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Microsoft Office 2019 Will Only Work on Windows 10 (theverge.com)
Microsoft on Thursday provided an update on Office 2019, in which it revealed that the apps will only run on Windows 10. From a report: In a support article for service and support of Windows and Office, Microsoft has revealed you'll need to upgrade to Windows 10 if you want the latest version of Office without subscribing to the company's Office 365 service. It's a move that's clearly designed to push businesses that are holding off on Office 365 into subscriptions, as the standalone Office 2019 software will only be supported on Windows 10 and not Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 machines. Microsoft is also altering the support lifecycle for Office 2019, so it will receive 5 years of mainstream support and then "approximately 2 years of extended support."
Eat my ass, MS. I'm not running Windows 10, and you can't make me!
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As a self employed contractor software subscriptions are killing my business. Adobe has forced me into a subscription model where I'm paying 50$ a month to use their software, Microsoft is pretty much forcing the subscription model of Office 365 on me. Will Microsoft have Windows on a subscription model soon? My monthly fees are going to pile up it's going to make the decision to seek open source alternatives and simple choice.
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I can't imagine business standing for this. I'm sure many would run Office 2016 for 10 years if they had to.
I have to run Windows. It was my choice -- accounting software. It is really the ONLY reason Windows is in the office anymore...
Sadly Word / Excel work better on Windows IMHO; too many keyboard shortcuts missing in Office for Mac...
I hate ribbons too. Won't use them.
So I prefer Office XP which runs just fine on Windows 7 which run just fine virtualized running as a process on a Mac server.
Windows has no business talking to the Internet (so it can't) which removes a whole bunch of security issues. I can run like this indefinitely. So ... fuck you Microsoft.
If you ever wanted a road map to alienate all your customers Microsoft has provided it.
Personally, I gave up on them years ago, but if they keep going the way they have been, they will start driving mainstream users away. Is it any wonder the home PC market is nearly dead already.
First law of people: People are generally stupid.
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To that end, my main windows machine is 8.1; good until 2023... even more time to wrangle some good alternatives.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
That's fine by me. We're still using Office 2003. Works fine.
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Yeah, there's definitely no legitimate reason that an upcoming project would decide to deprecate support for an OS that will be 10 years old at the point of release (Win7 came out in '09). Supporting and doing quality assurance on multiple OS targets is totally free from an engineering and testing standpoint. All API features from newer OSes are backported to decades-old ones.
Note that LibreOffice dropped support for OSX 10.8 (2012) and required various Linux components (Kernel/GTK) from 2006.
Removing support for old stuff at the right time is part of the software flow. Supporting the everything-on-everything model means less resources (both development and testing) for other stuff. Surely there's a "too soon" for deprecation" but also a "too late". One decade sounds pretty dang reasonable.
If only people contributed to LibreOffice and Linux instead of giving billions to Microsoft you wouldn't be In the Windows 10 Monoculture. You have two years before Windows 7 expires, use that to plan your escape route.
h, there's definitely no legitimate reason that an upcoming project would decide to deprecate support for an OS that will be 10 years old
You really need to stop being a voice of reason around here. I mean we can't have these great hate microsoft bashing threads if you keep using your common sense.
Geezz. get with the program.
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A far more obvious and likely explanation is that they are simply reducing their costs by not supporting older versions of Windows. It costs money to develop for and test for those older versions, and to keep supporting them.
Most users never upgrade their version of Office. It comes with the PC, that's it. Businesses and home users alike. MS don't sell Windows 7 or 8.1 any more, so it will likely have near zero impact on their Office sales and save them a load of money.
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You really need to stop being a voice of reason around here.
Somebody has to. You should see my political campaign. I got in an argument with some guy who keeps telling me capitalism is past its end and it's time we moved on; he was very angry when I pointed out that the CEO of Home Depot taking lower pay and fewer bonuses wouldn't "pay for higher wages and benefits" because Home Depot has 300,000 employees and the entire executive suite nets $28/year per employee in cash compensation between them. His argument was I'm wrong because "their wealth is built on the backs of mistreated employees" (notice this ignores the numerical analyses).
Even when you ditch the socialists, that's the voice of today's progressive left movement: make the rich pay, make the businesses pay, make everybody with power pay, make Wall Street pay. I can agree with regulation about banks and such; and I'm interested in something today's progressives aren't talking about: strategies to bring the poor out of poverty and provide more economic fairness to the middle-class.
It makes people angry. It's like the progressive left don't really care about the poor, only about the rich. Somebody's got to say it.
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Well this goes for Windows 8.1 but everyone hates that one so we won't mention it.
And here's the link to give them your money.
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So the question to power users is: Has been any reason, i mean feature-wise, to upgrade Office since Office 2000 ?
If you are going to upgrade look at going to office 365, or 2016 if you don't want to go subscriptions. If you have office 2010, moving to 2013/2016 will get you some new feature but nothing really worth upgrading to in my option. The only reason I moved from 2013 to 2016 is because i subscribed to office 365, which is office 2016. But I used office 2013 at work and on my surface and I really don't notice much difference between it and 2016. If you have 2013 you are perfectly fine to stay there.
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Declaring Windows 7 "Unsupported" is one thing. Deliberately disabling the new software is another.
Because at some point, you will be given an Office 2019 file,
Which probably won't happen. I routinely work with 3 office versions, 2010, 2013, and 2016 and I have yet to see any compatibility versions between the 3 of them as for opening files. Granted, I don't use any really 2016 specific options.
As for the OP bitch, this will happen with any software. Even libreoffice eventually. At some point a new feature will be added to the suite that isn't compatible with older versions. So the OP point is pretty much a moot point.
An a interesting note I found a directory full of short stories I wrote on an Amiga 500 using wordperfect 4.2 back around 1992. Word 2016 opened all of them with out issues.
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No real reason to at this point....
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It makes people angry. It's like the progressive left don't really care about the poor, only about the rich. Somebody's got to say it
Sounds like the two of us have been to the same schools. I don't mind if someone wants to bitch and moan about something. I'm cool with that but at least have some ideal about what you are bitch'n about. Use your brain and don't just take the talking points from Foxnews or CNN as gospel. Yeah I like to honk off the alt left and the alt right.
Like the current arguments on the daca program. OMG, Trump is going to kick 800,000 people out of the country! Except that isn't what is happening. All he did was kick the program back to Congress where it belongs and told them to fix this mess.
An that is what is happening. Trump sends congress a compromise. Congress ether agrees, or sends it back with their conditions. An it goes back and forth till a deal is reached. But all progressives see is Trump is kicking 800,000 people out of the country.
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Google docs has some advantages but overall is imperfect. For home use I see nothing wrong with LibreOffice. I think the dominance of MS Office is nearly over. If I still ran a small office I might even be able to use LibreOffice these days.
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Seriously, FUCK Windows 10.
Oh the butthurt is strong in this one. Good good.
Seriously, all you people that don't run windows and only use libreoffice. Why do you even give a shit about office pricing or weather it will run on windows 7, 8 or what ever?
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Eh... smells like a Microsoft sockpuppet.
An you smell like the typical computer bigot doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. I remember the Amiga religious wars so I know what one sounds like. You think the sun shines out a penguins ass and open source is the best thing since sex and blow.
Well it isn't. Both windows and linux have their strengths and weaknesses. There are place where one belongs and the other doesn't. An that is a fact.
Attitudes like yours are not the answer to everything. In fact its this kind of crap that is part of the problem. Stop being part of the problem and grow up.
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Not true. The WinAPI (as it is now called) gained numerous new functions with Windows 7, 8, and 10. What it hasn't done much of is depreciate functions. My programs can still call unsafe array and string functions under Windows 10. The only issue I ever encounter is a MSVC compiler warning if I use them in my code.
I typically program using Windows 7 as my minimum WinAPI compatibility level (WINVER 0x601). I have come across a couple of functions that were only available for higher API levels that would have been nice to use, but I've been able to work around them. I imagine that as time goes by, that will be harder to do.
Try looking at some WinAPI documentation sometime. It isn't as static as you make it out to be.
You can also see the effects of the "progressive" left here on slashdot. Anything that doesn't fit the status quo of "trump bad" gets modded down.
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Well they do but people are acting like you have no choice in the matter. Nobody is forcing people to upgrade to windows 10 or even office 2019. There are plenty of choices out there you have to just decide which one you want to do. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head.
Yes windows 7 is in wide usage right now and its 10 years old. At the end of its life. An before someone chimes in that its still usable I would like to point out so is Centos 5 which is also EOL and no longer supported.
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Supported until 2023. It'll still be good for several years after that.
Your troll fu is weak.
To which you have my apologies. My troll fu has been weak all week scoring mostly overrateds. I will correct this, but for now I will be back under my bridge.
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Gay wedding cakes aren't shit
I'm not sure I understand the gay wedding cake issue ether. Some narrow minded individual doesn't want to make you a cake. Take your money and business elsewhere. So their personal life choices don't agree with your's. Are their choices hurting you? No? Then take there money and make them a damn cake.
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Your second paragraph is pretty much what they went for at one of the places I worked. Subscriptions are inherently risky for essential business software, partly because of the obvious lock-in effect and partly because of the potential for a product to be discontinued or otherwise modified in undesired ways without there being much if anything the business can do about it. For example, it's not hard to imagine an alternative version of today's story where customers using Win7 but O365 found that the latest O365 updates required Win10 to continue running and older versions of O365 would no longer work.
Even if you're an enterprise-level customer and maybe don't have the same reservations about Win10 as smaller businesses or individuals, you don't necessarily want your hand to be forced in terms of when you roll out updates to other important software just to avoid breaking dependencies, and that's what this new world of subscription-everything threatens.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
Well a escalation would put the issue in a new light. I guess my philosophy "its not hurting you so it none of your god damn business what consenting adults do in their spare time" doesn't appeal to everyone.
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