't understand why none of this stuff operates locally. It's always some remote server in the cloud. I remember having IBM ViaVoice (back then I think it was called "Voice Type Dictation" or "SimplySpeaking") on my goddam Pentium 75mhz computer. After about an hour of training, it would nail mostly everything I said. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that we don't have the hardware resources necessary to perform local speech-to-text and text processing inside your house without ever touching the internet.
Which *IS* a huge market.
Does anyone here in the tech community consider their privacy worth less than the convenience of an always on microphone in your house which could be used by corporate, government, or criminal adversaries to spy on your household?
And if so: Do you also feel that phone, automobile, and public tracking should be enshrined as part of our daily lives?
Or maybe a fad? Who knows.
My brother has one and only uses it to play music and once in a while set an alarm, I'm not convinced it will move past novelty.
(And didn't Apple's Siri have a big head start on all of them? How's that going?)
Six million Alexa installs... compared to?
A billion Apple devices with Siri... http://www.theverge.com/2016/1...
Uh, who owns it again?
Me: Give all my personal information to Amazon.
Alexa: I've already done this. I also noticed you were out of salad dressing, so I ordered you a case of "Bezos' Own" and put it on the 1 month subscribe and save plan.
#DeleteChrome
All i use it for is to ask for the weather and the news
I'll throw money at first company whom can make my house sound like Alan Rickman's Marvin, complete w/personality.
And so eventually I will get one of these new fangled things.
I have no desire to talk to my devices and I definitely don't want them listening to me either.
I spent about 5 minutes playing with Okay Google on my phone and it wasn't very good and about 6 months later it finally responded to some music I was listening to and I realized I had never turned it off.
And it really pisses me off when I am going through some voice prompt system and I can't just press a number for my response - it insists on a voice response. No, we don't speak the same language and your voice recognition system sucks.
I also was very resistant to using a mouse and I also keep a pen and note paper in my desk.
I was wrong about mice I guess - they are actually useful.
But I see know use in these Alexa thingies. I could see getting a sarcastic parody device though. "Hey, Alexis, what's the weather like today?"
"Look out the window, you moron! It's December. It's probably cold. Either that or it's very cold. It might even be snowing!"
Just thinking of some of the commercials I've seen....
1) Alexa, turn off the lights. Okay, haven't we had this technology ever since the Clapper was a thing? Clap On! Clap Off!
2) Alexa, order more tape. Okay, right - like I order so much tape that Alexa knows what brand I buy, what kind I need and I'm not even concerned at all about the price because of course I'm going to get it from Amazon.
3) Alexa, what's the weather like in Miami? If I really cared, I could easily look that up on the internet.
This doesn't even pass the "Wow factor" test let alone the "do I need or even want it?" test.
And I'd be willing to bet that within 5 minutes of getting one I'd be going all Samuel Jackson on it. "English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?"
"Say 'what' one more time! I dare you!"
(read in a woman's warm voice with a mid-Atlantic accent) ...and your computer will listen to everything in mic range. No need for that activity light on the mic/camera; it was operated by proprietary (read: always untrustworthy) software to begin with, and wasn't present on trackers (a more honest name for the devices also known as cell phones, mobile phones). You'll come to expect omnipresent listening, ostensibly waiting for you to give the command to signal that the computer should do something for you so you feel like you're in control. But in reality your computer has been doing something for so many proprietors all along—letting an uncountable number of parties spy on you. Because you brought these devices and services into your home, your car, and your workplace. Revel in the convenience of never really knowing if you're alone.
And don't worry: they're not spying on you for your safety. The spying "feature" works on your tracker, your home computers, and various needlessly Internet-enabled devices like your next refrigerator, a child's toy, a lightbulb socket, and more.
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Now, I'm a person given to sudden outburst. When I drop something heavy on my foot, or knock over something, I'll normally shout "F*ck me!".
I suspect that would be problematical in a voice activated environment and wound not lead to matrimonial harmony.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
Just like MySpace owned social media?
After watching the Alexa ads, I wonder what happens when someone named Alexa (e.g. someone's wife) lives in the area of its use.
Alexa confusion is not a joke (but it attempts to be).
At least that (at least likely) won't happen with Google.
Overall, I still agree with everyone citing the obvious problem in allowing microphones permanently on within a private context generally known as home.
Devices with microphones and cameras that I'm unable to truly validate that I can turn them off have no home with me.
Of course, eventually all devices will have them (because the public at large simply refuses to care about the aforementioned serious risk), so that will make my decision a much more painful one.
Wheee!!! I love the future!
Sines of Impending Sines
Unless I can specifically turn them off (like the google assistant or Cortana), it has no place in my home or personal life.
I don't want some device to always listen to me. They say it only listen for specific keywords, but you just know that's BS, it will obviously listen to everything and show you ads based on it. If not sell that info to the gov or third parties.
Also, the Slashdots captcha are always so on point... This time it's Paranoia.
"Six million homes already have an Amazon device with it Alexa voice assistant -- about 5% of all households." Surely there are more than 120 million households in the world?
I do not understand this Amazon thing it obviously something to do with voice recognition?
I was at a meeting and we had to take notes and at the end of the session we had to hand in our notes to be examined for errors
and there was a word I did not know how to spell. I tried using a Samsung "smart phone" so I am trying to make it spell this word
it said "you can say memo send mum a card. And read the news. What would you like to do. Say hi Galaxy."
BUT you are not allowed to use any technology to complete the document so i am cheating. Bloody smart phone made so much noise and kept on coming back with the wrong word! i could hear people near me s n i g g e r i n g. I ended up using sounds like on a website
http://dictionary.cambridge.or...
Clearly written by someone with a background in marketing, not programming or hardware. Amazon is NOT an operating system, despite what the salesman says. Echo uses FireOS which is a fork of Android. So the operating system that us running voice in the home is controlled by Google,not Amazon. And these folks have still not learned that, with the exception of context specific tasks (like switching room lights on and off) an interface that requires the user to self-generate commands is less useful to the general public than a point and click visual system. This is why most people use a mouse or trackpad rather than the command line.
"He took a duck in the face at 250 knots." -- William Gibson, Pattern Recognition
I live in Berlin. When I explain voice platforms to people, I roughly say: "in former times, they came into your flat, installed mics and even fixed the wallpaper whenever cabling was necessary. When you were back in, all was done and clean. *All costs where taken up by the state*".
These days you gotta pay for it. And you gotta fix the cabling mess yourself. Now tell me Socialism was worse!
Google won.
Google knows where I live, work, where airport is if I travel, what flight I am, when restaurants in my area close etc.
All the geeks in my IT department say OK Google when does X close? Or OK Google how far is X when looking at traffic while we drive. Amazon already lost and I see no value in such a device. Our phones know all the information based on habits and can even track traffic
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Why are there always articles on here claiming that Alexia is successful? it isnt.
What low-IQ niggre would willingly install devices around his house that monitor everything he says?
Scotty says, "Computer?"
Microsoft is still trying to live in its halcyon days when it seemed Microsoft could kill competition's products just by announcing that they had a similar product in beta.
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If it weren't for Microsoft's stranglehold on corporate computing, Microsoft would have been a footnote by now...
Tried it out at a friends house. Simple questions like "Did it snow yesterday" could not be answered. I asked it to play a certain song from a very niche artist, instead I got some mainstream country song. I also do not like the idea of a device that always listens. I'm afraid that this is however going to become the norm eventually.
What makes you think that smartphone in your shirt pocket is waiting for a "wake word?" They're ALWAYS listening!
The power isn't so much in the hardware but the data of thousands that trains it. Kind of hard to duplicate locally.
This battle has already been lost. Cameras are everywhere and growing in number. Everything you do or say on the internet is parsed now. Your data is stolen on a regular basis. I've had Amazon Echo since the beginning and it is integrating itself into my life skill by skill. What's the weather? What's my commute time? What's on my calendar? Put this on my calendar. Buy this; buy that. (I have a mountain of TP sent by just telling her to buy it since it is already on my list, for example) Music. Lights control. Heat and air. And more skills are coming. She learns things using AI. When it comes to my car I'll have it even better. Put down that crank mentality and get a car with a starter.
E Proelio Veritas.
I don't understand why none of this stuff operates locally. It's always some remote server in the cloud. I remember having IBM ViaVoice (back then I think it was called "Voice Type Dictation" or "SimplySpeaking") on my goddam Pentium 75mhz computer. After about an hour of training, it would nail mostly everything I said. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that we don't have the hardware resources necessary to perform local speech-to-text and text processing inside your house without ever touching the internet.
The problems are scaling it up and the finer small details.
Regarding speech :
Modern offline text-to-speech technology is able to handle about 95% accuracy. (Being able to feed back based on past context to tell which homophone makes more sense, etc.) /. and especially outside of steno communities), they can mostly speak what they want and only fix here and there (only a single word every 20. Or about a word every 2-3 sentences).
- Which is damn cool already (it's only 1 in 20 words that need to be fixed ! Fucking impressive !!!)
- And is pretty useful to dictate toughs for those people who speak faster than they type (i.e.: most random joe six-pack outside
- But that's completely useless on the scale of things which are required for Siri- / Alexa- / Cortana- / Whatever- type of constant speech flux of commands. The point is to completely do away with keyboard and mouse. Not to have to pull out a keyboard (or pull out your smartphone out of your pocket) to correct every third sentence you speak to your home assistant.
The only practical application would be speaking in robotic rigid sentences. "Military-type radio speak" rigidity
(Strict word ordering: "[name], [order: [verb] [noun] ]". Fixed protocols : AI should ack what it understood and ask for confirmation "[user], you ask me to [verb] the [noun] ?", and user should confirm/correct "Yes do it [=fixed sentence] / No [=fixed sentence], [followed by new order]")
That is the kind of speech protocol that leaves very few ambiguity and risks of error (that's why it's used by military, law enforcement, catastrophe responders, or simply people working outdoor with very noisy radio conditions - ski teacher of a club spread accross mountains in my personnal experience).
That could work nearly flawlessly with modern tech.
But it is very far from the "having a casual discussion with your assistant" experience that most companies are wanting to sell.
To reach that level of fluent conversation, current experience shows (100% fully autonomous real-time text subtitling, 100% fully autonomous real-time translation, etc.) that you needs several orders magnitude more accuracy (think 99.9% accuracy. Only one missed word every thousand. Or in practice an error every day or so). And due to the law of diminishing returns, that means fuck-tons more of processing power. Several data-centers worth of processing in your basement.
(Don't believe me ? Look at youtube auto-generated subtitles. And Google certainly throws more processing power at them than simply a desktop computer).
And all the above is only about *parsing* the speech (i.e.: getting the speech-to-text accurate enough). Then you need to make *sense* out of the speech.
Again, with modern technology, making the system react to a bunch of preset command is trivial (the kind where you write a plug-in to get new commands supported) and could probably be handled on raspberry pi.
But again the things that these companies are trying to sell to random users are much more complex : "Having a natural conversation with your assistant".
That require three things : ...coupled with analysis of reject / mis-interpreted command... (most probably by huma
- tons more of processing (good bye, raspberry pi)
- tons more of reference data (much more than a few commands that the user has custom pre-configured)
- fuck ton of data gathering... (recording every command spoken by every user)
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Notice how this post and referenced article don't say a word about the actual capabilities of the device does, or how happy customers are with it, it just says "voice is the next big thing" and Amazon is the best. I'm not taking sides here, it's just that it will take a hell of a lot more time and effort to make this type of AI work.
"Despite competition from Google Home, and a rumored "Home Hub" from Microsoft, Amazon "has a two-year jump on its competition..." That isn't the issue at all...not at all. Google and Microsoft have both satisfactorily established that they are pederasts, here to sell YOU to their buddies for profit. Anyone who trusts them in their home alone with the kids is short a few marbles and will be shorter more than marbles in the years ahead. Amazon and Apple are the only two remaining major technical players who have "benefit of the doubt" remaining. Yes, they make money by selling you....but they are not selling YOU, if you get the distinction. Google said "don't be evil" but they only said that to get you to let your guard down. Then Larry made a quick move on your wife while Schmidt stuck his hand down your kid's pants (yeah, they have infiltrated the school system, too). Microsoft well...anyone who trusted Microsoft after the mid 90s was probably born after the mid 90s and got another wakeup call with Bing, Windows10 etc. Anyway, these two companies do NOT have your best interests in mind and too many people know that, already, for them to be successful putting a microphone and maybe camera 24/7 in the the average home. Android and Win10 are bad enough on the privacy abuse scale to thoroughly discredit their .... "good will".
Anyway, that is really why Amazon can succeed with this microphone in the home move: they are a *retail* store and not a pederast nor pimp wanna-be. At least that is their public perception so far until or unless they go too far. Apple could also have a shot in this market, although it is harder to establish their legitimacy as a "benefit of the doubt" intermediary in the home.
Google changed their name to Alphabet in large part because they realized their reputation as utilizing trust AGAINST those who previously trusted them had, shall we say, soured their opportunities for future "scores". But I think Alphabet is a simple enough name for me to follow, no matter how many other brand names they try to hide behind.
Microsoft and Google, and Facebook as well, have little hope of becoming serious contenders in the home microphone business. It is purely Amazon's territory to lose....let's see if they can keep it. I have my doubts Amazon will keep their trusted 3rd party status given Bezos' seemingly unending ambition to be all things...including questionable things....including the Washington Post!
It's very important to realize that while this is true right now, it may not remain true. Hardware and algorithms tend to improve. We know with absolute certainty that such a result is possible — because humans can do it. Personally, I am of the opinion that hardware/software will get there, and not too long from now, either, but it is just an IMHO.
Prior to that, however, for any one device, the problem is not recognizing millions of different voices, but just a few. One possible approach superior to the present one would be to initially use the computing capacity of the cloud to figure out what the requirements are for local recognition of those few voices are, then download that much more limited recognition capability -- and incremental improvements to it - into the local device as the device requires it. Such a progressively increasing localized approach would considerably reduce the load on the cloud, which means it presents an excellent business case for adoption if it can be implemented in a practical manner (and I'm quite sure it is practical, or could be made to be practical.)
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Apart from the fact that both Amazon Echo and Google Home are Internet-connected listening devices, they just don't work very well. Recognition is still quite imperfect, there is no notion of a dialog or context with these devices, and extensibility and interoperability is at the whim and business convenience of the companies making these devices.
Speech recognition and AI should function be local, not cloud-based; they shouldn't be tied to one or the other "ecosystem", and they should be locally extensible. And they need to work better than the overpriced, underperforming, bloated gadgets Google and Amazong are shipping. A company that delivers that may "own" voice. Right now, Amazon owns the voice market in the same way Chiapet owns the pet market: its product is related to the real market in name only.
"having microphones in your environment is a lot more convenient than pulling out your phone."
I'm sure the NSA/CIA/FBI would agree wholeheartedly.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I don't know about you, but most people are already carrying a device with these exact capabilities (except it generally has much more powerful hardware):
The smartphone.
o Microphone
o High powered multicore CPU
o Always-on connection to the net
Yep, check, check, and check.
But wait, there's more!
o Video camera
o Redundant location hardware (GPS and tower-triangulation)
o Motion sensors
o Significant on-board storage capacity for offline buffering
o Already known to be a target of government surveillance efforts
Check-check-check-check-check.
And mate.
Resisting the Echo because "then I would have hardware nearby that might listen to me" is an act of self-delusion. This game has already been played out. The hardware is uniformly emplaced, and you couldn't get most people to let go of it without a gun directly in their face.
The only actual difference between you without an Echo, and me with one, is I get to do a wide range of things more easily than you do. Unless, of course, you don't carry a cellphone. In which case there are many more things I can do that you can't, but yes, no hardware is capable of always listening to you. That can only happen when you're around other people with a cellphone. And you live in a cave, so that never happens... right?
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Exactly, and when you get to Valhalla, you'd better have got that right, or no feasting for you, thrall.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Voice won't come to the home until there is a hybrid system between home and industry. One where most of the voice processing is in the home as well as the "A.I." that will decide how to interpret what you said. The home system will understand the "gist" and consult corporate systems depending upon your "privacy" settings.
We've seen this before. Not Alexa, but the paranoia that new tech brings.
When telephones began to intrude into ordinary homes there was panic. My father was an insurance salesman (think 'Death of a Salesman') and had to install a telephone so customers could reach him. I clearly remember being at the dinner table when the phone would ring. Everyone froze in place, fork halfway to mouth. Dad would nod his head toward Mom, indicating that she should get it. Mom indicated 'No way! That's your customer.' - both were afraid of the phone. This was common in most homes.
Later, the same thing happened with the invention of the Answering Machine. Many a macho gentleman proudly proclaimed 'I'm not gonna talk to a machine!', while covering the fact that they were actually afraid of it.
The graphical interface and mouse introduced with the Mac caused howls of scorn from true macho geeks. No respectable hacker would stoop so low. A few still quiver in fear of new approaches, new modalities.
Let this be the model for your transition to ubiquitous microphones. Pretend to hate them. If you do this with enough vigor, nobody will realize that you are actually afraid of them.
...omphaloskepsis often...
I never oder anything from Amazon. Or maybe once or twice per decade.
I also don't really listen to music (or anything else) at home. I enjoy the silence, after being inundated by sounds and voices all day around at work.
And I certainly don't want everything I say being transmitted to a server at some place and having it influence the products I get presented on my next visit to that web-page (or other web-pages, via ads and cookies).
People whose lives literally revolve around shopping online or offline should really question if they're making the most of it - and whether they'd fall in a depression if they for some reason couldn't do that anymore.
Windows 2000 - from the guys who brought us edlin
"having microphones in your environment is a lot more convenient than pulling out your phone"
The phone in my pocket is still better than the Alexa in a different room or downstairs...
This is a technology that people think they want when it is science fiction but as soon it is actually real no one cares.
You may recall some of the ploys used by Captain Kirk when dealing with a wayward computer. Mr. Spock found his approach puzzling. Basically, Kirk would ask the computer a question that had no logical reply. (darn, I can't think of one at the moment, but how 'bout "Everything I say is a lie..." followed by "I love you!", etc.) At any rate, the computer would stutter confusedly and always end in a satisfying cloud of smoke.
An excellent question to ask Alexa would be "Why does the porridge bird lay his egg in the air?" Google's brain has already seen this question but hasn't found the answer.
...omphaloskepsis often...
IMO, Amazon "owns" the market the same way Palm, and then Microsoft, owned the PDA segment back then, or Blackberry for smartphones: they had it all, didn't make it good enough to be mainstream, and then Apple came and in 24 hours it was over for the other 2.
Amazon very well might keep its lead, but someone who does it better faster could come and steal it all.
I'm making my own - a LAN of things, here on my mostly off-grid homestead, as I have no need to change or monitor things from away from here - I'm retired and live in the boonies, but really, a robot to keep the woodstove going correctly is probably not in my immediate future anyway. I could, I suppose, if I carried a connected device with me all the time (I don't, and I don't go out often, as it's 30 mi round trip to the nearest store of any kind) and do things via emails or something, but the need for that is so tiny it's not on my radar. Running my solar system with backups is. Running the water collection system is. Warning me when my plumbing might freeze is. The idea in my case is to have a life in many ways similar to those who are rent-bound wage slaves, without those two disadvantages in live (having been there too). There's a lot I'll accept in order not to have to kiss butt all the time, even a "lower" standard of living, or to euphemize, living a little closer to the earth.
It's not that I don't like tech. I have way more than most do here, and made my fortune that let me retire at ~ age 45 with it. It's that I do like having control over my own life. Playing with tech is fun, even at > age 65. Having it own you? C'mon. I own my stuff, not the other way around.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
These devices are target-marketed to dumb, depraved, desperate, and lonely males. Female LEOs (law enforcement officers) generally regards this type of male as among the lowest-hanging fruit, and use these devices, & the data harvested from the "cloud", to gaslight these males to pathological extremes. If you've ever seen a cat catch a mouse, & then "toy" with it before killing it...
it's mostly not the early bird that catches the worm in the tch-world. besides, amazon (or google) is not the type of company, people trust to listen to their conversations 24/7
voicefaq.com and voicqanda.com are for sale..Great domains to start widely used voice services..
actually...recent studies have shown that voice is whack
Leaving alone the privacy concerns with always on, internet connected, internet flash updateable devices with microphones in your home, does anybody see a downside with setting a non-owner voice trained voice recognition device down next you you television that is constantly airing, "Alexa, buy me expensive hardware!" commercials illustrating how easy it is to buy stuff using just your voice? What about if I drive around we a PA system instructing Alexa and Google Home to buy stuff? Remember all the prank suggestions for shouting at google glass to display goatse? What could possibly go wrong?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Right. Yes. That's a real thing. A few years ago Slashdot was basically a macro for Microsoft=FUD.
Now, FUD seems to be universal. They're listening all the time! !!!!!1111one111!!;
No, they're not. If they were most of what would be hearing would be banal nonsense. No. One. Cares.
There's no Stasi. Try it. Alexa, I'd like to crush the Western infidels and raise a caliphate.
Nothing will happen.
If you think Amazon is really listening then you're deluded and basically shouting to anyone younger to get off your lawn.
Yes, obviously I'm a shill. Grow up.
Anyone remember Galaxy Quest, where there was a running joke that Sigourney Weaver's only job was to repeat questions to the computer, then repeat back to the crews whatever the computer's response was? I just watched a TED talk that suggested that was the most valuable position on the ship, that in the future our pay will be based on how well we interact with powerful AI that will be running everything. 100 years ago being able to work well with a horse was important, in 20 years being able to work well with an AI will be just as important. So look at it this way: Siri, Alexa, Google Home, Cortana, et al are training people for the future! First lesson: if the voice recognition isn't specifically trained to your voice, then you need to talk like a national television news anchor to minimize the probably of it misunderstanding your words.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
So just as Yahoo once owned the search space and MySpace the sweet spot now occupied by Zuckerberg, Amazon already "owns" the voice operated OS space? Incidentally the 5% figure looks mighty suspicious, is this the global stats or just the "American" figures? Is owning the American market (Apple) the same as owning the global market (Android)?
Amazon doesn't own the space, they just showed it exist. They've done such a horrible job of it and it's STILL taken off.
Any number of other actors should be able to move into this space. It's home automation -- not centralized, and thus in no real danger of getting monopolized by one actor.
Amazon's responses are terrible.
The alarms cannot carry information.
It cannot find music and continually pushes you to samples of products rather than favoring responses where the whole thing could be played.
it doesn't allow vocabulary extensions (she ghettoises add-ons in a separate linguistic space).
it doesn't allow easy additions of things you need in your own home.
It doesn't store state.
It doesn't learn -- you cannot criticize responses or correct it.
it (and this is critical) doesn't have multi-device support.
Amazon has a myopic view of the world: they see every product as a selling tool, not an end in itself. This is a MASSIVE weakness.
Any number of other actors could walk in and mop the floor with Amazon. And there's room for a number of such actors.
The voice recognition component is the only annoying part of such projects. Look for some middle-ware company to step in and provide this for everyone. If google were smart, it would be them. They'd also provide APIs for all their services including music subscriptions and Nest. This would allow them to be the big fish where a bunch of companies provide hardware and linguistic constructions.
riding around on anti-gravity lounge chairs and sipping Brawndo while talking to a non-existent persona or Hunger Games. People need to be able to make change at the corner store. what? never mind. Our implanted MicroAmaGoo 666 chip will handle all purchases - no money or plastic needed. The next couple of years will reveal the future.
I am very vocal about pirating. The RIAA/MPAA aren't knocking on my door. I also give out data about me like crazy. As long as they get all that other data about you they will determine that you are generally harmless and not bother you.
We have two laptop computers with built-in microphones and so forth. Have anything for personal computers hooked to microphones to pass them to back ends. Jasper is for Raspberry Pis.
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Privacy only makes you an uncertainty and is certain to get you killed.
I'm waiting for them to allow you to specify your own personal phone wake up/get attention call. "Jaffa, kree!"
Anyone who doesn't contribute to the zeitgeist is an unknown and too big a risk to let live.
No, what everyone is ignoring is the obvious problem of not allowing recording 24/7. The writers of the likes of 1984 never realized that the real risk is the people who create black spaces, and how easy it is for "big brother" to detect blackou spaces. Talk of violently changing the system won't get you harmed too much if you do it openly in the near future. You'll just be adjusted and redirected much less than the expected reeducation camps. The real threat are the easily detected blackout zones. What happens there is an unknown and anything that is unknown is the one truly unacceptable risk to the systems of the future.
Cortana on the phone is good for transferring things on the phone like messages or battery low, or maybe calendar to the computer and packages.
Jasper is for Raspberry Pis.
Jasper is for Linux. They just happen to use it on Pis. It should work on any variant of Linux. They even include instructions for Arch.
It's written in Python so it could work on *BSD, OS X and Windows as well depending on how they hook into the Audio subsystem.
If you want to go Big there's Lucida which is designed for corporations and self hosting. (Research project at University of Michigan)
The main language in our house isn't English. I'm guessing that Amazon's cloud processing isn't going to get beyond 5-6 languages for a few years. Not sure what my point is, but this magic future (for what it's worth) isn't going to happen for everybody.
My experience with Amazon devices is that they will have Echo favor Amazon services at some point, and its use will decline. Amazon seems to do that will all of the hardware they produce.