Eating World's Hottest Pepper Sparks Brain Disorder, Thunderclap Headaches (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Extremely hot peppers don't just blister your mouth and bum -- they can also spark fiery havoc in your brain, according to a report published Monday in BMJ Case Reports. An otherwise healthy 34-year-old man developed a blood-flow disorder in his brain and suffered several debilitating "thunderclap" headaches after entering a hot pepper eating contest, U.S. doctors reported. The man had managed to get down a Carolina Reaper pepper, which in 2013 earned the title of the world's hottest chili by Guinness World Records.
The searing pepper didn't sit well in the chili-eating contestant. Immediately after slaying a Reaper, the man began dry heaving and developed pain in his neck and the back of his skull. That morphed into a diffuse, painful headache. Over the next few days, he experienced thunderclap headaches at least twice -- but likely more, he just couldn't recall exactly. Thunderclap headaches are severe, sudden, with quick pains that strike like a clap of thunder rumbling through your skull. They tend to peak within 60 seconds and can be accompanied by nausea, vomiting, altered mental state, seizures, and fever. Their stormy aches can be a sign of serious problems, like bleeding in the brain, a brain infection, or a cerebrospinal fluid leak. The pain was excruciating enough that the man went to the emergency room. But doctors didn't find any immediate problems with him to explain the episodes. He didn't have any slurred speech, loss of vision, neurological deficits, muscle weakness, or tingling. His blood pressure was a little high, but not extremely so, at 134/69 mmHg. Initial CT scans found no problems in his neck and head.
The searing pepper didn't sit well in the chili-eating contestant. Immediately after slaying a Reaper, the man began dry heaving and developed pain in his neck and the back of his skull. That morphed into a diffuse, painful headache. Over the next few days, he experienced thunderclap headaches at least twice -- but likely more, he just couldn't recall exactly. Thunderclap headaches are severe, sudden, with quick pains that strike like a clap of thunder rumbling through your skull. They tend to peak within 60 seconds and can be accompanied by nausea, vomiting, altered mental state, seizures, and fever. Their stormy aches can be a sign of serious problems, like bleeding in the brain, a brain infection, or a cerebrospinal fluid leak. The pain was excruciating enough that the man went to the emergency room. But doctors didn't find any immediate problems with him to explain the episodes. He didn't have any slurred speech, loss of vision, neurological deficits, muscle weakness, or tingling. His blood pressure was a little high, but not extremely so, at 134/69 mmHg. Initial CT scans found no problems in his neck and head.
All varieties of pepper are nutrient-rich, and the heat will boost the metabolism a bit helping control weight, provide pain relief, help manage diabetes, and directly fights prostate cancer.
Don't give up on peppers just because overdoing it can cause harm.
Just don't overdo it.
The summary is perhaps a little misleading, the paper says in the very next sentence that CT angiography turned up reversible cerebral vasoconstriction syndrome which can cause this kind of headache. Since capsaicin can cause arterial constriction, and this started immediately after eating the pepper, they are tentatively assuming a causal relationship.
I'm kind of shocked that SoylentNews posted this ars story before Slashdot did. the usual progression is that Ars Technica posts a story, Slashdot posts it a day or two later followed by SN a few days after that
is hardly evidence. This is speculation, not science.
Shill elsewhere you asshat.
I pretty sure the brain disorder is wanting to put that shit in your mouth in the first place.
and I guess Chili Klaus
Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.
Maybe we should heed the signals that thousands, if not millions of years of evolution have given some plants/animals the capability to send, and us the benefit of being able to receive?
Lets eat slugs and the worlds hottest pepper, then go on disability so tax payers can the bills of stupidity. Sound harsh saying it, i feel harsh saying it. Now lets upload all your info to a free social service expect it to be public, expect them to sell it and expect false promises to protect it
He is wrong. Take methylmercury for eg. Basically you touch it, your dead.
Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.
Well, for both of those examples, that wouldn't exactly be using it properly, now would it?
I have had lots of hot peppers, but they have NEVER caused me blisters. Is this just a metaphor?
Most days. I have become a big fan of reaper powder sprinkled on stuff. In my experience, the peppers will usually make my headaches (even migraines) go away better than any medicine I've tried, so ymmv...
The Apple approach is not very useful, though.
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...when she threw out my music collection.
Red Hot Chili Peppers do rot your brain!
"134/69 mmHg"
I hate this unit of measure so much.
Millimeters don't make it any better.
Oh, was I supposed to say something relevant to the story here?
So, as it turns out, things that taste really really agonizingly bad probably aren't good for you. More news at 11.
all they did for him was bill his insurance at the ER. they literally only gave him a fucking CT scan which isn't good for detecting brain disorders or any type of injury besides broken blood vessels that result in stroke or broken bones.
an fMRI and HD Fiber Tracking scan can detect actual damage and abnormal brain function. they could auto diagnose his issue but they didn't have the tools at the hospital he went to.
Thanks for the information! I still think of the word 'properly'. Maybe he meant the proper amount that a substance could affect us.
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It eludes me how people think they can just eat all sorts of crap or risiculous quantities and NOT have a problem. Are you so ignorant of your own body?
You can die by drinking too much water. Still, not that scary.
PATIENT: It hurts when I do that.
DOCTOR: Stop doing that!
In some cases, "proper amount" means homeopathatic medicine. I.e. not even an atom of the substance. Also known as placebo medication.
Powerful stuff.
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
Perhaps we should be dropping these on Assad instead of bombs?
Guy eats neurotoxins. Guy gets brain damage. Somehow I don't see the connection here. Can someone point it out for me? OH WAIT SO HE IS EATING NEUROTOXINS AND HE GETS BRAIN DAMAGE? Well who would'a fucking thunk that could happen?
I had assumed we would be given some kind of study of several people. This just talks about a single guy having a bad week around 5 years ago. Has this happened to several others? I'm fairly certain he isn't the only person to ever eat this pepper.
If if it doesn't matter, it's hot!
Are we surprised that everything will be a poison if the dosage is high enough?
Even water is poisoning the body when using too much.
Just like Homer Simpsons in the episose 162 El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
DO fear the reaper?
...win stupid prizes.
Isn't fun or enjoying food But you eat what ya want, but sweating, running to get water/milk whatever and hopping around isn't my idea of fun eating.But if you want to make a fools of yourself..go for it lol.A little pepper is just fine for me.
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More people should eat more of these.
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I wouldn't reccoment this one to anyone in any amount https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
They should have a broken glass and rusty nail eating contest too! I wonder who would be the world record holder in the rat-poison chugging event? (The late, great philosopher George Carlin referred to something similar as passive eugenics.)
It looks like Confirmation Bias has reared its ugly head again.
This is an anecdotal, one-time occurrence which has no scientific meaning.
This is likely an allergy this guy has, but unless and until the scientific method is applied, e.g. having a double-blind placebo-controlled study done, the idea that hot peppers can cause brain injury is completely meaningless.
Kriston
Don't give up on peppers just because overdoing it can cause harm. Just don't overdo it.
"The dose makes the poison"
- - Paracelsus (aka Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim)
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
I blend them with a lot of salt and plenty of strong vinegar and freeze them in squeeze-bottles until it is time to consume. ... The sauce is a crowd pleaser and it is very tasty.
Sounds fantastic. Can you please give us the recipe, or at least approximate proportions?
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Whodathunk it? Now excuse me, I'm off to have some nice refreshing water.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Sounds like it was all in his head. Ba-dum-dum.
Essentially a chemical weapon and nerve agent... Big shock that it can cause headaches and other side effects.
...that it gives you a rectal disorder: A Ring of Fire.
Or dimethylmercury. If you get one drop on your lab gloves, you're going to die in six months and be convulsing the final months without functioning brain.
all the labs I've worked in don't use latex becasue is permeable to many compounds so you'd be fine these days. In the case of really nasty these days you'd likely be wearing worker style gloves not lab ones which are even thicker and mixed compounds tailored to the stuff being worked.
"You knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred."
The practice of eating spicy foods is correlated with a long life ... but I'm afraid that in moderation this might MODERATELY impair my brain :(
... no, but I'm not going to wait around for 4 stage clinical trials to accept that Carolina Reapers are hazardous to people !
"Correlation does not prove causation"