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Eating World's Hottest Pepper Sparks Brain Disorder, Thunderclap Headaches (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Extremely hot peppers don't just blister your mouth and bum -- they can also spark fiery havoc in your brain, according to a report published Monday in BMJ Case Reports. An otherwise healthy 34-year-old man developed a blood-flow disorder in his brain and suffered several debilitating "thunderclap" headaches after entering a hot pepper eating contest, U.S. doctors reported. The man had managed to get down a Carolina Reaper pepper, which in 2013 earned the title of the world's hottest chili by Guinness World Records.

The searing pepper didn't sit well in the chili-eating contestant. Immediately after slaying a Reaper, the man began dry heaving and developed pain in his neck and the back of his skull. That morphed into a diffuse, painful headache. Over the next few days, he experienced thunderclap headaches at least twice -- but likely more, he just couldn't recall exactly. Thunderclap headaches are severe, sudden, with quick pains that strike like a clap of thunder rumbling through your skull. They tend to peak within 60 seconds and can be accompanied by nausea, vomiting, altered mental state, seizures, and fever. Their stormy aches can be a sign of serious problems, like bleeding in the brain, a brain infection, or a cerebrospinal fluid leak. The pain was excruciating enough that the man went to the emergency room. But doctors didn't find any immediate problems with him to explain the episodes. He didn't have any slurred speech, loss of vision, neurological deficits, muscle weakness, or tingling. His blood pressure was a little high, but not extremely so, at 134/69 mmHg. Initial CT scans found no problems in his neck and head.

155 comments

  1. Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    All varieties of pepper are nutrient-rich, and the heat will boost the metabolism a bit helping control weight, provide pain relief, help manage diabetes, and directly fights prostate cancer.

    Don't give up on peppers just because overdoing it can cause harm.

    Just don't overdo it.

    1. Re:Peppers are very good for you by BeauHD+(+6,+Expert) · · Score: 0, Troll

      Here is where I fed my ram a ghost pepper.

      He could not taste the capsashin but was having digestive problems for the next week. It was hilarious.

    2. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Animal abuse, you should be ashamed.

    3. Re:Peppers are very good for you by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Weird, I would have assumed any digestive problems would be associated with the sensitivity to capsashin.

      I assume that's what causes mine after too many peppers.

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    4. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this at -1?

      It's a stupid post about an idiot being an idiot, but to be fair it's on topic, not abusive, not spam or shitposting, and even correctly referenced with a link (made clickable with real HTML no less) to the video.

      I don't expect the moderator will explain themselves, but for others reading it's a good example of why moderating alone doesn't cut the mustard, and meta-moderating is always required.

    5. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PETA put down many animals so I would avoid them.

    6. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Bobrick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      PETA is a -major- animal abuser. Pro tip: you care about animals' rights and well-being, don't support PETA.

    7. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Successful troll is successful.

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    8. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he's an editor. How is the post a troll?

    9. Re:Peppers are very good for you by sad_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      best advice for everything - don't overdo it.
      drinking too much water can kill you.
      doesn't mean we all should suddenly stop drinking water.

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    10. Re:Peppers are very good for you by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All varieties of pepper are nutrient-rich, and the heat will boost the metabolism a bit helping control weight, provide pain relief, help manage diabetes, and directly fights prostate cancer.

      I fully agree.

      Don't give up on peppers just because overdoing it can cause harm.

      Just don't overdo it.

      Pepper mad scientists overdid it about 2 million scoville units ago. It was nice back when the habanero was king, and people still enjoyed the taste of a good pepper.

      Now the pepper world has morphed into the food equivalent of Jackass.

    11. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're being tracked down. People will come visit you soon enough.

    12. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Look at the username more closely, ya moron.

    13. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Gilgaron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't use anything hotter than habeneros, are the ghost peppers and so on useful for recipes where additional less spicy peppers would be detrimental or is it all just a pissing match?

    14. Re:Peppers are very good for you by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      There is a time and a place for everything, ghost peppers' place is to make things spicy with out imparting other flavors onto a dish.

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    15. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BeauHD. An editor, and obviously not a very good one!

    16. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Falconhell · · Score: 2

      If its about laying off of the insanity chillis, Im way ahead of you.

    17. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because the moderator just doesn't believe that the poster account (with no posting history before a few days ago) is actually connected with the video?

      I also think this post is a troll.

    18. Re:Peppers are very good for you by LaminatorX · · Score: 5, Informative

      I like that ghost peppers can be smoked/dried/roasted and still have substantial heat left. I don't use them fresh. Habaneros are about the hottest thing I'll use fresh, and even then I more often go for seranos, as you've got more control.

    19. Re:Peppers are very good for you by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Much like Vanilla Extract or the variety of other extracts. A Ghost Pepper can be used to give heat to a dish, but its small size will not bring pepper flavor to it. Eating raw Ghost peppers, is like eating baking chocolate, or drinking a shot of Vanilla Extract or Vinegar. Unpleasant by itself but used in the right amounts it adds flavor and/or changes the chemical composition of the food to make it palatable.

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    20. Re:Peppers are very good for you by DigitalJanitor · · Score: 1

      Sheep and goats are amazing animals! They'll eat thorns, thistles, poison ivy, tin cans, wood, etc -- without issue. Peppers are not a problem for them.

    21. Re:Peppers are very good for you by mujadaddy · · Score: 2

      Mrs. Renfro's Ghost Pepper Salsa (actually mostly habenero w/ a touch of ghost chile): a spoonful gives a great heat to a whole pot of what-have-you. But on the main topic, I completely agree that nobody wants to taste things anymore.

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    22. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Psion · · Score: 2

      The editor is "BeauHD". The troll is "BeauHD(+6, Expert)". Do you see the difference now?

    23. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not the real BeauHD you jackass.
      BeauHD doesn't have a UID in the 5 millions. Fucking Christ, it says "expert"after his name because the user name he entered was BeauHD (expert). The same troll used to have a user named BeauHD (Editor), I'm guessing they put a stop to that one.

    24. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 2

      It's much the same with any food or drink. If it's something known to be safe for consumption, don't go to extremes with it and you'll be fine.

      If you drink enough water in a short period, it will poison you and you will die. In no way does that mean you should stop drinking water.

      If you're someone who likes sour tastes, don't go creating the ultimate sour taste beyond anything ever seen before and expect it to continue to be just as safe as a lemon.

    25. Re:Peppers are very good for you by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      Some of the hotter ones are fucking delicious, in moderation. Extreme moderation. Rather than deal with the peppers themselves, check out some of the hot sauces from Heatonist. Use them very, very sparingly, and you'll be pleasantly surprised by how good they are. I've lightly dosed a pork roast with some of the hottest ones there and slow roasted it, and it was stunning.

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    26. Re:Peppers are very good for you by The+Relentless · · Score: 1

      That stuff is delicious! Agreed.

    27. Re:Peppers are very good for you by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Ghost pepper has its uses, like making a hot dip from sour cream. Milder (and I use that term loosely) peppers tend to have the heat disappear unless you use so much that the pepper taste overpowers everything else.
      Also, ghost pepper flakes, used sparingly, is excellent for sprinkling on barbecued vegetables and pizza. You get bites that taste hotter than others, which makes for a more interesting meal than when every bite tastes the same. Two flakes per pizza slice is enough.

      Then there's vinegar-free ghost pepper sauce, which is my favorite. One drop stirred into a soft-boiled egg totally transforms it.

    28. Re:Peppers are very good for you by bugs2squash · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's easy to overdo the peppers though. I ate just half a red bell pepper and drank 12 shots of Tequila and I had a terrible pepper headache the next day.

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    29. Re:Peppers are very good for you by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      yeah, dairy has the unfortunate side effect of neutralizing capcaicin -- gotta use it pretty much straight away or else you run into what you described =/

    30. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Stupid eating stunts should not deter people from hot peppers. Love them in Thai food etc.

    31. Re:Peppers are very good for you by quanminoan · · Score: 1

      There are so many underappreciated varieties. Filius Blue peppers are typically grown as an ornamental plant, but mildly hot yet extremely flavorful, perfect for salads.

    32. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Serranos are the sweet spot. Hot enough for most applications, but not so hot that you lose the flavor. As you note, they give you great control. Jalapenos will overwhelm the flavor balance of a dish if you add more for more heat. Habaneros will lose their flavor contribution if you dial them back. Serranos have enough heat that you don't need to throw off the taste profile to increase heat, and enough flavor that you can still taste them if you need to take the heat down a notch or three.

    33. Re:Peppers are very good for you by crunchygranola · · Score: 2

      I am partial to that grand-daddy of hot pepper cuisines - the Tabasco pepper, a cultivar of Capsicum frutescens. Most hot peppers are a different species, Capsicum annuum. The Tabasco pepper, like Tabasco Sauce (the first hot sauce ever marketed), has a nice sharp clean bite, then a quick fade - no lingering burning.

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    34. Re:Peppers are very good for you by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      Except eating baking chocolate won't send you to the hospital.

    35. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and it's so weak that i can barely even taste heat from that overly-vinegar-saturated concoction.

    36. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Mjlner · · Score: 1

      ...except that baking chocolate is pretty tasty if you like dark chocolate.

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    37. Re:Peppers are very good for you by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Every time I read this story I start laughing when I get to the dry heaving part.

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    38. Re:Peppers are very good for you by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Finally...something slashdot knows about: Eating.

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    39. Re:Peppers are very good for you by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Bullshit.
      People EATING Tasty Animals is indeed an animal abuse organ.
      Don't confuse the two.

    40. Re: Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Successful troll is successful."

      Love it :)

    41. Re:Peppers are very good for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some douche posts a link to feeding a goat a chilli, in a story about eating chillis, and you think that's a "troll"?

      God help us all, this place really has gone to the dogs.

    42. Re:Peppers are very good for you by K10W · · Score: 1

      I am partial to that grand-daddy of hot pepper cuisines - the Tabasco pepper, a cultivar of Capsicum frutescens. Most hot peppers are a different species, Capsicum annuum. The Tabasco pepper, like Tabasco Sauce (the first hot sauce ever marketed), has a nice sharp clean bite, then a quick fade - no lingering burning.

      the store stuff is too vinegary for me since started DIY, worth trying if you haven't already. Just chilli and salt mash (2% to 3% salt per chilli weight), I throw in some wine making oak chips in medium and heavy toast to give it oak barrel aged tang. Leave it covered but so gas can escape and minimum 6 months later it is good to go. I tend to ferment it 12months and have all year round as always have batch on the go now oft with kimchi and gochujang. Some add vinegar at the end stage to store but I prefer without and really you only need a lot for extreme shelflife considerations (few years is fine on just salt) thus the store brands have a fair bit. Fwiw I use both fresh and dry superhots but struggle finding a flavour profile I like with them in fermented sauces.

    43. Re:Peppers are very good for you by K10W · · Score: 1

      Much like Vanilla Extract or the variety of other extracts. A Ghost Pepper can be used to give heat to a dish, but its small size will not bring pepper flavor to it. Eating raw Ghost peppers, is like eating baking chocolate, or drinking a shot of Vanilla Extract or Vinegar. Unpleasant by itself but used in the right amounts it adds flavor and/or changes the chemical composition of the food to make it palatable.

      if they are grown right they will give flavour to it I found especially fresh. Both my home grown ones and decent growers with just 1 in a dish that serves 5 imparts a VERY strong flavour as well as moderately high heat. I'd say it adds more flavour than heat tbh thus I use particular superhots depending on flavour needed not just heat strength. Fresh Dorset nagas in particular are very strong in flavour if grown right (if not they lack heat and flavour). The more raisinlike strains tend to be weak flavoured but the hard to describe pungent ones and the fruity varieties should be addign more flavour than heat, if not I'd try getting from another source as I found a few supermarket or massmarket distributed ones have medium heat of what they should and no flavour, I presume they do somethign to make them reach weight quicker that robs them of flavour.

  2. Summary cuts off too early by pots · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The summary is perhaps a little misleading, the paper says in the very next sentence that CT angiography turned up reversible cerebral vasoconstriction syndrome which can cause this kind of headache. Since capsaicin can cause arterial constriction, and this started immediately after eating the pepper, they are tentatively assuming a causal relationship.

    1. Re:Summary cuts off too early by burtosis · · Score: 5, Informative

      Further the guy was fine 5 weeks later as you can see from the photos here. If this was indeed the cause then it would be the first case ever of RVCS induced by capsaicin. The peppers aren't as hot as nearly pure capsaicin extract, which is used as an ingredient in those hot wings you often have to sign a waiver for as well as topical pain relief creams (DO NOT TASTE THESE). I like spicy foods, even extremely spicy foods, but after eating several of those extract laden wings, not only did my hands start burning through the skin (I now know why the chefs wear them), but I suffered pretty severe abdominal pain for 12 hours on top of the usual exit wounds. Not really worth your picture on a wall if you ask me.

    2. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can we made a hot pepper deadly?

      i think science can

      how about (2) tide pods

      challenge accepted, hold my beer

    3. Re:Summary cuts off too early by cstacy · · Score: 3, Funny

      you often have to sign a waiver for as well as topical pain relief creams (DO NOT TASTE THESE).

      Having lived through the Merciless Peppers of Quetzalacatenango grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of a Guatemalan insane asylum, I am ready for the Capsagel Challengem dude!

      Or is it brah? I have trouble remembering things since the Tide Pods last week...Can't even figure out where my condoms have gone.

    4. Re:Summary cuts off too early by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Funny

      on top of the usual exit wounds

      Today you fancy yourself a fire breathing dragon!
      Tomorrow the Rocket Maaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!

    5. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not only did my hands start burning through the skin (I now know why the chefs wear them)

      Hands? Or skin? Removing their own skin should inhibit the problem anyway?

    6. Re:Summary cuts off too early by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Thanks for pointing that out. I was wondering why it said he developed a blood flow issue from the pepper despite not finding any such issues. Before I saw your post I was going to ask about that and question why they used a CT scan when it seems like the sort of thing you'd want to use an MRI (or fMRI) for.

    7. Re:Summary cuts off too early by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Fat fingered the submit button again - them -> gloves. I had no visible breaks in my skin, and have handled peppers just fine without problem. But in this case it actually caused them to tingle with a mild burning sensation. That's why the "chefs" (this stuff really isn't edible by mammals) wear them. Also it's RCVS which I screwed up as well. These posts are clearly not redulting feom long term damage doing something stupid things.

    8. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Rei · · Score: 1

      If you think capsaicin is harsh, try resiniferatoxin. Activates the same receptor as capsaicin, but is 500-1000 times more potent. 16 billion scoville units ;) They call it a toxin for a reason. The threshold between pain symptoms and toxic symptoms in chemicals that activate TRPV1 is high, but not unlimited.

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    9. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Rei · · Score: 2

      To put that into perspective:

        * A half teaspoon of resiniferatoxin mixed into a two-litre bottle of water will make it hotter than the same two litre bottle full of pure capsaicin.
        * A kilogram of bell peppers, soaked in a solution with a single drop of resiniferatoxin, would be rendered as hot as a kilogram of ghost peppers.
        * Six olympic swimming pools of resiniferatoxin could render Lake Erie as hot as a mild pepper, and 30 could make it as hot as a jalapeno. Given that the total synthesis of resiniferatoxin is a solved problem, this actually quite an achievable task.

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    10. Re:Summary cuts off too early by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      You really got to mix units didn't you?
      Empirical Teaspoons to Metric Liter
      Metric Kilogram to a suggestive single drop.
      Olympic swimming pools to a Lake Erie
      What would one TOS USS Enterprise NCC-1701 do to the lava in Mt. Doom?

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    11. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Rei · · Score: 1

      Teaspoons are well defined, 4.92892ml.
      Drop is a unit in pharmacy equivalent to 0,05ml, not a "suggestive single drop"
      An olympic swimming pool with a nominal depth of 2m is 250000l. Lake Erie is 480 cubic kilometers.

      Resiniferatoxin is 1,35g/ml and water is 1g/ml, for where it matters.

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    12. Re:Summary cuts off too early by mujadaddy · · Score: 1

      Wow, "Animal experiments suggest that, in humans, ingestion of 10 g may be fatal or cause serious damage to health.[12] It causes severe burning pain in sub-microgram quantities when ingested orally."

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    13. Re:Summary cuts off too early by burtosis · · Score: 1

      While the math checks out, I'd argue eating pure capsaicin vs resiniferatoxin is like being able to tell the difference between infinity burning sensation and infinity burning sensation times 1000. Id wager they both map to the same soul crushing pain set. That said, I'm not going to put my gastrointestinal tract where my mouth is on this one, I'd like to think I've learned my lesson.

    14. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Rei · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't be surprising. Picture eating three orders of magnitude as much pure capsaicin. I don't think you'd survive that either.

      Capsaicin is for amateurs. ;)

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    15. Re:Summary cuts off too early by rgbatduke · · Score: 1

      It's called "Hunan hands" in the culinary world (probably among other things). The first time I made hot pepper jelly out of good old cayennes I found out the hard way that you should either wear gloves or QUICKLY wash your hands before the juices penetrate your skin.

      The one time I bought ghost pepper sauce a few drops -- drops -- rendered a dish I was trying it in inedible. By anyone except macho types trying to prove that they can love pain. I simply disposed of the bottle and will never go that way again. Peppers should bring flavor with the heat. One can always add heat along with the flavor as there is a wide spectrum to choose from -- high quality paprika for the pepper taste without much heat, cayenne powder for a very similar taste WITH some heat, habeneros (already ALMOST too hot to be useful) and habenero sauces if you want flavor and a lot of heat. "Heat" by itself is a silly thing to add to a dish as it serves no real purpose; heat as a part of natural flavor in a regional cuisine is another thing entirely.

      I cook with peppers very hot or not a lot (sorry:-). Usually I touch the first cut to my tongue when I seed and slice them to assess their heat, and if they are so hot that the single touch makes me sorry, I work fast and wash my hands immediately to get the oils and neurotoxins off. Haven't had hunan hands since that one original episode, although I do keep surgical gloves around for the VERY rare cases (like making hot pepper jelly) where I'm going to be seeding and chopping peppers for more than ten minutes, which seems to be around the time needed for the heat to start to get through and into the skin if they aren't washed.

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    16. Re:Summary cuts off too early by arth1 · · Score: 1

      * A kilogram of bell peppers, soaked in a solution with a single drop of resiniferatoxin, would be rendered as hot as a kilogram of ghost peppers.

      From a cooking perspective, bell peppers are notoriously bad at soaking up other flavors. What kind of solution would make the bell pepper cells permeable, allowing it to soak up the substance, without causing other major taste changes? I'm only asking because I'd love to infuse flavor into otherwise bland peppers.

    17. Re:Summary cuts off too early by epine · · Score: 1

      Since Google search started to handle mixed-unit calculations flawlessly, I just input any unit at hand, and spare my worry for whether I trust the numbers in the numbers in the first place.

      The original reason for avoiding mixed unit calculations was that it was so easy to screw something up handling the conversions manually.

      Now I just cut and paste whatever formula I entered into Google search, so if necessary I can repeat or otherwise verify the calculation later.

      There were actually a couple of weird edge-cases in Google calculator ten years ago (forget what they were, but it was based on a surprising resolution of something that didn't on the surface appear ambiguous). I can't now recall the last time Google's mixed-unit calculator steered me wrong since then.

      Since the calculation carries units all the way through, missing or misplaced parentheses are usually busted in the first instance. (Wait a minute, I wasn't expecting this to come out in kg m / s^3.)

      In fact, for that reason alone, it's so much better than a regular calculator used with entirely consistent mks units.

    18. Re:Summary cuts off too early by plopez · · Score: 1

      Interesting you referred to dragons in your post:
      https://www.livescience.com/59...

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    19. Re:Summary cuts off too early by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really got to mix units didn't you?
      Empirical Teaspoons to Metric Liter
      Metric Kilogram to a suggestive single drop.
      Olympic swimming pools to a Lake Erie
      What would one TOS USS Enterprise NCC-1701 do to the lava in Mt. Doom?

      How many librari of congressi is that?

  3. soylent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm kind of shocked that SoylentNews posted this ars story before Slashdot did. the usual progression is that Ars Technica posts a story, Slashdot posts it a day or two later followed by SN a few days after that

  4. One case... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is hardly evidence. This is speculation, not science.

  5. Re:Here's the thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shill elsewhere you asshat.

  6. Hmm by tylersoze · · Score: 4, Funny

    I pretty sure the brain disorder is wanting to put that shit in your mouth in the first place.

    1. Re:Hmm by adolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Perhaps.

      I grow Carolina Reapers. I do not eat Carolina Reapers.

      Well, I mean, I do eat them: I blend them with a lot of salt and plenty of strong vinegar and freeze them in squeeze-bottles until it is time to consume. The mixture seems to keep indefinitely, once thawed, under normal refrigeration.

      I've also fermented them and done the same sort of thing with them, which produces very different taste.

      The sauce is a crowd pleaser and it is very tasty. But despite being made from the hottest of peppers, I've had it described as being "surprisingly mild." In sauce form, it's easy to use tiny amounts.

      But I don't eat them. I've chopped up tiny slivers of one and put it on a baked potato (with plenty of butter, sour cream, and cheese), many times, and I ate those potatoes, but I don't just -- you know -- eat them as they are.

      Eating these peppers as they are is a really fucking stupid thing to do. Then-girlfriend's much-younger then-high-school-aged brother liked to take them to school with him; I encouraged him not to. He used them as dare material. I feel bad for those poor bastards.

      These fuckers are mean. When I had a surplus of some of these and some other scary-hot peppers one year (more than I could bottle), I tried to give some to the Asian grocery store next door who was always kind to me, just a basket on the counter of peppers for folks to -- you know -- just take for free. "Too hot," they said after a couple of days. "Nobody wants these," they added when they gave them back). A bunch of spicey-food-loving Mexicans that my Dad knows also rejected them ("too hot," they said too)..

      And yes, it's "all in your head," but the body's reaction to what's in your head can be very damaging to said body.

      That all said: I'm lead to wonder if the "thunderclap headaches" in TFA weren't caused directly by the violent retching. The human body is pretty fucking hard on itself when it comes to expelling (what it considers to be) poisons.

    2. Re:Hmm by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The mixture seems to keep indefinitely, once thawed

      So not even bacteria dare to touch it?

    3. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried to give some to the Asian grocery store next door who was always kind to me, just a basket on the counter of peppers for folks to -- you know -- just take for free. "Too hot," they said after a couple of days. "Nobody wants these," they added when they gave them back). A bunch of spicey-food-loving Mexicans that my Dad knows also rejected them ("too hot," they said too)..

      When the people from places who eat spicy food can't eat the pepper, you have to wonder why the hell anybody would bother?

      It reminds me of a bottle of "100% pure CAP" someone I knew had ... it was basically a jar with a eye dropper, inside of another jar ... with warning labels on it which basically said "death awaits you all with nasty pointy teeth". I gather the idea was you would wave the eye dropper somewhere near what you were cooking and allow it to become hot by osmosis, and that a single drop of it would probably dissolve your stomach lining.

      I used to like spicy hot, and then one day I tried something the proprietor called "stupid sauce". My mouth was numb, and the next day I wished my asshole was.

      Then and there I sort of decided that anything beyond banana peppers and jalapenos was just pointless masochism.

      Now I just think of the Simpson's episode with the Guatamalan Insanity Peppers, and think "you people are idiots".

    4. Re:Hmm by pjt33 · · Score: 2

      Then and there I sort of decided that anything beyond banana peppers and jalapenos was just pointless masochism.

      It depends on quantity. A small amount of habanero doesn't contain more capsaicin than a large amount of jalapeño, but it does have a more fruity flavour. Just make sure you don't touch it when you're chopping it up: that really is pointless masochism.

    5. Re:Hmm by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      When I first bite into a jalapeno the sensation is of an incredible sweetness followed by a spicy burn. It's addictive. I love the taste of jalapenos but habaneros are just hot. I can eat them okay but the flavor isn't there for me. I tried ghost pepper, it's just burn and nothing else at all. I'm not doing a reaper, to hell with that.

    6. Re: Hmm by kenh · · Score: 1

      My mouth was numb, and the next day I wished my asshole was.

      Had a good laugh when I read that, thanks!

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  7. Poor Sean Evans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and I guess Chili Klaus

  8. Re:Here's the thing! by tonique · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.

  9. you're usually not cleverer than nature by supernova87a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe we should heed the signals that thousands, if not millions of years of evolution have given some plants/animals the capability to send, and us the benefit of being able to receive?

    1. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      evolution is what allows us to eat them. We have developed the ability to build up tolerances to all sorts of substances, environments and conditions, it is why we still exist on this planet today, chili's actually have a lot of health benefits as well and are pretty tasty. While I don't go the very hot ones myself, habanero is about as hot as I can eat while still being able to enjoy the flavours, others can definitely go hotter.

    2. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      Primates like us are pretty good at eating poison, probably only the rodents do it better. A good example would be chocolate, which is famously poisonous to dogs, but also highly toxic to birds, but any pet owner has surely had to spend time figuring out which table scraps to have to keep away from their pets. The spiceyness in peppers is to discourage mammals from eating the peppers, but they aren't poisonous. Humans eat them for novelty, and birds can't taste the capsaicin, the latter of which probably help disperse seeds (also why berries that are toxic to humans are generally harmless to birds).

    3. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Maybe we should heed the signals that thousands, if not millions of years of evolution have given some plants/animals the capability to send, and us the benefit of being able to receive?

      The message is "I don't want you to eat me" and it has been received loud and clear. The response is "nom nom nom".

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    4. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by budgenator · · Score: 2

      I've heard that birds lack a digestive enzyme that breaks down the seed casings, so any that aren't ground up in the gizzard pass through fertile. Birds also seem to defecate on flat surfaces like bare ground or your car. This tends to grow the plants the birds like to eat near where the roost, and is why the lack of the enzyme is beneficial. Mammals both have the enzyme and feel the heat.

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    5. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      Anecdotally I have seen this with raspberries: less relevantly, the birds love them and you have to pick them very regularly or they get discovered and the birds tell their friends about them and are harder to beat to the ripe ones. More on topic, you will end up with more raspberry plants under wherever the birds like to congregate, which being adjacent to fences or under trees also tend to be places the plants like. It is good until you get other berry plants birds like, such as poison ivy, intermingled with your raspberries and have to try to figure out how to get rid of the former without destroying the latter. I recommend a disposable tyvek coverall.

    6. Re:you're usually not cleverer than nature by Rei · · Score: 1

      Wild blueberries (okay, bilberries) grow abundantly here and when they're in season on my land, there's often purple bird droppings full of seeds scattered all over everything that's left outside.

      Nutritious fleshy fruits evolved for a reason...

      Some plants even appear to have evolved "cheats" in their fruits. For example, there's a number of fruits that contain non-calorific chemicals that are many times sweeter than sugar; some of them are currently being incorporated into commercial products, while others are still only known in the wild. The theory is that this is part of an arms race with mammals, in that the plants can make the non-nutritious sweetener far cheaper than an equivalent amount of sugar, but eventually mammals evolve a resistance to non-caloric sweeteners in order to ensure that they're actually getting their needed calories in their food. I imagine that you get the same sort of thing with plants evolving gelling agents to make "creamy" flesh in their fruits that tastes fatty without actually being fatty.

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  10. Darwin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets eat slugs and the worlds hottest pepper, then go on disability so tax payers can the bills of stupidity. Sound harsh saying it, i feel harsh saying it. Now lets upload all your info to a free social service expect it to be public, expect them to sell it and expect false promises to protect it

    1. Re:Darwin by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Lets eat slugs and the worlds hottest pepper, then go on disability so tax payers can the bills of stupidity.

      Or put him in a Matrix, and use the power he generates to mine cryptocurrency to pay down the public debt.

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    2. Re:Darwin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sometimes eat my own feces.

    3. Re:Darwin by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Can we add all those idiots that insist in jumping out of fully functioning planes or strapping themselves underneath cloth contraptions to fly around in the air without any good reason? And of course the imbeciles that climb up mountains despite there being nothing on top they want to get.

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    4. Re:Darwin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I subscribe to your newsletter?

  11. Re:Here's the thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He is wrong. Take methylmercury for eg. Basically you touch it, your dead.

    Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.

    Well, for both of those examples, that wouldn't exactly be using it properly, now would it?

  12. Blisters? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    I have had lots of hot peppers, but they have NEVER caused me blisters. Is this just a metaphor?

    1. Re:Blisters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it is possible. different people react different ways and is really just a skin reaction to the chemical substances, similar to a poison Ivy reaction.

    2. Re:Blisters? by thomst · · Score: 1

      freeze128 wondered:

      I have had lots of hot peppers, but they have NEVER caused me blisters. Is this just a metaphor?

      You may have had lots of jalapenos, but Carolina Reapers are a completely different level of hot. Like 900 times hotter than jalapenos.

      And, yes, people who are particularly sensitive to capsacin can and do develop contact dermatitis from eating Carolina Reapers ...

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    3. Re:Blisters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find the claim highly dubious as well.

    4. Re:Blisters? by careysub · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, the stuff about hot peppers literally causing physical lesions as if they were thermally hot is folklore. Capsaicin stimulates nerves via the TRPV1 receptor that also responds to heat, and so gives the sensation of burning. It causes no physical changes directly.

      As another poster here has noted rare idiosyncratic rashes can occur, but lots of things can cause rashes in some people, it is really an immune system abnormality in the victim.

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    5. Re:Blisters? by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      I've never had blisters, but have had red, irritated skin after chopping a large number of habeneros for canning recipes. If you've gotten the juice in your eye while chopping you'd not doubt that a sufficiently concentrated dose could result in blisters.

    6. Re:Blisters? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      It's probably not the capsicum that causes the blisters as much as the skins reaction to it.

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    7. Re: Blisters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. It's very similar to fire in that regard. It's not fire itself that causes your skin to blister and melt off, but the skin's reaction to fire.

      You can easily see this by throwing a terminator into a fire. The terminator's skin will react my melting off, but you will notice the fire has basically no effect on the metal endoskeleton.

    8. Re:Blisters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could also be a result if scratching/rubbing the area that feels like it's on fire.

  13. Well, I eat some pretty hot stuff by cdsparrow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most days. I have become a big fan of reaper powder sprinkled on stuff. In my experience, the peppers will usually make my headaches (even migraines) go away better than any medicine I've tried, so ymmv...

  14. Re: Here's the thing! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    The Apple approach is not very useful, though.

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  15. Grandma was right... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when she threw out my music collection.

    Red Hot Chili Peppers do rot your brain!

    1. Re:Grandma was right... by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Could be worse, my mom took a copy of Blood Sugar Sex Magic that I had borrowed from a friend. He got it back in the end, but it was very embarrassing.

  16. offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "134/69 mmHg"

    I hate this unit of measure so much.
    Millimeters don't make it any better.

    Oh, was I supposed to say something relevant to the story here?
    So, as it turns out, things that taste really really agonizingly bad probably aren't good for you. More news at 11.

    1. Re:offtopic by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      A mercury sphygmomanometer does not need calibration (unless you've found somewhere that the variation in gravity is larger than the error of human measurement) or electricity, and mercury has a fairly low coefficient of expansion. mm Hg is a unit well suited to its most common function: measuring blood pressure. And it's what all the literature uses. You want it in kPa? Knock yourself out, but don't expect the medical world to come along.

      I have one that I bought off eBay on a lark. I work with automated BP machines all day, and they are decent at spotting trends... so long as the patient doesn't have tremors, and the machine is calibrated on a regular basis, and nobody has put the wrong cuff size on the patient. But if you want to know, there's nothing better than good old mercury. Just leave it in its (mostly) sealed tube.

  17. sad foe this dude by strstr · · Score: 0

    all they did for him was bill his insurance at the ER. they literally only gave him a fucking CT scan which isn't good for detecting brain disorders or any type of injury besides broken blood vessels that result in stroke or broken bones.

    an fMRI and HD Fiber Tracking scan can detect actual damage and abnormal brain function. they could auto diagnose his issue but they didn't have the tools at the hospital he went to.

    1. Re: sad foe this dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too many doctors believe CT or MRI to be the be-all and end-all of diagnosis, magic that can see everything, if its not on the scan, it doesn't exist.

  18. Re:Here's the thing! by plumwhite23091 · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the information! I still think of the word 'properly'. Maybe he meant the proper amount that a substance could affect us.

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  19. stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It eludes me how people think they can just eat all sorts of crap or risiculous quantities and NOT have a problem. Are you so ignorant of your own body?

  20. You can die by drinking too much water. by xxxLCxxx · · Score: 1

    You can die by drinking too much water. Still, not that scary.

  21. Doctor's orders by LostMonk · · Score: 5, Funny

    PATIENT: It hurts when I do that.

    DOCTOR: Stop doing that!

    1. Re:Doctor's orders by brxndxn · · Score: 1

      COPAY: $75

      INVOICE: Insurance paid $35, insurance mark-down $300

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  22. Re:Here's the thing! by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In some cases, "proper amount" means homeopathatic medicine. I.e. not even an atom of the substance. Also known as placebo medication.

    Powerful stuff.

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  23. Syria by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps we should be dropping these on Assad instead of bombs?

    1. Re:Syria by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Chemical warfare is bad enough, please don't escalate to biological.

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  24. I don't follow the logic by skovnymfe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guy eats neurotoxins. Guy gets brain damage. Somehow I don't see the connection here. Can someone point it out for me? OH WAIT SO HE IS EATING NEUROTOXINS AND HE GETS BRAIN DAMAGE? Well who would'a fucking thunk that could happen?

    1. Re:I don't follow the logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First, capsaicin is not a neurotoxin. Second, he did not get brain damage, only very painful headaches that have since went away. Other than that, you're spot on :)

    2. Re:I don't follow the logic by skovnymfe · · Score: 1

      Let's define neurotoxin.

      Neurotoxins are toxins that are poisonous or destructive to nerve tissue (causing neurotoxicity).[3]

      In biology, poisons are substances that cause disturbances in organisms, usually by chemical reaction or other activity on the molecular scale, when an organism absorbs a sufficient quantity.[1][2]

      Neurotoxicity is a form of toxicity in which a biological, chemical, or physical agent produces an adverse effect on the structure or function of the central and/or peripheral nervous system.[1]

      What is capsaicin then?

      The burning and painful sensations associated with capsaicin result from its chemical interaction with sensory neurons. Capsaicin, as a member of the vanilloid family, binds to a receptor called the vanilloid receptor subtype 1 (TRPV1).[52] First cloned in 1997, TRPV1 is an ion channel-type receptor.[53] TRPV1, which can also be stimulated with heat, protons and physical abrasion, permits cations to pass through the cell membrane when activated. The resulting depolarization of the neuron stimulates it to signal the brain. By binding to the TRPV1 receptor, the capsaicin molecule produces similar sensations to those of excessive heat or abrasive damage, explaining why the spiciness of capsaicin is described as a burning sensation.

      It depolarizes your neurons and causes all kinds of effects on your nervous system. That covers both poison and neurotoxicity.

      Here's a paper titled "Neurotoxic effect of capsaicin in mammals" - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...

      And here's one titled "Capsaicininduced neuronal degeneration in the brain and retina of preweanling rats" - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.co...

      So if it looks like a neurotoxin, smells like a neurotoxin and acts like a neurotoxin, maybe it's a neurotoxin? And if he didn't get brain damage from eating it, the brain damage must have occurred prior to eating, because brain damaged he is. What sane person willingly consumes high quantities of neurotoxins as a sport?

  25. A study of one person? by Daralantan · · Score: 1

    I had assumed we would be given some kind of study of several people. This just talks about a single guy having a bad week around 5 years ago. Has this happened to several others? I'm fairly certain he isn't the only person to ever eat this pepper.

    1. Re:A study of one person? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      You're right.

      Here, eat this. For science.

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    2. Re:A study of one person? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read TFA. It's a CASE REPORT...

    3. Re:A study of one person? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Yeah I'm thinking it's pretty hard to get test subjects to eat peppers with military weapons grade capsaicin in them. It would also be pretty obvious to figure out who were the test subject and who were the placebo subjects.

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    4. Re:A study of one person? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Military weapons grade capsaicin"? Let me guess... The Mexican Army?

  26. Delikatessen News For Nerds by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    If if it doesn't matter, it's hot!

  27. Dosage makes the thing a poison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Are we surprised that everything will be a poison if the dosage is high enough?

    Even water is poisoning the body when using too much.

  28. Just like Homer Simpsons by victorsosa · · Score: 1

    Just like Homer Simpsons in the episose 162 El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:Just like Homer Simpsons by careysub · · Score: 1

      One of my favorites. I would love to have Groening drawn "space coyote" sketch.

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  29. So the takeaway here is by be951 · · Score: 1

    DO fear the reaper?

  30. Play stupid games... by neo-mkrey · · Score: 2

    ...win stupid prizes.

  31. Stupid hot by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Isn't fun or enjoying food But you eat what ya want, but sweating, running to get water/milk whatever and hopping around isn't my idea of fun eating.But if you want to make a fools of yourself..go for it lol.A little pepper is just fine for me.

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    1. Re:Stupid hot by Wulf2k · · Score: 1

      It's all about how much tolerance to the heat you've developed.

      Grab any random person off the street and feed them a jalapeno and they'll probably have a pretty bad time, and only remember the burn. Have that same person eat spicy food for a few months and they'll probably enjoy snacking on jalapenos for the flavour.

      Same with the superhots. Well, probably not snacking on them directly, but maybe mix them into a meal. But biting into a superhot directly would be a vastly different experience for somebody that had developed a high tolerance vs somebody without.

    2. Re:Stupid hot by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      And that's your opinion that doesn't change mine. Ive had enough friends say just what you say and i sit their laughing as they sweat, make faces and say oh it doesn't affect ,me at All...hahahahha sureeeeeee it doesn't.You people want to make a fool of yourselfs i am more then willing to laugh ...were both having fun right..

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  32. In other news.... by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 0

    Global Warming caused by the decline in Pirates of the Caribbean. For centuries, pirates trolled the waters of the Atlantic (and even Pacific) Ocean keeping Global Warming at bay by converting Wind Energy to boat movement. This resulted in pulling "heat" out of the atmosphere and thereby reducing Global Warming and preventing the earth from getting too hot! Here is the evidence: https://www.google.com/search?...:

  33. Darwin Awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More people should eat more of these.

  34. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  35. Re:Here's the thing! by plopez · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't reccoment this one to anyone in any amount https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  36. Oh! Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should have a broken glass and rusty nail eating contest too! I wonder who would be the world record holder in the rat-poison chugging event? (The late, great philosopher George Carlin referred to something similar as passive eugenics.)

  37. Confirmation Bias rears its ugly head again by kriston · · Score: 1

    It looks like Confirmation Bias has reared its ugly head again.

    This is an anecdotal, one-time occurrence which has no scientific meaning.

    This is likely an allergy this guy has, but unless and until the scientific method is applied, e.g. having a double-blind placebo-controlled study done, the idea that hot peppers can cause brain injury is completely meaningless.

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  38. You have to admire by DougDot · · Score: 1

    ... how ingenious humans are at finding new ways to prove Darwin's theories.

  39. sola dosis facit venenum by Jodka · · Score: 1

    Don't give up on peppers just because overdoing it can cause harm. Just don't overdo it.

    "The dose makes the poison"
            - - Paracelsus (aka Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim)

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  40. Recipe? by Jodka · · Score: 1

    I blend them with a lot of salt and plenty of strong vinegar and freeze them in squeeze-bottles until it is time to consume. ... The sauce is a crowd pleaser and it is very tasty.

    Sounds fantastic. Can you please give us the recipe, or at least approximate proportions?

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    1. Re: Recipe? by adolf · · Score: 1

      Trim woody bits from peppers. Throw in blender. Puree. Add enough vinegar that it smooths out. Add more salt than you think you should, and then put more in. A touch of olive oil can be fun, too, which changes the texture a bit.

      That's all. Just peppers, vinegar, and salt. A tiny bit sorks fine when it comes to consumption.

      1 pound of peppers produces a bit less than a quart.

      Keep refrigerated or you might get botulism and die in one of the shittier wayz imaginable.

    2. Re:Recipe? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      I've never done it, so I can't give you the ratios, but one important thing I've noticed from stories of those who have: do NOT do this indoors. Your house may be nigh-uninhabitable for a surprisingly large amount of time.

    3. Re: Recipe? by Jodka · · Score: 1

      Awesome, thanks much. Will be planting peppers here ASAP then.

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  41. Doing too much of something is bad for you by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Whodathunk it? Now excuse me, I'm off to have some nice refreshing water.

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  42. doctors didn't find any immediate problems with h by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    Sounds like it was all in his head. Ba-dum-dum.

  43. Given that it's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Essentially a chemical weapon and nerve agent... Big shock that it can cause headaches and other side effects.

  44. The study also forgot... by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

    ...that it gives you a rectal disorder: A Ring of Fire.

  45. Re:Here's the thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.

    all the labs I've worked in don't use latex becasue is permeable to many compounds so you'd be fine these days. In the case of really nasty these days you'd likely be wearing worker style gloves not lab ones which are even thicker and mixed compounds tailored to the stuff being worked.

  46. Super Sauce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred."

  47. Uh oh by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    The practice of eating spicy foods is correlated with a long life ... but I'm afraid that in moderation this might MODERATELY impair my brain :(

    "Correlation does not prove causation" ... no, but I'm not going to wait around for 4 stage clinical trials to accept that Carolina Reapers are hazardous to people !