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Is Cockroach Milk the Ultimate Superfood? (globalnews.ca)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Global News: It may not be everyone's cup of milk, but for years now, some researchers believe insect milk, like cockroach milk, could be the next big dairy alternative. A report in 2016 found Pacific Beetle cockroaches specifically created nutrient-filled milk crystals that could also benefit humans, the Hindustan Times reports. Others report producing cockroach milk isn't easy, either -- it takes 1,000 cockroaches to make 100 grams of milk, Inverse reports, and other options could include a cockroach milk pill. And although it has been two years since the study, some people are still hopeful. Insect milk, or entomilk, is already being used and consumed by Cape Town-based company Gourmet Grubb, IOL reports.
Jarrod Goldin, [president of Entomo Farms which launched in 2014], got interested in the insect market after the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nation in 2013 announced people around the world were consuming more than 1,900 insects. As his brothers were already farming insects for fishing and reptile use, Goldin thought it would be a smart business opportunity to focus on food. Goldin adds studies have shown cricket powder can be a high source of protein and B12. The PC version his company produces has 13 grams of protein per every 2 1/2 tbsps. Toronto-based registered dietitian Andy De Santis says for protein alternatives, insects are definitely in the playing field. According to ScienceAlert, Diploptera punctate is the only known cockroach to give birth to live young and has been shown to pump out a type of "milk" containing protein crystals to feed its babies. "The fact that an insect produces milk is pretty fascinating -- but what fascinated researchers is the fact that a single one of these protein crystals contains more than three times the amount of energy found in an equivalent amount of buffalo milk (which is also higher in calories than regular cow's milk)."
Researchers are now working to replicate the crystals in the lab. They are working with yeast to produce the crystal in much larger quantities -- "making it slightly more efficient than extracting crystals from cockroach's guts," reports ScienceAlert.
Jarrod Goldin, [president of Entomo Farms which launched in 2014], got interested in the insect market after the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nation in 2013 announced people around the world were consuming more than 1,900 insects. As his brothers were already farming insects for fishing and reptile use, Goldin thought it would be a smart business opportunity to focus on food. Goldin adds studies have shown cricket powder can be a high source of protein and B12. The PC version his company produces has 13 grams of protein per every 2 1/2 tbsps. Toronto-based registered dietitian Andy De Santis says for protein alternatives, insects are definitely in the playing field. According to ScienceAlert, Diploptera punctate is the only known cockroach to give birth to live young and has been shown to pump out a type of "milk" containing protein crystals to feed its babies. "The fact that an insect produces milk is pretty fascinating -- but what fascinated researchers is the fact that a single one of these protein crystals contains more than three times the amount of energy found in an equivalent amount of buffalo milk (which is also higher in calories than regular cow's milk)."
Researchers are now working to replicate the crystals in the lab. They are working with yeast to produce the crystal in much larger quantities -- "making it slightly more efficient than extracting crystals from cockroach's guts," reports ScienceAlert.
Also, this has a massive freaking stigma to overcome.
Does it come with vitamin R?
Book of Leviticus, Deuteronomy and other good books set out in easy to understand terms what is acceptable for humans.
ie But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
D or M?
How many cockroaches are needed for a grande latte?
cockroach is insect and have six feets so is ok by jesus people bible book
Get over it, powdered crickets are here to stay. Humans carbon footprints must be eliminated. By the end of this generation everybody will have an insect diet after they get over the psychological barriers.
-=BeauHD=-
The PC version his company produces has 13 grams of protein per every 2 1/2 tbsps.
But what about the Mac version??
According to every metastudy I've ever seen on the subject, while nutrition is important - as long as you're getting a minimum of basic staple foods, and not too much of some things - then you're generally at optimal diet.
Bodies cope with what they get, as long as they start off healthy. Get some organ damage, and yeah - low sodium diet becomes important. The body just gets stupid when it gets too much and runs out of place for something, like fat soluble vitamins or metals, and for some folks, sugars.
"Super foods" are a nice concept - but they almost never have a payoff worth the cost. The closest to a decent return are the simpler ones - oats, veggies, fruits, berries (take your pick) - but the fashionable over-specific ones tend to be single-study hype train events. Other effects end up largely negligible when looked into - for instance diet-based anti-oxidents don't tend to translate to preventing cell damage to a very large extent, other than taking the place of other foods.
Seeking general happiness and quality of life are "healthier" than trying to pick the perfect food.
But, I suppose if eating cockroach extract makes you happy - then cool for you. Just... mention what it is to folks BEFORE you offer it to anyone. And don't don't be terribly offended if people roll their eyes or just walk away when you explain that it is "cruelty free cockroach milk."
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Sounds harder than getting titanite slabs in Dark Souls to level all your armor... No thanks.
Not only you can't put a bucket under a cockroach, you would also need very tiny hands.
It may not be everyone's cup of milk
Is it ANYONE'S cup of milk?
And how the heck do you milk a cockroach?
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has 13 grams of protein per every 2 1/2 tbsps
It's 37ml. 13 grams per 37 ml.
Who the fuck writes units in a sentence like this? Jesus.
No, not literally Jesus
Anyone keeping a list on all the things that this guy will be wrong about?
is getting the bucket to fit under them.
I just don't see the point here. There's already a bunch of plant-based alternatives that don't involved roaches (rice, soy, almond, quinoa, coconut, ect.). I like dairy products (and meat and eggs), and I get why there's this push to find alternatives, but this is a solved problem. As far as I can tell, the real issue here is the idea that things just have to involve something non-vegan.
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Someone, get the weed away from the Indian scientists...
Dudes, I mean,,, it's a COCKROACH!!!
They must be in serious need of some pork rinds for munchies.
You can milk anything with nipples other than robert De Niro
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
So, we have a "food" produced by insects that humans have not consumed until now. Since humans have never eaten it before, it may or may not be fully suitable for human needs. It does, however, have a high concentration of some specific nutrients that humans need.
But actually harvesting the food from insects is difficult so they want to engineer yeast to produce it.
So, if you need to create an artificial "bio factory" to create the substance, why not skip the cockroach step and engineer the yeast to produce a substance that either we know is useful for humans because humans already eat it, or a substance designed to be useful to humans?
Or is genetic engineering just not that sophisticated yet and the best we can do is cut and paste a DNA sequence from cockroaches and hope it does it the same thing in yeast?
Milk in this context does NOT mean what you think it does.
They are not talking about something for your decafe latte
Rat meat may be a delicacy in some parts of the world but I have zero desire to partake of that particular feast.
Can you imagine trying to get between their back legs to milk them? And for sure you'd keep losing the bucket.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
Pretty sure Tritip is the real superfood
Last few times I was in Asia I noted more and more street stalls selling bugs prepared various different ways. I am sure it is healthy but I am a long way from trying it.
If I were introducing such a product for state-side consumption I wouldn't present the whole animal like they do. It would have to be processed some way so as to emulate either a protein shake or maybe a cracker sandwich.
Given the economics I wouldn't be surprised to see such things here in the not too distant future.
Heading to the patent office to get a jump on the itsy-bitsy teeny-weenie milking machines that will be required by the trillions on the industrial scale cockroach farms......
Donald Trump, on a crusade to make Nixon look respectable
The problem with superfoods is that you can get the same "effect" by eating OHTER foods that you may actually enjoy. And even then, it's likely still just in your head.
How many cockroaches are needed for a grande latte?
One dustpan's worth.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Well, at least this article got me thinking about cockroach tiddies, which is a first.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Why must it be eliminated? Explain why there can be no possible alternative.
Force of habit and Obana's continuing cult of personality.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
THEY’RE tapping the line.
FTFY
Who cares?
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Except for the the top .1%. They’ll continue to eat the rest of us for lunch just as they do now.
If these milk crystals can be synthesized, then I could see them used in protein bars or something, otherwise it sounds like harvesting them would be too expensive. Also, anyone remember how ~15 years ago, the hype was that Ostrich meat was going to be the next big thing that everyone would eat breakfast, lunch, AND dinner? I tried an ostrich burger and it was ok, but then I never heard about/saw them since.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
...but let's be reasonable: are there really very many people who would rather drink cockroach milk over milk made from soy, rice, almonds, cashews, etc..?
Same with all these new insect 'energy bars' I'm finding. The idea is sustainability. Which I'm all for. But again: are there really a lot of people who'd rather eat insects than plants? Is this just a gimmick/fad, or is there a burgeoning population dying to eat this stuff?
I get this reference.
And am giggling, because nobody's been offended by it like the left believes.
Trump's nipples contain the best milk of liberty, folks, the best.
... cockmilk?
Also, this has a massive freaking stigma to overcome.
Perhaps in America, but in many other countries insects are commonly eaten. Eating a grub is no different than eating a shrimp.
This is the stupidest thing I read this month.
"Others report producing cockroach milk isn't easy, either"
So why do it ? We already have milk, and it's good enough... easy to to produce. Cows don't mind either.
"researchers believe insect milk, like cockroach milk, could be the next big dairy alternative"
Uh...no. These researchers are either trolling or are insane. Next BIG dairy alternative, really ?
Bugs are only eaten in cultures which have no other dietary options.
I am not so sure about that. I have mostly seen insects eaten as a delicacy or a special treat. Like honeypot ants for dessert, or a bowl of delicious fried crickets as an after dinner snack.
What about cockroach cheese, or butter, or ice cream?
I feel weird about drinking milk that doesn't come from an animal that I was raised to think of as an acceptable source of dairy. Cockroach milk sounds horrifying to me, but for some reason, I'm way more OK with the idea if it's milk products. I'm almost curious about cockroach ice cream.
Or crab or lobster. They are just insects of the sea.
I left a chest of drawers in my detached garage for 5 years in relative warm southern USA. After 5 years of not being opened, the top drawer had 2 inches of roach poop pellets. How much would 1.5 pounds of roach guano sell for? And, yes the chest was discarded afterwards.
Scientists waste a bunch of money on something completely stupid. Want more money.
Trump's nipples contain the best milk of liberty, folks, the best.
Pure, unpasteurized Freedom Milk!
Cockroach milk. Sounds like something from Twilight Zone or X-Files. So in that vein, here's some story ideas for Chris Carter....
A empty test tube that apparently contained an egg yolk sample from the now-extinct passenger pigeon was found in a liquid nitrogen freezer in an obscure government lab in Baltimore. The notes with it indicate that a researcher used an extract from the yolk to cure their cancer. No other information is available.
The dung from the dodo bird contains a previously uncatalogued bacteria that, when planted in the colon of human volunteers, appeared to completely revive dopamine-producing brain cells in patients with advanced Parkinson, leading to a full recovery in 95% of test subjects. The only remaining viable dung sample was inadvertently exposed to a cleaning compound during a lab accident which killed the bacteria. Scientists are hopeful they can find the bacteria in stool samples from the test patients.
List of objections:
1. No
2. Cockroaches don't have babies
3. No
4. Cows a kind of cute and make great jackets
5. No
6. Cockroaches are gross
7. No No No NO
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Just like I said when they suggested we should all eat chocolate covered locusts. You first. And second. Etc.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
Well, not Dokta Jones...
Why do I see Luke Skywalker wiping green milk off his lips, when reading this posts title?
There are two rules for success:
1. Never tell everything you know.
I think I'll pass.
You are a fucking chink. you steal, lie, cheat, steal ideas, steal intellectual property, worship money over all human life and are a fucking weirdo subhuman piece of fucking shit, chink.
You don't like it when people are beating you at your own game I hear.
Folks I propose a new internet tag: TG;DR
Too Gross Didn't Read
Reminds me strongly of the butter bugs from Vorkosigan saga. The ick factor was also quite high until they genetically redesigned the insects to look less like cockroaches. Truth in fiction ?
Well, technically arthropods of the sea... But you are correct.
Non-Linux Penguins ?
The do indeed have six legs, but they also bear live offspring and feed them milk. Apart from them not being warm-blooded, that would almost make them mammals...
Now we just need a way to breed or engineer cockroaches into a practical size for milking. Maybe a healthy dose of radiation will do:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Just make sure not to overdo the radiation part...
We can derive 1,000 dustpans worth as 1 kilo dustpan
& 1,000 kilo dustpans as 1 mega dustpan.
Lets not find out.
Do they produce methane, the greenhouse gas?
{o.o}
Nope, I don't care how good it is or if its super nutritional, I am not drinking cockroach milk or eating anything made with cockroach milk. I don't care how much you sterilize it, I don't care how much you process it. There is absolutely nothing anyone can say to me that would convince me this is anything but gross.
I personally think this idea was not come up with by scientists, I think this was a bet between two marketing assholes to see who could convince stupid people to do stupid things.
"Many other countries" being, like, 5.
Look at the way hamburger 'meat' in America contains on average 5 to 7% beef ONLY nowadays, depending on brand.
Nonsense. Unless you're buying your meat from the rebels living in the sewers of San Angeles, this isn't even remotely true.
The stigma is there for good reason. Bugs are only eaten in cultures which have no other dietary options.
Nope. Most people eat them because they like them.
They're certainly crunchier, tastier and a lot healthier than those Cheetos you're busy stuffing right now.
No sig today...
Tastes great on Froot Loops, and if you have ever had cockroach milk ice cream...it is divine!
I just don't see the point here. There's already a bunch of plant-based alternatives that don't involved roaches (rice, soy, almond, quinoa, coconut, ect.).
The point is this: There's no such thing as a superfood. It's 100% pure unadulterated marketing wank made up by scammers as a way to extract money from holistic idiots.
Somebody out there is hoping "Cockroach milk" is the new "Royal Jelly". That's all this is.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
No sig today...
I read that 32% of US "humburger" is human fetus.
The do indeed have six legs, but they also bear live offspring and feed them milk. Apart from them not being warm-blooded, that would almost make them mammals...
They would almost be mammals were they not insects and completely different.
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What's the point of this shit? Obesity is a larger problem than starvation these days. Africa has come a long way since those perpetually viral pictures of starving kids were taken, 30 to 40 years ago.
Dog's milk, full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Plus the advantage is it taste exactly the same when it goes off as when its fresh and it lasts longer than any other kind of milk (because no bugger'll drink it)
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After a lilbit o' pondering, sure, I'd sign up to milk the lil barstids, if that anus trump had to consume the result.
Maybe it wouldn't be good for/to him, or maybe it'd help him to become a man. Either way's fine wif me.
Well, dolphins are completely different from us as well, yet nobody has a problem calling them mammals instead of fish.
It all depends on the definition. In fact, according to the Cambridge Dictionary, these cockroaches are definitely mammals. "Mammal, noun, any animal of which the female feeds her young on milk from her own body. "
The American English version lower on that same page, adds "gives birth to babies. not eggs", so I guess Americans don't consider a platypus to be a mammal, but are still perfectly OK with cockroaches being mammals. At least, according to Cambridge.
Disclaimer: yes, I know, Cambridge apparently sucks at biology.
It may not be everyone's cup of milk, but for years now, some researchers believe insect milk, like cockroach milk
Any substance that did not come from the mammary gland of a mammal is by definition not milk. If it is derived from plants or nuts it is JUICE. This includes soy "milk", almond "milk" and all the other forms of juice that asshat marketing people keep trying to claim are milk instead of juice. If it comes from insects I have no idea what that is but it is NOT milk.
Yes, I got a contact stupid from reading one of his ebooks.
" a full blown personality disorder."
Just one?
"You should get some help"
CROFL just because I'm not doing it the way YOU want?
Milk in this context does NOT mean what you think it does.
Unless they are talking about secretions from the mammary gland of a mammal then they are not talking about milk so I don't know where you are going with this argument.
They are not talking about something for your decafe latte
No shit...
Well, dolphins are completely different from us as well, yet nobody has a problem calling them mammals instead of fish.
It all depends on the definition. In fact, according to the Cambridge Dictionary, these cockroaches are definitely mammals. "Mammal, noun, any animal of which the female feeds her young on milk from her own body. "
Yeah but follow it on, from the same site
animal noun something that lives and moves but is not a human, bird, fish, or insect:
So we're back to roaches not being mammals.
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if you want to eat bugs, fine, go ahead, just don't try to force that upon everybody (really, these insect eating people are getting worse then those vegans).
protiens can also be had from other things, which are not bugs!
i rather eat no meat at all then to replace it with insectburgers.
tried it once, it's not for me, never again.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Yesterday you outright fabricated a quote from an article to support your argument. Whenever i get mod points, I'll be sure to drop a couple of downmods your way. I dont care what you say (unless it's an appology to us for lying).
Human Blood the Ultimate Superfood? Also, I will never eat or drink anything from Cape Town.
I've seen Temple of Doom. EVERYONE at that table was HINDU.
I would rather have the chilled monkey brains.
Wouldn't milking cockroaches be the ultimate labor-intensive job? I suppose we could make it a task for prisoners.
You are a fucking chink. you steal, lie, cheat, steal ideas, steal intellectual property
Today's new cold war is between a country that really, really wants to build stuff and a country that wants to assert intellectual property rights even over inventions it will not exploit, and have those rights extended until the heat death of the universe.
'Hambuger meat' in a mix of beef/pork/chicken fillers. There is no 'hamburger' animal.
Like a hotdog. But if its labeled '100% beef' that's pretty much what you are getting.
Loosen your tin foil hat or learn to read the package/contents.. well, do both.
At least it's not bugs.
BlameBillCosby.com
For one, insects won't be "the next big thing" even if nobody goes eww about them.
There is no free lunch. If you create food based on cockroaches (or their "milk"), then you need large scale cockroach farming and these cockroaches will all have to eat more food than you get out of them.
And not the garbage wild cockroaches eat - when they're used for human food, they can't eat dubious stuff that may pollute the food produced.
It might be possible to switch from cow to cockroach (if nobody goes eww!), but then we need to make about as much cockroach food as we need cow food today. This will have its own carbon footprint, as well as using up lots of farmland.
Wild cockroaches feed on scraps & garbage - there will be nowhere near enough of that if we need enough cockroaches to replace dairy cows. Their food will have to be grown (using all sorts of fertilizers & pesticides), harvested and transported.
No free lunch - not even with cockroaches.
Let's not forget that he was wrong about Hillary! getting installed.
For hundreds of thousands of years, homo sapiens drank only mother's milk and water.
Suddenly we need alternatives?
We don't need milk alternatives to breast milk for babies or water for adults.
If you want to go around eating or milking cockroaches because you enjoy it, knock yourself out, but don't act like it solves some problem that just drinking water and eating food don't.
Let's wait for monsanto and the like to change a few genes ; when the cockroaches reach the size of a cow, it will look way more appetizing.
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Found the dot head curry n!gger.
Humans carbon footprints must be eliminated.
They'll be feeding powdered humans to crickets soon enough.
The summary sounds like something Paula Poundstone would recite on "Wait wait... Don't tell me!"
I've seen Temple of Doom. EVERYONE at that table was HINDU.
I would rather have the chilled monkey brains.
Wouldn't milking cockroaches be the ultimate labor-intensive job? I suppose we could make it a task for prisoners.
I imagine it's very hard to find their nipples.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
I think there is a group of wealthy scientists somewhere which is playing with the human race. "Let's make them eat plants...no, insects! The really nasty ones!" "Let's get them to abandon nuclear technology, and be at the mercy of the elements (we will call it 'green' technology)!" "Let's get them to carry a radio beacon everywhere they go!" "Let's get them to post their intimate details online, and promise not to sell / misuse them!"
No.
Ferret
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc
More like cum from a syphilitic despot's spigot.
Nah, you just find the juiciest roach and squeeze it like a water balloon. Just becarefil to not pop it!
You have pretty much zero idea of what you're talking about. It's beef, it's usually a lot of the trimmings and other not so tasty bits, but its not full of insects or some crap like that.
Keep flapping your head like you know what you're talking about though.
May you all feed well.
They're also invertebrates. I don't recall there ever being an invertebrate mammal.
Also, this has a massive freaking stigma to overcome.
Insects are starvation food. Show someone a hundred pound box of cockroaches, a box of corn and wheat and bread, and a box of steaks, and see how many say "Yummie! Gimme that box of tasty cockroach goodness!"
As well, in a world where it is fashionable to claim gluten allergies we all need to talk about Chitin allergies.
Exactly why there is a push to get people to eat starvation food is a mystery
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The point is this: There's no such thing as a superfood.
This statement alone should have this post cruising at +5.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I imagine it's very hard to find their nipples.
If you can find the nipples on an almond, I guess you can find them on roaches too.
100g of milk from 1k roaches. If my math's right, that's somewhere around 100mg/roach. 100mg is in the ballpark of 100ml. That seems like a lot. Is this one milking session? Do the roaches survive this milking? TFA might tell me, but how could I ever know?
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
The stigma is there for good reason. Bugs are only eaten in cultures which have no other dietary options.
Nope. Most people eat them because they like them.
They're certainly crunchier, tastier and a lot healthier than those Cheetos you're busy stuffing right now.
And some people drink their own urine and eat their own feces. Forgive me if i don't find that very appetizing as well as eating insects.
Coming over for the human placenta festival? This year we're enjoying it raw, so as to not destroy the superfood aspects of this wonderful food. People who eat placenta eat it because they really like it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Also, this has a massive freaking stigma to overcome.
Perhaps in America, but in many other countries insects are commonly eaten. Eating a grub is no different than eating a shrimp.
So does the grub have the consistency of the lobster or shrimp? I've accidentally stepped on a few, and the results look like Elmer's glue. Except for the one's who's goo looks green.
The innards of a shrimp or lobster are muscle and look like white meat and eat like meat. The nice part is we can trim out the fecal matter. I know, some cultures eat fecal matter.(Bedouins) I'll avoid cultural appropriation in this instance.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Sure hope they are not accidentally milking the male cockroaches..... hmmm this milk tastes funny and seems to be sticking to my teeth
Completely different. No characteristics in common? Such as having an English language noun representing their species/phylum? Such as occupying space? Such as existing on or near the surface of the Earth? Such as being smaller that an average adult blue whale? Such as being living creatures? And on, and on. Completely different. Literally, you people should show a bit more respect/competence in using the English language.
100mg is in the ballpark of 100ml.
UNfortunately, you are out by a factor of 1000.
I have always thought it was a slight flaw in the metric system that they didn't make the scaling for SI unit of mass consistent with the scaling for the SI unit for water, to avoid this exact confusion, but there you go.
the actual conversion for mass to weight for liquids that are the same density of water is as follows:
1 Litre of fresh water at 4 degrees and 1 bar of pressure weighs approximately 1kg.
Therefore
1 kg = 1 Litre.
1 g = 1 ml
1 mg = 0.001g (or 1 microlitre)
1 drop = 20 ml
so that 100mg made by 1000 roaches = 100ml or - slightly less than half a cup.
One roach is only making 0.01 ml -about 1/5 of a drop.
There's no way I'm drinking that though - I'd rather do a Bear Grylls.
By the definition I was taught in middle school life science, mammals are warm blooded, have hair, produce milk, and breathe air.
for dolphins, platypuses, and roaches:
1) warm blooded - yep, yep, nope
2) have hair - yep (in utero), yep, nope
3) give milk - yep, yep, maybe (is it really "milk"?)
4) breath air - yep, yep, yep
Dolphins aren't so different from us anyway. Similar bones, blood, lungs, brains, teeth, eyes, skin rather than scales, bilateral symmetry, language use, tribalism, love to eat fish, rape, infanticide. What's so different?
Do the roaches survive this milking?
Finding a way to allow them to survive the milking would be economically beneficial because you can reuse your roaches. If they don't survive now, they will find a way to milk them without killing them.
Just like the slime extraction from snails- they used to end up killing them, but they found a way to let them live through the process.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Exactly why there is a push to get people to eat starvation food is a mystery
I think it's primarily driven by landlords. You don't have a cockroach problem. It's a gastronomic opportunity.
who is going to guarantee that white liquid to be milk? just an elaborate cockroach plan to get free blowjobs if you ask me...
I've seen Temple of Doom. EVERYONE at that table was HINDU.
I would rather have the chilled monkey brains.
Wouldn't milking cockroaches be the ultimate labor-intensive job? I suppose we could make it a task for prisoners.
Dude, monkey brains are delicious. If you haven't tried them then you're missing out!
I mind and it matters. No way in hell that I'm knowingly drinking cockroach milk.....not NO but Hell no
I'm so happy to hear this news. I was growing tired of drinking dog urine for its health benefits.
Eating anything including bugs to feed the massive billions of humans. And now they want to grow beef too. Anything to reduce the footprint of our ever burgeoning population. How will we come up with freshwater needs? Oh yeah, desal. We need to stop overproducing humans.
Each species can manufacture something useful for humans, the game is to unlock each species to production potential. /purpose of life
UNfortunately, you are out by a factor of 1000.
Yes I was. I feel not unlike the fool.
The point is this: There's no such thing as a superfood. It's 100% pure unadulterated marketing wank made up by scammers as a way to extract money from holistic idiots.
Also worth mentioning that people who go on "superfood only" diets end up malnourished, given the marketing departments and "feel good" health food websites/magazines neglected to include a complete micronutrient balance in everything they labeled as a superfood. Even if they did, don't bother with them anyways. Sure, they may be nutrient dense in some areas, but after your body gets what it needs, then the extra amount doesn't matter, and can even be harmful, for example you can destroy your liver if you overdose on vitamin b3.
Remember kids, Dr. Oz, Foodbabe, Mercola, and practically every website with the word "nutrition" or "natural" in its name doesn't actually give you any useful information about much of anything. They just "invent" facts and then rip each other off, thus multiple sources claim the same shit, even though it's just shit. For example, Dr. Oz perpetuates the myth of HCG weight loss claims, as well as miracle weight loss pills. The whole point is to tell you what you want to hear so that you keep coming back, because these sound a lot better than the only proven method: Calories in, calories out. That, and it only makes for one episode.
No thanks . Some of us are allergic. We don't need communists telling us what food we may eat.
They're crustaceans not insects. Eating woodlice and pill bugs would be the same since they're crustaceans.
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I am not so sure about that. I have mostly seen insects eaten as a delicacy or a special treat. Like honeypot ants for dessert, or a bowl of delicious fried crickets as an after dinner snack.
It's a lot cheaper to raise chickens on compost than it is to pay people to forage for insects, so the ones that can be easily farmed aside, insects can even be expensive. Grasshoppers, crickets, and some but not all kinds of worms can be easily raised (also on compost) so some insects are probably plenty cheap. You can literally raise crickets by throwing some crickets and some compost into a barrel and putting a screen over it.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I just don't see the point here.
Some desperate assholes were unable to think of a good idea and decided that any idea is better than no idea.
I have mostly seen insects eaten as a delicacy or a special treat.
Disgusting shit often evolves from being something you'd only eat if you were starving to being a culinary fad.
Forgive me if i don't find that very appetizing
A hell of a Viking you'd make...
Perhaps we will one day have bugalo farms on Mars, This is great news for Amy's folks!
No, 100mg is in the ballpark of 0.1ml. In spite of SI being the Perfect System of Measurements, grams, liters, and meters (the basic units) are only loosely related (1g = 0.001l H2O, 1l - 0.001 m^3)...
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I know, some cultures eat fecal matter.(Bedouins)
This I did not know but it goes a long way towards explaining why the Saudis are considered on par with the Japanese for possessing demented sexual tendencies...
Yeah? We'll take your word for that.
I just don't see the point here. There's already a bunch of plant-based alternatives that don't involved roaches (rice, soy, almond, quinoa, coconut, ect.).
Rice: Not nutrient dense, and getting less dense due to CO2 increase.
Soy: I can't digest soy. If I eat a burrito with TVP in it, for example, it destroys my digestion. If my lady (who worked as a chef for Christina on Orcas Island, among her other culinary chops) puts tofu into a meal I won't taste it, but it will make me urpy and pukey (yes, those are technical terms) before I even finish the meal. Eating large amounts of soy may increase cancer risk in men due to phytoestrogen. Most soy produced is now GMO, which I have mixed feelings about scientifically, and specifically Monsanto's IP, which I have very clear feelings about politically. Their competition is Dupont and BASF. Dupont has a long history of being shit (They and BP together have a company which has an obvious, partially-paid-for-by-tax-money patent on efficiently producing Butanol, a 1:1 carbon-neutral replacement for gasoline, and have been suing GE to prevent them from selling the stuff, which THE WORLD NEEDS) and BASF is a major polluter (So's Dupont, and always has been) so even if Monsanto's dominance wanes, the slack will only be taken up by other shitlords.
Almonds: It takes about a gallon of water to grow a single almond. They consume literally ten percent of California's water every year, and water is becoming scarcer. Avocados have been removed from southern Caifornia en masse because there is simply not enough water to irrigate them. Almonds are next.
Quinoa: We're eating so much of it that the people who historically ate it are going hungry, because as usual only a small percentage of the population profits from exporting what the majority of people used to eat. Yay capitalism! Isn't it just the best?
Coconut: Coconut shortage!
Insects: Many of them can literally be raised on compost and most require little water. At least some can be raised in almost any climate.
Yeast: Can be raised anywhere on very little, and this is what they're actually trying to do.
I'm not actually in a rush to eat bugs or bug products, but there are clear and compelling reasons why one might want to.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The next big innovation after almond and soy milk:
Beef milk!
Ew. The elite don't want to eat commoner. They make the commoners milk roaches and then drink the milk.
In my opinion, marketing such a product has risks. At least in this country, calling this product, "Cockroach Milk", will mostly get stares of morbid curiosity from customers at the supermarket. Then, as word of mouth spreads the info, "S-Mart carries Cockroach Milk. Can you believe it? Ewww! Wanna try it?"
Maybe not all, but if many take that branch of opinion, Its demise from the marketplace would be assured.
This is opinion, but cockroaches to me have always been associated with dirt and nastiness. Crickets, maybe not so much. Crème de la crickets, anyone?
Comes across as immature.
Have you ever tried milking a cockroach? I can't find any milking stools short enough.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Yeah, so what if there are people on other continents who eat them. Good for them, but not here. There are entire continents full of people for who insects are a non-starter.
You don't change those minds (which you seem to want to do) by acting the Know-It All ass.
Forgive me if i don't find that very appetizing
A hell of a Viking you'd make...
Hey - if they need some extra, I could ship them some.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Just nope.
EVERYONE at that table was HINDU.
No, the Indian people were part of a Kali cult
Unless I'm missing something, that would have made them...Hindus, unsurprisingly.
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Sorry, but I'm not going to be able to be reasonable about this. Appealing to my intellect about this "food" is absolutely hopeless. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I sure as fuck am never going along, and that's just how it's going to be.
But generations die off. Maybe some young'un who grew up on the stuff while I tried to not ever watch (or smell) them eat, can take my place in society. *sigh* Fair enough.
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How about we just drink water like we're supposed to.
"This is a rat burger? Not bad."
The whole reason for sudden interest in insects is that they will be kinder on the environment than other sources of protein. I doubt too much jungle will need to be cleared for cockroaches but this still seems an incredibly inefficient way to get nutrients. Just eat the damn things, don't milk them!
Taxonomy is heritage based. That's why birds are still considered dinosaurs of the suborder theropoda and the platypus is a mammal even though it has venom, a bill, and lays eggs.
A roach could never be a mammal even if one was produced that had fur, ears, mammaries, a neocortex, and gave live birth.
I expect crickets, earthworms, etc. are here to stay as items of diet, but I don't expect them to ever become as popular as soy beans, much less hamburgers or bacon.
I wonder how a lab would go about growing bacon...
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Well, they're fish. That's pretty different.
Velociraptor = Distiraptor / Timeraptor
1 drop is equal to 20 grams? That's what she said.
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Tell that to all the /.ers drinking SOYMILK
So a bird is not an animal?! It gets better and better.
Of course you millennials have no scruples about muching down on a handful of cockroaches - they're a huge upgrade from Tide Pods, after all... ;-)
And no, powdered crickets are most likely NOT here to stay - they're just fawned over by hipsters thinking that they somehow "save the planet". In reality, they provoke, (and some early evidence seems to show, even invoke and initially sensitize), severe allergic reactions to shellfish. All "cricket powder" vendors warn users to NOT consume their products if you have ever shown any allergy to shellfish - if they don't, they're just begging for a lawsuit.
And yes, eating bugs is gross.
"The future's good and the present is nothing to sneeze at." - Roblimo's last
And those bugs are both much tastier and not nearly so gross after they've been eaten by chickens, turkeys, pheasants, quail, ducks, etc....
"The future's good and the present is nothing to sneeze at." - Roblimo's last
Agreed - Beef standards in the US are actually pretty high - and if you want even higher quality, it's not at all hard to ensure you're getting 100% local beef with a known history (drug/hormone/antibiotic-free, assured feed/finish, etc.), especially here in Texas, where we've taken our beef pretty seriously for nearly two centuries...
"The future's good and the present is nothing to sneeze at." - Roblimo's last
First, there ate no superfoods. Superfood is a marketing term to sell goji berries which are just super expensive raisins, cocoa oil as healthy, etc. Also the idea of drinking your vegies instead of eating them is not really healthy. It is better than fries, but not better than eating vegies. And eating beatles will not help your diet.
The last non-dairy milk replacement I tried was Ripple's "pea milk". It was a frothy disgusting mess I could only describe as warm Carnation milkshake in a carton. You know, those disgusting pre-made milkshakes sold out of ice cream trucks and 7-11 stores across the nation? That bad.
I'll stick with lactose free milk, taste is similar enough to the real thing without the midnight toilet runs.
On one hand, that's what I said when my lady brought up this subject. On the other hand, how do you know? Maybe some bugs are tastier than chicken. On the gripping hand, two billion people eat bugs regularly. There's reasons why you would do that even if chicken is tastier...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
If the chinese and all muslims are not systematically destroyed until they are all gone humans will die out on this earth. the chinese are fucking scum and will kill any chance of reaching the stars, and the muslims are satanic scum that work to ensure humanity is destroyed completely.
Fuck you. Fuck the chinese devils, and fuck Satan/Mohammed.
DIE, bitch, die.
Crustaceans are arthropods. So are insects and arachnids. He was using the term "insects" in the general sense to mean "bugs", which is correct. Instead of trying to be pedantic (and failing), you should work on your communications skills and understand that language has nuances and colloquialisms.
You've never seen a crab get cut open, have you? Crack open that shell and it's a nasty brownish goo.
If you stepped on a shrimp, it would also look like Elmer's glue.
You've never seen a crab get cut open, have you? Crack open that shell and it's a nasty brownish goo.
If you stepped on a shrimp, it would also look like Elmer's glue.
DOOD! You don't eat the crab goo! The muscle meat is the treat, and you get crab crap from the goostuff. Jeebuz Christ, didn't they teach you anything when you went to Red Lobster?
And no, raw squished shrimp just look like squished shrimp meat, a little translucent because they weren't cooked yet. I fish with shrimp at times, and when you are using the dead ones, they often get squished. Just look like uncooked shrimp.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
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Super food?
Does it make you fly? If not, I don't want any. Hell, if it meant I didn't have to drink cockroach milk then trust me, I'd *learn* to fly.
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I'm going to need a magnifying glass to see the actual article. Are cockroaches running slashdot?
Ew. The elite don't want to eat commoner. They make the commoners milk roaches and then drink the milk.
Excellent riposte. But occasionally they’ll want solid food.
Kobe beef?
I wonder if the Kobe ranchers ever think to themselves "I'm massaging a a cow so some rich dude can pay $1000 for a steak"?
Your basic thesis may be correct, but your spelling checker has Auto-Incorrected "marketing cunts" to "scientists".
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
What's with they're tapping of the line?
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I think what he meant to say is dolphins are birds.
Friendly reminder: the top .1% does not include people like Hugo Chavez who died with $2 billion in his pocket.
Those guys are cool, cool communists and are therefore exempt from our crooked little rules.
I bet those ranchers are thinking, "Ah ! I HATE getting paid $1000 per stake!!"
Only outside the US and on slashdot do people talk about "delicacies" like they are good things.
... often true for status symbols in general.
Give me a cheapo cheeseburger over an expensive plate of fish eyes any day.
Just about always true for delicacies
Eating something gross is no different than eating something gross.
OK, you got me.