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Disney To Pull Its Movies From Netflix and Start Its Own Streaming Service (theverge.com)
Disney announced today that it will end its distribution deal with Netflix and launch its own streaming service in 2019. "The move is a real blow to Netflix, which secured a valuable streaming deal with Disney back in 2012 -- before streaming had really taken off," reports The Verge. "The deal only kicked into effect last year, so Netflix is barely seeing any benefit here." From the report: Netflix won't lose its Disney movies right away. Disney says it plans to cut Netflix off starting with the studio's 2019 films, and Netflix says it'll be able to keep all the Disney movies it gets through the end of that year. That means Netflix should be able to stream the next two Star Wars movies, but it'll miss out on the new trilogy's final installment. "We continue to do business with the Walt Disney Company on many fronts, including our ongoing deal with Marvel TV," said a spokesperson for Netflix. Disney's streaming service will be built off technology from BAMTech, the MLB-founded video streaming platform. Disney was already a major investor in BAMTech, and today it's making an even bigger investment -- of $1.58 billion -- giving it a 75 percent stake in the company. The acquisition still requires regulatory approval. The Disney-branded streaming service will be the "exclusive home in the U.S. for subscription-video-on-demand viewing," and will kick off with films including Toy Story 4 and the sequel to Frozen. "Original movies, TV shows, [and] short-form content" will be added to the service, and it'll be filled out with older movies from Disney and Pixar's catalog and shows from Disney's TV channels. The report also notes Disney plans to launch a streaming service exclusively for ESPN, targeted for launch early next year. "Disney is promising about '10,000 live regional, national, and international games and events a year,' with individual sports packages available as well," reports The Verge.
When do the other movie studios pull their licensing and NetFlix only has original content? And is the Disney service going to be as good or better than the NetFlix experience?
Full Disclaimer: I'm glad Bambi's mom died.
This all resembles when the studios vertically "integrated" the movie houses... And were eventually forced to divest.
Let's see... What all does Comcast own/control.
No, we don't need network neutrality
I won't even notice they're gone. I refuse to watch their content even when it is present.
I don't have time or budget to deal with more than two paid streaming services. Billing, passwords, setting up and maintaining devices, etc is a real hassle.If it's not on either service, I am not going to watch it. Period.
I have Netflix, and I have Amazon Prime*
This is plenty, I can watch 99% of what I want, and if it's critically important (movie night with friends), we'll do a 24 hour streaming rental. Maybe when we have kids we'll dump netflix for disney, but until that day, we'll just stop watching disney movies. It's just not worth it as an adult with limited free time, a commute and other priorities.
*We do have HBO now, through Prime, but we're huge Game of Thrones nerds, and it bills/streams through the Amazon Prime app so it's pretty low hassle
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They should pull all of their networks and programs and move them all to their own service. Then I'll never have to give them any money and they can go fuck themselves.
That means Netflix should be able to stream the next two Star Wars movies, but it'll miss out on the new trilogy's final installment.
and nothing of value was lost...
Coming soon to a home theater near you... every studio known to world+dog decides to stream separately.. and we're stuck with an ala-carte menu that we can't afford.
I just was thinking yesterday: Know what I need? Another streaming service in my life!
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Disney, more than any other content producer/distributor, has a massive catalog with a very well-defined market. They'll probably pull stuff like streaming movies that are in the "Disney Vault" (that's code for artificially scarce films that aren't as good as you remember anyway).
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No way am I going to sign up for Disney's streaming service. There are too many streaming services already and I'm going to stick with the successful ones that have the broadest offerings.
If I were Disney, I would be pushing for a fair revenue sharing deal. Push Netflix to share out their revenue to the content providers according to the fraction of time watched, and push Netflix to provide transparency so this can be audited. Netflix, in turn, should charge a reasonable delivery/infrastructure fee, and share out the revenue for content "blind" to where the content comes from. I.e., if their own content generation produces 30% of the viewing, their own content generation division gets 30% of the content revenue.
--PeterM
I wonder if this has to do with the Vid Angel/Disney lawsuit and the recent workaround that allows Vid Angel to filter Disney movies on Netflix. By moving their movies off of Netflix, they effectively block Vid Angel again.
"The move is a real blow to Netflix, which secured a valuable streaming deal with Disney back in 2012 -- before streaming had really taken off,"
How is this a blow to Netflix. No shot in hell I'm paying for another streaming service just for Disney's dinky library. So this just means I will torrent the Disney movies and Netflix can free up some revenue for other movies or more original content.
It's so hard keeping my daughter from watching their two hour advertisements. I'm honestly extremely happy they are pulling out.
Disney already tried this with licensing out their characters to other companies to produce video games. They decided to stop that practice entirely and use an in-house game studio instead. Their games went to shit. Then a couple years later, they started licensing out again.
I have a feeling that history will repeat itself with this news of licensing streaming content.
I hope they like reduced income!
Because this is how you get reduced income.
I'm sure EA still congratulates themselves every day for how many more sales they got from leaving Steam too. But hey, now they get 15% more on the (guessing) 75% reduced online sales on PC, and everyone who DOES enjoy their service enjoys having to have an extra piece of software and sets of logins to manage!
Same story here - soon folks who use the new 'service' have got to manage their "Disney Account". have another icon on your viewing platform, keep track of what your kids are clicking into. Oh, and expect your kids to ask you about their new 'service' after playing any games on the Disney family of websites.
I'm just guessing they want to implement some form of pay-per-view DLC in their new online system, perhaps 'upgrading' to see behind-the-scenes and the like.
After all, that's the kinds of things you have to promise stock holders when you rip your product from the biggest online market and set up your own shop.
I've known folks who've worked for them and their technical divisions - I'm sure it'll be 'wildly popular' in the room, with just the largest eye roll the moment they're talking with anyone technically minded outside of that room. Every CEO that works for them gets into this same illusion-of-control trap that everyone ends up having to cater to, while losing the vast majority of the income they could be making by trying to treat everyone like theme park visitors.
The good news is that this will lead to another generation of young folks raised on seeing how foolish such systems are, and figuring out lovely ways to bypass them. I was worried that some reasonably ubiquitous online service with comfortably minimal prices would lead to a slacking of that trend - but no, greed always finds a way to screw itself over while making it enjoyable for those clever enough to bypass that greed.
The titan of original content..... The coolest of the streams, and the great keeper of the DVDs.... ***NETFLIX***!!!!
(crowd wildly chanting "STREAM-ING STREAM-ING")
vs
(fog machines to full blast)
The dark cabal of children's entertainment!!, the cartoonists you love to hate!!... the gatekeepers of American football, the extenders of copyright law!! The champions of the DMCA!.....MARVEL/ABC/DISNEY/ESPN!!!!!!!
(booooooooo)
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
Another win for consumers! One step closer to the Nirvana where every show has its own monthly subscription service.
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In a clearing house model you have one middle man that deals with all the content owners. The problem is the clearing houses today (aka cable and satalite) force an all or nothing model. Let the customers pick and have more options not loaded with ads. That solves everything.
Wikipedia lists about 500 feature films from the 1930s onward.
Also a large number of television series.
Soon there will be so many streaming services that if you want to be able to watch everything you're going to pay more money than the cable subscription you canceled.
What the heck is the point? We're back to square one: It's too damn expensive, might as well pirate the content.
Save the moral arguments; it doesn't matter. There's a point where the cost involved becomes prohibitive, and people still want to see the content. Make of that what you will.
Cut the Cable and go to streaming to save money...
More and more companies start their own steaming service and remove their shows from the existing services...
Now you'll have to subscribe to a half dozen or more streaming services to see the shows you might be interested in...
Cable prices aren't looking as crazy anymore...
This will be good for Roku and Apple TV and similar boxes that can be upgraded with the latest streaming service to come online. I really liked the smart TVs that we got that had all of the streaming services you need built in, but with new services popping up left and right the manufacturers have little incentive to provide upgrades.
When we cut the cord, we started out with Netflix and Amazon Prime. Over time we added movies and series purchased on Vudu (usually when Amazon streaming speeds were sucking rocks), an HBO Go subscription, a Hulu subscription, various add-ons to Amazon Prime (starz, Cinemax, Acorn, etc.) and most recently a BritBox subscription.
I think we are almost at the point where we are paying as much for all of the subscription services as we did for cable.
As much as I used to like Star Trek, I can't bring myself to subscribe to another service just for that.
I think we've bought more than one movie twice because my wife forgot she already bought it on Amazon or Vudu. And I think we've got different seasons of the same series purchased on different services. It is too much to keep track of.
If cable was "a la carte", it'd already be done for all the studios.
...content providers still haven't got this by now. When you pay for internet access you expect access to all the internet. This paying a premium for premium access will never fly.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Netflix. HBO. Amazon. Hulu. And now, Disney.
You know, the reason people started cutting cords was due to the fucking cost being forced upon us. $100 split across half a dozen streaming services is just as financially painful as a $100 cable bill. I hope Disney finds a loss with this bullshit move.
Toy Story 4 and Frozen 2? Way to "innovate" with yet another channel full of fucking sequels. Gee, can't wait for Star Wars, Episode 27. How original.
I am no Netflix fan (in fact just cancelled after the latest price hikes and screw you's they gave to customers in Australia), BUT fucking Disney is just showing yet again their heads are wedged firmly up their arses and trying to continue the traditional distribution models and locking viewers out of anything but a very narrow option. I don't care what movies they have or that my family wants I will pirate them before I support such douchebaggery.
The convenience of streaming I understand. It is superior to torrents. But I'll never sub to any of these streaming services unless they change the way they deliver the media itself. Torrents still offer the best product, its playable in anything, offline, high bitrate, and editable.
Then theres how they get paid. On Steam for example, I can pay a developer of a game directly. That means money goes exactly where I want it to go. The content creators I like stay in business meanwhile for her 'netflix special' amy schumer is still getting a cut of everyones sub.
This also solves a networking issue: peak congestion. If people can download and store what they want to watch, they don't all get home at the same time and start streaming it, throwing a big wrench in every ISPs contention ratio and slowing everything to a crawl.
And Steam has also proved it can handle large file sizes, as video games are now what would equate to multiple seasons of compressed video in not 'network extorted' bitrates.
Disney content sucks and for just a few pennies discount on Netflix I'd be more than happy to see it go away.
Seeing that I live in Australia, I am sure this service will be denied to me, in any case, as I am sure Foxtel will have exclusive rights and will try to continue to enforce their ludicrous 1990's approach of making people sign up for Rugby, Cricket and some other shit sport I don't care about in order to watch one TV show at about $79 a month. Currently, if you want Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley, legally, in Australia, you're compelled to buy multiple different "packs" from these clowns and the price really is $79 a month. Or you can buy Private Internet Access for about $15 a year and torrent.... Why do you think Australia leads the world in piracy?
I swear, everybody wants a piece of the streaming pie, but, AGAIN, they have NO CLUE what consumers want (or they just don't care - in which case, fuck them all). They had a much better chance bundling under Amazon Prime, Netflix, or Hulu, and that way consumers still had a better option than premium cable.
I will NOT pay for a streaming service for every channel or studio that broadcasts 1-2 things I watch. That being said, goodbye Disney. You can join the ranks of all the other morons in media I've disowned (HBO, Showtime, CBS, etc).
Cheers.
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"Disney is promising about '10,000 live regional, national, and international games and events a year,' with individual sports packages available as well,"
They've obviously got the circuses part down. All we need now is the bread.
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Love the balkanization tag. Everybody is against monopolies in principle, but the minute we have to open our pocketbooks to pay for a competing service we become robber barons.
That debate aside, how in the goshdarn heck does it take Disney (a company that had 55.63 billion USD of revenue just last year!) *two flipping years* to roll out a Netflix competitor?! They knew streaming was something to be exploring a decade (or more) ago, they just paid $1.58 billion into an established streaming platform, and now that they are embarrassingly late to the party they make a formal announcement - and it's going to take two *more* years to get rolling?
Yeah yeah, deployment is hard. Anticipatory scaling is hard. What you mean by 'hard' is 'requires exponentially more resources to do more quickly', but this is *Disney* we're talking about here, maybe the only media company that has had a legit technology skunkworks operating for the past ~50 years. Much of their film catalog is already digital. Streaming tech is a solved problem. Bandwidth concerns go away if you adopt the Netflix model and plunk down a bunch of regional servers, which Disney could certainly afford to do, and soon. I wouldn't expect any of this to happen overnight, but I *would* expect Disney to get itself established in this market two years ago, not two years from now! What, exactly, is the hold up here? This feels less like Disney waking up after being asleep at the wheel all this time, and more like Disney putting a brick on the gas pedal and crawling into the back seat to resume its refreshing little nap.
You can only charge me for the Blu-ray one time!
And ESPN? I WON'T BE MISSING THAT!
Locking it all down for Disney. Doing that so they have full legal control, attack and defence sorted takes time.
subscriber for years, didn't notice.
They should ask EA and Ubisoft how well trying to run your own distribution channel works when you only have a limited amount of content.
I'm paying for Netflix. I'm not subscribing to every single network that thinks it can do better. Plus, if it's on Netflix I know I can watch it on every device I have. It's not like some things only work on TVs, others on PCs, and yet others on tablets.
Piss off, Disney.
I have a sub to Netflix and I have a sub to Amazon Prime.
That's all I'm investing in.
DC wants their own streaming network for additional money. Fuck them.
Disney wants their own streaming network for additional money. Fuck them.
I don't get cable TV because I already pay $150/month for my internet service and I don't really watch anything on TV.
For the few things I have an interest in, I'm not going to pay additional amounts of money for multiple networks that essentially add up to a cable TV bill.
If I can't get the shit I want on Netflix or Amazon, I simply won't watch. Plain and simple.
COULD I afford it? Sure. Will I allow myself to be repeatedly "held up" for yet ANOTHER subscription service?
HELL THE FUCK NO.
And I, frankly, don't see what's wrong with continuing to license older content to another streaming network, and hold your own new content strictly to your network (outside of purchases) for 4-6 months. This way you continue bringing in licensing bucks and can still present on your own network for essentially no cost.
But no! It's not like Disney is sitting on a NINETY YEAR CACHE OF CONTENT or anything.
It's not like Warner Brothers has NINETY FIVE YEARS OF CONTENT.
With all of the studios that have come, gone, merged, etc, there are literally tens (if not hundreds) of millions of hours of content out of the major studios in the past century. Even if only one percent of which was considered "worthwhile", that's still hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of hours of excellence in programming. That's more than anyone could watch in a given lifetime. And that's before taking into account the pleasures of repeat viewing.
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THANK GOD!!!
I swtch between Netflix and Amazon every 6 months. That way I can watch new content and not pay two services.
1. fired IT dept..replaced with subcontinent slaves. 2. Kids watch own streams, and are way better at pirating than dad...way better 3. I cut the cord BECAUSE of Disney. When ESPN made the cable companies add a non negotiable Sports Fee of $7 per month I decided that paying $84 per year to Disney for NO REASON (don't watch sports, ESPN, or subscribe to a sports package) was just stupid. -snip- No Regrets...at all.
Does Disney plan on supporting all currently supported Netflix devices? If not, then they'll be reducing their potential audience.
have found the cut cord and replaced it and are AMAZED by all the free undemanded media available over this unidirectional wireless medium known as digital television.
Seriously though, all the retro crap happening today, vinyl, cassettes, etc is pushback against this digital enslavement push. I personally am cynical, think it is a fad and things will only continue to get worse, but maybe society and humans in general will surprise me, and make a march towards 'individual freedom' again.
HBO is good. Disney better not force ESPN on people to get this.
and they own star wars and are going to fuck over Indy in indiana Jones 5.
1. I pay $11/mo to Netflix. I'm not giving another $15 to HBO and another $15 to Starz and another $15 to SHO and another $15 to Disney.
2. I can't think of the last fucking movie from Disney that I have given a shit about in the last 20 years, except a few (and not all) Pixar flicks.
3. Fuck you.
Drives piracy. They need to all show each others content or stop whining about piracy. I seriously cannot be bothered to sign up with 75 streaming services. Piracy is the only one stop shop.
Additionally it is disturbing that it is being the norm that one must share their identity and billing address just to watch anything. I dont think media outlets should be on anything but a cash relationship with the public.
It is hugely dystopian that they link your identity to your viewing habits. One day brown shirts will show up and use the lists of personal belief knowledge they gain against us.
Unless you can pay with cash, piracy is the superior outlet medium at the moment for the public good. I want to pay for shows I like, but it needs to be on healthy terms.
I am not subscribing to any new services, especially single broadcast services like HBOGo, this new Disney channel, WWE Network or UFC Fight Pass. If Netflix or Hulu don't have it, I will ignore it. If my wife really wants it, there is bittorrent. Same goes for music and Spotify. They can have my money, but there is only so many places I will throw it to. Single broadcaster services are not getting my money ever. Im willing to meet them half way but if they are not willing to go to services that people are already at, then IMO they can get fucked, I will just go back to torrenting or ignoring them completely.
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They would be getting payments without any overhead continuing current licensed model: no streaming service to maintain, no coders (see where Disney has outsourced in the past to manage costs), etc.
Core business is all they should be focused and quit trying to reinvent the wheel.
Didn't Disney already try its own streaming service? I thought they had one, and then canned it because of how horribly unpopular it was.
Disney will take itself off Google and launch a competing search engine. They'll call it something cool like Infoseek or Go.com. I'm sure it's going to be very successful.
I don't see what's wrong with continuing to license older content to another streaming network
You would think that it would be in their best interest to release content to at least one competing streaming service after 6-12 months in order to avoid antitrust regulations. As someone upstream mentioned, when movie theaters were studio specific, the feds eventually became involved and broke the system up.
Netflix has realised that basically the rest of the world is pretty profitable once you know how to cut down on fraud and keep your library as consistent as possible...
sure as a producer you can get distribution deals with large media companies (e.g. British sky or Australian foxtel ) but do you want one big bang ?
or lots of micro payments and some big ones mixed in.... ?
Disney's approach is american centric and a train wreck of licensing sport from the start... good luck with that I'm sure those BAMTech people will be enjoying themselves on someone else's coin...
Now there's a dedicated streaming service deddicated to more overflowing lebron james koolaid
Disney in an uproar as piracy soars. Demands Congress increases copyright protection to life of the universe + 100 years.
Fragmenting the streaming services will only encourage people to cut them like the cut the cord with cable.
Why should I be expected to pay 10 bucks a month or so on several different platforms to watch stuff (which isnt very good anymore anyways). Piracy looks more and more acceptable.
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HBO is good. Disney better not force ESPN on people to get this.
and they own star wars and are going to fuck over Indy in indiana Jones 5.
In our efforts to go green, we've taken the concept of recycling a bit too far. A movie only succeeds today if it's fractured into two dozen 5-minute action sequences, stitched across a predictable story with a cast of familiar characters, all in order to guarantee an ability to regurgitate another one next year. Perhaps the death of the attention span is more to blame when catering to the simple masses.
I loved Indiana Jones. I have zero interest in seeing yet another Indy movie. Sadly, Stallone will probably be boxing soon, and Ahnold already confirmed he'll be back to killing it with robotic one-liners. The A-list of actors today reads like an AARP convention, which tends to say a lot about the value of the next generation.
Just like Disney Keychest and UltraViolet.
Pretty much inevitable once Netflix got into the content biz. What remains to be seen is whether Disney will court other content houses like Sony to become something people will pay for. If it's Disney content alone, I wish them luck.
In fact, forget the streaming service.
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This is really about shoring up the revenue streams. ESPN has had layoffs and major drops in revenue, and it's only going to get worse over the next several years. The whole model is changing, and C-suite types are going to get desperate.
Make love, not reality television.
Disney and a bunch of the other big new content companies should create two new Netflix like companies. It shouldn't be any one production company as it is not good to have 50 major streaming sites.
What is Netflix? Is it available over cable, phone line, the air?
Soon the only place you can find all the content you want to watch will be cable.
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I loved Indiana Jones. I have zero interest in seeing yet another Indy movie.
I would watch a series of "Young Indiana Jones" movies, but frankly after you beat the Nazis and find the Holy Grail and so on you've basically peaked.
Will ensure I NEVER sign up for their streaming service. They tried it before and failed. I'd buy movies and my points would expire before they were supposed to. Their support was horrible....
I'll buy the movies I want....but I am not paying for a Disney streaming service. And I think many others will not.
It lets these various content providers sell you the same thing again and again.
Netflix for movies and serials.
Disney for Disney and sports.
ESPN for sports.
MLBTV for sports.
Hulu for 'TV'
HBO for HBO
No one wants to develop a single streaming service, nor do they want to license to another one. They want the revenue stream direct to their wallets.
Ala carte? Not likely, unless you want to pay by the game, or episode.
And it is, after all, the money.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Disney is just doing what other distributors are doing. Sony is probably going to do the same thing to Crunchyroll before long. I at least hope that as content drops, so will pricing. When people have asked cable companies for a-la-carte channel selection, it was only supposed to be a few dollars a month. Maybe we will finally get our wish but we will have to skip the cable companies and go straight to the distributor streaming services. With that said, I'm not looking forward to having to actively manage 5+ streaming services accounts, wonder who has what, and keep up with additions and removals from their catalogs. Disney specifically has a bad reputation of cycling their content through the "Disney Vault" where it's just not available for years at a time.
Now that streaming is more popular than in 2012, I expect that Disney just wants to renegotiate and give the rights to the highest bidder.
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Right now, I have Netflix and Hulu (ad-free). Technically, I also have Amazon, but I've never watched anything on it, mainly because I have a big backlog of stuff on the others that I haven't watched yet, and if I keep it, it won't be because of the streaming.
For Disney to get my eyeballs, it would have to beat two established competitors on content (for someone who doesn't have kids), price (when both are pretty cheap), or both, and I can't see that happening. And, no, I'm not going to have 12 streaming services for the price I pay for cable. :p
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Know what REALLY grinds my gears? When, something on Netflix leaves; especially when it leaves to a "new" streaming service. BBC did this with Doctor Who; really pissed me off as I was halfway through season 5.
So, what did I do? You think I went and BOUGHT the new BBC streaming service? Fuck no! You think I went and bought all the Doctor Who seasons? Fuck no.
I plugged in my qBittorrent to my internets, found that magnet off the fridge, and then baym all of the seasons right there; for free, no bullshit.
@Fox; you did this with Family Guy, and American Dad; guess what, I pirated those too; fuck you faggots!
They don't want old content to compete with new content.
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive
And you can bet Netflix won't lower their pricing.
One of the predictions I made some time ago was that most of the providers and creators were going to eventually hit a point where they were going to want to control the distribution. This isn't the first time this has happened, and it's probably going to happen many times in the future, because studio executives exist in a bubble world where they believe their content is a necessity rather than a desire. As more and more people realize that content creators are holding the content hostage, more and more people will just stop watching and find other pursuits to occupy their time. This has been the fear that creators have been living with for decades, and more and more executives go into this business thinking that people "need" that content rather than "want" that content. But it's always been a cost benefit analysis that decides wants vs. needs, and as more of them suppress the ability to receive content, the fewer customers they will end up having. And the way that works is when you lose customers, you often never get them back because they find other pleasure centers that fulfill any lacks thereof. This is why CBS access is failing (and now they're trying to boost it with a promise of Star Trek), and it's probably why Disney will end up suffering as well. There's a threshold people will withstand before they just abandon ship.
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the truth is that there are too many subscription services out there - thinking of just the main ones already- Netflix, hulu, cbs all access, amazon, hbo, showtime, youtube red - and not counting the smaller services, unless you are doing something like offering discounts on other things for subscribing or like amazon, having other services that make the video subscription worthwhile, all you are doing is making the whole thing more fractured and expensive. If all of the services could somehow have a single affordable subscription rate - maybe that you could even pay annually at a discount through one service - you would be able to get a huge chunk of the public biting, but just adding another service just adds more burden, especially when so many individual services now have content that is exclusive and created by them.
Another bloody service to subscribe to. I'd sooner have one that did everything, than have to take out a sub for every producer of content.