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Free Movement of EU Citizens To Britain Will End in 2019 (standard.co.uk)
Free movement of EU citizens to Britain will end when the country leaves the EU in March 2019, Theresa May's spokesman said Monday, moving to contain a Cabinet row over immigration after Brexit. From a report: Downing Street (headquarters of the government of the United Kingdom) said on Monday it was "wrong" to suggest free movement would "continue as it is now" once Britain leaves the EU. It comes following days of confusion and rumours of infighting between Cabinet colleagues over the crucial issue of immigration after Brexit.
British, but got an Irish passport... Still free to travel and work in europe
This prediction has been made in my home city, Birmingham, since I was born and it has never come to fruition, perhaps get your news from places other than the EDL, National Front or UKIP.
whatever that other FREE is.
Proof this prediction happened long ago?
The huge increase of Muslim temples tells the real story, whatever people theorized back then, it's happening now.
They're projected to be the majority in GB now within 10 years. The whole point of leaving the EU and it didn't work.
Oh good. Should be easier to find some nice beef shawarma when I go home. Get nice Taco trucks whilst in America and Shawarma in the UK. Things are looking up.
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Muslims don't have temples, you insufferable bigoted ignorant fuckwit. If you can't get even the basics right, don't expect anyone to take you seriously on anything else.
It was going to end on Friday. Then it wasn't. Now it is again. Anyone who responds to anything coming out of Downing Street at the moment with anything other than resigned bemusement is far too trusting. The government is as split as the country was and I'll be astonished if both major parties manage to survive Brexit. Worth bearing in mind that the man who holds the purse strings, Phillip Hammond, is not a fan.
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There are going to be a lot of confused bigots queuing to get through the non-EU passport controls on their way to Magaluf / the Costas etc. "Whaddya mean I need a visa?! I'm British!!"
Query whether Theresa May will still be PM in 2019...
In a world where it's possible for an ordinary person to get on a jet plane and be literally on the other side of the planet in a day (24 hours give or take), restricting people to live out their lives confined to the arbitrary geographical borders of whatever country they happened to be born in is increasingly problematic.
There's a lot of heart breaking suffering in the world and an increasingly viable solution is to allow people to move away from their difficult circumstances to other parts of the planet. But there's a certain aesthetic to world that is mostly segregated by race and ethnicity. There's a certain order to the idea that most Japanese people should live in Japan - sort of like not wanting your peas to touch your mashed potatoes on the dinner plate. And then the rich people also tell the poor people that it's the foreigners, rather than the rich people themselves, who are keeping the poor people poor.
So how do you balance the aesthetic and propaganda of the rich that argues for segregation against the being able to alleviate significant suffering in the world by allowing people to live and work and travel outside of the arbitrary geographical boundaries of the country they happened to be born in?
"Whaddya mean I need a visa?! I'm British!!"
Yo no comprendo, visa per favor.
Too right, all these fuckwits who vote to close the borders did not realise they themselves would be effected.
You can hear the shouts now "Oi Fuck Face, I'm British, let me through this border as I aint no Mulsim"
To feel safe, she needs to know everyone's blood type, DNA, religion, facial recognition data, and the complete removal of free will, unfiltered communication, and minorities; only then will she and all other British politicians feel safe.
what's that, a pint of Guiness?
EU citizens isnt really the problem (apart from Romanians/Albanians) its the deluge of 3rd world simpletons from non EU countries eg. Pakistan/Nigeria/India/Eritrea/Somalia/MiddleEast/Phillipines/Thailand.
bringing their shitty 3rd world culture, highly unskilled lowIQ people who cant even do farm jobs or labouring, nobody in Britain wants them here.
Exactly. Brexiteers either haven't figured this out or are in denials. Want to go to Spain? You'll need a visa. France? Visa. Ireland? Well, if you are travelling overland a visa and an amoured car.
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How did the parent comment get modded to 5, Informative?! Mosques are Muslim temples.
Did you see the idiot Conservative MEP who suggested the solution was simply to have a hard border between the whole British Isles and the EU.
Yeah, that'll go down splendidly.
Next week they will say something different. The only thing that this current UK government has been consistent about is pissing into the wind.
The British joined the EU with special conditions because their economy was in really bad shape. And now they want to leave to improve their economic position? This is really tragic. They seem to have decided that fucking themselves with a wire-brush is a really good idea. And now their moron-in-chief also wants a "hard" exit in addition? Well, we will miss you in the 1st world, that's for sure. And I am well aware that about half of you are _not_ terminally stupid. Makes it even more tragic.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Another boring non-story. Not even a smidgen of a connection with tech. Just a "here today, gone tomorrow" politics post.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
The old saying that "nobody surrenders like the French" should be modified to "nobody is as fucking stupid as the English". After all, new millenium, new saying.
Indeed. "British" is to become a trendy term for "stupid". Well, they have to live in that little island with foul weather and not much better food, after all.
The old saying that "nobody surrenders like the French" should be modified to "nobody is as fucking stupid as the English". After all, new millenium, new saying.
Indeed. "British" is to become a trendy term for "stupid". Well, they have to live in that little island with foul weather and not much better food, after all.
and a great dental plan.
4.4% of the population of the United Kingdom is Muslims. That would mean the birth rate of British Muslim women of childbearing age over the next 10 years would have to be astronomical.
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Really, all of those would need a visa? I'm from the US, I've been to most of those countries and I've never needed a visa. And the US isn't part of the EU. We've just had to go through customs.
Or people start leaving GB at an exponential rate.
Not many people from the UK were holidaying in the middle east or sub-saharan Africa. Import these cultures into Europe and nobody will be holidaying there either.
This sounds like it's going to spell big trouble for Northern Ireland. I wonder if this will be the bullet that causes Northern Ireland to leave the UK.
I don't any longer feel for contributing to their economy when they make it difficult to get in.
My Pension date will be January 2018 so I can quit their new society of scare for and fear of their neighbours before it becomes problematic.
Not that I believe they will impose great barriers to EU citizen, even in the Maggie Thatcher days there were no real issues getting in.
The Bexiteers say they want to improve their standards of living by removing the EU rules and workers, well let me say there isn't a single employer in the UK that would hire an EU worker if he couldn't make money that way. Or more money than by employing a British national.
The underlying issue of the Brexit campaign is the same as Trumps Make America Great Again, the portion of the population that has a lack of Self-respect. For some reason they feel (in their own country!) inferior to their foreign born fellow citizen.
Something that has been instilled in parts of the British people by years of reading the tabloids that were full of nonsensical stories about crooked cucumbers and outsiders living of the meagre UK benefits. And other elements of the media that have never bothered much to set right these ridiculous misconceptions.
The bottom line is I feel sorry for the enlightened Brits and the Europeans that had a good commercial relation with them.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
That the EU became much more than a "Trade Union" to help free trade between nations and became a supernational government acting well beyond the limits of economics.
I believe you have a very one sided view of who exactly screwed themselves with a wire brush. Numerous countries in the EU are taking issue with the Social policies the EU is trying to force on them.
I wonder why people who promote the EU continuously ignore the first Nation to leave, and what a positive impact it has had on them. Hint: the UK was not first, and probably won't be the last without changes in the EU body pushing social reforms on members..
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Assuming those fleeing are non-Muslim.
No no, for that you need to build a wall. A big ass wall. It has to be some 100 feet high and surround the entire country. Oh and it also has to be submerged to a depth of at least 500feet below sea level to stop the sneaky bastards from tunneling their way in from underwater.
Oh bullshit. Before the EU you didn't need visas either. You had to queue up at the border, they looked at your passport and waved you through. There was life before the EU, you know.
Exactly, these are the ones the Brexiteers are complaining about but they have jack shit to do with the EU.
The claim EU regulations make it impossible or difficult to expel them is bull, it is their own British laws that need fixing plus you can never send someone to a country that doesn't want them.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
Either scenario, or a combination of the two, would require unbelievably high birth rates and levels of emigration that only happen in countries with civil wars or mass famines.
In other words, no, Britain is not going to be majority Muslim in 10 years. To believe so requires such an intense degree of stupidity that it's difficult to imagine how one would have the cognitive function sufficient to operate a keyboard... or a flush toilet.
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It all depends on whether the British keep dragging their feet with regard to the exit "deal". If there is no agreement or it doesn't include a visa waiver treaty with the EU, British people will need visa. US citizens don't need one because of the bilateral visa waiver program.
They're only at 4% after 7 decades of immigration so they'd better get a move on
That was the intent, and the intent was achieved. It's a government of the elites constraining the sovereignty of the plebs. As a result, it is doomed to failure. The peoples constituting it will reject the loss of sovereignty eventually, based upon its lack of a dominating military force. The willy-nilly accession of nations which really weren't comparable to the original EEC members also did them no favors.
It seemed unstoppable as long as the economic forces constrained politics. Then 2008 happened, and that false prosperity was shown to be a lie.
Something akin to true federalism would have been a wiser choice, but no one involved in its creation wanted that kind of weak government. It's too late now to change course. You'd need another WWII type event to set the stage, which is unlikely to happen again in a useful way for pan-Europe enthusiasts.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Why do you think it will be the same afterwards? The EU won't just give it to us, it will be part of the negotiations which at the moment don't seem to be going too well.
Demographic change can happen much quicker than one expects.
Look at Hamtramck, Michigan and Dearborn, Michigan for examples of this happening recently.
Even as late as the 1970s, the residents of Hamtramck were nearly all (90%) from Poland, or of Polish descent. But by 2000, Poles made up only about 10% of the population. By 2015 it had the first majority Muslim city council in the US.
Dearborn is similar. Once mainly populated by people of European origin or descent, as of 2010 over 40% of its population was of Arab ancestry, with many of them practicing Islam.
A city like Birmingham is moderately large, so it may take longer to see it happen. But when you factor in birth rate differentials, immigration rates, emigration rates, and death rates, a non-Muslim city could easily become a Muslim-majority city within two or three generations.
Depending on how long you live, there's a good chance you'll experience it later in your life, even if you don't see it today. Your children (or hypothetical ones, if you're impotent) will experience it.
Look, you can't keep your religion alive unless you convince everyone there is a war against it. It's either that or talking about the end times.
Is this even possible? How many eggs do they lay during a single breeding cycle? Google seems to be lacking specifics on that.
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Really, all of those would need a visa? I'm from the US, I've been to most of those countries and I've never needed a visa. And the US isn't part of the EU. We've just had to go through customs.
By default, yes.
The UK has very few visa waiver agreements in place, mostly relying on the EU agreements.
On leaving the EU, it's not likely we will have any visa waiver agreements in place with our former partners, and many of our non-EU agreements may well also lapse.
Imagine if your state ceded from the union. Would you still have visa-free travel? No -- it would have to be negotiated.
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Visa waiver programmes are not guaranteed.
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Most Muslims in the UK come from the Commonwealth.
With very little paper work they receive an UK resident permit, even citizenship and also a passport if they want.
The EU has absolutely nothing to do with the UK's perceived "Muslim problem".
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Was it? I thought that the Muslims that UK is flooded with are Pakistanis & Bangladeshis who came directly from those 2 countries, not via mainland Europe. And English, rather than French or German, is the first European language that they know.
I thought that the whole idea behind Brexit was to prevent the EU bureaucracy from micromanaging policies within the UK. Merkel throwing Europe open to Muslims may have exacerbated things, but the people who have been doing stabbings or rapes or running over in lorries have been from countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan who came directly to the UK, not just rapefugees who crossed from Calais to Dover. UK can turn off the entry from mainland Europe, but are they shutting down entry from the sub-continent?
Source?
When combinations of 'Mohammed', 'Muhammad', 'Mehmet', 'Mahmud' and so on are the most common baby name in the UK, those are leading indicators that the BNP/UKIP/EDL/NF are CORRECT! Just add to that the 'Ahmad's, the 'Imran's, the 'Ali's, and so on, and you'd get to a majority
So what you're saying isn't that there will be a need for visas, but that there might be a need for visas. This is one of my biggest aggravations. When people state some piece of speculation as fact.
Are Northern Irish now less hostile towards being governed by a Catholic Dublin?
'cos the ideas you wrote out were certainly shitty.
"With very little paper work they receive an UK resident permit, even citizenship and also a passport if they want."
You clearly know fuck all about this topic.
Or people can convert to Islam.
Islam is a religion that accepts conversion.
So, wimpy Britains so frightened by a few people with different cultural backgrounds in their midst, to the tune of a few percent, that they'll abandon their home country because it isn't "pure" enough?
Good riddance to bad rubbish. They aren't going to find what they want in some other country unless they move somewhere with an apartheid-like policy.
Do you think it's probable that there would be tens of millions of converts to Islam?
Or to put this another way, just how far you willing to go down Stupid Street to justify what is clearly an absurd, even idiotic claim?
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Well, two years is a short time under the best of circumstances, but Britain hasn't even decided what they want yet, and we're already four months into the "negotiations" with hardly anything done. There will have to be a real and unlikely change of attitude for there not to be a hard Brexit, so Brits will most likely need visas to visit the EU, at least for a short while.
Demographically, yes, things are going that way. The protestant population is on the decline.
Census figures: NI Protestant population continuing to decline
The EU would not listen about immigration. It would not listen about democratic reforms. The EU is responsible for the decision of the British people to leave. Britain can't sustain immigration in the region of 250000 people every year. There is already a housing crisis here, there are shortages of school places, the health service is under severe pressure (partly also due to the tory attacks on the core values that underpin it), transport infrastructure is grossly inadequate, and there are likely to be future issues with years of under investment in base load for the power grid. It is absurd to continue to allow massive migration under these circumstances. While I'm personally in favour of being part of a European Union, I had to vote against staying in it in its current unreformable state. I don't think leaving will be a good thing, but to stay under these terms is unacceptable. Hopefully once what remains of the EU collapses, we can re-join a new more sensible and democratic union, less focused on pursuit of corporate interests, and right wing schemes to ship cheap labour to the wealthier countries/depress the euro to make exports from wealthier countries more competitive. I have no problem with other European citizens coming here to work, but immigration/migration should occur on a rough parity basis to prevent massive population growth. Clearly the massive inflow of people is just eroding living standards for everyone. I think collapse of the EU is now inevitable, particularly given the integration of completely incompatible economies, regardless of the vicious social cost to the poorest countries. Sooner or later, there will be revolt. Britain may be the first to depart, but it certainly won't be the last.
Huge increase? Perhaps in relative terms, but in absolute that's silly. It's gone from a tiny fraction to a modest fraction of the number of "temples" of various types. When the number of "Muslim temples" approaches the number of "Christan temples" (mosques and churches, respectively), then maybe you'd have a valid data point, but as it is the number of "temples" doesn't say very much when people may or may not be religious or stay that way over the generations. The number of avowed muslims is something like 4%. Even if it were double that, I don't see what the supposed problem is.
There are something like 1200 mosques in the UK according to the Muslim Association of Britain. It's out of date (2010), but there are something like 50000 church congregations according to these statistics. Even accounting for the increase in the former and decline of the latter, that's a pretty huge difference and the ratio (~2.4%) is less than the population figures suggest would be representative.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill and could probably make the similar bogus arguments out of sikism, buddhism, judaism or for that matter jedi, pastafarianism, atheism or the huge "unaffiliated/not stated" religion.
The food these days is incredibly diverse and ranges from appalling to excellent (like most places).
The weather is quite variable but generally not fucking freezing or sweltering hot. With recent warming trends I'm currently living quite comfortably without either an A/C system or a functioning heating system (just a bit of 'spot heating')
The "little island" has a good range of different scenery - mountain, moor river, seaside etc., a fascinating canal system and a railway system which is the delight of all rail nerds (e.g on the national network in the space of 40 miles on the same line you can go from Victorian-style semaphore signals and wooden crossing gates to the very latest LED signals).
The health service, whilst underfunded and slow for non-urgent operations has excellent urgent care, and covers everyone at a considerably lower cost per head than the US.
I have a good standard of living and an IT job which pays for it and still gives me 38 days per year leave and a 37 hour week with paid overtime.
Unfortunately 52% of the voting population who bothered to turn out was stupid enough to vote for 'brexit'.
Apart from that, I find it very agreeable and am not at all miserable about living here.
You obviously only PRETEND to live in Birmingham- or you live in one of those dimishing posh WHITE-FLIGHT outskirt areas that racists who pretend to love 'integration' move to when the local primary and secondary schools are majority muslim, and have a teaching approach that would disturb a middle class person from Pakistan.
The birth rate of muslim families in the UK is extraordinary. Whereas the first wave of muslim immigrants to Britain was upwardly mobile, well-educated, middle class people, since Tony Blair's geocidal wars in the Middle East, many British cities have been flooded with the most primitive classes of people, and for them very large families make socio-economic sense.
Now the mainstream media in the UK is publicly proclaiming this 'ethnic immigrant explosion' is a "good thing" cos all these kids will pay for the pensions of the "white aging population" in the future. Funny- cos through the 60s til the present day, official government policy has been to persuade the 'natives' of the UK to have as few children as possible.
And the wahhabi nature of UK muslims is growing month by month. All major mosques in the UK have been built and/or funded by Saudi Arabia. So whereas once muslim women embraced the western lifestyle BY CHOICE, now almost 100% of them wear headscarves in the UK cities, and increasing numbers of them wear the burka. Brutal pressure from Saudi backed community leaders makes muslim women frightened to be seen as "too" western.
The BBC and other media outlets promote wahhabi conformity for british muslims, and in the coverage of the West's wahhabi holocaust in Syria, for instance, the black bag wearing extremist women are the 'good' people, and the western looking ordinary syrian islamic women are the 'bad' people. So British muslims become more and more extreme- either because they back the UK and USA supported wahhabi terror, or because they are disgusted at the West's destruction of Libya, Iraq and Syria.
Of course, outside the major cities, Britain is 'traditionally' white. And if you look at the results of the last general election, you'll see non urban areas voted Tory, and Urban areas votes Labour. But in the end the cities are the real powerbase- so it is the ethnic makeup of the cities that matter. White flight is very real- and champagne socialist- like shadowknot- like to lie about the situation and praise the immigration policies because they themselves live in middle-class 'ghettos' nicely removed from reality.
The problem with 'muslim' areas of cities like Bham is not that they are 'muslim', but that the current socio-economic nature of the immigrants makes them a catspaw of very very evil community leaders, and the bosses they serve. So the most powerful muslim politicians in the UK have all supported Blair's wars of aggression on innocent muslims across the planet without question. Only some 'white' british politicians have dared attack Blair's ongoing warmongering policies (kept alive by Blair loyalists like May and Corbyn).
Every effort is made by the major political parties to ensure british born muslim kids do not assimilate- and see themselves as muslim first and british not at all. This leaves most muslim kids in state of confusion- which is exactly where Blair's people want them. They are forced to rely on their own communities- so the power and size of their 'community' matters- and they have every incentive to see both grow.
The LIE is that cities like Bham are 'lawless hellholes' because of the 'muslims'. In the sense that you Yanks are supposed to believe, this is utterly untrue. But for all too many vulnerable muslim people in the big cities, it is all too true.
The top 10 male baby names in 2017 for the UK: http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/07/...
Mohammed or any of the combinations does not even make it to the top 100
Travel to the USofA and you can see for yourself.
The influence of the extreme conservative churches is scary.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
And so does Christianity and atheism btw.
Christian Caliphate. Now you're the ignorant one.
..." Second there is Gelasius' Two Swords theory.
First in Christianity there are scriptural distinctions between church and state: "Render onto Caesar that which is Caesars
Except in very few places for very short times there were always secular and ecumenical leaders - and if you knew your history you would now that there was violence at times between the two.
The Caliphate is something that has NEVER existed in Christianity. (And if you bring up the Papacy you obviously have very limited knowledge of Western Civilization and how it was structured.)
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
And where to do you want to deport them?
The great majority of these countries refuse entry to those that don't want. (or not have a relevant passport, birth certificate etc.)
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
You think it sounds good? To me it sounds like Civil War.
Only a f**king idiot thinks this is a good idea or would troll about it. 20 years ago it may have been laughably improbable.
Today. Unfortunately it looks like a distinct possibility.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
They're less than 5% of the population, so how exactly are they going to become the majority in 10 years? I've never seen any predictions like that from a credible (ie non-racist) source.
One way only, the other way, out of Islam, is strictly haram/ haloof, forbidden by the sharia.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
Exactly. Brexiteers either haven't figured this out or are in denials. Want to go to Spain? You'll need a visa. France? Visa. Ireland? Well, if you are travelling overland a visa and an amoured car.
In theory they don't need to issue visas at all and the English channel is a better wall than Trump could ever make. In practice this is just the kind of scare-mongering that led to the Brexit vote, trying to act like the UK has no choice in the matter or that all hell would rain down on them if they did. I just checked here in Norway and I can go to 127 countries around the world without a visa, at least for vacations shorter than a month. It's a standard courtesy offered by most friendly nations and all that want to encourage tourism.
If the EU refused this to the UK, their neighbor and former union member it would have all the telltale marks of a vindictive divorce that would cast a very long and dark shadow over the EU. While it is the UK that wanted to part ways it's not like they started a war or anything, despite the political positioning I doubt the EU will act like the psycho ex. Obviously the UK won't get to pick and choose the parts of the EU agreement they liked, but to think that the EU wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire is nonsense.
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"UK can turn off the entry from mainland Europe, but are they shutting down entry from the sub-continent"
Migration from outside the EU was and always has been within the power of the UK, Brexit will not and cannot affect that, apart from the bit when it fucks the economy and people don't want to Migrate to the UK.
You mean the English Channel?
At present, it's totally unknown what the post-exit setup will be. British citizens can currently travel without a visa to many countries (more than almost any other, IIRC), but whether that's because the UK is part of the EU or not varies from country to country. Generally speaking, if a country specifically states that *UK* citizens don't need a visa (like the US does) because of arrangements that predate any made by the EU, then that arrangement should continue regardless of whatever terms are agreed between the UK and the EU.
Post Brexit, it's entirely possible that the EU could require that British citizens acquire a visa for visits to the EU (and presumably visa versa since it's almost certainly going to be a quid pro quo arrangement, whichever way it goes), which would probably negate any arrangements that allow them to travel as citizens of the EU as well. That's likely to be deeply unpopular on both sides however; far too many people are used to making impromptu trips between the UK and mainland Europe via Eurostar or to take advantage of special offers by budget airlines, all of which might be too much trouble if a visa is required. Not that being merely deeply unpopular seems to be a major impediment to how things turn out any more, of course.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
Have you ever tried flushing a toilet?!
I tend to rant.
And apparently name their boy children Asher, the new undercover Muslim name!
Different backgrounds?
If that was it you would be correct?
Rapes. Acid Attacks. Machete attacks. That's different. Being aggressively abusive about your adopted country calling people "Pig Eaters" (This is Germany not England).
You used to have the trope of the "Ugly American." Now the new reality is the Ugly Immigrant
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
And what about atheists? Kill them?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Top UK boys' names by year and ranking.
2016 @ #2 - Muhammad
2015 @ #1 - Muhammad
2014 @ #1 - Muhammad
2013 @ #28 - Muhammad
2012 @ #57 - Muhammad
2011 @ #35 - Muhammad
https://www.babycentre.co.uk/p...
Life is not for the lazy.
You think christianity "allows" you to convert to something else?
No, you go to hell if you don't accept that specific god as the best, just like any other religion.
Around 4.4% of the population said they were Muslim at the last census (2011). Keep in mind that the census tends to inflate the numbers because the people filling it in put their kids down as being religious when they aren't really and stop participating when they grow up.
Anyway, that's up 1.7% since 2001, so in a decade. At that rate, by 2050 a massive 10% of the population will be Muslim. I don't think we have too much to worry about.
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I don't think there's going to be any long-term issue on visitor visas, but it's going to be a massive headache for people wanting to work abroad -- as an English teacher, I've got good reason to be concerned. The specific problem for me and thousands like me is that everyone would prefer teachers from the US, but the hassle of sorting out working visas is more than most schools can be bothered with, so they settle for people from the UK and Ireland. But once teachers from the UK need visas... well, it'll be just as easy to recruit an American, and the students will be happier with that.
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It seems unlikely that freedom of movement will really end. Maybe in the sense that EU nationals will no longer have the right to work in the UK or use UK services as anything other than tourists, and of course the same for UK citizens living in Europe. But politically they won't be able to close that border, and people will move freely across it.
In practice that means that people will be able to bring family members in via the border, for example. It will create a new underclass of immigrants from the EU who don't have visas, can't work, don't have proper access to government services and the NHS, and which are impossible for the government to track and manage.
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Only those non-Muslims that haven't started families need to leave a particular area and it is guaranteed to become majority Muslim.
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N important difference, when leaving Christianity for something else their hell no longer scares.
When leaving Islam the Sharia allows all kinds of nasty punishments to you by the remaining believers right here on earth.
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
Temple is a non-specific word for a place of worship and can apply to synagogues, mosques and churches alike.
First in Christianity there are scriptural distinctions between church and state: "Render onto Caesar that which is Caesars ..."
That didn't exactly stop medieval and early modern kingdoms from forcing religion onto people. Cuius regio, eius religio. I'm not sure whether it would matter to me if was ecclesiastical or government authority forcing ancient superstition onto me.
Ezekiel 23:20
omg you are a moron.
Example for you:
on your school there are 10 Muslim children. 8 of them are called Muhammad (it is a very popular name for people with that background).
There are also 90 other children. They are from a more diverse background. There are many children called Tom (7), Dick (6) and Harry (5).
Despite the fact that Muhammad is the most popular name, the vast majority of the children there are not Muslim.
Work it out, we'll wait for it.
And WTF are you doing on a website that used to claim it was about stuff for smart masses....
on your school there are 10 Muslim children. 8 of them are called Muhammad (it is a very popular name for people with that background).
*You* are a moron if you think that *80%* of "people with that background" have a single name. You'd be lucky for it to be more than about 10%. (How did you even come up with the idea that people *in any society* would willingly give almost everyone the same name? Even Romans with their notoriously limited repertoire of names had a few dozen of them.)
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Just curious, could the individual countries in the EU agree to wavered visas like a pre-EU that ac was speaking of?
It's not just "probable", it historically happened.
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I live here, and have lived in NC, GA and now VA. Haven't noticed any such influence!
Top UK boys' names by year and ranking. 2016 @ #2 - Muhammad 2015 @ #1 - Muhammad 2014 @ #1 - Muhammad 2013 @ #28 - Muhammad 2012 @ #57 - Muhammad 2011 @ #35 - Muhammad https://www.babycentre.co.uk/p... [babycentre.co.uk]
As Kyosuke pointed out, it's historically happened - in countries like Syria, Egypt, Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia, the stans, the Indian sub-continent... And in Europe, in Albania, Bosnia.
Read up on Dominionism. it's hell bent on taking over the USA and making it a theocracy.
Under considerably different circumstances; military invasions.
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That's what they need to do, but so far, none of the political parties, aside from the BNP, has pledged to keep out Muslims.
Don't usually say this, but your comment is really astonishingly racist.
Points:
1). We are in some kind of race or contest with Muslims? What do we get for winning, a box of Crackerjacks? There's all kinds of stupid in this notion;
2). Suppose that Muslims make up the majority in Great Britain in 10 years, as you say. This seems unlikely but let's play along for a moment. As long as those are British Muslims I fail to see the problem. The main problem would be if the British (regardless of religious affiliation) were minorities in their own country. Now that would be a problem.
3). The "whole point of leaving the EU" was not to keep Muslims out. It was to assert control of the borders, chart an independent foreign and economic policy, and anti-Brussels sentiment. The anti-foreigner elements of Brexit targeted mainland Europeans every bit as much as migrants from Africa and the Middle East.
Your comment is literally made up of fail.
A two second Google search shows that your stated facts are wrong for 2015. According to the Independent which is quoting the Office for National Statistics which is an official government department and so vastly more reliable than some random website you picked Muhammad was the 14th most popular boys in 2015.
If you go direct to the ONS website you will see that they do not have statistics yet for 2016 but you can also see that 'Oliver' was the top boys name in 2014. So please stop peddling lies and fake news. Mohammad is a boys name which has increased in popularity and in some regions, like London, where there is a large concentration of Muslims it is the top name but overall in the UK it is certainly not number one or even in the top ten!
No, most of those conversions happened after conquest, not during. Like for instance, Iran was first conquered by the caliphs, but conversion to Islam happened mainly in the 9th & 10th centuries under the Samanids & Buyids. In short, discriminatory policies were set up that made Zoroastrians second class citizens to Muslims, and to escape that, the bulk of them converted to Islam. Same story in Syria, Egypt & the rest of North Africa. In the East Indies, after a ruler converted to Islam, he decreed that his subjects had to convert as well, and that's how Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei & Mindanao all became Muslim.
Not very different in Europe today. You have policies that make it hate crimes to protest Muslim immigration into these countries, and neither the Left nor the Right in Europe is willing to tolerate any opposition to that, the former b'cos it's made common cause w/ the Jihad, and the latter b'cos it's scared of being branded racist. Take UK for example. Neither the Tories nor Labour endorse any plans to deport all Muslims out of the UK, despite the fact that ALL the attacks in the UK have been done by Muslims, and that too in the name of allah. So Muslims can keep coming in, and there will come a time when they will not just have mayors like Sadiq Khan, but a majority of city councils and legislators will be Muslim as well. After a certain threshold, it won't be far fetched to declare the UK an Islamic kingdom.
I agree. In fact, I'm not even entirely sure that Brexit will actually happen anymore. With no idea what they want from the negotiations, it is hard to see how these will succeed and, without that, Northern Ireland will suddenly get a hard border. The DUP is supposedly vehemently against this so I expect that once it becomes clear that this will happen the government will fall and whoever takes over will then have no time left to negotiate and will have to choose between the hardest possible hard Brexit or revoking article 50 (which is legally unclear but the EU has said it would be happy to allow). Either way the UK is in for a hell of a rough ride for the next few years either ending up back where it started or in economically uncharted waters.
It really depends on the context. I think OP was saying that this isn't a common term of reference for Islamic places of worship, having grown up in a place where there are a good portion of Muslims I can personally attest to this, though with the caveat that this term may be in use in other Muslim communities. It's also not true to say that "temple" is always a "non-specific word for a place of worship" (I know you didn't say always, I'm just inferring). The example I would give would be that of The LDS (Mormon) church. They have distinct places that would be referred to as churches (or chapels) and a completely separate category of places called "temples" that are not general places of worship, regular open services do not take place there, they are reserved for specific practices.
17,410,742 out of them
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information
Not to mention that in many places, e.g., Egypt, the military invasions, if I'm not mistaken, were actually viewed as liberations at least by a part of the population. In Egypt's case, from the Byzantine government. And (later) conversions were often motivated financially, although the dynamics between motivating people to convert by means of taxation and banning them from converting (to avoid the poll tax) precisely for fiscal reasons (to keep the poll tax returns high) was interesting. This was also Egypt's case, I believe, although I read a monograph on that many years ago and don't remember the specifics now.
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The UK government uses a two-tier points system to assess permanent resident visa applicants. At present, the main route to living in the UK is via a skilled worker visa. To apply for citizenship you need to have lived in the country for five years, pay over £1,000 and pass a test that most native born citizens would not pass.
Iceland, Greenland, and soon to be the UK all left the EU (UK by vote only). Algeria was a technicality first, but a technicality, as is Saint Barthelemy. There are other strong movements to leave in the Poland and Hungary, gaining support due to the social pushes by the EU. Other movements in the Netherlands, France, Italy, Sweden, and even Germany are gaining momentum.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
That's not even a contemporary first derivative, that's at best an approximation of the first derivative. Not to mention the higher derivatives.
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They figure if they can wait long enough, they can replace the will of the people with the will of the Eurocrats.
Apparently Brussels (and the fellow travellers in London) doesn't like it when commoners try to flee the plantation.
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> Maybe in the sense that EU nationals will no longer have the right to work in the UK
Which is exactly what "freedom of movement" means in this context. Thanks for playing.
If it's a UK toilet, honestly that's a skill only people born there can acquire. It's like being a native speaker.
I mean, UK toilets you can't just press a button, you have to push a handle.
Too slow? Doesn't work.
Too fast? Doesn't work either.
Full moon? I'm sure UK toilets don't work under a full moon.
I don't know why they still use that kind of flush. Is it some kind of emotional attachment like the one that makes you keep the cup where you've glued the handle for the 3rd time and you're sure you'll burn yourself next time it breaks?
That's odd, the EXACT same website contradicts what you said:
http://grk.am/77
It says Mohammed is #2.
So, which is it?
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Well, obviously all the men will marry non-muslim women, thus making them muslim (7.5%), then they all muslim women gets a baby every 9 months (+5%) and there you are, takes actually only about 7 years!
(yes, just kidding, it is biologically possible, but there are not enough people insane enough to want to have that many children)
wikipedia, the source of a truthiness.
champagne socialist[s]- like shadowknot- like to lie about the situation and praise the immigration policies because they themselves live in middle-class 'ghettos' nicely removed from reality.
This is just hilarious, I am assuredly not a socialist, champagne or otherwise and I do not support any of the policies I've heard British political parties push on immigration, they're all stupid. I was raised very close to the "ghettos" you speak of, it is true that there is a problem there, when I still lived there there was an attempt to change the name of either Sparkhill or Sparkbrook to "Apna Town" which I was informed translates to "Our Town" implying it belongs to the Muslim population. This endeavor went nowhere, however, that's the point I'm making. The fear mongering is so overblown and the notion that the Muslim population is going to be the majority isn't borne out by the data.
They figure if they can wait long enough, they can replace the will of the people with the will of the Eurocrats.
What will is that. "the people" voted to leave, but they didn't vote for any specific form of leave.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
So when will the UK financially compensate Europe for starting a destabilizing war leading to these mass migrations into Europe?
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
Looks like the difference is due to:
Nameberry worked out their list by looking at the most viewed names on their website in the first half of 2017, rather than looking at real-life babies’ names.
However to be nit-picking, #2 is not "the most common name" as original poster claimed.
If you're thinking of a 90 day vacation within the Schengen Zone, then yes all one would need would be a passport stamped. And I guess the same restrictions apply to US visitors as from my country in terms of re-entry and the number of visits permitted within a 12 month period.
A tourist visit once or twice a year is thus different from current arrangements where EU citizens can come and go as they please, or reside or conduct business. In that case they'd be inhabitants of just another country and require visas like everyone else on the planet outside Europe.
Oh, you were always free to go and even at first to not be part of the EU. There was no plantation, there was a shared garden which needs people to mature. You flee. We are fine with that. One of the major EU principles always was and still is freedom. Nobody will prevent you to leave.
Are you really surprised that when UK leave EU, the partners countries, quite violently, aggressively and patronizingly that the one left are unhappy?
You hoped a divorce where the EU says:
- we are so happy you are leaving, you are so right, UK is so great ;
- we accept that the UK keep the advantages of EU and refuse to share the burden of living with other countries (you know compromises).
It won't happen. You are delusional. Get back down on earth: you flee, you assume. Stop being whining children, grow up.
That's what happened in Dearborn ... They just moved a bit west
Given that only 5% of the UK population is Muslim, and assuming only people from that 5% would call their children Muhammed, either the stated fact of Muhammed being number 2 most popular boys name is wrong, or the parent poster is right, in principle, even if he got the exact percentage wrong.
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There are something like 1200 mosques in the UK according to the Muslim Association of Britain [mabonline.net].
1200 KNOWN mosques.
Turns out Germany does not even know how many there are for various reasons.
(And of course they don't know WHAT is said in there in a foreign language.)
Constantin Schreiber visited 13 random mosques and listened to sermons, transcribed them and got them translated with professional help. In a side note he mentions that the government has no idea how many mosques there really are in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_Schreiber
I bet the situation in the U.K. is not better. (First question is probably: which mosques are not covered by the Muslim Association of Britain. Are there other sub-faiths? ...)
It probably hasn't broken. The names are probably not normalized (before Muhammed =~ Muhammad, now different) anymore? Or not the whole dataset is collected.
Yeah and you are the jaybird who said the name was even in the top 100, not to be nitpicking that is....
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Keep playing dumb. The 3 states you visited were completely inundated with that shit. No or little abortions, sodomy laws, blue laws, 10 commandments posted in public spaces, censorship laws, constant pushback on evolution education, constant pushback on health education, refusal to pay for birth control, education vouchers (which mainly pay parochial schools), gambling bans, and so much other bullshit I'm tired of typing it all. When you like your caliphate, it doesn't look like one to you.
Most countries in the EU are also part of the Schengen area. Of those who are not most are "legally required" to join and in the meantime are applying rules based on the Schengen rules. The only countries in the EU with opt-outs from Schengen are the UK and Ireland.
AIUI countries in Schengen are not allowed to negotiate visa-free agreements individually, so it's largely all or nothing for the UK getting visa-free access to mainland EU countries.
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Muslims literally have temples, you fucking imbecile. He even lower-cased the "t" for you.
As for bigotry... Facts aren't bigoted. Facts aren't racist. Facts are facts. That you scream down the messenger doesn't make the message suddenly untrue, but it does make the rest of us wonder what it is you're trying to hide.
The only person displaying ignorance here is you.
You just got burned the fuck out..
Admit that you are a fucking moron, apologize, and shut the fuck up. Stop trying to weasel your shit argument.
It's good that you stopped arguing this thread, MadMuhammidan. You're starting to look like a fucking imbecile willing to say any stupid shit that comes to mind, regardless of truth.
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Islam is a religion that accepts conversion.
That's a partial truth at best. Converting _to islam_ is fine. Converting _from islam_ is punishable by death: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Christian kings derived their power from god.
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Thank you for your fascinating contribution
In fact, the Leave campaign and prominent Leave proponents all said we could stay in the single market, which means retaining freedom of movement. This isn't what was voted for at all.
https://youtu.be/0xGt3QmRSZY
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You could have saved yourself time and just said "I'm a stupid and hateful cunt"
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Obviously, the relative frequencies depends on the actual name distribution, so one can't make meaningful judgment based purely on frequency orderings, but any examples along the lines of "imagine that 80% of people in a group have the same name" *are* a priori idiotic, outside of intentional meetings of people having the same name.
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One ape managed to convince the other apes that he was magical. Shame that the world's smartest animal is quite so fucking gullible, isn't it.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
It's a shame that making shit up works on stupid people, isn't it? Man we are drowning in fucking idiots.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
They're projected to be the majority in GB now within 10 years. The whole point of leaving the EU and it didn't work.
Projected by who?
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Muslims literally have temples, you fucking imbecile. He even lower-cased the "t" for you.
As for bigotry... Facts aren't bigoted. Facts aren't racist. Facts are facts. That you scream down the messenger doesn't make the message suddenly untrue, but it does make the rest of us wonder what it is you're trying to hide.
The only person displaying ignorance here is you.
What fact though? That muslims are a majority now or ever? Because that's not a fact.
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In my home city, Antwerp, the majority of children in the city schools is now muslim. The percentage in catholic schools is somewhat lower but growing rapidly as well (since catholic schools do everything they can to accommodate other religions).
The children are our future...
Or people start leaving GB at an exponential rate.
And go where?
EU? that door's been shut
US? fuck that
Russia? not likely
Australia/NZ? possible but probably not
Middle east? haha good one.
Africa? see middle east
About the best bet is probably China but we really don't like learning other languages, especially ones as different as Chinese.
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Hello
can someone tell me how there is free movmenet of EU citizens to the UK?
The UK is not in the Schengen area. Not at all. Switzerland is more in Schengen area than the UK, and Switzerland is not even EU member.
Each time I travel to the UK I have to provide an IDcard/passport.
That's not free movement, there is an actual boder to cross. Even if you take the train through the tunnel, there are border controls.
Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
Around 4.4% of the population said they were Muslim at the last census (2011). Keep in mind that the census tends to inflate the numbers because the people filling it in put their kids down as being religious when they aren't really and stop participating when they grow up.
Anyway, that's up 1.7% since 2001, so in a decade. At that rate, by 2050 a massive 10% of the population will be Muslim. I don't think we have too much to worry about.
Aren't you muslim? ISTR you saying so in one of your comments.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Say you have 1M muslims (50% female).. Each muslim female has on average 3 kids.. that will result in that million Muslims turning into 1.5 million in just one generation. Currently there is about 3M muslims in the UK so they will be 4.5M around in 5-10 years and 7.75M in 20-30 years. Values are approximate and not taking into account any type of immigration or conversions, i only considered the birthrate.
Still, quite a bit far away from being a majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Globally, Muslims have the highest fertility rate, an average of 3.1 children per woman—well above replacement level (2.1) due to young age of Muslims (median age of 23) compared to other religious groups.[3] Christians are second, at 2.7 children per woman.[4] Hindu fertility (2.4) is similar to the global average (2.5).[5] Worldwide, Jewish fertility (2.3 children per woman) also is above replacement level.[6] All the other groups have fertility levels too low to sustain their populations and would require converts to grow or maintain their size: indigenous and tribal religions (1.8 children per woman), other religions (1.7), the unaffiliated (1.7) and Buddhists (1.6).[7]
I don't care if someone believes in some strange magician in the sky, as long as they don't restrict me and others in what we can do/say/think.
I'll comment on the "Life in the UK" test only as I've done it recently.
There's a small book with a summarised history of the UK and little boxes with factoids to memorise. It's not the most fascinating read ever (IMHO) and I've forgotten a lot of what's on there.
If I wanted to pass the exam again, I'd skip the book and just use the many free online test websites for practice. I'm sure that any UK native could do the same and achieve similar results to mine: I spent longer signing up and confirming my ID than I did answering the very basic multiple-choice test.
The paperwork for proving 5 consecutive years of residence (and employment) and the fees charged are a much bigger barrier to obtaining British nationality. For Non-EU27 people, it's much more expensive than the already extortionate £1200+ they charge for the naturalisation fee. In Germany it's about EUR200.
Around 4.4% of the population said they were Muslim at the last census (2011). Keep in mind that the census tends to inflate the numbers because the people filling it in put their kids down as being religious when they aren't really and stop participating when they grow up.
Anyway, that's up 1.7% since 2001, so in a decade. At that rate, by 2050 a massive 10% of the population will be Muslim. I don't think we have too much to worry about.
Beyond that, what makes these fools think that they're all going to be bent on establishing a caliphate. Most immigrant Muslims are happy to be here, doing menial jobs for decent pay (on a global scale) instead of back in their home countries eeking out a living, never getting ahead.
Someone on minimum wage here in the UK can have a decent used car, late model phone, decent accommodation and no debt. That's what being a developed country means.
The problem the UK has been having with extremists of late has been mostly with 2nd or beyond generations, people born here in the UK and I'm willing to bet a lot of that can be traced back to worsening economic conditions in the UK rather than ISIS recruiting. Take the Westminster attacker. UK born, converted to Islam in prison, was in prison because of a history of violent offences. a 20% increase in his bills would definitely have driven him over the edge.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
It's just a different way of selecting representatives for the people. One which has built-in limitations in terms of removing said peers, but also has traditional constraints on their actions. I come from the US. I am resistant to the idea of a ruling class, but that doesn't mean I am blind to its existence.
It basically comes down to: would you rather have your ruling class composed of people who made a lot of money (or inherited it!) in the economy, or who just got the position via heredity? I don't see all that much to choose between either.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
You'd be surprised. It is like the Nguyen surname in Vietnam - 40% of the population have it. It is anecdotal evidence, but all my Arab colleagues at the company I work for have Mohammed as their first name, so others have to called them Mohammed the Elder, Mohammed the younger, Mohammed the new guy, Mo and so on.
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Because if they be consistent, they're giving away their bargaining position and letting "them" plan to exploit their discussion limits. But if they don't say anything, they're hiding from "the people's will" to brexit, even though for every thousand people, there are several thousand different ideas of what brexit is (because each one has several, depending on how you phrase it or the context the query is brought up in). And when they vacillate, they're lambasted for being weak and flopping.
It IS the tories' fault for trying this stupid idea to kill UKIP support (which worked, but only by mutually assured destruction), but lets blame them for what they're guilty of, not what situation we put them in.
Thanks.
Free Movement of British Citizens To EU Will End in 2019.
And not than much will change as the EU was never part of The Schengen. Area so free movement was already not possible. They also where not part of the Eurozone.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
It's waaaaay more complicated than you seem to think it is. Like, waaaaaaaaaaay more.
This takes time to arrange, though, and the UK doesn't have the time or negotiators to achieve it in the time available. The UK has relied on the EU for so much of its negotiation that it is simply ill-equipped to strike out on its own without spending a lot of time and effort in replacing these negotiators. It also doesn't help that great swathes of support staff for all national institutions are from the EU, and those workers might just choose to leave, as the guarantees regarding their loved ones' ability to stay with them are non-existent.
And every concession from the EU will come at a price. This is what happens when you take a seat at the negotiating table. The weird thing is Britain decided to change sides of that table from the well-populated side filled to the rafters with seasoned international diplomats to sit alone on the other side, struggling to remember how this whole thing is supposed to work.
The worst part is how when immigrants or the children of immigrants want to integrate, want to be British, and these idiots tell them that they can't be. Incompatible culture, wrong accent, funny name, as if those things make people British.
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You're not too good with maths, huh?
That's absolute nonsense, but I guess if it lets you hate on innocent people with a clean conscience there's nothing I or anyone else can say which will stop you from believing it, as that would leave you in the uncomfortable position of knowing you're a horrible person, with no excuses left.
It seems you're looking for any excuse to forgive your hate. I thought you were better than this.
And the bible instructs people are to be murdered for leaving Christianity... I don't see why one's OK and the other not. I do see how xenophobes see a difference, however, not that I'm saying you are one.
Nice straw man.
Did you buy it or make it yourself?
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See: http://www.migrationobservator...
Neither the Tories nor Labour endorse any plans to deport all Muslims out of the UK, despite the fact that ALL the attacks in the UK have been done by Muslims, and that too in the name of allah.
How fuckingly stupid can be you? One word: IRA. Details at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
To paraphrase Obama, the 20th century called! They want their meme back!
The papacy, however was 100% against that, as it said that principalities could chose not to part of the res publica Christiana.. This was a compromised used to avoid bloodshed after the worst of the Wars of Religion was over. From our perspective it may sound weird, in the same way that "an eye for an eye" sounds weird. An eye for an eye was justice that prevented clan warfare (thing Montagues v Capulets).
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Except if true. Right?
Are you saying that this is not happening?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
It was In/Out - okay put in slightly more descriptive terms on the ballot, but the vote was simply polarised.
There was nothing on the ballot about reducing immigration or having tariff free trade with Europe.
- On the point of a deadline, how many Europeans will flood to the UK before they close the door? And if It's so bad to be outside the EU, why do they keep coming in their 100s of 1000s?
To be fair, you did have 5 years to save up that 1200, it's only 5 quid a week.
ahaha! You call this fair?! :D
Why exactly would anyone want to save up £5 a week specifically for changing nationality 5 years later, if the letter and the spirit of the law is precisely that people can move to other countries without having to acquire citizenship or get a visa?
A generation is about 20 years, not 5-10.
If data disproves my point, I'll move the goalposts!
Well it wasn't in the top 100 on the list that I linked, that the list was not from most viewed names was quite hidden on that site.
They figure if they can wait long enough, they can replace the will of the people with the will of the Eurocrats.
Apparently Brussels (and the fellow travellers in London) doesn't like it when commoners try to flee the plantation. Silly modbombers.
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