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Slashdot Asks: Which Smart Speaker Do You Prefer?

Every tech company wants to produce a smart speaker these days. Earlier this month, Apple finally launched the HomePod, a smart speaker that uses Siri to answer basic questions and play music via Apple Music. In December, Google released their premium Google Home Max speaker that uses the Google Assistant and Google's wealth of knowledge to play music, answer questions, set reminders, and so on. It may be the most advanced smart speaker on the market as it has the hardware capable of playing high fidelity audio, and a digital assistant that can perform over one million actions. There is, however, no denying the appeal of the Amazon Echo, which is powered by the Alexa digital assistant. Since it first made its debut in late 2014, it has had more time to develop its skill set. Amazon says Alexa controls "tens of millions of devices," including Windows 10 PCs.

A new report from The Guardian, citing the industry site MusicAlly, says that Spotify is working on a line of "category defining" hardware products "akin to Pebble Watch, Amazon Echo, and Snap Spectacles." The streaming music company has posted an ad for a senior product manager to "define the product requirements for internet connected hardware [and] the software that powers it." With Spotify looking to launch a smart speaker in the not-too-distant-future, the decision to purchase a smart speaker has become all the more difficult. Do you own a smart speaker? If so, which device do you own and why? Do you see a clear winner, or can they all satisfy your basic needs?

234 comments

  1. Alexa, obviously. by nospam007 · · Score: 0

    She's the only one that delivers me booze, food and any stuff I want.

    The others just change the channel, change the volume and turn off the lights.

    1. Re:Alexa, obviously. by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't want to voluntarily "bug" my house, sending audio and possibly even video to strangers out in the cloud with these always on products.

      And..if I want to listen to music at home, I'll play it on my more than capable stereo/AV set up through real speakers, amps etc...and get the full pleasure out of the situation.

      Ok, sure, I might have to get up...and go over to configure the playlist, but hell, I have to get up from time to time to get a beer anyway, so, what's the problem?

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      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    2. Re:Alexa, obviously. by slaker · · Score: 1

      There's something to be said for not getting out of my nice warm bed to shut off the lights in the rest of my house. Or, for that matter, telling the house to turn up the heat.

      Amazon has 20 years of my purchase history telling them that I like classical music. I use my smart speakers to listen to classical music. Are they getting new information? I don't think so.

      I do have my smart home stuff sitting on a VLAN so I can see what it's doing separate from the rest of my computers. Some of it phones home quite often. But nothing seems to be acting as a bug. It's very clear when data is going out to a service provider. I'm not really worried about someone bugging my place. What are they going to find? That I talk to my cats?

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    3. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Ms Slaker, I hear you're having sex. Your partner's browsing history indicates he likes his women bound and gagged while he spanks them with a riding crop."

    4. Re:Alexa, obviously. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      I don't want to voluntarily "bug" my house

      Do you have a cellphone? If so, then worrying about Alexa monitoring you is silly. A cellphone has far greater capability to track and eavesdrop.

    5. Re:Alexa, obviously. by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      I have the non-spying Sonos, and love it for the fact that the same music can be playing in every room at reasonable levels rather than the living room speakers blaring. I also like the fact that while my wife is sleeping, I can turn off the bedroom and adjacent bathroom speakers easily and keep listening myself.

      While functionally you could do this long before Sonos, not having to pre-wire the house based on what you might want in the future is a huge plus.

      I'm sure better things can or will be out there... I just don't want one that listens to me.

    6. Re:Alexa, obviously. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Do you have a cellphone? If so, then worrying about Alexa monitoring you is silly. A cellphone has far greater capability to track and eavesdrop.

      This is like telling the victim of a drive by shooting not to worry about a second car because they only have small caliber pistols.

    7. Re:Alexa, obviously. by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your purchase history is yours to share. Every conversation you have, too -- that's your choice. But please, do warn me when/if I visit your house, so I know that no talk is private there.

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    8. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But nothing seems to be acting as a bug.

      How would you know?

    9. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      It seems more like telling a person who constantly has someone else by their side pointing a gun at their head, that said person probably doesn't need to worry about drive-by shootings for the time being.

    10. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that's how it starts. Well done for being a useful idiot.

    11. Re:Alexa, obviously. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Alexa has the biggest ecosystem, but she listens about as well as my 3 year old.

      Google is 'smarter' and has better STT, but we really don't use that one as much.

      Both integrate just fine with home-assistant.io

    12. Re:Alexa, obviously. by slaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because I'm monitoring traffic on the relevant VLAN. It's pretty easy to tell what's going where. Unless you think that magic spying is happening on my network that I can't see for some reason.

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      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    13. Re:Alexa, obviously. by slaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pfft. This is Slashdot. Who in the hell has sex with a partner?

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      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    14. Re:Alexa, obviously. by magzteel · · Score: 1

      I don't want to voluntarily "bug" my house, sending audio and possibly even video to strangers out in the cloud with these always on products

      Get an Alexa Tap. You have to press a button to activate it and it is rechargeable too.

    15. Re: Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That only works for known knowns, not unknown unknowns.

      We can tell that you definitely don't know what you don't know.

    16. Re:Alexa, obviously. by zlives · · Score: 2

      i am sure its legal somewhere to marry your doll.

    17. Re:Alexa, obviously. by arth1 · · Score: 2

      There's something to be said for not getting out of my nice warm bed to shut off the lights in the rest of my house. Or, for that matter, telling the house to turn up the heat.

      I have one that does that. "Darling, can you turn the lights out when you come to bed? And perhaps turn the heat up a bit?"

    18. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Do you have a cellphone? If so, then worrying about Alexa monitoring you is silly. A cellphone has far greater capability to track and eavesdrop.

      This is like telling the victim of a drive by shooting not to worry about a second car because they only have small caliber pistols.

      Actually it's more like the first car might take a potshot but the second car is full of guys with machineguns ALREADY FIRING as they accelerate to pass.

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      Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
    19. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So when Amazon/Google/Apple gets hacked, and every word you've said gets dumped, you'll have no regrets. What if they have inaccurate information? Something got transcribed incorrectly, or someone else's horrific data gets mixed in with yours, and you have no way to prove it isn't yours. Even if you can prove it's not yours, it will be too late, the damage will have been done.

    20. Re:Alexa, obviously. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      How would you know if "something is acting as a bug" when looking at encrypted traffic (which you claim to be doing, but aren't really, because you aren't watching traffic 24x7.) Just admit you don't care.

    21. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get off your fat, lazy ass and adjust the thermostat like a human being instead of the fucking lazy dipshit you are.

    22. Re:Alexa, obviously. by RazorSharp · · Score: 2

      It's like 1984, except people actually pay for the pleasure of having Big Brother in their home. If the NSA hasn't infiltrated these devices, it's only a matter of time. Even if the NSA couldn't get to these things, it's evil enough that these companies are working to have profiles on huge swaths of the population so they can monetize it in whatever way possible.

      It's crazy that there are people on here defending these things. If the /. community isn't sufficiently paranoid, then society really is doomed to complacency.

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      "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
    23. Re:Alexa, obviously. by RazorSharp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What are they going to find? That I talk to my cats?

      This is the type of attitude that undermines privacy for those who actually need/want it.

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      "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
    24. Re:Alexa, obviously. by supremebob · · Score: 1

      Google Home already has an app for ordering stuff from Walmart now, right? Perhaps they need to team up with someone like Albertsons or PeaPod to get voice activated grocery ordering working on that platform as well.

    25. Re:Alexa, obviously. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Wharfedale Diamond 10.6's. I need a "smart" speaker like I need a "smart" TV. A reasonably-priced good-sounding speaker has all the smarts I need already present in it.

      And the sound quality is provided by fucking physics, not by trying to fake it with DSP processing.

    26. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The right answer is "I don't want that shit in my house"

      The Apple Homepod is probably the best "technical" speaker, but even that I don't want.

      Google and Amazon's devices are just frightening. Apple's at least has the balls to be on the side of the consumer in most cases.

    27. Re: Alexa, obviously. by houghi · · Score: 1

      To edit the playlist, i use my phone or a tablet or any other device that lets me reach the mpd server. I even can stream it to my phone when I am no home. https://www.musicpd.org/

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    28. Re:Alexa, obviously. by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      The Apple Homepod is probably the best "technical" speaker, but even that I don't want.

      AirPlay only, no line-in, no bluetooth, no thanks.

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      Eat the rich.
    29. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When someone is near you and on a phone, do you immediately stop talking lest your conversation be picked up and transmitted to god knows who? Also you realize that the main brands only transmit audio after being activated, so you'd have to be talking while someone was making a query to be "eavesdropped" on.

    30. Re:Alexa, obviously. by NominalLoss · · Score: 1

      bullshit, Apple is only on the side of the consumer when publicity is involved. They were practically silent during net neutrality conversations. They CONSTANTLY unlock phones for authorities - the one time they didn't it was because of the media picking the story up. You are willfully deaf and blind if you think Apple cares anymore about the consumer then anyone else.

    31. Re:Alexa, obviously. by Richard+Dick+Head · · Score: 1

      Google is not smarter. Occasionally it recites content from a webpage. Most exchanges go like this:

      Me: OK Google, what was that last song played?
      Spyware: I'm sorry, I can't do that right now
      Me: Really? That is incredibly annoying.
      Spyware: ...
      Me: OK Google, replay last song
      Spyware: I'm sorry, I can't do that right now
      Me: GRRRRR
      Spyware: ...
      Me: OK Google, play Mumble Mumble Mumble by Lil' Talentless
      Spyware: I'm sorry, you need a subscription to Google Play to play that content
      Me: I ALREADY OWN THE SONG ON GOOGLE PLAY YOU LITTLE SHIT
      Spyware: ...
      Me: *Throws speaker in trash*

  2. I like my dumb speakers by rrohbeck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't need speakers that eavesdrop on me. If I want that I'll use a microphone.

    1. Re:I like my dumb speakers by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      I also like a stereo image, and Apple's speakers promise that, but not out yet. Sorry, I'm happy with a pair of Yamaha monitors that work, don't need updates, don't phone home, and have a real flat response for mixing. If I want bass, I'll boost that on my EQ.

      Plus, wires can do better sound quality than any Bluetooth protocol.

    2. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen. Fuck "smart" anything if "smart" means spying on the user and piping that off to dev/amazon

    3. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      I see the BeauHD sycophants have started modding. Too bad I've already posted.

    4. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Nice to see that's already being combated.

    5. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I too prefer dumb speakers, but for different reasons than you:
      1) For the sound quality, they're almost assuredly cheaper.
      2) In the tech industry's timescale, they essentially never become obsolete.

      Most of the smart speakers either sound like crap or else sound far worse than comparably priced dumb speakers. Even if you buy into the HomePod hype, unless you're hopelessly technologically illiterate or you have no way to fit a stereo set in your home, why pay $350 for a device that simulates stereo when you can have actual stereo from better speakers for the same price? Toss in a wireless receiver with a wired output and you'll have better wireless compatibility than what the HomePod has, without any of the lock-in to AirPlay or Apple's ecosystem.

      On the other side, my parents have had the same speakers since before I was born (34 years ago). The speakers still work just fine. The dumb speakers I have today will—barring an accident—still be working just fine when the kid I have on the way is as old as I am today. Even if the world were to switch entirely to wireless or those wireless protocols were to change, I could simply swap out the aforementioned wireless receiver with a different one. Meanwhile, if I had bought into the HomePod or Alexa or whatever, I'd have to scrap the entire speaker to get on the new protocol.

      No thanks.

      If nothing else, the ones that are staking their name on sound quality at least need to give me a line in jack. Until then, so far as I'm concerned, they're smart accessories, not smart speakers.

    6. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually to match the freq. response and distortion you will be out at least ~1k dollars, per speaker. And that will not have good room compensation, so your sound will be shit unless you have a perfectly acoustically treated room. The hoepodd is not really a bad deal at all. The rest of the current smart speakers are exactly as you describe, though -- toys. Even if you have to buy two home pods to get stereo, its still a great deal in terms of sound quality.

    7. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      The reddit post on which I presume you’re basing your claims about response and distortion has been thoroughly debunked. You don’t need to be spending that much per speaker. Not even close.

    8. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      I like my dumb speakers

      Don't need speakers that eavesdrop on me. If I want that I'll use a microphone.

      In that case surely you mean you like your deaf speakers.

    9. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (other AC) The self-calibrating bass feature seems interesting.

    10. Re:I like my dumb speakers by niks42 · · Score: 1

      I have a pair of KEF 104 which were manufactured in 1978, and they are my go-to speakers. They've had the bass/midrange units replaced with some Peerless drivers about 15 years ago; still love them. I have yet to get Amazon Echo to play through them, but about to move house so that will be part of the new setup. I want Echo to play through external speakers when the amp is switched to that input, but otherwise use its internal speaker - so I might have to fit a small relay inside Echo to switch the output without having to unplug the 3.5mm jack.

    11. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you got yo be really dumb to like smart speakers

    12. Re:I like my dumb speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microphones don't eavesdrop on you anymore than your microwave does

  3. None by Jamlad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why the hell would I want something so Orwellian in my home? Cellphones are bad enough.

    1. Re:None by the_skywise · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear.
      Was about to post the same thing.
      Smart speakers are a novelty and it's fun to yell out "Alexa, Fire Photon Torpedoes" and get a response but I don't want or need a smart speaker. I've got bluetooth through my AV reciever - connect to it and bada bing, I'm controlling my smartphone music through it and I don't need wifi access or an Amazon/Apple/Google account for it.

    2. Re:none by omnichad · · Score: 1

      For what amount? I paid $19 for a Google Home mini and $25 for a Chromecast audio (both on Black Friday) to use my existing speakers with the Google Home mini.

      For $45, I don't think it's that big a waste.

    3. Re:None by pope1 · · Score: 1

      Orwell got so many things right in 1984, the only thing he really got wrong were the size of the screens...

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    4. Re:None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that it's not the governments that suppress free speech and thought but it's crazy social justice nut-jobs. America is not a "free country" anymore, and it's not because of the government but the loud fringe minority.

    5. Re:None by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Orwell got so many things right in 1984, the only thing he really got wrong were the size of the screens...

      Orwell was an optimist

      --fyngyrz*

      * Anon due to mod points, because Slashdot moderation rules are stupid. Soylent News does it better. A lot better.

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    6. Re:none by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      That's my beef with the Google Home Mini... Why not an audio jack Google? $45 on a Black Friday deal to get the same functionality as I can get with an Echo Dot for the non-sale price. Why the hell would you limit it to Bluetooth audio? Just so frustrating because the Google device is far better than Amazon's, but since I use most of mine for playing music, I'm going to go with the crappier device that works with every speaker in existence without an adapter.

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    7. Re:none by NominalLoss · · Score: 1

      You could pick up a Google Home mini for almost $5 after Google Play credits on Black Friday. Even today they only cost $29 bucks. Where the hell were you shopping?

    8. Re:none by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They were referencing my story. To get a 3.5mm or TOSLINK output for a Google Home Mini to use your own speakers, you have to buy a Chromecast Audio too. And those were down to $25 on Black Friday, and back to $35 today.

    9. Re:none by NominalLoss · · Score: 1

      Ah, I see. My bad.

  4. None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT

  5. I'll take a "dumb" speaker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi wiretap! Here's everything about my life!

    These devices do not "satisfy your basic needs". That phrase makes absolutely no sense for new technology. That implies we were all not able to survive before the advent of "smart" speakers.

    Now, get off my lawn.

  6. I'm a fan of NdGT by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I am a fan of Neil deGrasse Tyson.

    1. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Personally, I am a fan of Neil deGrasse Tyson.

      This wins the comment section.

    2. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit a pun, I'm calling mom to get dad on the phone so I can tell him it's ok to die now, such an epic day comes every thousand years or so

    3. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, I'm going to need someone to explain this to me. (posting anonymously cuz I hate admitting I'm an idiot)

    4. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ok, I'm going to need someone to explain this to me. (posting anonymously cuz I hate admitting I'm an idiot)

      From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]: speaker n 1: someone who expresses in language; someone who talks (especially someone who delivers a public speech or someone especially garrulous); "the speaker at commencement"; "an utterer of useful maxims" [syn: {speaker}, {talker}, {utterer}, {verbalizer}, {verbaliser}]

      "Smart speaker" -> someone who speaks publicly and is also intelligent. Neil deGrass Tyson is wellknown for both his intelligence and for his public speaking.

      I know that the headline was asking about the new gadgets for the home, but I was feeling snarky and decided to take advantage of the word sense ambiguity to be a little bit funny.

    5. Re: I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it might involve TED talks....

    6. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got it, thanks.

    7. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally, I am a fan of Neil deGrasse Tyson.

      Yeah, me too, but would you want him to sit on a shelf in your bedroom?

    8. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by tsa · · Score: 1

      Actually, just for a while to see how that looks would be fun.

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      -- Cheers!

    9. Re:I'm a fan of NdGT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is frickin hilarious...

  7. none by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any moron that cannot figure out you could buy a solar panel and battery bank for the amount they spend on this frivolous shit...it is just mind boggling how people cannot truly understand the worth of things in relation to how it improves your life and well being of yourself and your family.

    Do you know how much food you could get for that amount? Do you know how long you could go paying your rent with what 1 of these idiotic speakers cost?

    What the holy hell is wrong with peoples brains that they would do something so insanely stupid. The value to cost ratio is beyond out of whack.

    And for what? A speaker? You can get almost the exact same sound quality for 50$ from a pawn shop, most of the people who are doing this are doing it to show it off as a set piece for socializing other than that it probably just collects dust. The waste....

    I remember a sci-fi story where earth is devastated, aliens arrive to help and deliver technology to help around the house and improve their lives. The people tear it apart in secret out of the aliens eyes so they can build little miniature replicas to show off to each other while their children starve. The aliens eventually just stop sending shit because they realize they are just furthering the existence of a bunch of morons.

  8. The one that's not in my house by rockmuelle · · Score: 2

    'nuff said.

    -Chris

  9. Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not as stupid as I look. I refuse to let Google, Amazon, Apple, or anyone put a smart speaker into my home without a FISA warrant. Christ, are people really dumb enough to pay any of these dick companies to spy on them?

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    1. Re:Nope. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I refuse to let Google, Amazon, Apple, or anyone put a smart speaker into my home without a FISA warrant.

      You don't have a cellphone then, right? It's way more insidious to carry one in your pocket than to just have one in your house.

      I don't have a smart speaker either, but let's face it. Your phone can already be listening in on you. Have you analyzed whatever is being sent to play services recently?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not as stupid as I look. I refuse to let Google, Amazon, Apple, or anyone put a smart speaker into my home without a FISA warrant. Christ, are people really dumb enough to pay any of these dick companies to spy on them?

      So basically you never use microphones with the internet... ever, or just never with the above vendor’s software/hardware? Microphones have been built into laptops for how long now?

    3. Re:Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      You don't have a cellphone then, right?

      You mean my burner phone? My latest one is registered to a "J. Assange".

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    4. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you just admit to being a foreign spy? (Hint: That's what the FISA part of "FISA warrant" implies; you probably just meant "without a warrant.")

    5. Re:Nope. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      I don't have a smart speaker either, but let's face it. Your phone can already be listening in on you. Have you analyzed whatever is being sent to play services recently?

      The nice thing about Android is that it's more or less just Linux. iptables and tcpdump work just the same on Android as they do any normal Linux system.

      The other nice thing about Android it works just fine without any Google malware installed.

    6. Re:Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did you just admit to being a foreign spy?

      Yes. I am a double-naught spy, and an agent in the service of my homeland, San Marino. You don't realize it, but we meddled in your last election by placing subversive classified ads in the back of your Local Shopper.

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    7. Re:Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Did you just admit to being a foreign spy?

      Yes. I am a double-naught spy, and an agent in the service of my homeland, San Marino. You don't realize it, but we meddled in your last election by placing subversive classified ads in the back of your Local Shopper.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    8. Re:Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Hey, stop copying me.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    9. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have a cellphone then, right?

      You mean my burner phone? My latest one is registered to a "J. Assange".

      The fact that you're posting here under a username and not AC speaks volumes. You're a liar and an idiot. You don't use a burner phone, and if you seriously don't know that there are people dumb enough to buy this shit, then you've been living under a rock and don't even have a phone. You clearly are as stupid as you look.

    10. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically you never use microphones with the internet... ever, or just never with the above vendorâ(TM)s software/hardware? Microphones have been built into laptops for how long now?

      Software has to be installed to record and transmit information from laptop Microphones. Microphones can often be disabled in BIOS configuration of laptops depending on brand such that they are not accessible to operating systems.

      "SMART" "speakers" are designed to intentionally transmit what they pick up to someone else's servers for sale to the highest bidder subject to third party doctrine. No additional software or configuration required.

      There is no equivalence.

    11. Re:Nope. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      You're a liar and an idiot.

      You can stop trying to recruit me. I will not accept the GOP nomination to run for congress.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    12. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...double-naught...
      "Twice nothing is still nothing." (Cyrano Jones, 'The Trouble With Tribbles', 29-12-1967)
      :D

    13. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to post AC. The president of our company has his morning touch base with all of the managers in his large office. Sitting right next to the President is his Amazon eavesdropping device. All the important business things you can imagine happen with Amazon at the table--literally and figuratively.

    14. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not paying anyone to use the Google mini that came for free with my Pixel 2 XL. I'm even using it in the hope of boring anyone attempting to spy on me to death ;)

    15. Re:Nope. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The nice thing about Android is that it's more or less just Linux. iptables and tcpdump work just the same on Android as they do any normal Linux system.

      Actually, I've thought about this more, and you don't actually have any control over the really relevant part of the phone, the part that's on even when your phone is off.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    16. Re:Nope. by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Do you understand the difference between "can be listening to you" and "is advertised to keep listening to you" ?

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    17. Re:Nope. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Do you understand the difference between "can be listening to you" and "is advertised to keep listening to you" ?

      One is easier to feel smug about?

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    18. Re: Nope. by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      So you don't know the difference. Ask an adult.

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    19. Re: Nope. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So you don't know the difference. Ask an adult.

      Do you know any?

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    20. Re: Nope. by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Do I know any difference ? Yes.

      Do I know any adults you can ask this ? No idea, not willing to scout.

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    21. Re: Nope. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Do I know any adults you can ask this ? No idea, not willing to scout.

      No, I mean, do you know any adults? You're not behaving like one.

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    22. Re: Nope. by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, you wouldn't recognize one, anyway.

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  10. I think I'll pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every sound I make in the privacy of my home instantly recorded and stored in perpetuity on both Amazon servers and Bluffdale Utah.
    I can do without the rather trivial QoL features it offers.

  11. First... by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

    Explain why I would want to replace my current speakers with a smart speaker.

    1. Re:First... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your current speakers aren't sending all the data they can collect about you off to advert agencies. How will you know what to buy? How will you be able to order exciting new products and services?

      Not only that, but think about tasks like turning on the lights. You can't do that right now, can you? Well, if you had a smarter speaker, you could just tell it to turn on the lights for you, and poof, they'd be on.

      Just think about all the things you can't do right now, that you could do if there was a direct line from the inside of your house to a major marketing and data broker company.

    2. Re:First... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but think about tasks like turning on the lights. You can't do that right now, can you? Well, if you had a smarter speaker, you could just tell it to turn on the lights for you, and poof, they'd be on.

      X10 doesn't need to talk to the mothership in the cloud. You control it all from within your house. It even works when internet is down.

      Why, exactly, do home control need to talk outside the home?

    3. Re:First... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be one of those "sarcasm impaired" sorts I keep hearing about.

  12. Normally I would say none by OzPeter · · Score: 0

    Normally I would say none, but I was impressed by the voice interface for my Amazon fire stick (although it fails on my accent every now and again). At least with this device you have to press a physical button in order to activate it. (Of course I could be paranoid and think that the button really does nothing at all)

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  13. The Dumb One by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, I'd prefer all my output devices be as stupid as digitally possible.

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    1. Re:The Dumb One by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Yes. As I've said many times, I do not want a relationship with my machinery.

    2. Re:The Dumb One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I do not want a relationship with my machinery."

      Time to return the RealDoll.

    3. Re: The Dumb One by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid those days are getting numbered. It's hard enough to get a dumb TV these days.

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    4. Re:The Dumb One by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer all my output devices be as stupid as digitally possible.

      I'm trying sooo hard right now to resist Trump jokes, it hurts.

    5. Re:The Dumb One by SallyBowls · · Score: 1

      For stupid, I have coworkers and friends. I prefer my electronics smart.

    6. Re: The Dumb One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just have to spend more.

    7. Re:The Dumb One by antdude · · Score: 1

      Analog too like 3.5mm type. :P

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    8. Re:The Dumb One by PPH · · Score: 1

      [Sigh] I miss my 1/4" headphone jack.

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    9. Re:The Dumb One by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of some folksy wisdom - every time you point the finger, three more are pointing right back at you.

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  14. Richard Dawkins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Richard Dawkins is certainly one of the best smart speaker.

  15. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple finally launched the HomePod,

    Beau's italicized finally makes me think she waited in breathless anticipation, got all wet when it arrived, and took a dump when it wasn't all she expected.

    Or maybe it was msmash. I care not.

  16. A corporation-controlled microphone in my home by mi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With Spotify looking to launch a smart speaker in the not-too-distant-future, the decision to purchase a smart speaker has become all the more difficult.

    The decision is as easy as it always was: Don't!

    Seriously, after talking about the dangers of eavesdropping and the big brother, having the computer's camera covered, who would possibly pay money to have a permanently-connected microphone installed in their dwelling?

    You may think, you can turn it off, but you can not be certain. If the criminals and intelligence agencies manage to break into your computer, why would they not break into your "smart speaker"? Police too may find it much easier to gain the cooperation of the device's manufacturer to listen on you, than to get a warrant and then wire your house without you noticing.

    Just say no and control your music the old-fashioned way — as we all did only a few years ago.

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    1. Re:A corporation-controlled microphone in my home by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Police too may find it much easier to gain the cooperation of the device's manufacturer to listen on you, than to get a warrant and then wire your house without you noticing.

      After all, the mainstream news said they already did it with OnStar, a few years back, using it to bug the cars of some suspected crooks with the assistance of the company. (They got in legal trouble for it - not because of the bugging, but because it interfered with the emergency service coverage that OnStar was selling.)

      At least with THAT product the benefit side of the equation was getting help dispatched immediately in an auto accident, rather than listening to RIAA music-like product in medium-FI.

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    2. Re:A corporation-controlled microphone in my home by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      You may think, you can turn it off, but you can not be certain

      Sure you can. You can unplug it from the wall. Teardowns have shown that they do not have any significant battery capacity.

  17. I'm on the fence by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    I like the technology and theoretically the sound quality of the HomePod and trust Apple more than other companies not to do anything with the audio from the device, and to treat security seriously enough it probably will not be hacked.

    I like Alexa because it would be possibly useful for quick orders of random things that I don't need soon but end up forgetting to order. I also like they've opened the skill development SDK.

    Google stuff I generally do not trust enough and it doesn't have enough benefits over the other two options to warrant consideration.

    A last option I'm seriously considering though, is just getting a really nice set of speakers to put wherever I'd put a smart speaker, and then buy a box to make them AirPlay compatible (if they did not come that way already). Smart speakers are just over that line for me of a convenience I'm not sure I really care about, also why I do not have a smart thermostat yet (because I know how to program the existing older one to be about the temp I want at various times). The new set of nice compact speakers would probably be a lot cheaper than a stereo pair of smart speakers...

    I'll probably try to hear all of the options in person somewhere before I make a choice on this one, I'm really particular with speakers as I don't care as much about about the low end as many people seem to.

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    1. Re:I'm on the fence by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      A last option I'm seriously considering though, is just getting a really nice set of speakers to put wherever I'd put a smart speaker, and then buy a box to make them AirPlay compatible (if they did not come that way already).

      While it's questionable whether Apple is going to update the hardware... I've used the Airport Express for this sort of thing. Alternatively, if you want optical audio out, you could do the same thing with a cheap third-gen Apple TV (probably cheaper than the Express).

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    2. Re:I'm on the fence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My god some people are out of touch. Of course companies will do everything they possibly can do monetize audio they pick up. They all will, regardless of whether it's Amazon or Apple or Google. They will use the audio in ways you haven't even though of yet. They also all will inevitably get hacked, even if it's never publicly disclosed.

      The "sound quality" stuff is nonsense too. These are NOT quality speakers. They're not even stereo for fucks sake.

      It is incredibly naive to think that profit-motivated companies will not behave like profit-motivated companies.

    3. Re:I'm on the fence by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      I've used the Airport Express for this sort of thing. Alternatively, if you want optical audio out, you could do the same thing with a cheap third-gen Apple TV (probably cheaper than the Express).

      The Airport Express also has optical out built-in.

      Yaz

    4. Re:I'm on the fence by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I'd forgotten those were optical out, since they also handle analog (and that's how I've generally used them). The Express is certainly more flexible in that regard. If you can get them from Apple's refurbished store, and if you're in the Mac ecosystem, they're worth grabbing for $65 or thereabouts.

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    5. Re:I'm on the fence by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      If you can get them from Apple's refurbished store, and if you're in the Mac ecosystem, they're worth grabbing for $65 or thereabouts.

      They're great little gadgets -- I'm rather sorry that Apple hasn't really done anything with them for some time (while I can understand they want to differentiate, would it have killed them to release an 802.11ac version). I have two -- an 802.11n model acting as an AirPlay server connected to my surround receiver and as a second access point for my WiFi network (for better coverage in the living room and back yard -- this is where 802.11ac would be nice, as my main WiFi access point is 802.11ac), and an older 802.11g model. The second one burnt out its 5V power supply -- I keep it around as I've convinced myself that some day I'll fix the PSU and use it as another AirPlay sink.

      Yaz

    6. Re:I'm on the fence by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      trust Apple more than other companies

      Google stuff I generally do not trust enough and it doesn't have enough benefits over the other two options to warrant consideration.

      It's interesting that Google Home Max offers you a physical microphone disable button, and a detachable power cable, a line in and a USB port. Google also differentiates users by voice, unlike Apple that allow random people to read your text messages, calendar, order stuff etc.

      I'm not saying Google respects your privacy more than Apple, but they certainly offer more privacy enhancing features.

      Oh, and Google Home Max has real stereo.

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    7. Re:I'm on the fence by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Interesting points that it can distinguish the owners voice and has a physical microphone disable. Those are pretty good features and bring that unit into consideration, as you say they are practical privacy features from the consumers side of things.

      The USB in is a bit of a mixed bag as it makes the unit theoretically easier to hack, but also easier to attach other players which is a net win I'd say (if that's what the USB port is for).

      HomePod will have real stereo also, later this year when you can pair them like you can with two Google Home Max units. I still think I need to hear all these different units in person but the points you raised will make me take a look at the Home Max, which I was not planning to before. Thanks!

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  18. None of the above by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

    I hate all voice command systems, and basically won't ever use any of them. I don't use them on phones, don't use them in cars, and sure as hell don't want one in my home. I imagine they might be useful or fun to some people, and that's great, but not to me.

    1. Re: None of the above by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't even stand voice payment systems on phones. If there is a touch tone option I use it.

  19. None. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None is the best by far! Clearly superior to having one.

  20. I don't mind a smart speaker ... by bigjocker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... it's the smart microphone that is always listening the one I don't like.

    It's just a matter of time until somebody gains unauthorized access to the microphone on one of those devices and starts recording every sound in your house. No way they are getting my secret lasagna sauce recipe.

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    1. Re: I don't mind a smart speaker ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the microphones attached to your computers are protected by ... what ...

    2. Re: I don't mind a smart speaker ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Question, do virus scanners detect microphone access?

      Does your operating system alert you when an application activates the mic?

      Have you ever attached a microphone on any programmable machine attached to the internet, with software you do not fully trust?

      Is /. like the Special Olympics of Internet forums or something? There is no difference security-wise between these speakers and any other microphone attached to an untrusted system. If you trust a computer running who knows what over a locked down appliance, thatâ(TM)s INSANE.

    3. Re:I don't mind a smart speaker ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't wait until some hacker steals my shower singing recordings. I'll get trillions from the copyright violations. I have 50 smart speakers in my bathroom. Come get me.

    4. Re: I don't mind a smart speaker ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A limited battery life.

  21. Wouldn't have one if you GAVE it to me by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    Keep your surveillance devices out of my house.

    1. Re:Wouldn't have one if you GAVE it to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if it came with wooden panels, it would keep you warm for fifteen minutes...

    2. Re: Wouldn't have one if you GAVE it to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Onion: ... says man with internet connected smart TV, a cell phone, gaming PC full of torrented software with headset attached, and work laptop with embedded microphone running proprietary OS.

    3. Re: Wouldn't have one if you GAVE it to me by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      LOL you mean me?
      I do not own a smart TV
      Cellphone is a $50 basic flip-phone that's turned off 95% of the time
      I don't play games on my PC, and there is no microphone or camera attached to it
      Work laptop has the camera and microphone physically disabled

      I think you're just angry because you bought into all that crap and now your wife and kids will make your life miserable if you try to get rid of them. So tell us: how are you enjoying being under a microscope 24/7/365? Is it fun for you? xD

  22. Troll? by EvilSS · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we mod articles troll? Asking THIS audience THAT question? Come on!

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    1. Re:Troll? by PLLaDeDa · · Score: 1

      The more important question should be can get an answer without all the "OH MY GOD NO! (The Government/Apple/Amazon/Google/Someone) WILL HEAR EVERYTHING!"

    2. Re:Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When did you stop beating your wife? Which smart speaker do you prefer? Do you prefer your ads served with Javascript or Flash?

  23. Mycroft on Raspberry Pi by Speare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's an OSS variant (probably several) which aren't given due attention in the article.

    The Mycroft project currently listens locally for the watch word, and aggregates ALL of the subsequent queries as audio through a single source to the online engines like Google, Wolfram or others. This anonymizes a lot of what the engines could learn about individual users.

    Their next stage is to expand on the local processing even more, so they will only be sharing plain text to the online engine third parties. This version is due in the first half of this year.

    For me, the benefit is simple local Linux-based Python-based skill development. When my kid was young I would make a family computer into a sort of daily-schedule-keeper, announcing the daily tasks like bathtime or bedtime. I would ssh into the machine when my kid started having "conversations" with the computer. So now I can rebuild a little bit of that in my own personalized smart speaker.

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  24. None of the above by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer a speaker that doesn't listen in my every conservation in the house. Shades of Big Brother.

  25. Penis hats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like putting smart speakers up my ass. The only problem is, I once ended up ordering a double ended dildo from amazon one time when I farted. Normally that wouldn't be a problem, but that dildo was just too small.

    1. Re:Penis hats by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Nope, that's just Amazon already knowing you had smart speakers up your ass and decided that a smaller dildo would be needed because a lot of room was already taken.

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  26. Echo chamber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cue ~ 100 posts modded to at least 4 about Orwell, dumb speakers, spying devices etc.

  27. OSS [Re:None] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Most slashdotters probably want an OSS version(s). Ideally the hardware, OS, and answering software could be sold and installed separately. Otherwise, you'll probably end up with talking & snooping spam.

    1. Re:OSS [Re:None] by AlanBDee · · Score: 2

      It's been done but needs work I'm sure. A raspberry pi and Mycroft is just a recipe /.ers love. https://mycroft.ai/

      I have no plans on get a smart speaker or make one. I'm not that worried about privacy. I just don't see a real benefit from having one. I like my terminal when using a computer. I like my wireless keyboard/mouse combo for controlling the computer attached to my TV. It's a bit more raw and I prefer it that way.

    2. Re:OSS [Re:None] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      If one does a lot of house-work or hobbies with their hands, such as cooking, repairing cars, building battle-bots, etc.; then a hands-free digital assistant could be handy, if done right.

    3. Re: OSS [Re:None] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true. Annoying while cooking to wash your hands, answer a text, then have to wash your hands again so you can continue cooking. Not quite as bad for housework, but still, good point.

    4. Re:OSS [Re:None] by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      I had a quick look at Mycroft and it looks as if it needs to phone home to some third-party server. If I were to build such a thing, the primary requirement would be no network connection from the process that did speech recognition - it should trigger other actions in other processes that might connect to the network, but no process should be both network connected and able to access my microphone.

      CMU Sphinx makes it easy to write something that listens for phrases and performs actions based on them.

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    5. Re:OSS [Re:None] by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I had a quick look at Mycroft and it looks as if it needs to phone home to some third-party server.

      You can use Mycroft without Mycroft home, although presumably many skills will depend on it.

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  28. Alexa, is a lot better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I created an skill to use a smart speaker to turn on/off my TV, what I found is that the Alexa is a lot better in this apartment,

            Alexa has a SDK for entertainment devices, so Is possible to create an skill to do more than just "switch" function, is possible to control the volume, change channel, change input, the problem is the documentation is very bad, Amazon doesn't listen the suggestion from developers like me. publish the skill is really easy.

          Google Home, here are the actions, create an action is a little more easy, but right now is only possible to turn on/off a TV, google doesn't support other functions, and publish the Action, is a very long process, and third party need to test it and approved first, The third party service is free for the basic/easy certification.

          Both are far from perfect, the bigger problem for me, is when a user ask for support, most of the time the problem is with smart home and not with my Remotsy product and is very hard to probe it.

  29. Any "dumb" speaker will win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any "dumb" speaker hooked up to a computer under your own control is going to wipe the floor with these silly toys that you're talking about. How the fuck are Apple/Amazon/Google even in the running?

  30. 1966 KLH Model 7 by Foundling · · Score: 1

    A speaker with no microphone and no internet connection. My living room conversations are not any company's business.

  31. Mycroft by q4Fry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am considering backing the Mycroft 2. I am not about to pipe all my audio to Google, Apple, Amazon, et al., but this seems like a fun toy. I passed on the v1 because it used Google's STT, but this one apparently has 8 different STT options, one of which is Mozilla-developed and can run on local hardware.

    According to Fast Company, their business model is framed around selling voice services to major companies who are similarly wary about sending client data to Big Tech firms. (The for-example is Land Rover-Jaguar.) This seems reasonable, and it provides incentive for Mycroft (which is open source; in part? in full? I can't quite tell) to continue to play honest or risk the cash from the privacy-conscious corporate partners that they hoped to attract.

    I'm not totally sold, yet. I'd be interested in /. views one way or the other, or anecdotes from anyone who has a v1.

  32. Facebook's Aloha smart speaker by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    Yes, I would please like to be victimized by cyber stalking malware devices you actually have to pay money to own.

  33. If you have a cellphone you are already bugged... by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

    please stop with the madness of it being a listening device! You carry a microphone in your pocket everywhere you go. If you were really worried about that you'd stop carrying that device.

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  34. Echo/Alexa clear winner (in general) at the moment by cmeans · · Score: 2

    I have both Echo and Google Home. Though, because of the cost, I have Echo Dots in every room, and just an Echo and one Google Home in the living room.

    I have many Smart Home devices, mostly Z-Wave and Zigbee (SmartThings controller, Philips Hue bulbs/light strips, Harmony hub & Kodi). By far the Echo's have worked better at controlling my smart home, but Google Home is (very very) slowly catching up, and does have a "few" features that make it better in general, but the price (per room) means it's not enough of an edge to switch out the Echo Dots. Google Home generally wins hands-down with a voice search, Alexa relies on Bing, so it's got both cables tied behind it's back.

    The Amazon Echo still has a way to go on music control, unit grouping, and some other functionality, but it's been leading the pack since it's introduction, and nothing is close to it as yet. Hopefully, Amazon and Google will get over their spat, so that I can get Google Search instead of Bing.

  35. A live microphone is not a speaker by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Having some brand collect on all talking via a live mic is not a "speaker".
    The basic need of a speaker is for music, tv, movies, games.
    No big brand mic for ads and spying needed.

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  36. Trust too much by zferrini · · Score: 1

    I do not own one of these. Trusting any corporation too much will be the downfall of humanity. We might as well just have trusted Hitler to govern our lives.

  37. No thanks. by Camaro · · Score: 1

    And it's not really because I'm worried about somebody spying on me, as I realize as a user of a smartphone, it's happening anyway (to some extent). But I have come to understand that there's some things I just don't need technology to do for me. I can pick up my phone or sit at a computer and order something. I can get up and turn on some music. The house has a programmable thermostat to turn the heat up and down and teenagers I can tell to turn the lights off when they go to bed.

  38. the wife.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    need reminders? nobody is better at nagging, and no snooze or dismiss button to tap. and you got questions? she's definitely got the answers.

    upkeep is a little high (not to mention, insanely expensive to 'recycle'), and there's no mute button, but they got uhhh.. 'abilities' and features, that even the combined power of siri, alexa, cortana and google cannot possibly do.

    1. Re:the wife.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... but they got uhhh.. 'abilities' and features, that even the combined power of siri, alexa, cortana and google cannot possibly do.

      Be patient, the deficiencies are being worked on even as we write this.

      The real question will soon be : who wants to deal with the bullshit a wife brings when machines can do the same thing without the bulllshit ?

  39. The non-working one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speakers should be dumb devices, not smart

  40. Singular? by SallyBowls · · Score: 1

    I have an Amazon Echo for Alexa and will get an Apple speak for sound quality.

  41. I've still got my FBI wiretap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see no reason to upgrade.

  42. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cell phone stays in a pelican case when I don't use it.

  43. The Telescreen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fucking facist troll cunts

  44. I would like a smart speaker neutrilizer by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    It would be a speaker that automatically plays Donald Trump's voice into the smart speaker, with the appropriate command word. Have him ask for stupid things, repeatedly.

    Fill the spies ears with enough false information and they should lose money.

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  45. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even my dumb-phone stays at home most of the time.

  46. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

    How about the microphone on your computer? Or your XBOX? Or your tablet? Or any of hundreds of other devices you probably have with microphones on them? Have you expunged your home of those?

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  47. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cell phone has no data plan. I connect to wifi only to download apps.

  48. None by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    I have a portable Bluetooth speaker that is on wheels and have a handle like a suitcase that I can take all over the house or tailgating even. That's smart enough for me.

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  49. Very sneaky question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very sneaky and mostly skanky question. Why is the question framed as "which smart speaker do you prefer"? That's kinda like asking "when did you stop beating your wife"?

    First off, they aren't so much speakers as microphones. Second, I'm going out on a limb here but I'm guessing not many /. readers would ever consider putting a microphone in their house and allow google/amazon/ms/apple/whoever unfettered access to it.

  50. 3 echo dots each with a $100 pair of bose speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have 3 echo dots each with a $100 pair of bose speakers. ($450 total.) The reason for this arrangement is each room cost $150 and all 3 rooms play music in sync. Other speakers support multi-room. But I prefer the mic array plus the combo of spotify and multi-room. People don't know that alexa features are crippled on non-amazon devices. Alexa on any speaker other than an amazon echo of some kind does not support spotify and multi-room together.

  51. Alexa, make me the POTUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, so that's how it happened!

  52. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    please stop with the madness of it being a listening device! You carry a microphone in your pocket everywhere you go. If you were really worried about that you'd stop carrying that device.

    When your getting beat up by a girl please stop with the madness of asking her to stop. She already punched you. It's not logical to worry about being punched again.

  53. They will be stereo in pairs by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    My god some people are out of touch. Of course companies will do everything they possibly can do monetize audio they pick up.

    You are pretty out of touch off you think Apple will, since it would kill a lot of valuable goodwill built tip around a message of consumer privacy. I don't think you have a full grasp on intangible value or the profits that generates.

    They also all will inevitably get hacked, even if it's never publicly disclosed.

    Yes, but Apple will at least treats device security seriously so a hack is much less likely than a Google or Amazon device would be. That's why HomeKit has been slower in support, since Apple requires more security from device makers that add HomeKit support.

    The "sound quality" stuff is nonsense too. These are NOT quality speakers. They're not even stereo for fucks sake.

    For someone who chides others at being "out of touch" it's kind of humorous you do not know that the > Google Home Max and HomePod speakers can operate in a pair to act as true stereo speakers. Or rather in the case of the HomePod, they will - stereo speaker support is scheduled to be activated later this year.

    It is incredibly naive to think that profit-motivated companies will not behave like profit-motivated companies.>

    The difference between us is, I understand the full range of what "profit" entails. Apple profits substantially by consistently not abusing customer privacy.

    I agree that profit-motivated companies will try to maximize profit. But there are many different ways of doing that.

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    1. Re:They will be stereo in pairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They will use your voice data to improve their TTS systems for free (you used to be able to be paid for providing services like this). They will data mine everything they receive to figure out more efficient ways of selling you things you don't need. They may track which shows, movies, and songs are played in the background and resell that data as well as update your profile. Those instant reorder items are more expensive and companies pay to have their products as the default item, thus promoting anti-competitive behavior and shutting out the non-mega companies.

      Apple has had hacks in the past and will have hacks in the future. No one has been immune, Apple is just the best at suppressing knowledge of them. Less people flame Apple, so Apple bugs aren't as newsworthy. They are better at end-user security, but that's just as much for keeping you secured to them as it is protection for you. Due to their excessive price, it would be a risk to own an Apple device if stolen devices were easily reused.

      A piece of paper for your shopping list fulfills your requirements and is far cheaper. If that's too difficult, use the memo feature on your smart phone (watches with audio recording features are decades old too. Buy one for under $40). There's also the open source MyCroft microphone/speaker which also has an open SDK. The smart speakers don't let you order things while you're in your car or at a friend's house. Perhaps you should buy their next portable, battery operated version so you can carry it around in your pocket and talk with it at any time. Or perhaps they'll start having phone numbers so you can call to get its advice. Eventually we'll all have one embedded in our brain (like the Old Man's War series), but the tech isn't there yet. Expect it in less than 5 human generations.

      I'm not against smart speakers just because, I'm against them because they're needlessly designed to phone home and push people towards unnecessary spending. Though as a full-time eBay seller, selling people's beloved stuff pays the bills and keeps me out of the 9-5 world so go ahead and buy, buy, buy. When you regret it or need more cash for your next item, I'll take it off your hands for a 20th of the cost. It's sad that people can support themselves by upselling other people's trash. We throw out far too much, thus we buy way too much.

  54. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My computers don't have microphones and I have no tablets, as these are useless. I have a security camera, but the only connection it is allowed to do is to my AWS ftp storage.

  55. Logitech Speakers + Woofer + Rasberry Pi + ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... Music Player Daemon.

    I don't trust these preconfectioned "smart speakers". Don't trust them. For obvious reasons.

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  56. There are no smart speakers by Solandri · · Score: 1

    They're all dumb speakers connected to microphones which transmit a recording of your voice to some Internet-based server.

    A true smart speaker would have the voice recognition built into it. If a PC in the 1980s could do it, surely a modern ARM processor can. Then based on what was spoken, it would turn a light on/off, turn on the TV and start a movie, use your Spotify account to play a song, etc. It would only send your query for cloud processing if you specifically asked. e.g. Convert "what time does the closest Panera close?" to a text-based Google search query, get the answer back, and speak the answer. It would never send a recording of the audio in your house to the Internet unless you specifically asked for it (e.g. "what's the name of this song?").

    Such a product doesn't exist yet. Because everyone is tripping over themselves to harvest data from users.

  57. None. Press-button-on-purpose only, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thanks.

  58. Not so dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I also like a stereo image, and Apple's speakers promise that

    We use an Echo Dot: nice minijack on the back, plugged it right into our theater system. Sounds very good, likewise images perfectly, etc.

    If I want bass, I'll boost that on my EQ.

    Those little Sonos / Alexa / etc. speakers don't offer much bass capacity - turning up an EQ won't help beyond their limits, which are very near and not very deep. A good system with significant woofage and/or subwoofage is the way to go if you actually want things to actually sound good.

    Of course, the generation that grew up with earbuds may have an entirely different perception of what "good" means, which is to say... well, never mind.

    --fyngyrz*

    * Anon due to mod points, because Slashdot moderation rules are stupid. Soylent News does it better. A lot better.

    1. Re: Not so dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit the last thing I want is one of these stupid speakers that are actually fully functional computers hooked up to some really loud speakers.
      When these things get hacked the flashing lights and randomly locking doors will be annoying enough without super loud porno sounds.

    2. Re: Not so dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember when stealth goatse links were still a thing on slashdot and flash was useful and great etc.
      So, I once clicked and got a silly music and the "lemon party" picture.
      Another time it was a pop-up with whatever pics and a looping voice "Hey guys! I'm looking at gay porn!"

      I would take this kind of garbage over current day "analytics" that make me afraid of even checking email or riding the metro.

    3. Re:Not so dumb by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      What would have been nice of the Echo Dot and possible the Echo (I don't have one so presume it's the same as the Dot) would have been if the 3.5mm jack also had an optical out. I would much rather use the DAC in my HiFi than the one in the Dot; it is of significantly better quality, not unsurprisingly as it cost many times the price of a Dot.

      The other thing that is a nuisance is that if you plug in 3.5mm lead into the Dot then it cuts the internal speaker. Well my HiFi is not always on, so if I ask Alex for the weather forecast I would like it to play through the internal speaker. If I want to listen to some music then and only then do I want it to go through my HiFi, and then only if I tell her to use it.

  59. Slashdot... sigh by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Oh crap. There go my moderations. Thanks for nothing, Slashdot.

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  60. How about... by MerlTurkin · · Score: 1

    NONE of them.

  61. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

    And you don't think uncle sam has access to those?

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  62. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

    That wasn't my point at all. But then you already knew that.

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  63. Donliza [Re:I would like a smart speaker neutr] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    It would be a speaker that automatically plays Donald Trump's voice into the smart speaker, with the appropriate command word

    I do T impressions when telemarketers call. If I can automate a T-bot to keep them busy and waste their time, that would be great! Sample script:

    Marketer: "Hi Fred, this is your friendly local telecom provider. We'd like to offer you a special deal on bundled phone, cable, and Internet. Are you interested?"

    T: "I make the best deals, believe me! If you have a great deal for me, that would be fantastic."

    Marketer: "The three-service bundle is only $119 a month for one year and comes with HBO."

    T: "HBO is for total luuuzers."

    M: "Okay, but the bundle is still less expensive than purchasing all 3 services separately. You don't have to watch HBO."

    T: "Your competitor made me a better deal."

    M: "Fubar Co.? That's the only other competitor in your area, we bribed...I mean out-competed the rest. What did they offer you?"

    T: "I won't say, that would spoil my negotiating position."

    M: "We know what they offer, we follow them closely. Our deal is better."

    T: "Fake news!"

    M: "So you really want to pay more?"

    T: "They are nicer to me; I reward loyalty."

    M: "How were we mean to you?"

    T: "You gave me fake news. Totally unacceptable."

    Etc...

  64. None by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I don't want the NSA in my house, thanks.

  65. Echo Dot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Echo Dot, primarily because it has:
    a. A hardware button that supposedly turns off the microphone
    b. A standard stereo jack to connect to an AVR and use better speakers

    I keep the echo dot's microphone turned off all the time save for a couple of hours in the evening.

    The echo dot is connected to a denon AVR which is connected to some nice speakers.

  66. How about "None"? by rnturn · · Score: 2

    I don't want to talk to my speaker(s). I don't want or need for my speakers to order pizza for me or to tell me the capital of Montana. I don't need or want my speakers listening to me and sending data back to some monolithic infotech company who thinks what it's learned about me through eavesdropping on what takes place in my home is fair game to be sold to its business partners. All I want my speakers to do is faithfully reproduce the music I send to them. That's it.

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  67. Why is this on Slashdot? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    This is the type of question you'd ask on a news for nerds site. A tech site where people would be interested in having gadgets.

    Slashdot hasn't been that since back when Linux got USB support. That was the pinnacle of all technological advancement. It's now a site for dissing all mobile phones, being proud of keeping your old battery replaceable phone working, celebrating Apple supporting ancient iPhones, praising laptops that are 7+ years old, questioning why anyone would wear a watch, and wondering why wireless headphones even exist.

    In what world did the submitter and more importantly the editor who approved the submission think they'd get any kind of a positive response to this question on THIS site.

    1. Re:Why is this on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feel free to fuck off back to gizmodo if you don't like it here.

    2. Re:Why is this on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the type of question you'd ask on a news for nerds site. A tech site where people would be interested in having gadgets.

      Slashdot hasn't been that since back when Linux got USB support.

      I think this news doesn't fit on this website, but for a totally different reason. This is a website where people value privacy. Where people think we already have enough of a surveillance state by having cellphones with us. Asking us which microphone we want to have on our living rooms, recording everything, which company we trust the most with all our conversations, is not having a clue of the audience here...

    3. Re:Why is this on Slashdot? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Feel free to fuck off back to gizmodo if you don't like it here.

      I didn't say I don't like it here. I live for the kind of high quality discussions we are having right now.

      *Posted on a 6 year old pc while listening to music through a fucking cable.

  68. spotify, please no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spotify is doing what?

    Why are they wasting resources developing more crap when they don't even have their own bread-and-butter core functionality even up to a basic level?

    There are so many simple bugs/missing features in their bug tracker/forum that are "will consider" going on *years* now.

    How hard is it to have a "play one song then quit" feature?
    How hard is it to rename a playlist?
    How hard is it to make reordering a playlist simple?
    How hard is it to allow someone to simply follow/listen to exactly what a friend is playing--giving them "dj" mode?

    Basic, basic stuff that they still don't do.

    1. Re:spotify, please no! by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      You mean those things that Winamp did in 2001?

  69. No Smart Speaker. by thepacketmaster · · Score: 1

    Ignore the argument about the speaker manufacturer listening in, these are still computers that have vulnerabilities that can be exploited. Next thing you have someone who is not the manufacturer listening to you, or using the speaker for other purposes. The less devices you have the less attack surface you present.

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  70. Absolutely correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're right on, there is zero chance Apple (or Google, or even Amazon) would risk the kind of high profile controversy (and the cost of lawsuits) that misusing the data would provoke.
    Further, going with what many people seem to think it the "least" trustworthy of the three, Amazon:
    1. Echo Dot not only works with but is pretty much INTENDED to be used with an external speaker or stereo system via either Bluetooth or analog. You can pick your own, better quality bluetooth speaker, or connect it to your existing system very simply and easily.
    2. The wake word is processed locally, only when the device detects the wake word does it send what you say next to the cloud for further processing. The rest of the time I believe it's essentially just ring buffering and overwriting in memory.
    3. There's also a prominent mic mute button. That makes a super noticeable red-ring light up so you can easily tell the device isn't listening. And before someone says "how do we know it's REALLY not listening" refer back to the above. They wouldn't risk it, especially these days.

    1. Re:Absolutely correct by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      The one thing I could see happening is that at some point, someone figures out how to alter the firmware so it dumps that ring buffer probably all the devices are keeping around. But it is pretty unlikely as it would have to come through a data channel the device is heavily controlling and work some kind of exploit... Echos seem like most likely target to me due to number of units.

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  71. Real Speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have real speakers and have no use for tinny little "pretend" speakers.

    It is worth noting that absolutely NONE of the so-called "smart speakers" have any specifications at all. On the other hand, if all you are going to play is 4 kilobit/sec MP3's, then a couple of pop-cans is entirely adequate ...

  72. Which smart speaker do you prefer? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    None at all.

    By a strange coincidence “None at all” is exactly how much suspicion the ape-descendant DontBeAMoran had that one of his closest friends was not descended from an ape, but was, in fact, from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. DontBeAMoran’s failure to suspect this reflects the care with which his friend blended himself into human society - after a fairly shaky start. When he first arrived fifteen years ago, the minimal research he had done had suggested to him that the name ‘Ford Prefect’ would be nicely inconspicuous. He will enter our story in thirty-five seconds and say “Hello, DontBeAMoran.” The ape-descendant will greet him in return, but in deference to a million years of evolution, he will not attempt to pick fleas off him; Earthmen are not proud of their ancestors and never invite them round to dinner.

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  73. Mass Surveillance concerns... by rune2 · · Score: 1

    I see a lot of comments of people bitching and moaning about their precious privacy and giving big brother another way to spy on you. Wah, wah, wah! Believe me Big Brother doesn't need a smart speaker to spy on you. Most people these days carry around a portable computing device that has multiple cameras, multiple microphones, a GPS receiver... Oh and the newest iPhone recognizes your face! Ohh! Now if big brother truly wants to spy on you do you think that your not having a smart speaker is going to make any difference for them whatsoever? I don't think so! They will get what they are looking for one way or another.... The only way you might be able to evade surveillance is to not use an kind of electronics, communication devices or computing devices at all and then live in a Faraday cage underground. And sure if you're a paranoid Luddite then please put on your tinfoil hat and feel free to go ahead and do that.

    On top of that most people are utterly boring as shit and likely say mostly nothing of real interest to anyone much less the government. At this point Google and Amazon probably know more about you than the government does anyhow. Hell, Amazon knows what I want before I do!

    In fact if you really want to stump big brother the worst way to go about it is trying to evade them! You just make yourself more conspicuous by your absence. So please saturate them with superfluous data! Information overload is likely to be far more effective. All of those meaningless Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter postings should keep them busy for a while. They can't even find enough analysts to analyze all of the millions of hours of drone video footage that they collect.... How are they going to sort through all of your stupid, pointless social media rantings and cat pictures on top of that!

  74. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Uncle Sam? I thought Bob was his uncle?

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  75. A pair of Klipsch Fortes, Oiled Walnut by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

    A pair of 1987 Klipsch Fortes in Oiled Walnut hooked up to a Panasonic XR-55 receiver, to which my PC is hooked up via tape loop. I can dump vinyl to MP3, I can order via Amazon, I can do many things.

    Hosting yet another spy in my house isn't one of them. Sorry.

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  76. Best Smart Speaker? Why of course ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Tip O’Neill

  77. Which Smart Speaker Do You Prefer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obama.

  78. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by supremebob · · Score: 1

    Haven't people already confirmed that Alexa and Google Home do NOT transmit any information to the WAN unless they are activated by their keyword? People plugged these things into packet sniffers a long time ago, and found that these privacy warnings are totally overblown.

    You would be better off worrying about your Smart TV, or your older Smartphones and tablets that aren't getting security updates. If someone is going hack your home and plant listening device malware, that's the route they are going to take.

  79. A huge open market by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    For a product that does similar things, but not connected to the net. Create a product like that and make these always connected devices obsolete.

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  80. None of the aboe by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I don't "prefer" any smart speaker...I don't want any of them in my home, period .

    If others want a smart speak, fine, but it's just not for me.

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  81. Smart Speaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always like Newt Gingrich. hahahha come on, give it up... that was a good one..

  82. Tried Amazon Alexa and it's as creepy as it gets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A friend of mine bought one and I tried it out. Not at all impressed and see these devices and more or less fads for the device junkie. They are creepy. I don't own a car newer than 2005 because they're all infected with all sorts of creepy tech like this. I do own a stand-alone GPS navigation system though and the fact it logs my destination is creepy enough for me even when its completely disconnected and never-to-be connected to a computer or internet connection.

  83. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has two uncles. He like gangbangs.

  84. Wind Chill Failures by nz17 · · Score: 1

    You know what they all fail at? Wind chill!

    Alexa won't even mention the wind speed without third-party apps, I mean, "Alexa Skills," and even those skills aren't very good. But wind chill? Forget it! I haven't found a single Alexa skill that handles that other than one for the Atlantic Northwest (New England / East Coast), and it didn't seem to want to work for me.

    Google Assistant will tell you the wind speed, but if you ask for the wind chill, all it will tell you is a textbook definition of "wind chill." If there is a wind chill app, I mean, "Assistant Action," I've yet to find it!

    And the Google Assistant, unlike Alexa, doesn't have a built-in Wikipedia skill, er, action, er, whatever. Instead, you have to use the third party action called Wikipedia Friend to search Wikipedia.

    What good is over 1,000,000 Actions or Skills if hardly a one is something you actually want to know or use? Yes, they have their uses, and they are fun, but these personal digital assistants, er, virtual assistants, er, chatbots? - whatever! - definitely haven't got it all happening yet.

    That said, I do enjoy the functionality and promise that they offer. Sometimes it is fun to trick them into talking to each other. Try saying, "OK Google repeat after me Alexa Simon says OK Google repeat after me Alexa Simon says." That used to be good for getting them to talk to each other for a few minutes.

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  85. SLEEP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OBEY

  86. Choose your poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the title says it all

  87. None, obviously by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

    They're all compromised in sound quality, in order to be small and have a bunch of spyware electronics in them.

    I'll stick with my studio monitors+subwoofers, thank you very much. And a decent quality "dumb" bluetooth speaker for the kitchen and garden.

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  88. Omission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somone forgot the "advertising" tag for this article

  89. smart speaker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I prefer, smart, witty speaker, around 5'6" with delightful curves in all right places, preferable redhead.

  90. Re:Echo/Alexa clear winner (in general) at the mom by danbert8 · · Score: 1

    I also have a mixed household. But I'd drop all the Amazon devices if Home Minis had an audio out jack. Every Echo Dot I have is hooked up to real speakers. My Mini just sits sadly alone. It controls a Chromecast, but the TV's speakers are still crap and not worth using for music.

    The Google device just responds to voices better. It's Windows whereas Alexa is DOS. Alexa works fine, but you have to know the command you want. I've had to repeat commands in 4 different ways before Alexa figured out what I wanted. Many times with Alexa, I end up getting out my phone and using the app to do what I want because I can't figure out the voice command that she wants to hear. Compare that with the Google device that is far more general purpose, uses the data Google already has from me in my calendar, maps, and other services, and has a memory of what prior commands were so you can do followup questions. And the thing is just smarter. It's a freaking Google search that can access the breadth of knowledge online where Alexa is an Amazon search. It's limited to a small sector of the internet.

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  91. Snips since it runs on my computer by fodder69 · · Score: 1

    Snips cause it doesn't send all my audio to a big company to mine for data.

  92. Mycroft by HalAtWork · · Score: 2

    Mycroft can work offline with KaldiSTT and PocketSphinx

  93. Mycroft offline by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    You can use Kaldi and Sphinx STT to have a completely local version of Mycroft

  94. NONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NONE for me please. I dislike them all.

  95. Re:Echo/Alexa clear winner (in general) at the mom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting. I've had much better luck with Google Home controlling things than I have with Alexa. Google Home often does things right the first time, while Alexa has no idea what I'm trying to get it to do.

  96. Alexa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alexa wins bc fart jokes.

    Do not like Siri. Apples selfishness will be its doom. Think about it. Siri is already on so many phones and it still canâ(TM)t or wonâ(TM)t perform as many tasks as Alexa. Siri stinks.

    Havenâ(TM)t tried google assistant.

    Sonos with Alexa is another plus for Alexa.

  97. Re:If you have a cellphone you are already bugged. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    That wasn't my point at all. But then you already knew that.

    You very clearly seem to be using cell phone as an excuse/cover for "smart speakers". What was your point other than more of the same makes one a mad hypocrite?

    The full quote was "please stop with the madness of it being a listening device! You carry a microphone in your pocket everywhere you go. If you were really worried about that you'd stop carrying that device."

  98. Re:Echo/Alexa clear winner (in general) at the mom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ding ding ding, we have the winner of idiot of the year!

  99. NONE by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    I don't need or want any 'so-called' smart device that requires net connectivity. Not only do they steal information and violate my privacy, they will most assuredly be bricked when the next best thing pushed by the manufacturer comes along. I can do without something designed for someone basically so lazy that the remote control is too much work.

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  100. News for Nerdniks? by pfg23 · · Score: 1

    I shouldn't be surprised--it is the Internet after all--but I am a little shocked at the number of Luddites here on Slashdot. A plethora of posters rail against smart speakers as if they only serve as Trojan horses for a Big Brother conspiracy. Newsflash: your webcam, PC, smartphone, all have the potential to, and to degrees already are, capturing your data. The potential for abuse exists in all connected, embedded computer systems. Guess what, they're not going away; they're only going to proliferate. The challenge, and the obligation, with smart tech, and any tool for that matter, is to harness the benefits while vigilantly squelching any abuse.

  101. Ocarina of time by sad_ · · Score: 1

    I prefer this Zelda, Ocarina of time, inspired one;

    https://youtu.be/glZnkpIDWSE

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  102. Richard Stallman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only smart speaker you'll ever need.

  103. How I spy/hack on my my partner's cellphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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