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Jack White Bans Cellphones At Concerts For '100% Human Experience' (nme.com)
Singer and guitarist Jack White has banned the use of mobile phones at upcoming live shows. NME reports that the policy will be strictly enforced, requiring concert-goers to lock up their smartphones in pouches." From the report: White embarks on a tour of the U.S. from April, with a statement announcing that shows would be "phone-free," confirming: "No photos, video or audio recording devices allowed." "We think you'll enjoy looking up from your gadgets for a little while and experience music and our shared love of it IN PERSON," the statement adds. "Upon arrival at the venue, all phones and other photo or video-capturing gizmos will be secured in a Yondr pouch that will be unlocked at the end of the show. You keep your pouch-secured phone on you during the show and, if needed, can unlock your phone at any time in a designated Yondr Phone Zone located in the lobby or concourse." "For those looking to do some social media postings, let us help you with that. Our official tour photographer will be posting photos and videos after the show... Repost our photos & videos as much as you want and enjoy a phone-free, 100% human experience."
or is this from some record label person?
n/t
In a world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king--and the two-eyed man is a heretic.
In before all the posts crying "what if there's a disaster and the Yondr system goes down and all the lights go out and I need to call home and I can't be without my phone because reasons and disaster and my rights and oh noes and I need an Uber car and my kids must be able to reach me and did I mention active shooter and what do I do if there's a disaster?"
Beware of the Leopard.
Hope this becomes the rule.
Lots of artists are doing this now. A Perfect Circle/Tool refuses to perform with phones, pretty much lighting of any kind, or vapes. Their roadies will call the security teams if they see smoke. It is obviously for Maynard, but also for the rest of the audience that is smart enough to not be a complete douche hole for others in the audience.
While viewing the featured article in Firefox ESR 52, after I scrolled to a certain point, an autoplaying video of a singer-guitarist popped up in the lower right hand corner of the viewport. Audio played for about half a second. I clicked the X button to make the video go away, but then a few seconds later, the audio resumed playing in a video above the scroll position.
Is why I don't bother with live venues anymore.
Between the assholes in the audience and the assholes on stage...
Not sure what happened to "just come in, be a decent person and enjoy the scene".
So fuck them all. NONE of them get a cent of my money.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Who is this guy anyway?
Is he like one of those grandpas that tour?
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>"Singer and guitarist Jack White has banned the use of mobile phones at upcoming live shows. NME reports that the policy will be strictly enforced, requiring concert-goers to lock up their smartphones in pouches." "
I have no interest in interacting with my cell phone during a concert (or movie or any other type of paid entertainment). But tell me I have to lock up my phone in a "pouch" and you can shove your concert where the sun doesn't shine. I am so tired of the lowest-common-denominator ruining everything for everyone. Either they ruin it directly by being rude, annoying, and/or irresponsible, or ruin it indirectly due to places creating draconian rules/procedures to try and combat it.
Such a concert doesn't exist. Guess your next concert will be watching your grumpy face in the mirror with "All By Myself" cranked to 11.
The last couple of concerts I went too practically forced you to use your phone to present the "ticket" to enter. They strongly discouraged accessing the place with paper tickets last year.
How's this going to work?
That's great, but your actions are impacting what enjoyment those around you can also get. Yeah, you all likely paid the same price for GA ticket, and while there's a part of me that subscribes to the "hey man, unless you want to pay my ante, don't get bitchy about when I hit or fold", there is also common decency. I'm not a big guy, but I'll still look behind me when I'm on the floor to make sure there isn't someone shorter than me behind me struggling desperately to see the stage.
Just because you happen to be 8'3", 400lbs, and are wearing a goddamn cowboy hat to top it off, and "this is your favorite bend ever", doesn't mean you're not a cock for getting in front.
Hmm:
"Yondr uses a patented system to create phone-free spaces for artists, educators, organizations and individuals."
THEY GOT A PATENT? FOR PUTTING PHONES IN A BAG SEALED WITH CLOTHING SECURITY TAGS?
Wait... so there's Jack Black, singer and guitarist... and there's Jack White, singer and guitarist, as well? Surreal.
Looks like they want less angles being recorded at the next concert to make the news.
His policy is in the 'Monster Jam' at Angels Stadium, too. They are not allowing zoom photography. That means that they might as well ban SLR. Try thinking that you are going to blow the entire stage and crowd over an idiot waving a cell phone.
You're exactly the kind of asshole that has made other assholes create rules and procedures like this.
If you hadn't been such an asshole then maybe the rest of us could have enjoyed our concerts without all this BS about shoving phones in puches?
No idea who Jack White is, so are we talking "He physically forced me to participate in sexual acts against my express wishes"-rape, or "He stared at my cleavage from across the room in 1987 #metoo"-rape?
If you use your phone to monitor your blood glucose, but the venue forces your phone to be locked into a Yondr bag, are there ADA repercussions? Seems that the answer would be "yes".
For example, an ADA-related consent order: https://www.ada.gov/sfxinc.htm6/, and this line specifically: "Clear Channel Entertainment agrees not to discriminate against any guest with diabetes with regard to their bringing diabetes related medical equipment or diabetes related food into a concert venue.â
I sent a brief, polite message to Yondr 1.5 years ago asking if there is a protocol for this situation. https://www.overyondr.com/contact/
No response.
Obviously, there are back-up strategies like bringing the stand-alone G5 receiver, use a meter, exit the concert to check your Bg, or not to go to the concert at all, but all should be unnecessary as having a phone at your side for monitoring blood glucose is a reasonable accommodation.
that if there's a disaster and the Yondr system goes down and all the lights go out and I need to call home and I can't be without my phone because reasons and disaster and my rights and oh noes and I need an Uber car and my kids must be able to reach me and did I mention active shooter and what do I do if there's a disaster
Or will a magnet be enough to open the pouches without damage?
Ok
Black man with a knife rape, or frat party regret rape?
If the no phone policy was made clear prior to ticket purchase then so be it, the market can decide if people want to to take the deal with the given restrictions. On the other hand if the policy was not clear, they had better have a real refund policy. I say this because it is notoriously hard to get refunds on concert tickets and it seems pretty underhanded to change the terms of the deal after it is made. (Cue an evil voice talking about making the deal even worse...)
Is he also banning all electronic instruments, amplifiers and loudspeakers? It's not a very human experience otherwise.
"Let's watch my recording of the concert I went to!"
-Nobody ever
If you are complaining about a locked pouch then don't go. I went to concerts before cell phones and they were awesome, I didn't need a phone to remember it. I have no idea why people are pissed about this since my phone is not part of my body. Don't go if you don't like it. Go if you want to. Its not like they are stealing your phone. You have it next to you. No one is taking away your freedoms so settle down and put it into perspective.
Prince and others did it years ago: https://petapixel.com/2013/08/...
I understand all the annoyance with phones but I typically go with several friends or family and use the phone to re-connect and get together at the end. It is a huge pain in the ass to wait at the car for hours when you can just text or call each other and find out someone was lucky to go back stage or they got hurt or they were locked up for some reason. No a phone is a lot more than just videoing a concert or holding up as a lighter. For me deal killer.
Stop "living" life through a fucking screen.
Jack White and Jack Black should get together and form a band called Jack Grey.
I see both sides of it.
In real life I have to carry 2 phones, 1 personal and 1 work, since I'm on 24/7 oncall. True, I rarely get that afterhours call but my job calls for me to carry it (even though it sucks). And I have the personal in case I get that emergency call from the babysitters while out relaxing. Other than that, I don't record at shows, I don't watch videos on my cells, and I don't text "Whee! Chk it out, look where I'm at you losers!"
On the other hand, I work security at music festivals and I see all these dumbasses (yes, DUMBASSES!) with a drink in 1 hand and a phone in the other recording the show instead of just enjoying it. Seriously, when was the last time you watched that crappy video you recorded of The XX while at the music fest?
I'm good with numbers -
Locking your phone up for an hour is "draconian"? You may want to get some help for that. That sounds like addiction.
I don't respond to AC's.
People don't go to concerts for the music. They go so that they can post on social media and show other people how trendy they are.
Good! I don't want idiots like you there. You think your phone's backlight is something only you can see, or something?
Me Me Me Me Me MEEEE!
This post heartens me. I hope all the other people welded to their phones join you in this movement.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
Nothing but ugly women and limpwristed homos at Jack Black show. Total fraud.
Talk about wanting to own your own brand, this is about only approved photos of him being released on the net and he owning the rights to them all. He's been restricting use of recording equipment at his gigs for years. So much for bootlegs being the backbone of rock'n'roll.
They are not taking phones. They are taking 'smart-phones'. I have a £5 flip phone i used for camping holidays that can't record either audio, video or images. If you are that desperate to keep a mobile phone with you at all times, spend the few quid(literally) to have a device that can only make calls and it won't be taken away either. I understand people feeling cut off and not being able to communicate, but we're way beyond that. People seem to think they REQUIRE what is almost a desktop PC computing experience in their pocket.
...give a shit.
If you can't record a few videos to upload to Facebook, were you really there though? Oh, and please ban huge flags at festivals too, ta.
{...} in favor of making fun of an artist who they'd like to belittle by insinuating that nobody ever heard of them or in particular you're too good to have ever heard of them is being childish.
Or you know, maybe some of us have genuinely no idea who this artist is.
There are literally tons of different types of music out there (I mean litterally. If you pile up ever different disc, CD, tape, wax cylinider, scroll, and other forms of music produced by all the artists, it's going to be a really heavy total mass).
By chance, I might happen not to be into this specific music, and I might have actually never heard anything about the artist. Not that I pretend that the artist is bad or that I'm above this kind of art. He might simply be not one of the thousand other that's I've heard.
So we do what every sensible /.er would do (like the parent poster) :
We will bitch and moan at the editors, because giving a few key information about an artist mentioned in a summary would be a good idea~
In the present case, I actually did not register the name for real, and needed to fall back onto wikipedia to discover that he's actually the guy who founded The White Stripes (known for such titles as "Fell in Love with a Girl", "Seven Nation Army", etc.).
I did my duty to get informed, but I think that when the subject of a summary strays outside the typical tech field, I would be good to give some key informations (again, not every one might be into the same kind of music and some could genuinely completely ignore who the guy is).
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I HATE when someone, anyone, pompously imposes a sense of "experience" on anyone else - since, to some extent, what constitutes one experiencing it is relative to one's point of view... not to mention a very slight annoyance at an observation I make where those who chime in with this experince-superioity-complex as I call it often miss you don't need to literally have your face in your phone to not suck at recording
If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
Good, it seems if you want to go to a concert these days you're forced to watch it through the screen of the phone belonging to whoever is standing in front of you. It's sad that so many people seem to want to spend most of their time at a concert showing off to their friends that they are there, rather than enjoying the experience. I sometimes wonder if they then watch the concert on their phone to see what it was actually like. It's certainly a policy I support.
Otherwise, how will we ask for an encore?
I went to a HIM show with my wife a few months back, and she wanted to stand further back so as to avoid the pushing/prodding that happens closer to the front. The sea of screens in front of me was seriously fucking annoying. I don't get why people feel the need to record songs and shit on their phone... the quality when you see them is generally shit, so why bother?
What if somebody at the concert, or a family member (kids at home with babysitter for example) had an emergency and you werenâ(TM)t able to access your phone?
If you've never heard of him does he really exist?
they should ban cell phones everywhere...people slowly start looking like brainless zombies
I grew up going to concerts before the days of smart phones. Even cameras were bulky and rarely seen or allowed.
The only thing generating light sources in the crowd were LIGHTERS. It was awesome and you had no distractions from the show.
Now you go to a concert and some asshole has 7" phablet up in the air on MAX BRIGHTNESS (because he is a moron that doesn't give a shit about everyone behind him) and all you see are these damned smart devices. Totally ruins the concert.
BAN THEM. 100% No exceptions. Instead, give concert goers a photopass voucher when they enter the concert that gives them exclusive access to a professionally made video and picture of themselves (if they were captured by a photog). Let them watch the video for free, buy a non DRM'd version for $5.
No worries. I have a phone on my wrist, a phone on my pocket, and a backup phone in my wife's purse. Good luck with putting the throw away phone in a bag.
I've been thinking about my butthole
When you gonna ream it?
When you gonna ream it?
If I'm paying to see a performance, I'll decide how I spend my time during that performance. I'll take pictures if I want to or won't if I don't want to. That's not for anyone else to decide. You can keep your show and I'll go to a show where I'm free to make my own decisions.
Ah.. So you are staying home then? OK..
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
I don't necessarily agree that you should be forced to seal them up to attend, but on the other hand I can't stand when I'm watching a concern and all I can see is tens of thousands of cell phones recording video and taking pictures. I mean just enjoy the concert. You probably paid $100+ to attend. If you want video, buy a video later for $20 that will be way better than anything you'll take on your crappy cell phone.
I swear, I could dress in a killer clown suit, with a fake bloody axe, walk through a typical high school or college campus during class change, and 90% of people later polled, will say "WHAT CLOWN?". Kids today, in 20 years will be in need of neck surgeries...due to their heads always looking down at their phones.
I'm a Jack White fan, not just of his music but of the work he does for the music industry (producing, nurturing talent, etc...). I also love it when the soccer crowds in Europe start chanting the opening riff of 7 Nations Army.
That being said, I hate it when people are recording music performances or Broadway shows. It's so damn distracting. A better alternative would be to post "No Recording" signs, make an announcement before the show, and the have bouncers throw those crass rule breaking idiots out.
Oh no I might have to go without my phone for 1-2 hours, the world will surely end.
I'm just here for the "old man yelling at clouds" humor that is sure to ensue...
I have a friend who went to a concert to see a band he really wanted to see (Clutch), and there were 3 opening acts.
I am a big fan of them, so the next day I asked him how it was. He said he left before they even came on because it was a sea of people just holding up their phones. He wanted to go to hear AND see the band play, but he didn't get to do that.
When I heard of acts banning phones at their shows, my initial reaction was "oh come on!" but now I know that the average person simply CANNOT CONTROL THEMSELF when it comes to phones.
I now realize that I will never to go a concert unless phones are banned.
I'm getting too old for that anyway I guess.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
People actually PAY to see Jack White play?? ...
Seems like an easy enough experience to skip
I really do. I want you to feel it. Failing that, cancer, you complete waste of carbon atoms.
Or maybe a fatal crash with all your loved ones watching.
I disapprove of people jumping, dancing and waving their arms during a concert. How can you even see the show when you do that? What's the point? Don't even get me started on singing along. Sit down, shut up, and watch. My experience is the right experience.
From the FCC
"Jamming Prohibition
The use of "cell jammers" or similar devices designed to intentionally block, jam, or interfere with authorized radio communications (signal blockers, GPS jammers, or text stoppers, etc.) is a violation of federal law. Also, it is unlawful to advertise, sell, distribute, or otherwise market these devices to consumers in the United States. These devices pose serious risks to critical public safety communications, and can prevent you and others from making 9-1-1 and other emergency calls. Jammers can also interfere with law enforcement communications""
It doesn't have to be a powered device. if a 'bag' interferes with my ability to use a cell phone it is in violation of federal law.
douche bag
Not your job to police how I use my phone. Probably just texting because I'm always on-call, as I'm not into the filming of such an event. But nah. You can go with one less person attending your show. You do your job, and let me worry about what I do with a phone. I can't stand technophobes.
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If all he was looking to prevent was people filming the stage with their phones, and his solution is confiscation, I have a better idea. Since taking peoples phones away is kinda a dick move, you can be assured their camera lens will pickup most sources of infra-red light.
All you need to do is wire the stage with very high power(bright as fuck) IR lights. These are invisible to human eyes, so it doesn't disturb the 'mood' of whatever setup was originally though of, but anyone trying to shoot with their phones, in 9:16 no doubt, will be presented with the sun.
People get to keep their emergency contact devices and you get to claim ignorance as a 'technical fault'. Oops!
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A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
There are some shows I go to alone (because my taste of music isn't mainstream)... so yeah - it's nice to have a phone to kill time between bands rather than trying to make small talk with complete strangers (sorry - classic introvert here). Oh well - the pouches are pretty easy to defeat anyway. Note to venue security - is a felony assault charge worth it over a performer's no cell phone policy? As evidenced by the "cell phone free" Misfits shows at the end of 2017 - Yondr pouches were being torn open and discarded in the venue or thrown on stage as a "fuck you" to Glenn Danzig.
For the record, we've seen Doyle - he's fine with phones. The Misfits (with Jerry Only singing) and he was fine with he - hell... he'd hang out before the show and let fans take pictures with him.
Yeah - so it's a Danzig thing. He tried the "no cell phone" thing when we saw him a few years back. Danzig's a douche anyway. If I were that ugly I wouldn't wan't people taking my picture either.
We're doing this thing *my* way, or you're free to go fuck yourself. What, you say you're a paying customer who has a right to define their own experience? ðYðYðY
We want total humanity. None of dehumanizing electric
I'm fine with an artist choosing to do this as long as it is known at the time of ticket sales, so I can avoid buying tickets. After ticket sales, you owe me a full refund of my ticket price.