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Google Contemplating Removing Chrome 'Close Other Tabs' and 'Close Tabs to the Right' Options (bleepingcomputer.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Chrome engineers are planning to remove two options from Chrome that allow users to quickly close a large number of tabs with just a few clicks. The options, named "Close other tabs" and "Close tabs to the right" reside in the menu that appears when a user right-clicks on a Chrome tab. According to an issue on the Chromium project spotted yesterday by a Reddit user, Google engineers planned to remove to menu options for many years even before opening the Chromium issue, dated itself to July 31, 2015. After several years of inactivity and no decision, things started to move again in September 2016, when usage statistics confirmed that Chrome users rarely used the two options they initially wanted to remove. Seeing no new discussions past this point, Chromium engineers assigned the issue in February, meaning engineers are getting ready to remove the two menu options it in future Chromium builds.
As someone who tends to open new links in a new tab and who ends up with a dozen or so open, I've always found those options to be very useful, especially the 'Close Tabs to the Right' one. I'm not sure why Google would want to get rid of them - the options hardly seem like a security risk or a burden on processor or RAM resources. I'll miss them if they do disappear.
Vertical tabs.
They can take my LifeAlert pendant when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
I can't be the only person who uses these on a regular basis.
Unless...I am.
Mind. Blown.
No, seriously. Is usage that rare? Because I do use these a lot. ..bruce..
Bruce F. Webster (brucefwebster.com)
I mean, who closes tabs anyway. I have over 300 open right now.
Edge, here I come...
That's actually a feature I tend to use quite often, especially when researching something - when I finally find the page that (best) tells me what I want to know, I can get rid of all the others that led me there. What exactly is the horrible horrible overhead that the maintainers have to put up with to keep these features in the main branch?
Meanwhile, another thing that drives me crazy is that Chrome will close a window with 19 active tabs without a single complaint. At least Firefox will ASK if you want to close a window with multiple tabs. But in Chrome, a single brainfart/mouso will cost you bigly.
put the "reopen the last closed tab" into the command bar.
Yes, I know there's a keyboard command. But just as certain is that the moment I accidentally close a tab, I won't remember it because I don't need it THAT often.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I'll surely use it until it's removed.
Anyone still using Chrome should have long since resolved to using a mostly featureless browser. If you are looking for features, you probably should be looking more at using Palemoon or another browser maintained by another small group. Once a browser seems to hit critical appeal, features start getting stripped out because your grandparents might fuck something up.
How about they enable multiple tab rows first?
"I wish it were as simple as deprecating islam"
I don't. Along with similar concepts. And Islam isn't a thing.
Assuming that those options aren't problems from the code maintenance or security points of view, and if users haven't complained about them, then why remove them? I'm sure some people use them; in Pale Moon I have Tab Mix Plus set up to handle tabs in a way that most users would never even think of, and honestly, I'd be lost without it.
I know it's heresy to suggest that Chrome might actually be configurable to suit individual needs and tastes; that said, why can't they they just have a preferences setting to show or hide those items? There's a difference between taking the lowest common denominator into account, and catering exclusively to it; and I'm tired of features being stripped away from both software and hardware because the average non-demanding user isn't sufficiently sophisticated to make use of them.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
I'll probably use them a LOT. I often end up with 40+ tabs open from thinking I'll come back to something. Here's hoping they change their minds.
How can I keep up with replies to my Slashdot comments if I can't quickly closed out the tabs I've already looked at?
The people who use these features, like me, are the same people who turn off telemetry back to Google, so Google thinks no one uses the features.
And Islam isn't a thing.
Please say that publicly in Malaysia. Please. Pretty please :-)
As with anyone else, that just makes them mad.
Those two options are so useful, but I've been waiting for them to fill in the obvious remaining choices:
- Close tabs to the left
- Close this tab and tabs to the right/left (this is two options)
- Close odd numbered tabs
- Close tabs I don't want my Boss/Mom to see (shortcut keys: Ctrl+Ctrl+Ctrl+Ctrl)
- Close tabs with numbers in the Fibonacci sequence
- Close tabs with pages originating in travel ban countries
- Close tabs except those with numbers on my lucky number list (default values will be provided)
Google takes their users to be a bunch of moronic infants. Why remove a feature? Ever?? Especially one that has been working fine for years. Oh right... because you don't want to confuse and upset the fragile minds of your users, you can barely manage to use one button on mouse. OK, so that's not for me.
Might makes right irrelevant.
Probably made by the same people that decided to shut down google reader.
Removing features simply because they're not used by everyone every single day never made sense to me. Even if it is something only a very small percentage of users use, so what? It's not like you have to write that code again every time you compile. It just sits there minding its own business. Leave it alone and mind your own business. It doesn't affect any other work, so why remove it? To save a few bytes of memory? We all have nine zillion memories now. Who cares? Some people use it. And if more people knew about it they'd probably use it, too.
Most people power on their machine, use the web browser, and office apps. That doesn't mean it would be beneficial to stop making all other programs just because most people don't use them. Same thing.
" when usage statistics confirmed that Chrome users rarely used the two options they initially wanted to remove"
The bigger issue he is Google is spying on you. Did they bother to ask you to track your usage of Chrome? Seriously, fuck off Google.
Real men let the tabs close themselves. Typically after you get more than 1200 of them open and your computer runs out of all available RAM and the entire OS craps itself and then reboots. THAT's the way manly men close tabs.
And the really manly manly men then restore the previous chrome session when the computer is back up and running.
Wow! Thats going to blow away my power research pattern.
Open two pages worth of google results i.e. 20 tabs,
find the few I need, drag them to the far left and close all tabs to right.
Owwwch!!!
The flaw in the logic is that "rarely use" is not the same as "would be fine if it didn't exist". The reasons for removing the feature look bogus to me in that they seem to satisfy an aesthetic quality that the developers want rather than provide any benefit to the users of the browser.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
I have been slowly transitioning to Firefox, and I use those options often, so this is the kick I needed to just move to Firefox and make that my default browser.
Sheesh, i would prefer if they just got rid of the X on the tab? I inadvertently close tabs I have open because there is an X on each tab. Get rid of it. I will do a Ctl+w if I am done, or just close the entire browser. The X i feel eats up real estate, and is an annoyance.
Remove Nazis instead.
Learn the power of "and".
I'd like to remove all hateful political ideologies, even those wrapped in religious trappings.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Make it so the thing that asks you if you want to save the password saves the password if you click "yes".
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Errm, there is no search option in the context menu, so why would people be clicking print in the context menu when they want to search?
Quite often I want to "print" a page to PDF. But I suppose, to me it's a moot point as long as we still have the keyboard shortcuts that I rely on instead. I didn't even know where in the context menu Find and Print are located. For find, I'm going to be typing what I want to find anyway, so I might as well use the keyboard shortcut to start the search.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." [Thomas Jefferson]
Although I eventually switched back to Firefox, when they finally added this critical feature, the ability to "close all to the right" was the main reason I used Chrome for several years before that. I use it at least 10 times a day. I will never again use a browser without it.
If this feature can be reproduced with a simple extension, no big deal.
Probably very few people used this feature, so it makes sense to remove it. For those the few who did use it, this is what extensions are for.
For instance, I like using backspace to go to the previous page. Apparently is pissed some people off so Google removed it. Found an extension to re-enable it, everybody's happy.
Of course there is, but it's in the context menu for text selection. Quite useful for looking up name or specific phrases from a page you're reading.
I don't have a sig.
To whom it may concern...
There's an utterly mind-blowing, revolutionary notion called "customization".
There are ancient rumors that before the coming of the return of the Great Dark Apple, people that used shit used to have options on how to do so. Ye, let it be known that you can also give users the option to turn on or off certain UI elements instead of just removing them...so it is written in the ancient texts.
Totally off-topic here, but I just want to say that I appreciate you using the phrase "moot point" as opposed to "mute point." Such a rare thing to see someone use the phrase correctly. Kudos.
That's because the RSS dropdown feeds have an item 'open all' which I click inadvertently and sudddenly I have 10 tabs opening up. So closing everything to the right would be useful then.
Of course I'd also be happy if that 'open all' option were removed...
What's that thing over there on the wall?
The fire exit?
Yeah the fire exit. I never see anyone use that ugly thing. Board it up.
But I've heard of people using it...
My studies have shown that only 1% of buildings ever use their fire exits! Board it up now and give it a nice white paint job! White is more interesting than color.
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
TL/DR: If you want to close tabs to the right: shift click the rightmost tab, press ctrl-W.
Ctrl-click on a tab to "select" it, without losing your current selection.
Shift-click to select select a group of tabs.
You can drag any set of tabs out of the current browser.
Enjoy!
Can we move the spell check correction to the context menu option closest to the mouse instead of the one farthest away?
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
Honestly, this is one of the features which makes me keep using Chrome. Especially "Close tabs to the right" which allows me to drag the tab where I want and get rid of the stuff I just wanted to take a glance at.
I really, REALLY hate the trend towards full-screen, single-page browsing with videos enabled by default. It's beginning to feel a lot like "channel surfing"
And leave America without a president?
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Tabs are an overly simplistic way to track and manage "views". In browsers and in IDEs I encounter daily a situation where I created too many of them and they loose their meaning to me. I wished there was a better way to organize "views" in a more scalable way, while also preserving the history of their creation. I want to be able to navigate them by keyboard (and mouse).
You know, I've been using almost nothing but Chrome for many years (at least 5), and somehow I never really noticed them there..I only read the context menus *for* something that I'm looking for.. I never notice all the other drivel on those context menus...
I've never understood this incessant NEED these days to keep reducing user options and control over their own tools and experience. We are devolving into a pool of the lowest (dumbest) common denominator at break neck speed.
They used to do some hand-waving with excuses about reducing unnecessary cpu load etc etc but every time you see them cutting things that have no negative effect on anything and then adding things which are totally off-mission and DO hit the cpu hard you can see that it's all BS.
They are treating projects that are meant to cater to many peoples needs as if they (the devs) are the only ones who will ever use them and as such are making permanent changes in the same way users would make personal customization choices for themselves alone. Totally out of context and selfish in the extreme.
It's an option I use daily (on Edge) and would really miss if it were to be removed.
Google engineer scratches nose before sipping on coffee.
Requiem for the American Dream
This is a "power user" feature, and power users tend to switch off analytics. Maybe it looks like the feature is getting used much less than it actually is.
Seriously. Can't use backspace to go back. Can't customize much of anything. And now this.
I get that people click it accidentally, but that's no reason to remove it. Do what they did on Android and have the option, but provide an undo for a few seconds after it's clicked.
Does is cost extra electricity to keep the 2 options on?
As someone who's used Chrome every day for the last five years - I had to right click on the tab to see what menu options this article talking about. I've never used them, never needed them and never known they're there.
If you use tabbed browsing properly (one window per subject, one tab per page) you would never need to close "all windows but this" or "all windows right of this" - and if you do, how hard is it to tear the primary tab out then close the remaining window with your unneeded tabs.
It seems usage statistics indicate most users share this view.
Heading should read: "After collecting usage statistics for almost two years, Chrome developers decide to remove two unnecessary menu options."
No? So what exactly is it?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You should of written koudou's.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Yep. Every time I see a post about Chrome and Tabs, I point out that Firefox is my daily driver because of the TreeStyleTabs plug in.
Chrome used to have vertical tabs, but some engineer took it out because he thought no one used it (because is was in some hard to find config setting... duh)
I usually have 40-50 tabs open at once, and there is no way I will do that on a browser not supporting vertical tabs.
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99% of the time, I like to go back through the tabs to check they aren't important before closing. It only takes a few extra seconds and can save more than that in pain and annoyance.
Perhaps it is still "news for nerds", but I am not sure this can still qualify as "stuff that matters"
Your spelling it wrong.
lucm, indeed.
It's a stupid idea. Why am I not surprised?
Why do companies, particularly Google in this case, remove basic options and features in software as if it is costing them money.
Google particular seems to shut down small-mid size projects that can be incredibly useful and profitable.
Two examples:
1. Google Movie Showtimes...this was great, it was a nationwide very accurate movie showtime page that was a feature on Google...it didn't require much maintenance once it was already built. Also, they still have to have staff working on movie results...except they now use a Netflix-like side scroller that requires a user to click to get more info.
2. Google Wave...it could have been Slack. Slack is exactly Google Wave only with a polished interface. How much is Slack valued at right now again?
Thank you Dave Raggett
...It'll be the last time I use Chrome.
They recently took away my ability to hit backspace to go back a page. Now I have to use Alt+another key to do what I took just one to do. I had to install an extension to put that feature back.
Now mind you, I can understand why most people don't use those features. But then again they're not the same sort of users as I am. As others are. There are people who will open dozens of tabs to compare things or to have multiple sources of information available. Then when it's no longer needed...we close the other tabs and call it a job done.
For example. I'll look at a dozen sites to provide references for things that I say on discussion forums. Once I'm done with my post and I no longer need those tabs and want to go and look at another discussion topic, I'll "close other tabs" and go on my way.
I'd hate to have to click over and over and over when there is a simple way to do it.
The only thing that will keep me with Chrome is if someone creates an extension to put back what Chrome takes away.
-- Wiccan Army, 13th Airborne Division "We will not fly silently into the night"
We have clear laws on Presidential succession due to the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. Alas, that would give us President Orrin Hatch, which I'm not sure is an improvement. (Mike Pence and Paul Ryan would be ineligible.) I find many of Hatch's positions distasteful but I don't think he qualifies for the other N-word.
Is idiocy a thing like all other things?
You tell me. If Islam is a thing then it is nothing different than all the other things.
Not sure where you're going with that. As for as I can tell, people often consider it an insult if you lower something like that to the level of a thing.
Like most religions it can be interpreted as such, and like most religions it can also be interpreted and used as a political tool to motivate hate.
It would rid the world of an idiot.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
"Odds are, people who use advanced features are more likely to turn data harvesting off. Thus making those metrics questionable. Then again, anyone who is opposed to being monitored is not part of the Google's target audience."
Sounds likely, AC. But here is Google's mistake. There is a sort of hierarchy or pyramid of users for many application. In rough percentages:
* 1% of users might become superusers making plugins and doing all sorts of fancy things with an application.
* 10% of users might become knowledgeable about what you can do with an app and provide support and encouragement for their friends (and also rely on the 1% for support and new features like plugins).
* 89% as all the rest just use the app and ask the 11% for help.
If you decide to design your platform for the 89%, you alienate all the people up the pyramid who provide free support and evangelism for the product and who guide the product in new directions. As Eric von Hippel at MIT has done studies showing that most (like 80%) of innovations are customer suggestions; so, you also cut yourself off from customer-led innovation.
I'm really going to miss "close tabs to the right" which I use frequently (and yes I have telemetry turned off too). If there is not a plugin possible for that, removing that feature is definitely going to reduce my liking of Chrome (which I use on a Chromebook). Now, maybe by itself that one change won't make me abandon Chrome (as if there are many great alternatives with Firefox/Mozilla fiascos) -- but, add up enough of these misguided decisions, and the odds will continue to change.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
rong actually.