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Lead Exposure Kills Hundreds of Thousands of Adults Every Year in the US, Study Finds (theguardian.com)
Bruce66423 shares a report from The Guardian: Last week, a massive new study concluded that lead is 10 times more dangerous than thought, and that past exposure now hastens one in every five U.S. deaths. Researchers at four North American universities, led by Bruce Lanphear, of Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, studied the fate of 14,289 people whose blood had been tested in an official U.S. survey between 1988 and 1994. Four fifths of them had harbored levels of the toxic metal below what has, hitherto, been thought safe. The study found that deaths, especially from cardiovascular disease, increased markedly with exposure, even at the lowest levels. It concluded that lead kills 412,000 people a year -- accounting for 18% of all U.S. mortality, not much less than the 483,000 who perish as a result of smoking. The study has been published in the Lancet Public Health journal.
Especially when fired from a Smith&Wesson.
Might explain why the fucking seppos are so fucking stupid. America, home of the dumbfuck.
From the study:" .... An especially striking and unexpected finding in these studies is that the association between lead and disease is proportionately greater at lower levels of exposureâ"a so-called supralinear dose-response relation. ..."
So what they're basically saying is that homeopathy might be right to a certain degree?
Interesting. Interesting indeed.
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That'a how you fix it, right?
Prepare for lawsuits. Let's start with Big Pencil. Think of the children!
How many people die ONLY because of lead exposure?
How many people die ONLY because of smoking?
How many people die ONLY because of diabetes?
And so on and so forth. I'm more interested in the compound effects of multiple dangerous situations, eg. lead exposure AND smoking and so on.
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Especially for fans of Lead Zeppelin.
Lead may be a trigger in autoimmune disorders such as type 1 diabetes as well.
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People at highest risk from cardiovascular disease are also at risk to exposure to lead. Lead based paint is still prevalent in some inner cities in older housing. Poor people live in this housing and die earlier than middle/upper income people. Poor people have a higher rate of cardiovascular disease. These studies are always so silly.
It's interesting to note the lead has been known to be toxic since at least the time of the ancient greeks. And yet the paint industry used it as its main component for white paint until something like WWII. They used the same tactics that have been later used by Big Tobacco and climate change deniers to delay change by spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt. Particularly paying respected professionals (doctors, etc) to publish and deny toxicity.
How do we know that ? When they were finally convicted, their archives were forced to become public and proved a treasure trove of assholery (or is that assholeness ?) There are several recent books and publications about that (namely in Scientific American)
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From the dates that the blood samples were taken, 1988-1994, I would say that most people at that time had elevated lead levels from breathing all the leaded gas fumes for years previous. The mandate for catalytic converters went through in 1975 but, as I remember, it was into the 80's before all the leaded gas had stopped being available. I would bet that if that sampling were done now the levels would be much lower for most of the people sampled; at least the younger ones who were born after the switch to unleaded gas.
I guess that's the end of my cavalier attitude towards lead-based solder - now that I've been soldering for 50-plus years and still use my lips as a 'third hand' to hold solder sometimes. I know it's elemental lead and therefore less readily absorbed, but still... I've had my blood tested for lead levels a few times, and never had any results that caused my doctor even mild concern. But now that I've read this... It's probably too late for me, but from now on I won't be making any more snarky comments about "politically correct solder".
Lead based solder performs much better than the alternatives, because lead is an 'aggressive' metal. I guess even the elemental form may be similarly aggressive when it comes to biochemical activity. Of course, this also renews my concerns about the mouthful of mercury I have in the form of dental fillings.
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Pewter with lead came in during the Bronze age... where the life expectancy was 26 years. So I'm not clear where you're going with that? They dropped dead like flies.
Mostly ok??? 26 years?
Same with the makeup, white lead face powder was banned because in the 18th century exactly because it was lethal.
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/museums-static/objectretrieval/node/111
"Although this era was known as the Age of Enlightenment, most fashionable men and women poisoned themselves with red and white lead make-up and powder. (Swinfield: p97) The make-up they used caused the eyes to swell and become inflamed, attacked the enamel on the teeth and changed the texture of the skin causing it to blacken, it was also not uncommon to suffer baldness, and for a time it became fashionable to shave the front hairline. It was known that heavy use of lead could cause death. (Baker: p210) "
Yeh, sure the eyes swelled up and they went bald and black and toothless, and some died but the rest were mostly ok??? Really?
In a way, if the Florida students were mostly ok, because only 17 of them were killed. So I guess it's a new way of looking at the world. Deny the obvious and talk down the consequences. Whatever happened to the assault rifle ban.... ah yes the NRA had a chat with Trump. But that's OK, there are a lot of student who haven't been shot yet.
And lead in pipes? Well sure it kills, but my mansion has PVC piping, so I'm fine, so that's OK right?
Here is your villain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.
"played a major role in developing leaded gasoline (Tetraethyllead) and some of the first chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), better known by its brand name Freon"
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You stupid pig fucker.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Must suck if you live in Flint, MI where you still don't have clean drinking water...
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The irony is strong with this AC ...
Fishing weight used to be made of lead... My grandpa would sometimes make some at home, melting the metal on a small gas burner. I remember playing with them quite a bit as a kid, they were exquisitely heady.
Since I don't fish, I don't know what these are made of today ... Still lead?
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...exposing yourself to more lead will not improve your situation...
But I do my best to expose myself every day...at least for a few minutes.
Life causes death in 100% of all known cases of either.
I have life, I have not died. You cannot prove that I will die until I do, so until all life is extinguished we can't say all life causes death.
I don't need the karma whoring, but why not. Here I think, is the actual article in the Lancet by Lanphear et al.
abstract: http://www.thelancet.com/journ...
full text: http://www.thelancet.com/journ...
...or makes you black.
Lead contamination in the environment dated from about the time that tetraethyl lead (TEL) became widely used as a fuel additive in gasoline. Deepwater, NJ across the river from Wilmington, was the site for DuPont's TEL production. Everyone growing up in the post WWII years was, to some degree, poisoned by TEL in gasoline.
The EPA's TEL phasedown didn't begin to be implemented until 1976. Then EPA mandated that lead additive be reduced by 91 percent by the end of 1986. A 1994 study had indicated that the concentration of lead in the blood of the U.S. population had dropped 78% from 1976 to 1991.
Workers in the TEL industry had significant health effects. Those that worked with leaded gasoline were likewise effected. Old gasoline stations facing lead remediation will be a monument to this problem for many years to come.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead
Seriously, either cleaning up or shutting down coal plants is one of the smartest economical things that we did in a while.
Even now, our lead on the ground is a fraction of what it was 10 years ago. As such, our children will have much lower medical costs than what we have today. The rest will be gone over the next 20 years, if not 10.
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yeah, it could not possibly be that the lead in the blood leads to poor health esp in our immune system, which then allows for regular bugs to kill us off. No, not that.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
This is NOT an anti-lead study. It is a pro-death one. They are simply showing how to accelerate the deaths.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Lead is but one of the heavy metals that coal fired plants spew into the environment, in massive amounts. Compared to them, nuclear plants are decidedly clean.
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Could you point us to where your peer reviewed article is published rebutting this research? Because if you can't, you're just talking out your ass with nothing to back those words up.
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Instead I would suggest that "Bad neighborhoods" keep you poor.
Substitute the word "Lead" with "Carrot" and see if it remains the same.
If you test hard enough you can find tiny bits of anything in everything.
There was this guy in my town who died of thought. He was an electrician and he thought he'd pulled the master fuse out.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Along with this, nearly every Martian has killed a human at least once this month. If you now a Martian please ask him to leave the planet at once.
Perhaps we have the cause and effect backwards. Stupid children chew on paint more so than smart ones.
As a kid, I grew up in houses loaded with lead paint. But I didn't lick the walls. I'm now a member of Mensa.
Is the lead poisoning from all of the people shot in the US or being shot by the US military outside the US?
That chronic lead exposure leads (hah!) to an inability to correctly capitalize sentences.
From TFS:
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
The mods must be crazy. You're the second one to get modded-up today for such an uninsightful comment. Sorry but if you've ever *read* a study, the first thing that every author does is try to control for these variables and determine whether or not there is an additional effect. Now one fair criticism is that maybe the effect of lead is *less* than the other factors (I don't know). But there's not a single study out there that doesn't go through the process of controlling for known factors.
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Yes, furthermore I guarantee the arrests they are using are taken from inner city people. Have you ever been arrested? Probably not. But in (some) cities they have mandatory arrests for children. Typically these arrests are from poor(er) inner city people because those are the arrests they can obtain. So they use these arrests. They then make a bunch of connections in their studies that are false. For example the black people commit more crime one. Next, someone will come out with a study that White Americans are more susceptible than anyone else to arrests. The reality is the data is skewed. So stupid, but these arrest studies come out every few years.
"Thus, 14289 (76%) participants were included in this analysis. 1150 (9%) individuals had concentrations of lead in blood below the level of detection and had an amount of 07 g/dL (0034 mol/L) imputed."
So, for 9% of those still alive whose Pb blood level was below the level of detection they "imputed" their Pb level at 0.7 micrograms per deciliter.
"Our findings suggest that, of 23 million deaths every year in the USA, about 400000 are attributable to lead exposure, an estimate that is about ten times larger than the current one."
"suggests"? A British journal citing work by a Canadian research team about children in America and their findings, claiming an influence 10X larger than previous research, are a "suggestion".
The Lancet has taken huge detours into politics in the last few decades and this appears to be another side jaunt. What issue in American politics could they possibly be trying to influence? Obama shut down the last remaining lead mining and processing plant in Missouri in 2013, and by E.O. outlawed importing Lead into the country.
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And yet we still haven't stopped adding lead to aviation gasoline, because it's "too expensive".
And yet nobody is talking about EDTA (especially taken orally and not through IV)?? There is a phase 2 trial ongoing. Results of phase 1 were still pretty fascinating. EDTA has the ability to bind to substances such as Lead and then it is able to be eliminated from the body. Where is our real Artificial Intelligent systems that can do incredibly deep and wide searching of data and begin to truly allow us to make more intelligent decisions on how to reach longevity through optimal choices of lifestyle, foods, medicines,etc. We know lead is bad, so give us dang options to remove it !
Lead dust is as small as 0.1 microns in diameter.
N95 and HEPA respirator filters only block airborne particles at least 0.3 microns in diameter.
The CDC hereby recommends wearing scuba gear for respiratory protection at the firing range.
That peer-reviewed article does show there is a link between poverty and mortality. It says nothing about poverty increasing lead exposure leading to lowered life expectancy. In fact it has nothing to do with TFA whatsoever, except it's also a study involving one factor in life expectancy. It does nothing to refute or invalidate TFA.
They completely destroyed their credibility during the Iraq war. Now everybody is on notice that they put politics above reality and everything they print should be considered a partisan political "factoid" designed for propaganda purposes, rather than a non-political FACT.
How'd they do that? Well, it started when they blamed George Bush for ALL the deaths in that war and after it. All the deaths caused by US actions, all the deaths caused by the troops of Saddam Hussein's forces, all the deaths cause by Sunni terrorists, all the deaths caused by Shia terrorists, all the deaths caused by allies, etc. Apparently, according to the Lancet, Iraq was a paradise before the war where nobody died AND nobody involved in the war or after it was responsible for his/her own actions. That sort of thinking was rejected by the civilized world at the Nuremberg trials post WWII where it was agreed that bad actors do not get to claim innocence for their actions and transfer the blame to a single far-away leader. Even the NAZI defendants at Nuremberg lacked the craziness to blame all casualties on all sides plus all post-war casualties on one person.
The Lancet, a formerly very respectable publication, only went downhill from there. Now they push all the fashoinable left wing political issues, like global warming and gun control.
The lead abatement companies.
> lead exposure doesn't lead to an increased death rate.
Except study after study shows it. Seriously, [cite needed] for your backwards-ass claims.
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This study controlled for those factors and still saw a causative factor. Explain that.
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Go ahead and point to animal toxicity studies. I'll take a 6-year study that actually shows results from humans (with a very large N as well).
I'll dig that.
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