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Department of Justice Demands Facebook Information From 'Anti-Administration Activists' (cnn.com)
PopeRatzo shares a report from CNN: Trump administration lawyers are demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users in three separate search warrants served on the social media giant, according to court documents obtained by CNN. The warrants specifically target the accounts of three Facebook users who are described by their attorneys as "anti-administration activists who have spoken out at organized events, and who are generally very critical of this administration's policies." One of those users, Emmelia Talarico, operated the disruptj20 page where Inauguration Day protests were organized and discussed; the page was visited by an estimated 6,000 users whose identities the government would have access to if Facebook hands over the information sought in the search warrants. In court filings, Talarico says if her account information was given to the government, officials would have access to her "personal passwords, security questions and answers, and credit card information," plus "the private lists of invitees and attendees to multiple political events sponsored by the page."
Careful, I think I saw a mouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZ5e94QnWk
IMPEACH DA BITCH TRUMPIES
This just isn't right. If they are seeking the ID of people who posed actual physical threats, or were involved in UNLAWFUL activity (such as genuine libel, inciting riots, participating in violence or riots, etc), that might be justified.
Being caught up in an ID disclosure just because one visited a web site or Facebook page goes well beyond what could possibly necessary.
More info needed, especially when it is a CNN article.
The Trump Administration is evil. I suppose I am now a target.
If what you're resisting is respect for people of other races, that makes you racist.
If what you're resisting is racism, that makes you not racist.
What you appear to be doing is playing word games, because it's easier to be right when you control all the words. But resisting bad things is good, and resisting good things can be bad.
Step away from the words and start working on the concepts.
Why exactly would FB have Talarico's credit card information in the first place? Is FB not free anymore?
I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i'
Oh noes, CNN sees boogeymen. So much fake news.
When real news picks it up, you'll learn it was a standard court issued warrant against rioters.
>"What you appear to be doing is playing word games, because it's easier to be right when you control all the words. But resisting bad things is good, and resisting good things can be bad."
"Bad" and "Good" are very relative, subjective, and even flexible. Apparently the mode du jur is to do bad things in the [often wrong] belief that it is for good. I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.
Some of us deplored government overreach under the previous administration, and still deplore it under the current administration.
What part of the Constitution says that?
Who could have foreseen such a surprising turn of events? A politician abusing the system like this? I mean, There weren't any signs. No lessons in history. Nothing that could have possibly warned against letting fear make people give up their power to a government that may at some point be controlled by a talking anus. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.
This president not only hasn't read the constitution, but wouldn't care even if had, and he's made that clear. Show me where the is a violent crime or public threat to people's physical safety, and perhaps I'll consider, But this is simply a witch hunt for anyone who speaks out openly against the Trump administration. American was supposed to be a place where people political opinion and protests were supposed to be allowed without government intimidation. A government elected by the people (which the electoral college vote is not I might add). This is as bad as the McCarthy days. Every time this president does something that is in violation to the constitution, there should be a vote in congress to impeach him. But of course that won't happen, until this president embarrasses this country and his party so badly that we are in danger of being cut off from the world. (Which given his UN performance, I wouldn't rule out). I suspect Facebook and other IT organizations will resist this. Perhaps Twitter should consider censoring his statements. Technically a constitutional violation as well, but ...this "twit" can do far more damage than anyone posting on Twitter of Facebook single handed.
Meanwhile, there are activist groups inside facebook and twitter scouring people's profiles and messaging data, looking for people to scapegoat as "Russian" and actively hampering their capability to exist in society (at least were a large people congregate).
There is no oversight on this, and people have gone as far as state the people in control of the larger recognizable internet have an agenda to destroy groups of people based on who they might identify with.
These internet companies can do what they will, but people here are going to say they don't have to even respond to a legal warrant, on activity during inauguration day that is out in the openly criminal? Our we a government by the people, or by Mark Zuckerberg?
You don't think that there are liberals in the military?
If the authorities have a warrant, the suspected crime should be mentionned on that warrant.
So is that it ? Is she suspected of being an "anti-administration activist who has spoken out at organized events, and who is generally very critical of this administration's policies" ? In what fucking alternate universe has this become a crime in the U.S.
But it's okay. Trump apologists will just say that Obama was worse, or that Clinton would have started a war with Russia.
I mean Trump. Seriously, fuck off you stupid son of a bitch. This has got to be a fucking joke right? What a fucking uneducated, unimportant, piece of shit 5 year old baby. Every person who voted for Trump should be kicked out of this country, they have no idea what this country was founded on or stands for, not one fucking clue.
I can't wait until the US has a President again. Having a child run this country is absolutely fucking retarded. But I guess when a bunch of retards vote for a fellow retard this is what you get....
How many months before we are ordered to water our crops with Gatorade?
I'll fucking beat your punk nazi ass if you compare white supremacy to free speech again, bitch
They want names of the Fascist Anti-Fascists... Who can't seem to stop committing VIOLENCE to prevent peoples SPEECH... Liberals and millennials are fucking lazy TRASH. You have fought no wars, shed no blood, and sacrificed NOTHING for this nation. Therefore, you deserve NOTHING!
wow... so that's why they keep trying to start wars! it all makes sense now, they were trying to save the millenials all along, of course! humans are nothing but filthy scum without wars and human sacrifice.
Some of us deplored government overreach under the previous administration, and still deplore it under the current administration.
The difference is that now you're willing to speak about it publicly.
When we used to hold the Soviet Union up to the light, we'd point to their jailing and beating and disappearances of dissidents and say "The USSR is a police state!"
Nothing's changed here except the geography. These tactics are still police state tactics, no matter which dictator-wannabe is practicing them.
John
I actually really like the Christian Conservatives for Trump page. It's pretty awesome.
There seems to be no problem with tech disclosures as long as it hits conservatives.
"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
Some of us have been complaining loudly for years and have been told to "shut up" because we have roads, education, and everything's fine.
There is a difference between resisting taxation because you don't like Obama and resisting the government trying to deport your family or take away the healthcare that is keeping you alive.
This kind of false equivalence argument is the new favourite of the far right. "Yes we are bad, but they are the same and you are a hypocrite for not acknowledging that".
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The con artist has repeatedly praised his buddy Putin at every opportunity, even going so far as to apologize for Putin's military deliberately bombing hospitals and civilians in Syria, and Russia's support for the dictator Assad.
It is well known Putin doesn't like or tolerate dissent. In Crimea, which Russia stole from the Ukraine, Russia troops went door to door in the Tartar community and rounded up anyone who spoke out against the takeover. They shut down Tartar schools and the only Tartar radio station, and forbid the teaching of the Tartar language. Just recently, Russia jailed a Tartar leader because he led protests against the Russian invasion of Crimea.
Witness now in the U.S. what the con artist is trying to do. His fragile ego can't stand anyone saying a single bad word about him and so he does this. He's only following the lead of his buddy Putin.
That using the power of the government to go after people who exercise their First Amendment rights should even be an issue speaks volumes about this administration.
I try not to get too political.
You mean to say, that you try to cover yourself with a pretense of being "not too political" in order to give a false air of legitimacy to your faux grievances?
However, I can't help but notice how it's now "your civic duty" to "resist" and generally disparage the government.
Ah, picking up the messaging of the right-wing that carried over from Reagan, huh?
Questioning their authority has long been a problem of the right-wing conservative branch. They were even worse when beating the anti-Communist drum. There's a reason why McCarthy ran rampant.
Prior to January 20, 2017, that meant you were a racist deplorable scumbag.
When you embrace Cliven Bundy, Phil Robertson, Joe Arpaio and the birther-in-chief himself, Donald Trump, does that not make you one of their racist brotherhood? I mean, it isn't like you are giving them like the love to a leper victim, you were shouting your devotion in chorus.
Still are. You can't even let NFL players kneel in protest without having a fit. You'd probably explode if they used the Black Power Salute.
Journalists were being tossed in the pokey, phones were being tapped to find "leakers", etc. Apparently, now that's all just police state tactics.
Yeah, sorry, Fox News tried that already.
The real question is, why are you so suddenly supportive of the "police" state you allegedly deplored, why do you demand everybody march to the orders of your glorious leader, why do you insist so vehemently that everything is going well and that you should get all the credit for it?
Steve is probably just disappointed he's still going to have to pay for the Wall, not the Mexicans. Sucks being lied to, doesn't it, Steve?
Either the First Amendment applies to all of us or it applies to none of us. If you can pick and choose who gets to voice their opinion, then we've all already lost.
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
Gotta hand it to Trump: he got his clueless supporters to believe that the news is all fake unless it comes from the State News Service, er I mean Fox News. Pretty impressive, really. Why worry about breaking the law when you can hide behind "fake news" like a coward?
Bashing random peoples heads in is not protected speech. I knew very well I would get modded down for my post, because of blind people like you. It wasn't long ago a bunch of Antifa thugs beat some up for having a genetic defect that prevented him from growing hair.
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Considering Liberals and ANTIFA would NEVER allow it to be built without Blowing it up, or some other act of TERRORISM, I'm not worried...
Not enough to outweigh the Gun Advocates and Conservatives who join... As most of the millennials are all still in Liberal arts and Gender Studies for 4 more years! :-P
The organizers of #disruptj20 were caught, on camera, planning various attacks on people attending the inaugural ball, including the part where they wanted to use butyric acid in the A/C systems to cause everyone to panic and evacuate into the crowd of protesters outside.
So they're investigating a crime here, not searching randomly for people "critical" of the administration.
Are they investigating "bashing random peoples heads in" or are they "demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users in three separate search warrants"? Those are two very different conversations and you really need to make up your mind which one you want to talk about.
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
None, because my statement didn't quote it... Violence against Free Speech is Pathetic. I don't need the constitution to tell me that. If YOU do... YOU are whats wrong with America.
Nope same difference.
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Those who defend those who attack one of the most Valued Freedoms in the Known world.... Are The enemies of Everything America Stands for.
Look up purity ponies. Plenty idiots on the left think Obama/Clinton are as bad as Trump.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
That fact that a CNN article is on the front page of Slashdot says a lot. Eating it up without question just shows people here have no clue what's going down in this country.
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You don't think liberals have guns?
And who says one needs to outweigh the other?
You're just full of BS, aren't you?
You seriously underestimate the 200 million Legal Gun Owners of America... Excellent!
The ONLY reason you aren't living in the Reich TODAY, is because of Men Like MY Grandfather, who has a purple heart AND medal of honor for his service in World War 2... My Family Killed Nazis BEFORE YOU WERE BORN ... Punk!
See, that is the kind of lazy use of English that makes people not listen to you, Ami. ... your "resisting the government trying to deport your family" can also be written as "legally deporting people who are in the country illegally, many of whom have made no effort to become citizens"" and your "take away the healthcare that is keeping you alive" can be written as "I just want to make up false stories about what might be in a healthcare bill I never read". Please try to stick to facts if you intend to malign large groups of people, some of whom are more than tired of your slant on things.
Hmmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
The problem is that your argument is based on a false premise: that Donald Trump is racist. There is no evidence of that, yet the left just keeps repeating it over and over. Protip: repeating a falsehood does not make it true.
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Trump administration lawyers are demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users in three separate search warrants served on the social media giant, according to court documents obtained by CNN.
"Trump Administration Lawyers?" Can legal counsel to the President obtain search warrants? DoJ lawyers maybe, but not Trump Admin flacks I don't think. CNN and their weasel-wordy ways!
You know,no matter how much those precious "gun owners" shout it, they've never fought for liberty or justice.
Antifa are the real patriots. Just like the Soviets branded the mujaheddin as terrorists, so will Trump's government. While these days I can no longer provide stinger missiles through the mail, you citizen can do your part and send your local Antifa a bike lock or two to an activist in need.
Protip: repeating a falsehood does not make it true.
Unless your name is Trump, I suppose...
Why would I do that? I'm one of them. You seriously underestimate me. I reject every part of your OP as BS, and now you're getting OT trying to start some kind of war between parties. Not all speech is protected as "free speech", Not all liberals are lazy trash (though there are plenty on both sides who are), liberals have fought wars, shed blood, etc., and the constitution says everyone deserves certain things (i.e. not "nothing"). So go take your BS russian troll self and buzz off!
They're demanding all the information of people who had direct participation in an account integral in setting up riots during the inauguration. They will then cross reference this information with all the people they arrested and charge any successful hits with conspiracy as well as the other charges they're up on.
Haven't you impeached this orange clown yet? The GOP wrap themselves in the flag whilst enabling a foreign adversary to manipulate what you call democracy, solely because it gets their snouts in the trough.
There's enormous evidence for it. His positions on Muslims, Mexicans, black football protestors, and refusal to denounce white power marches are all strong evidence that he's a racist.
What you mean is that there's no proof. And you're right. It is 100% impossible to prove someone is a racist. Even if they say, "I'm a racist," they could be lying.
I think the word racist is used too often when describing his supporters. But that doesn't mean there's not strong evidence that he, himself, is a racist.
Except for the fact that about 1/3 of them are Veterans... do you think Before or After you babble Bullshit?
I'm as IRISH as they come fukstik... And ANTIFA Threatening everyone CERTAINLY isn't protected speech. But you all seem to want to give them a PASS on that. When they crack open a camera-mans Skull with a bike lock for not agreeing with them, or Attacking 60 year old women, and the THOUSANDS of other examples I could give. ANTIFA and Their TROLLS, display some of the MOST unpatriotic, Pathetic, UNAMERICAN behavior I have seen in my 40 years on the planet. They have you drinking the kool-aid. Clearly. FYI, millennials have never SEEN a war. So how, pray-tell could they have fought in one? LOL (A Few Liberal Maybe, but typically they are the conscientious objectors... At least as far as history is concerned.)
The constitution doesn't say that "everyone deserves certain things" - the constitution lays out a blueprint for a limited form of government. You're confusing that with the Declaration of Independence.
I think you overestimate your opinion of yourself.
So go take your BS antiFa troll self and buzz off!
Cite some instances of dissident disappearances in the US. Real cites, not just hearsay.
Bill Clinton bombed a country to change the headlines during his BJ scandal. It didn't work. His crazy wife believed he didn't get a BJ and defended him before it was proven then she just started acting like it didn't mean anything anyways when it was. Bat shit crazy lady WTF...
Bill Clinton brought us the DMCA. Never forget that.
The only reason people in Houston ever even heard of or voted for Obama is the word "Obamamoney" and they literally thought they would get paid if he won...
Most of these fools are engaged in terrorism. They are unwilling to tolerate people they disagree with so they challenge states monopoly on violence to achieve their political objectives. Of course this or any government is going to go after them.
"Bad" and "Good" are very relative, subjective, and even flexible.
Are they? They usually boil down to Me=Good and Opposing Me=Bad.
Apparently the mode du jur is to do bad things in the [often wrong] belief that it is for good.
You mean the ancient and eternal standard.
I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.
But were you taught that what's right, and what's wrong, can change places in the span of making toast for breakfast?
So again, you demonstrate how they have never fought for liberty or justice, at most, they were deceived into thinking they were.
And sadly, not even then for many.
Strange, a world where you hope a man is a victim of deceit just to save his soul.
Your Grandfather has a Medal of Honor? Not many of those were awarded. You need to back that one up, just who was he?
It's not because I don't like obama, it's Obamacare which is an unfair tax, that I don't like.
Taking away healthcare is a BS argument because I'm financing your BS heathcare by resisting the tax. And I don't know you, if you die I don't care. You won't care when I die so that's how that goes. Death is the biggest part of anyone's existence.
Sickly Lives Do Not Matter Enough To Justify A Tax That Just Bails Out Irresponsible Insurance Companies.
...in your world, as a White man, to resist deportation in mexico or some other turd world country? I'll just answer the question for you. It would be wrong of me to resist it because that would be Colonialism. Regular White working class men (and an increasing amount of White women as well) are getting sick and fucking tired of the leftist judeo-bolshevik bullshit. You fucking people are traitors of the worst kind.
And leave my karma alone you filthy SJW morons!
National Socialism is the only true way of life for real White Men so fuck off with your idiocy.
Das ist "Papiere, Bitte!" ... in the good ol' US of A.
LOL home of the free LMAO home of the brave
To be honest, from a familial perspective: Ethnically German. Blond hair, blue eyes. Living in the Reich wouldn't have changed the lives of people fitting that description very much. Maybe the beer and sausage would be better.
So many deserve nothing, in your opinion, being so proud of your grandfather that served for nothing. Maybe we should have let them win. We would not have any of the current social or political problems that we argue about. Our engineering would be better too. Maybe even a vacation home on Mars by now. Service medals stopping that from happening ring hollow.
I note that you conveniently leave out the part where #disruptj20 was caught on camera plotting to attack people at the inaugural ball? Or how they planned to chain trains and otherwise shut down DC? Have we forgotten about violent assaults like the woman whose hair was lit on fire?
They're investigating all of the people who were plotting violent attacks, including the planned release of butyric acid into the ventilation systems of the ball. Oh, that's just a "stink bomb" you say, but c'mon, really? You expect people to identify which acid they're breathing in and not be forced to evacuate the building into a pile of police and protesters on a freezing cold day?
Sorry, but this is a criminal act that they're investigating. They're allowed to find out who was involved in it and given that #disruptj20 was criminal, they have reasonable suspicion to look at anyone involved. You don't get to plot crimes and then complain because the police are investigating. They're going after #disruptj20 because the leaders of it were caught planning criminal activity, not because they criticized the president.
The people who tried to attack others at the inauguration knew or should've known what they were getting into.
Anyone who disagrees with me is Russian, so I don't have to answer their points. Time to lament how we live in a post-fact world, that's another good way to avoid dealing with inconvenient facts.
> The gov't should investigate people based on their threat risk
Why do you think they aren't?
Here's video evidence of some of the crimes #disruptj20 was plotting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZSfhd1X_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbkYLI1nY
And here is one of those 'peaceful protesters' at the inauguration lighting a lady's hair on fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY5WTDgV4ik
There's no reason for society to pick & choose, they should arrest ALL people plotting or performing violent acts.
You have like 3mil more people with insurance, but everyone now has a product that only gives them about one third of the value it once did for the money.
Less racist than Black Lives Matter, whose name is an explicit statement of racism and black supremacism.
At least the Trump administration is getting warrants to have a closer look at people who might have non-peaceful or non-democratic opposition to the Trump administration, which he is within his right to do. The Obama regime on the other hand, performed warrantless mass surveillence on everyone, including Trump himself.
Left state news = CNN and NPR
Right state news =Fox
No, Trump is NOT going after everybody who opposed him. The DoJ is going after the violent thugs who were beating up people and damaging property back around the inauguration. Those antifa-type thugs were not just innocent people who disliked/disagreed with the election of Donald Trump - they were engaging in political violence, assaulting people who had taken a different political position ---- an action which is, by definition, terrorism. This investigation is like any organized crime or RICO investigation; it's looking for accomplices to the criminal violence.
Incidentally, just how many Mitt Romney or John McCain supporters marched in mobs through the streets beating people up, smashing windows and lighting stuff on fire after Obama's 2008 and 2012 victories???
Political violence ALWAYS comes from the left. Every assain in US history was to the left of his target. Even the brown-shirted thugs on 1930s Germany were from the National Socialist German Workers' Party. It's ALWAYS from the left. Before some ignoramus pops off about Tim McVeigh (a nearly lone example in the US from the apparent political right) let me point out that we was lashing out at a specific field office of a specific government agency in revenge for its torching of a bunch of civilians at Waco (an evil act by McVeigh, but NOT supported by ANYBODY on the right, and NOT the intentional targeting of random civilians to make a political point). McVeigh was a vile person doing an evil mass-murder and ended up being very rightfully put down like a rabid dog, but his action was not actually terrorism by classical definition, nor an explicitly partisan political act like an assasination. Plenty of his target FBI people were on the political right themselves and nobody of any note on the right opposed his prosecution and execution.
And by "involved", you mean everyone who ever looked at their Facebook page?
You're citing Project Veritas videos as evidence, dude. How many times do you need James O'Keefe to be exposed as a fraudster before you'll learn?
You are welcome on my lawn.
No, not supremacy, you ignoramus. Matter, as in the opposite of 'not matter', as in it's not okay to arrest or shoot or do anything else random to them.
By use of your failing logic, then Blue Lives Matter is police supremacist.
Idiot.
Black people have had enough of police and institutionalized racism and they are trying to let people know they are tired of it. But if a black person gets 'uppity', as a moron like you might say, and tries to defend their value as a human, you get all twisted up about that.
Oh yeah, fuck that dude. I tried watching Project Veritas back before the election (in the spirit of seeking multiple viewpoints), only to find it very choppy and... long on insinuations, short on substance. Very manipulative.
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If they were investigating a criminal act they wouldn't be asking Facebook for the information, they would be asking a judge for a warrant
So there with you
How many times do you need #disruptj20 and AntiFa exposed for the terrorists they are before YOU learn Ratzo?
I note you don't even attempt to deny what the video SAYS or who's saying it... just attacking the messenger of the video.
But no surprise there - you've already pivoted away from the Facebook Russian ads story.
A product of the 'department for generating ironic department names?'
Requiem for the American Dream
Pot meet kettle. https://orig00.deviantart.net/...
Anyone who doesn't see DJT's blatant racism is a literal fucked in the head retard. Sorry to break it to you. You need some mental health help and an education.
lol. Stick to the facts.... coming from a Trump supporter.
It's too bad you can't fathom irony. Or hypocrisy. Your mind would break if you tried to resolve your double think.
If only the second line of the summary said "search warrant" ... Oh wait, it does
If they are investigating a criminal act and have evidence for several plots, why don't they just get a warrant? Why ask Facebook for something that a judge can compel them to provide? Maybe the Justice Department doesn't know how warrants work?
> And by "involved", you mean everyone who ever looked at their Facebook page?
No, everyone who decided to "like" it. That's literally the first line of the first link you posted, telling us that 6,000 people apparently like endangering lots of people by putting acid into ventilation systems and whatnot.
> You're citing Project Veritas videos as evidence, dude.
And you're leaving out the full story, once again. They have people on video, that's enough for police to investigate. It'll be pretty damned clear whether they were actually preparing or not once they investigate.
> If only the second line of the summary said "search warrant" ... Oh wait, it does
This is Slashdot. A few posts up, you'll find that even the submitter didn't bother read any of this stuff.
Why do you hate freedom? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Less racist than Black Lives Matter, whose name is an explicit statement of racism and black supremacism.
Some here seem to miss the very important point that the simple words "Black Lives Matter" does nothing to indicate that any other color of life does not matter equally. Yes there are certainly those who take up the banner and misuse the concept. But the concept is fundamentally correct. To argue against the words Black Lives Matter is the same as agreeing with the prejudiced assholes in Newfoundland where the popular theme is that they dealt with their uppity native Indians long ago and they were nothing but a useless bunch of trouble makers anyway as many who live there are still lead to believe. Same thing in British Columbia where many belittle the Carrier Indians to this day and call them nothing but a "useless bunch of horse and cattle thieves". Yes prejudice is rampant and the US is not alone but it can be exposed for what it is and eventually become socially unacceptable the same way eventually misogyny will.
The truth is the lives of all races of people matter and the fact is that there are still a huge number of closet racists in the US that believe as Wallace did in "segregation now and segregation forever!" This fact creates the need for greater awareness of how fucked up the US is especially each time some racist dick head like Zimmerman in Florida gets away with murdering an innocent black.
No it is plain and simple the US is screwed by prejudice and the fact that a simple conceptual truth using the words "Black Lives Matter" can be twisted by racists to mean something other than what the words say speaks volumes about how twisted these KKK wanta bee assholes really are including a quite a few who wield power. Notice how quiet David Duke is right now, there is a reason. There are enough idiots hard at work putting forth the racist agenda that he can sit back and work on his political base in the shadows. Yes there are those within BLM who disgrace the memory of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, but the concept of Black Lives Matter is a truth and to a great many in the US a truth that burns very deeply indeed.
This message was not sent from an iPhone because Peter Sellers really was a deviated prevert without a dime for the call
I am not now a supporter of National Socialism, nor have I ever been, Mr. Mcarthy. And I don't have a Facebook account, either. I also detest the brownshirt types, like the terrorist group Antifa, who go around preemptively physically assaulting anyone who has a differing opinion. Not to mention the idiot racists often found on Slashdot.
I also know the various elements of conspiracy. It's reasonable to say that liking the Facebook page itself shouldn't be illegal, even if there might be a technical argument about trying to recruit people to an attempt to cause a violent riot. But it's not unreasonable to say that the police can't even investigate the people who publicly expressed support for an attempt at causing a riot. That's cause enough to investigate and see just what they were plotting and what steps they actually took to move forward with the conspiracy.
So in the end, I merely believe that we shouldn't prevent the police from investigating people who conspired to commit violent crimes. It's funny how agitated you get at the idea of that.
I guess that means you never saw the congressional investigation into Planned Parenthood that vindicated them, or the fact that full, unedited videos were received and reviewed by all committee members?
Clearly debunked! Nothing to see here, Citizen! Move along now. You'll have to ask CNN's Chris Cuomo for permission to look at real news. The media is special, they have more rights than you do. He's an attorney, he should know!
Let us spit on this mix of sense with nonsense, but most especially the DMCA.
Your smugly sneering tone is most commendable, Boris. Those vernacular English classes are really paying off!
Do you suppose the Soviets publicized their abuses in Pravda?
It's a common bit of propaganda that HUAC blacklisted everybody in Hollywood and destroyed lots of careers... but that's not actually historically correct. Study-up on what really happened with the blacklists:
When the HUAC people were banging their drum, the people in Hollywood panicked that the public would become aware of how many self-identified commies would come to the attention of the ticket-buying public - and all the bosses in Hollywood decided to create their blacklists and not hire IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENTS OF THE HOLLYWOOD ELITES. There were, at that time, plenty of people in Hollywood who were well-known to be communists - some were dedicated to the cause and others turned to communism in response to the Depression. Everybody in Hollywood knew this and they also all knew the general public did not know and would not approve. Joe McCarthy never banned ANYBODY from acting in a film - he had no power to do that. Hollywood became a huge pile of dogs fighting eachother for box office dollars and all the "blacklisted" writers, musicians, actors, etc were thrown under the bus by their fellow Hollywood people (directors, writers, producers, studio bosses, etc) desperate to protect their own money. In fact, the system started to collapse thanks to one of the bravest men in the place: Kirk Douglas (of Spartacus fame). As soon as he insisted on using "blacklisted" people in his films (and those films made money), the whole scheme began to fall apart, just like the child pointing to the naked emperor.
Under Obamacare I was twice, for financial reasons, turned away from a hospital while in pain. The fake-progressive establishment told me to go die in the street like a dog. That's why smug Obamacare apologists disgust me.
1 year ago the commenter's line would have instead began with: "Department of Justice" and not "Trumps lawyers".
The submitter should chill out and submit the news without immediately casting judgement.
The silly brown shirts plan to fill our televisions with entertainment on 4th of November. The police are looking forward to overtime that weekend and so are eager for it to come . Trump's DOJ is trying to prevent live Ad free TV entertainment. To lecture these kids and talk them from ending up in jail.
Trump's got more heart and integrity than most people on TV these days. If you can achieve anything, vote out the war hawks next election.
There is a difference between resisting taxation because you don't like Obama and resisting the government trying to deport your family or take away the healthcare that is keeping you alive.
This kind of false equivalence argument is the new favourite of the far right. "Yes we are bad, but they are the same and you are a hypocrite for not acknowledging that".
While I'm not without compassion for the children of illegal immigrants, or even some illegal immigrants themselves (the ones that work), they still committed crimes, and putting our collective heads in the sand isn't going to make it go away. From what I hear, ICE is currently focusing on criminal illegals and ignoring the others for the most part.
The ACA is bankrupting the country and the people that can afford it, premiums have doubled since its beginning and they're only getting higher. People that used to be able to afford health insurance are being priced out of the market, and insurance companies are folding/abandoning markets because they're losing money. It was the government creation of a monopoly and it's already abusing its power.
So your insurance was still shit. How is that Obamacare's fault?
That video by the discredited "Veritas Project" has been debunked. It was misleadingly edited.
In any case, it's it reasonable to then go after everyone who read anything associated with this person?
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Before Obamacare, the same thing would have happened. Pain is relative. Most likely you were asking for opiates of some sort.
No hospital in America will turn away a patient in extreme medical need. A 'pain' is nothing and they WILL turn you away for that unless you have insurance to pay for your drug addiction.
That doesn't mean you won't get a huge fucking bill at the end.
So, did you die like a dog? Still whining like one I see...
"it has been debunked". Sure. Convenient you leave no source to said debunking. So thoroughly debunked, Robert Creamer had to resign after Project Veritas exposed him : http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/...
Even CNN had to report on it. "Debunked" means "It was factual, but I hate it" to some of you people.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
If you don't want to be deported, there's an easy way : Don't enter the country illegally and while if in said country illegally, don't commit a felony.
Otherwise, you absolutely should be deported, and resisting being deported after committing a crime should be ridiculed, not lauded and praised.
Or are you actually just resisting Law and Order ? Would you prefer to live in anarchy ? I don't think you'd like actual anarchy.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Where is the original, unedited video? If they have nothing to hide then there is no problem posting it for us to examine.
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That response made no sense... Smoke more crack. It seems to be working.
Didn't Social Justice Warriors tell us that "Just because speech is free does not mean that it should be free of consequences". Now this chick is bitching about potential consequences of her own speech. Cry me a river!
Then it must not have been that serious since you didn't go to an Emergency Room because the ER legally can't refuse to treat you regardless of how much it costs and then you just have to deal with the bill later. Obamacare has saved my life and countless others, thanks for your contributions to it.
See, that is the kind of lazy use of English that makes people not listen to you, Ami. ... your "resisting the government trying to deport your family" can also be written as "legally deporting people who are in the country illegally, many of whom have made no effort to become citizens"" (...)
Language have power.
When people wilfully left out the most important context in the discussion they usually are consciously (occasionally subconsciously) trying to misdirect and reduce the whole discussion to simple emotional-buttons that they can push on less-informed readers, because they already know their argument hold no substance and have no way of coming ahead by facts.
By the way, unless you count refugees (another discussion), America is pretty much the only country in the world where there are significant % of the population that pretend that deporting people that came in illegally is wrong. Tell us again - how on Earth can a country protect itself if anyone can come and pretty much bring anything along?
What if some of the contents discussed have contexts among people in the know that will oute their information source / mole and has a good likelihood of causing personal endangerment?
You don't seem to have a good grasp of the risks the sources and all parties involved has taken. Even benign information (like the model of a car) can lead to fatal repercussions when they are outing obviously violence-inciting groups.
Don't forget he pardoned a sheriff who was convicted of criminal contempt after continuing racial profiling.
Congress seems to have all the video:
âoeThe Committee has received all unedited video footage from the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) as required by our subpoena. A viewing room is set up in the Committee office where all Committee members and staffâ"majority and minorityâ"have equal access to view the footage. With nearly 800GB of data to review, it will take significant time to evaluate all of the footage. Out of an abundance of caution to ensure the safety and security of all individuals recorded, the footage will not be released to the public at this time.â
Nice try though.
Can't help but observe that instead of talking about what convinced you that the video was debunked, you are now asking for a source which you clearly do not have and of which you assume without any proof that will demonstrate the opposite of what the edited video shows.
And yet, you never do this when the edited content is in support of your beliefs, when you blindly build large assumptions on top of feeble foundations instead.
Have we forgotten about violent assaults like the woman whose hair was lit on fire [youtube.com]?
Took a look at that video. Clearly not something planned in any way by organizers of the protest. Also, it looks like the guy who put it out was also one of the protestors. So, basically, not sure what your point is with that one.
"Your source is one that always disagrees with me, therefore the message carried by the messenger MUST be invalid!" - Typical PopeRatz/AmiMojo level feminazi shitcunt retardation. GTFO.
Nixon was pretty paranoid about opposition and protesters too. Trump is learning from the best!
Where is the original, unedited video? If they have nothing to hide then there is no problem posting it for us to examine.
From reading your reply, I am now still unconvinced the Veritas stuff is debunked, as you have provided no debunking yet. Also, do you ask CNN for unedited material too ? Or do you just take their stuff at face value.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
"Involved" == paid progressive agitprop snot-lickers. Might break-that-out into DemoRat sluts, Rawlsian metahoes and Trotsky snibberbooz. Need more details or have I cleverly exhausted deplorables ? Kinda suxx being a /. thought-crimr eh pad're ?
I doubt liberals and antifa will ever work together. And liberals commiting terrorism is also not a very common occurence. I am not aware of a single time when that happened.
I don't know how this is in other countries, but here in The Netherlands, the liberal party is the most popular party among military personnel. Liberal parties are often more friendly to the military budget than left-of-centre parties.
because it's easier to be right when you control all the words.
funny you bring that up because that is EXACTLY what the left is doing with words like "racism" in todays climate. racism has a pretty simple definition, however today you wouldnt know it, because anything they dont like = racism today
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
His positions on Muslims,
muslim isnt a racie.
Mexicans,
context matters. has he called out all mexicans? no, he didnt. he even sent aid after the earthquakes
black football protestors,
did he call them out by race? or are YOU applying race to the equation? Pretty sure he never said a word about race
and refusal to denounce white power marches are all strong evidence that he's a racist.
he has denounced them 1000 times over so far, if you didnt hear that, blame your prefered media company for neglecting to give you the truth
in short, the man who was awarded the NAACP award and loved by the black community until 2015 is not in fact racist like you people keep claiming
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
exactly. taxes are theft, thats a legit reason to resit.
if you are here illegally, you have no legit reason to resit deportation because those are the rules, you broke them, and now you live with the consequences of your actions.
if i have something i shouldnt have on me (look at my name) and get stopped by the cops, i dont argue that it shouldnt matter because its wrong, i pay the fine, i knew it might happen and i made the decision on my own, therefore i live with the consequences if i get caught.
same goes with people here illegally
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
you have all your talking points down so ill simply tackle one.
it wasnt trump who started with the birther movement, it was hillary when she was trying to beat obama for the dem nomination in 08.
if the left didnt lie all the time, they wouldnt have anything to say ever
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
What have YOU fought for, shed blood for, sacrificed?
Since no one has "exposed" Antifa for terrorists, given that they have never initiated violence and have never murdered anyone, (Which your friends have done)
Seriously chump, you make yourself look the liar this way.
Project Veritas has been prosecuted in civil court and paid a$100,000 Judgement.
This ever happen to their victims?
Completely debunked
Yeah, project Veritas is so clean their "documentarians" were indicted for criminal forgery and are waiting civil trial for fraud and libel
His point is to lie, to make a false equivalence to save his nazi loving friends from real law enforcement.
Actually, no, nothing like that ever happened to me before Obamacare. And now that I live abroad, I have gold-plated health insurance for a fraction of the cost of my former worthless Obamacare coverage.
But thank you for your concern and compassion. Fake-progressives really do care about their fellow man.
Because before Obamacare, my coverage through Kaiser was way, way better and also somewhat cheaper.
But hey, cling to the patently false narrative you were fed by the capitalist news media. It's makes you look smart!
Oh yes, one of the medigreed professionals did give me the option of going $10,000 into debt - i.e. instant bankruptcy - just to get diagnosed. Glad I didn't do that.
Here in HCMC, a doc at the best most super expensive hospital in town was able to diagnose the issue for $158, including tests.
But hey, thanks for your concern and compassion. Fake-progressive running dogs really are the best people!
BTW... My issues were a bicycle crash and complications thereof. What's needed was an x-ray and physical therapy, not painkillers.
Otoh, for my pill-popping opiate-addled hypochondriac former colleague in San Francisco, Obamacare has been a dream come true.
But hey man, keep on lying to yourself and others.
Project Veritas, fraudulent election videos debunked.
Enjoy
Thanks. I forgot you can debunk 90% of this stuff just but googling "thing + snopes".
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AND, don't forget to cross check.
Factcheck.org
Politifact.org
NYtimes Ombudsman
Washington Post fact check