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Tesla Just Fired Hundreds Of Workers (mercurynews.com)
An anonymous reader quotes the Bay Area Newsgroup:
Tesla fired hundreds of workers this week, including engineers, managers and factory workers, even as the company struggles to expand its manufacturing and product line... The company said this week's dismissals were the result of a company-wide annual review, and insisted they were not layoffs. Some workers received promotions and bonuses, and the company expects to hire for the "vast majority" of new vacancies, a spokesman said. "As with any company, especially one of over 33,000 employees, performance reviews also occasionally result in employee departures," a spokesman said. "Tesla is continuing to grow and hire new employees around the world."
"Tesla has a hearing before the National Labor Relations Board in November for charges that company supervisors and security guards harassed workers distributing union literature," reports the Bay Area Newsgroup, adding that "Openly pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted."
Tesla denies this, and says that they've generally boosted morale this week -- by rewarding higher-performing employees.
"Tesla has a hearing before the National Labor Relations Board in November for charges that company supervisors and security guards harassed workers distributing union literature," reports the Bay Area Newsgroup, adding that "Openly pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted."
Tesla denies this, and says that they've generally boosted morale this week -- by rewarding higher-performing employees.
Are these firings the result of stack ranking? If so, why would anyone want to work there.
This would NEVER happen in a UNION shop.
Everyone would get raises.
Everyone would get promotions.
Only the less experienced people would get terminated due to budget constraints.
I want my car designed by the people with the most time in service, not the most education, knowledge, etc.
UNION NOW, UNION FOREVER. BUY UNION.
This is what the future will bring you if you don't vote PRO UNION.
Stop treating them like it.
... to help prevent potentially having to paying unemployment. Did you know that, at least in Florida, seven out of eight requests for unemployment are denied outright? This is because companies basically are able to set policies that mean unemployment is effectively inaccessible to most workers:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/bu...
Posting anonymously because of the massive amounts of mockery piled onto anyone that posts positively about unemployment, even though most folks end up using it to get through a tough spot in their lives. For some reason, we have a continuous cultural movement to shame it.
Nothing kills a business off better than a union. Keep em out.
When your as cool as them
Maybe many of the pro-union workers were the lowest performing. As a worker unions do nothing good except demand dues. It's like a mafia shakedown.
Smugly preaching to the rest of us about our lack of good SJW virtues while simultaneously busting unions and living like a capitalist robber baron. He and Harvey Weinstein are my liberal heroes.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Does your job description include "distributing union literature"?
In $current_century it should be possible to contact employees after work hours via e-mail, text messages, etc. And do so without risking intervention by supervisors or security. The whole face-to-face contact by organizers purportedly to "distribute literature" is at least psychological pressure to acquiesce and at times outright pressure from union thugs.
Have gnu, will travel.
Well, well, well... Tesla doesn't want to be unionized? Say it isn't so.
Of course I'd take this "they fired the Union organizers" with a grain of salt. I'm sure Tesla has CYA documentation for each and every one of these folks. And it kind of makes sense that the pro-Union folks would be lower in the productivity measures, not because they are pro-Union, but because it would be kind of hard to keep Union organizing and doing their work separated.
In general, Unions have outlived their primary reason to exist in this country. The big ones have become too powerful and self serving to care about the common worker anymore. Unions drove every major airline and car company in this country though bankruptcy by not seeing the long term implications of their demands and a load of loyal retired union folks lost the majority of their retirement income. I blame the unions for a lot of this.
Now that we have federal oversight on employment that governs things like hours, minimum wages, working conditions and safety, the union has less and less to negotiate with management over, yet they remain huge political and financial operations. Unions succeeded in their primary mission, and then proceeded to become the very thing they were designed to combat. I think they should go.
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From TFA it sounds like about 2 - 3% of the total workforce was fired. The firings were all ranks in the company including managers and engineers, not just the factory laborers.So it may have been nothing more than a pruning of the very lowest performers.
None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
Obviously....
All they had to do was take a trip out into their parking lot, find the employees responsible for some of the idiotic parking jobs collected on Instagram and other places on the internet, and fire them, because they are simply too stupid to hold a job that pays better than minimum wage.
Yes, that would help with morale, too.
Build all US facilities in right-to-work states. Seems to work for BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, and Hyundai.
Congratulations, you've been fired. You won't find work again, ever. You don't have the skills, because only employed people have the skills to be employable, and you're not employed anymore. Enjoy starving in the gutter as Tesla cars drive by and Elon Musk gets richer. You outlived your usefulness, and now you're going to die in poverty. Come on over to Slashdot and spend your final days whining about how you deserve basic income for existing.
It was true 100 years ago and it's true today, the only way for workers to get a fair deal is to organize as a group. Let's see how Elon Musk deals with this earth bound reality. Maybe he can get Mars declared a "right to work" state.
Franky, a lot of companies could benefit from this attitude. Now, I won't argue that there isn't the possibility that Tesla has taken on more than it can chew and has to cut spending. This is certainly the most likely reason and in that case, as a stock holder, you should be worried. However, another possibility is that they really are just cutting cruft. This is something modern large companies are afraid to do but they could sorely use. At the large behemoth companies I have worked at and seen so much waste it's not even funny and most of it is because a large percentage of their employees are just useless wastes of space. In those cases, cutting the waste is a good thing.
Now I agree there is the whole separate issue of whether workers should be burning their life away inching out the last penny of profit for their corporate overloads and these people might as well not exist because they give everything to profit someone else. That is a thing that should be addressed. Good luck in America.
"Franky, a lot of companies could benefit from this attitude. "
Who the fuck is "Franky"? He sounds like a fucking douche.
"At the large behemoth companies I have worked at and seen so much waste it's not even funny and most of it is because a large percentage of their employees are just useless wastes of space. "
Well guess what Franky? They thought the same OF YOU, you fucking monkey.
" for their corporate overloads"
There's an overload here, an overload of bullshit from you, Franky.
Last time I checked, firing people was 'laying them off'. Elon Musk is a con man, to be sure, though it's entirely possible he's so certifiably unstable that he believes in his delusions and is unaware of it. That anyone ever compared that fool to someone like Steve Jobs is a bad, bad joke.
You don't have much IQ, do you? Maybe a Trump or Clinton supporter? Thought so.
I work for a company that does this. It is done very covertly but if you've been around long enough you are bound to notice. You are given a choice of severance to leave or get your performance up and risk outright firing if you don't. This is dubbed "performance management" by the company execs and gets only minimal air play.
1. Why was it so abrupt? Usually, there's a process which is followed for non-performance to force someone out. Performance improvement program (PIP) comes to mind. The firings seem abrupt, but we'll probably not know if some procedure was followed or not.
2. Does Tesla use stack ranking? If so, you probably don't want to work there. Any company practicing stack ranking causes employees to compete against each other instead of focusing on the challenges in the business. Stack ranking may work for a few review cycles, but then the best employees have left and all you have is a bunch of back-stabbers left.
3. Did the affected people have everything they needed to perform their jobs, or were they sabotaged by their managers?
4. If they were indeed slackers, why were they hired in the first place?
But...but...but...that's communism!
So you could be right, but only if Musk is good.
I get paid well and I'm not in a union.... Unions are NOT the only way to be fairly paid...
Also, such "pay us what we define as fair or else" killed every major airline and car maker in the country in the end and dumped hard working people like my father (who was a union guy himself) onto the pension guarantee corporation and the fraction of the pension he was promised though the Union's efforts in the 25 years he worked there.
Personally, I think Unions of late do more harm than good in the long term... Certainly, watching my parents struggle to make ends meet on only portion of their Union retirement didn't make me like the unions who killed the airline they both worked for causing them to lose most of the benefits they earned including medical, flight privileges and a good portion of their income. The unions did that to them really, Management really had no choice but to play along and keep kicking the liability for Union benefits down the road if they wanted to stay in business now. The guys at the Union didn't care about tomorrow or the continued existence of the company, just about exacting their promises today. They ended up killing the goose that laid the golden eggs and EVERYBODY lost in the end.
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There's a shortage of STEM employees, the universities told me so! And the universities are just here to teach us to think, they would never try to extract a profit from naive kids.
Oh, wait.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/archit...
Oh yeah, it's a dead end.
It was true 100 years ago and it's true today, the only way for workers to get a fair deal is to organize as a group
A union that has been around 100 years has a good chance of having accumulated enough cruft that it's basically just another exploitive management structure feeding off of the workers productivity for little real benefit.
Unions should dissolve when they've achieved their goals and re-form when the are needed again.
No, communism would be what they have in China. When the people there tried to organize as a group, as I remember it, they ran them over with tanks.
First of all you, you seem to have missed the primary function of unions which is to make a fair share of the wealth generation go back to the workers, not merely the capitalists. Working conditions, health and safety, working hours and so on have always been secondary struggles where the workers demand some other form of compensation than wages. In that respect unions are failing horribly and apart from the minimum wage - that in real dollars is no higher than in the 1950s - the government is not going to fix.
It's no doubt that if you're a struggling business the unions can be a burden but if they were generally driving companies out of business the richest 15% wouldn't be making more and more money while everyone else loses. What you're seeing is a system where the money is extracted whenever the business is profitable, then makes everyone else take the burden when it's unprofitable. The US has managed to create something worse than social welfare, it's corporate welfare where you take from the tax payers and give to the corporations.
For example, why was your future retirement income to the company's future? Put that money into a pension fund when you do work, if the company goes tits up or you change jobs or lose your job it stops accumulating but it's yours. Or at least a potential share if you make it to retirement age. I mean they're back in business now aren't they? Making money again, which is extracted until the next crisis when the coffers again will be mysteriously empty. And they've done a great frame job when people like you blame the unions for that, nothing like 1%ers making the other 99% blame each other.
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"Openly pro-union workers were among those fired this week"
Assuming it was an average distribution of bad workers that were dismissed, I'd actually rhink it was a miracle if there were literally no pro-union employees amongst them.
Agreed, if management played fair you would never need unions. Unfortunately it seems that management almost never plays fair. That's the law of the jungle.
What anti-union company is not going to use general terminations to rid itself of organizers? I think Musk is a latter day Thomas Edison - that is not a compliment - but I don't think he's an idiot. Anyone in a non-union position can find out very quickly that companies have lots of ways to fire people.
You applying that same logic to corporations, Slick? Should IBM dissolve itself for your arbitrary ad hoc reasons? How about JP Morgan?
The problem is that what we need is for all workers to be represented by one group if we are going to get protection for all workers. As it is, the complacent unions that are entrenched now suck all the air out of the room.
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All this "fire the bottom 10%," started with GE's Jack Welch. Now, GE's stock is in the toilet. You can't attract good employees by giving a continual example of how you mistreat your employees.
A lot of his coworkers also started doing the minimum they could get away with because they now had a guaranteed 32-hour/week salary even if they only showed up to sit on the bench all day.
Sure they did - the whole "I'm the only one that works hard around here" syndrome.
If your father had time to keep tabs on how much or little the other guys were working, then he wasn't working very hard himself.
Whatever they have in China, it ain't communism. It hasn't really even pretended to be for a long time.
Randian Horseshit. Union workers are entirely dependent on the welfare of the company for their jobs and retirement. As opposed to executives who can drive the company into the ground and collect golden parachutes even in bankruptcy. Like when airline unions accepted massive pay and benefit cuts for US Airways to stay afloat, only for executives to get large severance packages when the company went under.
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Did the lightbulb flicker a bit before it went out? Your dad would have made far more money if he had been in a union from the start, without having to be a hardball negotiator on top of being a mechanic.
Well, it's you and your dad's choice to be good little Calvinists for corporate benefit, but the "unions promote mediocrity" line is and always has been bullshit. Nothing about unions prevents good workers from making more money or bad workers from being fired for cause. And union workers are far more invested in a company's success than corporate executives, who are happy to give themselves raises while driving the business into the ground.
Also bullshit. This "unions reward the lazy" storyline is built around the idea that the second your dad joined a union, he was happy to do his work plus that of all the people sitting around. Human beings are simply not built that way, unless your dad was George McFly to the young Biff Tannen's in the shop - in which case he'd be doing their work anyway without or without a union.
especially when things are running smoothly. Sure, Unions promote mediocrity, but they also promote safety, security and the humane treatment of workers.
For a concrete example, the iPhone was a break out hit. One of the main things Steve Jobs sited for making that hit possible was the ability to drag his (non-Union) Chinese workforce out of bed at 1 in the morning and work them 16 hours a day with nothing but tea and a biscuit. Sure, the iPhone wasn't mediocre, but we've all kind of swept the cost of that under the rug.
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the billionaire class attacks it because they want desperate workers who have to take the first job that comes along or starve. Billionaires own the media because we stopped enforcing anti-trust in the name of cutting red tape. Simple as that.
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Not sure if anyone's called this out, but it's pretty clear this is just union busting. Pretty common stuff Musk couldn't get away with if the working class would just stop fighting among themselves...
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believing that there isn't SOMETHING going on. I really have trouble believing that they had several hundred under-performing employees, and that they chose to get rid of them all at the same time.
If it were true, it would mean that management is incompetent and should get on the way out as well - because if you let hundreds of folks who aren't up to the task hang around till performance appraisal time, then you suck at management.
So, are they lying about why these folks got the ax? Or are they stupid and should have fired them all long ago?
A thousand pounds of wood moving at 300 feet per minute. Don't get in the way.
Agreed, if management played fair you would never need unions. Unfortunately it seems that management almost never plays fair. That's the law of the jungle.
Since less than 7% of private sector employees are in unions, that must mean management almost always plays fair in the US.
Ah, but the pension problem WAS a Union failure on two counts.
1. The Union's could have demanded the FULL funding of the pension NOW, not just higher and higher retirement benefits in the future. They failed their membership in this by being short sighted, pay me a "fair" wage now demands. What happened to my parents happened to thousands upon thousands in many industries which were unionized. I've NEVER seen a Union demand that the pension fund be fully funded to cover future liabilities, only that benefits and wages be increased NOW. They gave no thought about the sustainability of what they demanded and didn't look out for their retired member's interests.
2. ALL of the major airlines and automobile manufacturers in this country where Unionized way before I was born. ALL of them have gone through bankruptcy and all of them that I know of dumped their Union demanded pensions onto the federal government UNDER funded. I don't think this is a coincidence. I believe that Unions, which once had a valid purpose, lost sight of their primary goals and ended up strangling their own individual golden egg laying geese. Similar non-unionized companies fared better overall, as did their pensioners. This is plain to see if you look.
Finally, I'm not discounting the past good that unions have done. They served their purpose at the dawn of the industrialized age where labor was powerless as the individual and management didn't care because there was always another willing laborer to take the job. However, we no longer live in the same world, and the individual has rights by law that they didn't have before. Unions are not as necessary as they were before.
In summary... Unions lacked foresight, hurt their members by not working with management to seek sustainable benefits and wages and now we have largely replaced the function of Unions with codified laws about employment, safety and other things Unions used to protect. In my view, they are doing more damage than they do overall good for the workers they represent and therefore should go.
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In a team full of Michael Jordans, one of them will still be last.
Measuring "fair" by comparing paychecks? How's that relevant to a discussion about Unions?
So what about my Dad and Mom's pension checks? They worked in union shops for all their lives and got stuck with a fraction of what they were promised. Where is the Union in this? What responsibility does the Union have here?
1. They let the company skate without fully funding the pension plan.... Why? So they could get raises now for their dues paying members. Who cares about the pension plan? The Union should have, but they chose to ignore the issue and let the company kick the can down the road. Yea, that's looking out for labor...
2. Where was the Union when the company was obviously on an unsustainable path to bankruptcy? Where they trying to negotiate with the company to keep it afloat? Heck no, they were insisting on maintaining the shop rules, preventing layoffs and protecting today's wages. Why wasn't the Union looking at the company's condition YEARS in advance and demanding the right things get done to keep it afloat and keep their membership working? Because that would mean giving up something. So they let the goose die and cut the retirees adrift to their own devices. How fair was that?
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It ain't freedom either.
Much more effective headline than "Tesla just fired between one and two percent of it's workers". Is this really news for nerds or just sensationalism?
The only way for anyone to get a better deal is to organize as a group.
We've known this truth for thousands of years too...
Or, maybe, free travel to Mars is another human right?
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> ...the only way for workers to get a fair deal is to organize as a group.
Firing the bottom 2->3% of your workforce -across the board, not just factory workers- and giving promotions and bonuses to high performers is usually a sign of a fair deal. RTFA for once:
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11233849&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=55368159
Yes, the United States is known all over the world for it's fair play. What was I thinking??
If you hate unions so much don't work for a company that has unions. Free market etc.
You make it sound like I kicked your parent's door in and took their pension checks. My only point is that without a union you have zero protection. Not that with a union you have 100% protection from all eventualities.
Back on the 8th, there was an earler Slashdot story: GM Exec Says Elon Musk's Self-Driving Car Claims Are 'Full of Crap'
In which I asked: "Speaking of credit, how is their accounts payble, and do they pay their bills?"
I'm guessing they simply couldn't make payroll, and this also solved the problem.
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You USED to have zero protection, but now we've codified into law a lot of the protections that Unions used to provide.
These days, working conditions are controlled by law, work hours are limited by law, payment of overtime is governed by law as are benefits being required for full time workers. Unions don't provide this, the law does.
Sure, Unions have work rules, minimum staffing rules, who must be called in first rules and (in closed shops) who can and cannot do certain jobs, but I'm not sure how this is a good thing for labor. Unions may negotiate benefits and wages as a group, but I don't know if that it is always necessary for a Union to do that. I get paid fairly and have good benefits but I'm not in a Union or work in a place where Unions are.
So, I don't agree that you have zero protections or that Unions are necessary to represent labor's interests. For me, the good doesn't outweigh the bad in Unons.
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What was I thinking??
Whatever it was, it seems to not be based on facts.
The law is supposed to prevent people coming from other countries and working here illegally, yet millions are doing it. And yes there are rules in place. So let's say John gets a job where there's unsafe conditions. John reports said problem to boss who does nothing. Then John reports it to the authorities. Then John gets fired for not being a team player. That's how it works. We can both probably agree that for good or ill, the Unions are on their way out and have been for over 30 years.
Facts? What is this the American Journal of Science? No, I based my thinking that most management types are born liars on years of experience. The fact that only 7% of private industry jobs are unionized means nothing more than the rich have been sticking it to the poor since Ronald Reagan. And now we have more of the same. Oh, and your link didn't work, it's 404.
That's why they call it the Red Planet, comrade.
The law is supposed to prevent people coming from other countries and working here illegally, yet millions are doing it. And yes there are rules in place. So let's say John gets a job where there's unsafe conditions. John reports said problem to boss who does nothing. Then John reports it to the authorities. Then John gets fired for not being a team player. That's how it works.
In your example, if John reports the problem to authorities and gets fired for doing so, he should contact OSHA. Retaliation against whistleblowers is not allowed and there is a literal army of OSHA bureaucrats just itching to drop the boom on employers in cases like this. So John's employer *should* get a OSHA visit about this and a comprehensive safety inspection, at their earliest inconvenience. If John is right about conditions and why he got fired, you can bet OSHA will rip his former employer a new one. What's a Union going to do? Process a grievance? Nope, likely just turn the company over to OSHA anyway.
Unions don't stop illegal activity or employment by the way. Undocumented, illegals work all the time and there isn't much Unions can do about it but report it when they see it. But I don't see Unions out doing this myself.
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Tesla fires hundreds of misogynists" is a hilarious headline.
And this is one way to go about it. Unions are an extortion racket. Everyone know it. Especially the union thugs who actively seek that kind of power. So I wouldn't cry much if a bunch of core union people were dismissed.
Money comes into the company. It has to be distributed somehow. The guys at the top do the distributing. They are few and typically good negotiators so they get the lions share. The farther down the food chain you go, the more people there are and can be negotiated with individually and they typically have quite limited information, much less than management. Unions just put professionals in charge of negotiating for the worker's cut of the profit. There are costs and benefits. Would it be possible to organize unions so that they are efficient in allocating productive capacity? Perhaps.
Yes, their pension funds were distributed to shareholders, and then the companies went through bankruptcies to get rid of the debt. It's not rocket science or prima facia impossible. It's all about the ability to not fully offset long term liabilities.
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When most of them workers are replaced by machines, you can be represented by whomever you want, you will still be out of a job and in the gutter. UBI won't happen, ever: the vast majority of first-world nations aren't even equipped to handle retirement properly. It's all going to hell and you know it.
Being powerful is orthogonal to serving the membership as opposed to the leadership. A union that is effectively in control of the membership - as opposed to some easily-corruptible leadership - can be extremely powerful.
So are you betting on the killbots, or just mass chaos?
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Yes, their pension funds were distributed to shareholders, and then the companies went through bankruptcies to get rid of the debt. It's not rocket science or prima facia impossible. It's all about the ability to not fully offset long term liabilities.
Really, so? Where were the Unions when this was going on? Why were they not *demanding* that the pension funds be kept in sync with the liabilities being incurred?
My complaint about the Unions in this is they chose to ignore the problem right along with management. Unions kept asking for more benefits, but kept accepting that the company could fund the pension funds later, somehow. In fact, this raiding of the pension fund was a regular occurrence right up to the point in the late 80's when it became illegal to put money into them, then later take it out for cash. Treat it like a bank account. Of course the Unions just sat there and watched while the pension funding source was strangled, even participated in the death of their golden goose while their members lost their pensions, benefits, and eventually their jobs. The Union bosses should have seen what was coming and if they cared a bit about their members, at least tried to head off the inevitable, but that's not how Unions work... Nobody is there looking at the long term.
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person with inside info. the work culture was horrible, lots of goofing off, marijuana use on the premises. if the firings reflect a realization of that by management, this is likely an entirely good thing. maybe they are now addressing work culture, esp. male work culture there. maybe elon can grow up.
In the past, I never asked a prospective employer if they did stack ranking (aka forced distribution aka totem pole). Maybe I will, next time around.
This is probably a good thing for workplace rating sites to routinely report, but so fare I haven't seen it
There was a "Dilbert" cartoon about interviewing someone to discover if they would be a bad employee, but a good candidate for the bottom of the heap ranking.
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Is this the first year they've had mass firings after reviews?
If so, this might provide an opportunity for a clever and/or optimistic lawyer to file a class-action suit that contended this was just a layoff in disguise.
The suit might have a better chance if the annual reviews happened at various times throughout the year, sometimes more than once in a year.
Did I mention that the lawyer would have to be optimistic?
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Wow, that is incredibly delusional.
If you buy that hook, line, and sinker.. fuck, do not promote this as acceptable.
Cronyism, Nepotism, Tribalism. All these "isms" come into play. Here in Chicago many well paying jobs that don't require a higher education degree, are allocated to those who are a certain ethnic background (Irish) or live in a certain region (southwest suburbs, northwest side), belong to a certain religion (Catholic, Evangelical), love certain sports (baseball, football, golf), or have a certain sexual preference (gay). Most city and state workers along with the trade workers (plumbers, electricians, painters, etc.) are hired on the basis of what "ism" they embrace or told to embrace by their tribe.
Oh, I forgot. One politician here in Chicago, would say: "Don't send nobody (for a job), that nobody sent."
So Tesla is NOT filing IPO
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"Openly pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted. . . "
Were they targeted or did their "Union attitude" also result in poor performance?
Never been part of a union, but have worked with a few union workers before. My limited anecdotal personal experience is that union workers are slow. Have an attitude where you should never sweat on work time and never poop on your own time. They do about 1/4th the work as non-union laborers.
I believe unions were critical to move the US forward during the early to mid 1900s. However, are unions still solving major problems? Or have the problems unions were needed for been mostly solved and now are unions mostly just creating new problems?
Show me a union that inspires workers to excel instead of inspiring them to slack off and hide behind the union to avoid being fired for poor performance and then I might consider unions useful again.
Companies usually have a strategy of hiring more people than needed. This ensures that there is local competition between two and more workers doing the same sort of job. This pressurizes employees to find ways to work harder to keep their jobs.
Even if you have been the top performer in a company for many years, they will try to find the next cheapest replacement who can do your job. So you'd usually have upgraded yourself to working 5x-10x what you were set out to do earlier at the same pay (adjusted for inflation, maybe) until you burn out and leave;
So, for those of you who think you can't get fired - you're wrong. You're as dispensable as that roll of toilet paper. It only depends on how much shit you are willing to take till you run out.