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Windows 10's Edge vs Chrome: We're Faster and Win in Battery Face-off, Says Microsoft (zdnet.com)
Microsoft has kicked off 2018 with two new ads promoting Windows 10 Edge's battery efficiency and speed compared with Google Chrome. From a report: Microsoft published the two new ads on New Year's Eve, pitting Edge against Chrome, the world's most popular browser. "Microsoft Edge is up to 48 percent faster than Google Chrome," Microsoft says in one of the 30-second ads. Not only that, but Microsoft argues that Edge is safer too, thanks to SmartScreen, its built-in equivalent of Google's Safe Browsing anti-phishing technology. Microsoft says: "Edge blocks 18 percent more phishing sites than Google Chrome." Microsoft doesn't cite the source of this statistic, but in October, NSS Labs released a report comparing Edge on the locked-down Windows 10 S with Chrome on Chromebooks, suggesting that Edge blocks more phishing URLs than Chrome.
Edge could cure cancer and I still wouldn't go anywhere near it, MS's IE blunder took care of that in perpetuity.
Edge is still such a piece of crap, the UI so amateurish, that I'd gladly sacrifice a bit of battery life to use Chrome. So far as I'm concerned, Microsoft has lost the browser wars.
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vs Chrome and Edge? Firefox doesn't try to annoy you or nudge you into using any one product, it's fast, configurable, and doesn't ask you to "stink" with their "clown."
Also: Opera.
Edge is OK. Where I think it lacks, in the same way that the latest Firefox lacks, is in its integration support, mobile features, and plugins.
I use Google services a lot, and the fact that Chrome has native sign-in to Google, makes the integration really clean. Also the plugins on Chrome tend to be a lot more mature and stable than those for the "lesser" browsers. That's less of an issue with FF, but it's still present.
Edge IS quite fast, and does a good job with proper page rendering.
I think the problem is that Chrome is just a great browser. It doesn't matter if Edge is "just as great," or even "a little greater in this one area." A ton of people are embedded with Chrome now, and unless there's a REAL incentive to change, why would they?
... the quest for speed caused Firefox to dump much of the useful functionality of the browser. Is browser speed really the issue it is made out to be, or is the quest for speed being done just because browser speed is so easy to measure and compare?
I'm posting this using Edge for Android.
https://play.google.com/store/...
Over a million downloads so far. Haven't tried it though. Not sure if it's any good. (they have an iOS version as well, but we all know that's just a skin over the built in iOS browser...)
How well does it block ads, etc?
Last I checked, Microsoft's battery claim is for sitting there watching a video, without the browser actually doing anything at all.
Edge is still a browser made by MS. Edge, the best browser for downloading other browser in Win 10
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
I added a second HDD to my work laptop and decided it was time to reinstall Windows yesterday.
Edge is nearly all together broken. Nearly every page I load gives me a disconnected / time out type error. I could bring up the Brave website this morning, but I couldn't actually download brave using Edge.
That's right - I started Internet Explorer to download another browser because Edge wasn't up to the task.
It took me nearly an hour to log in, download, and install Office 365 yesterday using Edge as my on-ramp.
I don't know what the hell is going on with Edge, but the rest of the system is working fine. Once I got Brave installed I was able to cruise the web just fine. For the purposes of this post I started up Edge on my Windows laptop to see if it's working. I was able to load Slashdot, it took a lot longer than Brave does.
The only thing out of the ordinary about this laptop is I syspreped it, I left the factory SSD as most everything and I put \users on a 2 TB hybrid drive. Literally Edge is the only problem I've had since doing the install yesterday.
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IE and now Edge have one annoying UI quirk - immediately after you start it, you can click into the address bar, then it almost always takes away focus for some damned reason (actually, Windows does this all over the place - it's the primary reason I can't use that OS).
If they'd fixed this one problem, I'd probably use it more. I suspect they don't use their own software at Microsoft. They'd surely have noticed and fixed it by now if they did...
http://www.unfocus.com/
When Chrome is running, Windows continues to run background processes like system updates.
When Edge is running instead, I noticed the CPU and network usage of those background processes to drop to near 0.
This is the exact same type of b.s. that got them sued by the DOJ 23 years ago.
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I'd try it, but Google Play Store won't let me. It lists Microsoft Edge as incompatible with my Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8" (SM-T350) running Android 7 "Nougat".
Personally I wouldn't use either because I don't really appreciate behemoths hoovering up all my web activity.
Edge, the best browser for downloading other browser in Win 10
For now. In the long term, that depends on how long Microsoft continues to offer Windows 10 Home to OEMs. If Microsoft were to replace Windows 10 Home with Windows 10 S, that would put other browsers behind a $50 paywall to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro.
It's gotta be tough being in the marketing department at Microsoft because you have to invent all these bizarre scenarios where an inferior product actually performs marginally better. Obviously, Edge is slower at loading websites and uses more electricity in the process so they resorted to the least realistic usage scenario: playing a video from disk for 15 hours.
The truth of the matter is that they are all using hardware based video decoding which means all three browsers should have nearly equal run-time. I'm guessing the difference is how the file is or isn't cached which they exaggerated as much as possible.
Microsoft's motto should be: if you can't compete then just cheat!
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it's not lying, it's just a customized benchmark. technically correct is the best kind of correct. ;-)
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"Up to" is a useless marketing term when only a single benchmark is given. Edge could be slower than Chrome at everything except one test, and you could still truthfully state that it was "up to 48%" faster than Chrome.
For a one-line statement like that to be meaningful, it has to refer to average speed, or "at least".
Indeed. And a big middle finger to MS - if anybody deserves it, they deserve it more.
You know what people NEED in a browser? Compatibility with every web site they visit and flexibility to install extensions or plug-ins that make it a more useful tool for them!
Speed is always a good thing, but it's got to be viewed as relative to the capability of the product. Right now, with Edge not supporting extensions or plug-ins, it's not even if the same league as the browsers it compares speeds with.
I don't know anyone using Windows 10 who doesn't view Edge as the lightweight default browser you ignore except for the times Windows wants to open it to render something that was generated by clicking on an option in Windows itself.
Faster? With 99 billion ad-flash-whatnot bullshit loading before the content I came for gets loaded? Are you trying to be funny?
Which browser loads less bullshit is the question I'd care about. Which browser discards tracking cookies by default and protects my privacy better is the question I care about. But I have the suspicion NEITHER of those two will do EITHER of those things.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Performance as a metric doesn't tell me squat on its own, as it's pretty damn easy to have better performance by ignoring standards compliance, and Microsoft doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to fully complying to web standards.
I'm sure that elinks renders even faster than Edge, but that fact on its own isn't all that helpful if you expect ECMAScript and full CSS support.
Yaz
I'm inclined to believe that Edge's advantage comes from its ability to utilize [GPU] hardware acceleration better and not from cheating on Microsoft's part.
OMG teh M$!! Edge is bad!! I've never used it but it's bad because M$!!!!!
Today what we need is a way to simply and cleanly stop all the auto play videos and all the auto play sounds. Google has no interest in developing the feature. NoScript, AdBlock, FlashBlock all have issues on chrome. Even when you set all the possible settings for autoplay video, it still happens.
If MS wants to get its market share back, it should implement a cleanly pause all autoplay audio/video. People will come back for that feature.
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I had my first experience setting up Windows 10 the other day for a friend, I had been avoiding it all this time. Anyway the experience was horrible, first of all during the install Cortana starts talking to me, WTF? I don't like talking to AI's especially during setup when I didn't even turn Cortana on, so turn it off as soon as I can but it still seemed to be "listening" and picked up dialog from the TV going in the background and started selecting the wrong language setting because of the TV, what's up with that? Also during the install it has a whole page full of privacy settings, asking me if it's OK to spy on me basically, I untick everything off course. Next thing is I go to download Chrome using Edge. I think I got told about 2 or 3 times that I shouldn't be using Chrome because Edge is "better", that experience left a sour taste in my mouth. Also I mostly dislike Edge because I am a web developer and know just how bad IE was at web standards over the last decade, so no thanks, I am not using Edge. Anyway, first of all the Bing search results say something along the lines that Edge is better on Windows 10 than Chrome and that I should continue using it, I ignore it and install it anyway. Then I start Chrome and it recommends me to go to settings so I can change the default browser. I went to settings, it sat on 100% CPU for about 30 minutes, after FINALLY getting in there and changing the default browser it STILL tells me I shouldn't be changing the default browser because "Edge is better". I was quite annoyed at the whole process and constantly getting told by Microsoft not to install Chrome.
If speed was the most important factor for choosing software, I would be running Linux instead of Windows 10.
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The Android Edge browser is just a wrapper around Chromium with Microsoft account integration (for bookmarks/history/etc. sharing with Edge Desktop). AFAIK Firefox is the only full-featured Android browser that ships its own rendering engine.
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This is the exact same type of b.s. that got them sued by the DOJ 23 years ago.
It is? The real world impact of this throttling of background processes, and these marketing claims by MS, are likely to approach zero. No special treatment is going to make Edge the more desirable browser. Besides, Google is not the best comparison to make for non-monopolistic behavior.
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This is the exact same type of b.s. that got them sued by the DOJ 23 years ago.
But since Microsoft dodged any meaningful penalties for that bad behavior, they have no reason to stop doing it.
... just fuck off already, Microsoft.
I tried to use Edge to install software for the new Vive I got for Christmas. Edge wouldn't allow me to install anything. I couldn't even install DDU in order to install the Nvidia GTX 1060 I got to drive the Vive.
Since it won't do anything, I guess that you could say that it is safe.
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Battery claims don't matter when your browser royally sucks like Edge does. I will take a 50% loss of battery time if it means I can use a browser that can right-click and "save image" or "view image" or "copy image location." Edge can't even be used to save a copy of the current page. What a total piece of crap. Useless for any kind of real work.
BUT IT MAKES YER BATTERY LAST LONGER WHILE YOU GET NOTHING DONE, HURR DURR HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Brave is another Chrome reskin like Opera and Vivaldi.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
You forget 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11.
Also, they are a multi-billion dollar company. I should not have to give them a chance for there new software. They should finish making things before they release them.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Title corrected to more accurately reflect the reality.
And in this case, I think "faster" means we go all the way on the first date.
In a contest to see which browser is the fastest to track every single thing you do on-line, plus pull down your computer's pants and rape it for every bit of private information it can gather about you, your friends, your family and your business associates, and report all of the above to its master, the winner is...
May I have the envelope, please...
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I've never seen anything like this before. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a tie!
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
I don't care.
Not what you claim, nor whether or not it is true.
You ruined your reputation through decades of being evil. It won't recover anytime soon, no matter what. Especially not as long as you don't admit to the massive damage you have done to computing. We would be 10 years into the future without you, so for at least that time, suck it up and stop crying.
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So the laptop in question is nearly four years old and has had the same SSD the whole time.
The SSD died last week, probably because the install flipped bits that hadn't been flipped in a long time.
I reinstalled the OS from scratch AGAIN on a new SSD of the same size.
Edge is working fine, I was able to download and install Brave without issue - all other hardware is the same and I used the same methodology and even the same install media to rebuild.
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