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PC Market Could Return To Growth in 2019 (betanews.com)
IDC's latest Worldwide Quarterly Personal Computing Device Tracker offers new insight as to why the firm believes the PC market is set for a growth period a few years from now. From a report: Detachable tablets such as Microsoft's Surface line and Apple's iPad Pro will lead the growth as consumers have turned away from laptops in favor of these more versatile computing devices. Last year, 21.5 million of these devices were shipped and the number of units sold could reach as high as 45.9 million in 2021. Notebook computers and mobile workstations are another category that will see continued growth with shipments rising from 156.8 million units in 2016 to 163.7 million by the year 2021. Desktop computers are still decreasing in popularity and that trend is likely to continue with their sales predicted to decrease by 15 million a year leading up to 2021.
The Surface is going to start selling? Give me a break.
With actual improvements in recent desktop CPUs people might see a reason to upgrade again.
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I'm so tired of that typical two-sided pointless american political bullshit. I'd take the moo guy or the app guy instead of this crap.
So why the freakin' Android icon for this thread? Fanboy much?
Android and iOS are not Personal Computers. Windows, macOS, Linux, BSD, etc are what makes a real computer.
I'd pick a Raspberry Pi 3 running Linux over an iPad.
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Detachable tablets such as Microsoft's Surface line and Apple's iPad Pro will lead the growth as consumers have turned away from laptops in favor of these more versatile computing devices.
Surface Pro perhaps. But I don't see how an iPad Pro, constrained by the App Store Review Guidelines, is "more versatile" than a PC that can run anything. In particular, the ban on time-limited free trials has hindered ports of applications from macOS to iOS. And even if you stick to free applications, it'll cost you $499 extra if you want to be able to compile them from source because loading applications onto an iPad Pro requires a Mac, which starts at $499.
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How about the Seinfeld Sex Scene guy? He's been pretty good lately.
Android and iOS are not Personal Computers. Windows, macOS, Linux, BSD, etc are what makes a real computer.
To me, a "personal computer" is a device where the person who owns it controls what computing is done. By this definition, I agree with you about an iOS device not paired to a Mac. But once the AIDE app is installed on an Android device, it can edit, compile, and run applications from source without the help of any other computer. So how is a tablet running Android 6 or 7 any less of a personal computer than a laptop running FreeBSD 11, Xubuntu 16.04, or Windows 10?
How the hell is a tablet or other "smart" device with it's nifty camera and bucket o' apps more versatile than a laptop running a full operating system that has the capability of actually installing software packages from hundreds of different vendors and can be customized considerably more from both the software and hardware standpoint?
I think the only thing we're becoming more versatile at doing is accepting the fact that consumers have become idiots when it comes to technology, and even a full-fledged operating system is too complex for them to operate.
Not to mention the fact that consumers apparently love pissing money away replacing their hardware every 2-3 years, which is what the "smart" market dictates. That's really the part that chaps my ass the most. Running hardware for a decade to maximize useful life is practically illegal now. And yet we bitch about filling landfills.
From TFS:
consumers have turned away from laptops
Hmm. But then
Notebook computers and mobile workstations are another category that will see continued growth
I thought notebook computers and laptops were one and the same? But, I don't work at an IT analyst firm.
... Microsoft's Surface line and Apple's iPad Pro will lead the growth as consumers have turned away from laptops in favor of these more versatile computing devices. ...
I find the tablet form factor to be far more restrictive and more difficult to use than a laptop. The only things the tablet has in its favor are smaller size and a coolness factor. Aside from that, it is more difficult to enter data into a tablet, multitasking is difficult (if not impossible), you are locked in to a difficult-to-change configuration, etc.
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I have a tablet, and it sits idle most of the time, while my laptop gets used frequently.
If work is for the office, and battery power is for viewing things made by others, where does this leave people who do work while riding a bus, train, or airplane? For example, while commuting to and from my day job on the city bus, I work on my second job, which is work-from-home contract programming. And I prefer a smaller laptop because it's easier to carry than a 17" monster.
What we need is more progress on the CPU front. AMD has 16-core processors but nothing similar on Intel's side. If only they could come up with a "Core i9" or something.
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Desktop computers are still decreasing in popularity and that trend is likely to continue with their sales predicted to decrease by 15 million a year leading up to 2021.
That matches what I see in local friends. They don't want desktop PCs. At all.
That's sad because eventually there won't be enough market to sustain it without parts becoming very expensive, like they used to be before PCs became a consumer level device.
And that's sad because desktop PCs are the only decent gaming platform. Laptops and tablets don't have the grunt, and anyway the screens are too small. Consoles are DRMed out the ass, locked down spyware platforms with horrible controllers compared to kbd+mouse.
I am afraid we could lose the last good gaming platform left, if too many people move off the desktop, which appears to be the trend.
Well, at least it will be reported as growth to the stock market, and the flurry of trades will be enough for these executives to dump their stock options and return normal state from the excited state.
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VR is driving the PC Market (at least the power segment)
Improved resolution 4k, UHD are also driving improvements. Modernization of the monitor (not 1080p) is also helping.
To me it says one of two things:
People use "consumer" to mean a lot of categories of users. Most are unflattering.
Organizations like Gartner and IDC can provide data about the past and the present. When they start claiming they have any insight into the future whatsoever, ignore them. Their track record for predicting things is either unimpressive (predicting the obvious) to hilariously incorrect (any time they project a hyped technologieshttps://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/05/29/1613217/pc-market-could-return-to-growth-in-2019# future).
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You just use the 10S machine to login to a VM that wipes on logoff for the small use cases where you need something that doesn't work directly on 10S.
Let me know when Microsoft Virtual PC, VMware Player, VirtualBox, or any other VM software is available in the subset of the Windows Store that Windows 10 S can access. Microsoft disclosed 11 days ago that not every application in the Windows Store will run on Windows 10 S, and Linux distributions are among the applications that do not.
If by "login to a VM" you instead meant through something like RDP, then who is covering the recurring cost of the student's home Internet access, particularly students whose parents are poor or live in a rural area? Or if the student is instead expected to complete his homework on the school's WLAN, presumably after classes have ended for the day, who is covering the cost of transporting the student home after hours? School buses leave for the day soon after classes end.
Besides, if the VM "wipes on logoff", how would the user save his work between one run of the VM and the next, such as for a large project in AP Computer Science?
Aside from that, it is more difficult to enter data into a tablet
It depends on what kind of data. Wacom makes good money on it being easier to enter arbitrary curves in the unit square into a tablet.
multitasking is difficult (if not impossible)
Android has long supported a multitasking execution model, albeit with an "all maximized all the time" window management policy. If by "multitasking" you meant "multi-window", I largely agree. But Samsung's branch of Android has supported split-screen display since fairly early iterations of the Galaxy Note, though applications have to explicitly opt into split-screen using Samsung-specific manifest flags. For example, Chrome and Skype support it, but Discord doesn't. I admit that stock Android lagged in adopting this; it didn't get split-screen until 7.0 "Nougat".
Been to an airport recently?
That might be it. Because of the intrusive security theater measures required by the U.S. Transportation Security Administration, it's become common for some residents to make excuses to avoid flying at all.
Definitely, I'm sure my next machine is going to be a PC again. I'm going to aim for PC + TV + Chromecast + Wireless Keyboard combo so that I can work from both my desk and bed.
Around here the schools have parts of the campus that are open late hours
How do students who stay late to use the school's WLAN commonly get home after the school buses have already left? City bus?
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Power Users are tired of Microsoft and Apple grabbing up too much control of their computers, so PC Builds is the only way to fully customize it. Even if some aspects are STILL too much in control of Intel, AMD, Microsoft or Apple.
The first thing I do is RTFM. Followed by cutting any antennae leads and installing a set of jumper post on it.
Have I missed something? I don't get it.