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Laptops With 128GB of RAM Are Here (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Brace yourself for laptops with 128GB of RAM because they're coming. Today, Lenovo announced its ThinkPad P52, which, along with that massive amount of memory, also features up to 6TB of storage, up to a 4K, 15.6-inch display, an eighth-gen Intel hexacore processor, and an Nvidia Quadro P3200 graphics card. The ThinkPad also includes two Thunderbolt three ports, HDMI 2.0, a mini DisplayPort, three USB Type-A ports, a headphone jack, and an Ethernet port. The company hasn't announced pricing yet, but it's likely going to try to compete with Dell's new 128GB-compatible workstation laptops. The Dell workstation laptops in question are the Precision 7730 and 7530, which are billed as "ready for VR" mobile workstations. According to TechRadar, "These again run with either 8th-gen Intel CPUs or Xeon processors, AMD Radeon WX or Nvidia Quadro graphics, and the potential to specify a whopping 128GB of 3200MHz system memory."
I don't have any use for something like this, either personally, or in my work. What's the point of something like this? What kind of software needs this kind of juice?
I don't respond to AC's.
Every time you think, /.'s remaining scum can't possibly get any dumber, socially degenerated and psychopathic.
Nex, they will start resembling the average "voter".
Is a 15.6 inch 4K display even usable? I doubt you could see it; I still have to squint at my 17" HD screen on my laptop.
The 128GB of RAM is cool though. Not sure most people will need that in a laptop, but it is cool.
... with 3 kB RAM, 8-colour TV display with 176x184 pixels, and magnetic tape storage.
I bet it is just as fun as this machine. At least for me.
People doing CAD, 3D/CGI, Scientific Computing, GPGPU/HighPerformanceComputing use monster workstations every day - Dual Xeon 8, 12 or 16 Core, multiple Nvdia Titan GPUs, 64 to 256GB RAM and so on. That's what you need for today's 3D DCC and CAD design workflows. Anything lower, and everything slows down to a crawl and you don't make your deadlines. These new laptops don't even satisfy what is really needed - at least 8 to 12 CPU cores and room for 2+ powerful GPUs - but will be good enough to get work done on the go. That's the segment they are aimed at - the one that cannot get anything much done on quadcore core i7 CPUs and mobile GPUs.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
They will be stuck in 16GB land forever, all in the name of thin and light and no ports and jacks.
...and 30 minutes of battery-life, are here!!!
I mean, why even call something like this a Laptop? It is about as able to work without being tethered to an AC power source as is a Cray-1.
Not to mention that it is either going to have a fan that sounds like a furnace-blower, or spend its entire life in thermal-throttling mode.
Just because you CAN do a thing, doesn't mean you SHOULD do a thing...
Seriously.
By the way, we use laptops with lots of TB of data storage and our blade servers have a lot more RAM than that, so some of our datasets can't be loaded and processed on laptops.
We would love better laptops.
One of my colleagues is starting a lab soon, and one of the conditions of his startup package was a top of the line laptop suite and blade servers.
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Just checked the dell configurator. What you get is impressive for the price. But the memory tops out at 64gb ecc memory. There are no 128gb options.
few years from now, this will be seen as ridiculously low...
That's a whole lotta spy and bloatware that we are now going to be further expected to have the RAM to maintain.
Check your premises.
That's a LOT of VR porn.
Dear Apple,
Please have some courage and release a pro version of your laptop. If IBM and Dell can do this, you can do the same. It's the year 2018, 16 GB should be a base, not the maximum.
Call me when they have 640 GB of RAM, thought ought to be enough for anybody !!!
A.
If they sold a model with Ryzen processor and AMD GPU with that much RAM, I would buy it.
What application on Earth needs 128 gb and also needs to run on a "laptop"? I'm no technophobe, but seriously, that's enough RAM to store dozens of movies and keep them in memory, but unless you are Johnny 5 and can zip through media at super speed, movies will stream from slower memories just fine.
I was curious to see how this beast looked like. I can't find pics on Lenovo's own site, but notebookcheck.net has an article. Pics from the article:
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I'll buy one for $300 in about 5 years!
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Did you know optical mice use ~ 5 times the power of roller-ball mice?
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In case you wondered, these are regular laptops with four So-DIMM slots but you can get 32GB regular So-DIMMs.
http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/ram/118634-samsung-10nm-class-32gb-ddr4-sodimms-mass-production/
This is good news and means the potential max memory of every system using DDR4 has doubled. So e.g. a $400 laptop with two So-DIMMs that comes with only 4GB memory may have its max capacity doubled from 32GB to 64GB, if the BIOS/firmware is updated or if it's a new model starting from now.
This should expend to desktops, perhaps your desktop will support 128GB up from the old 64GB (or 64GB if it only has two DIMM slots). At least on Coffee Lake, perhaps on older systems as well. Maybe on Zen desktops, we'll be able to know in a few weeks/months.
Small trivia, Core i7 920, i7 980, Xeon variants when not using registered memory have an official max memory capacity of 24GB, but support 48GB in fact. Ditto i5 750, i7 870 which have official max 16GB memory, effective 32GB. This is because 8GB DDR3 DIMMs came out after they launched.
Still waiting them out on my x220, waiting for real keyboards to return.
of al legitimate something that you
Now I can finally open a pic of yo mamma!
*badum-ching
640YB ought to be enough for anybody.
Wow that's amazing a single 128GB stick on one channel for AMD laptops!!!
That much âoepowerâ has to be sourced from somewhere.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
It still has a headphone port. Not courageous enough to remove that?
I'm still on 4GB RAM and not even straining, I understand some people need more but I wonder what the use case for 128GB is!
Arm processor as good that the i5. So laptop urge to grow better than your next phone... but then who need a 128gb laptop ?
Ceci n'est pas une Signature !
Arm processor as good that the i5. So laptop urge to grow better than your next lenovo/moto phone...
Ceci n'est pas une Signature !
My laptop only has 32GB of SSD, thank you.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Too bad chick aren't impressed with the size of your RAM...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Max out all the sliders and get ready to drop 10k....
Considering the level of illegal price fixing in DDR4 right now, I can safely say it definitely costs more than the average house.
128 GB is bare minimum to properly run all the malware included with your new laptop.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
Nothing to see here. Then again, this is 2018 where you can get .5 TB MicroSD Cards for real so go figure.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
I sell second hand devices (laptops, tablets and occasionally desktops) and people are still bringing in brand new windows 10 devices with only 2GB of ram but most now have 4GB. 8GB is rare and I haven't even seen one with more than 16GB yet and i've only seen two of those.
The ones that I have seen were maxed out and didn't support any larger amount of memory. Like the laptop i'm using right now is maxed out with 8GB and the one I use at home is maxed out at 16GB.
Windows needs least 4GB of ram to not page to disk when installing windows updates by itself! It's infuriating that they still sell them with less.
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
I think we agree [Lenovo's] actions were heroic. The question is, why were they necessary?
order of magnitude
You keep using those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
... said only 16 Gigs of RAM was possible in a portible computer.
Anyone spending more than ~$400 on a laptop is getting played.
for power hungry applications as they don't really handle thermal dissipation as well as their full size workstation brethren.
Not to mention the high end hardware that can deliver the power you need will eat a battery so fast it's shocking.
Since the damn thing is going to have to be plugged in at all times anyway ( with the added bonus of that tiny ass screen ) why
get a laptop for this sort of work ? ( I use CAD and DCC software and I'm sure as hell not going to do it on a 17" monitor on a road trip )
Additionally, I've never really liked laptops as their upgrade possibilities are extremely limited ( if they exist at all ).
Yes. A Lenovo P71, fully loaded with 64 GB of RAM, 2 TB of SSD, and the 17.3" 4K screen, comes in at $4166. I wouldn't expect this new unit, with more memory, SSD, but a smaller screen, to be significantly more cost, certainly no more than $5000.
And of course an iMac Pro is by NO means a "portable" solution. I can toss my P71, power supply, mouse, 4 days of clothes, toiletries, and UE Boom 2 and cables into an Everki Titan backpack and go anywhere. I did just that last week, spending 8 days in Asia at 3 factories and 2 hotels. Can't do that with an iMac, no way no how. I can pick up my laptop and run between floors in buildings, hard to do that with an iMac Pro - even to move just a desk or two over.
Now, you CAN use an iMac (running Windows, of course, if you're doing any serious hardware engineering) Pro to do everything, and rely upon a second laptop to remote in to your iMac Pro. But I dare you to try to do 3D CAD with 100-200 msec of latency - good luck getting the right surfaces or reference points selected! And that is a LOW latency for many situations, such as a Starbucks, an airport lounge - or overseas.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Does anyone care?
That's almost enough memory to run Firefox.
Macs have had 128 gig for the past few years and still do.....wait that's SSD. Damn Apple.
I have some large 100gb databases that i store with redis. It would be nice to keep a local copy on a laptop for when i'm without internet access, and use them at full speed.
My desktop doesn't do 128GB. Why the hell does a crappy laptop come first?
I probably don't want to see the price of these things...
Who cares, they still freeze when they decide to update right in the middle when I want to use them.
Why am I bracing myself for a laptop?
That version does not have direct from disk streaming.
Decent specs but they don't mention how thin it is! Will I look cool using this laptop or not?
There’s some logic in doing this kind of work in the cloud. It doesn’t save much money or effort in the long run having a development environment on your workstation.
If it’s not the RAM limiting you, it’s the data sets, storage, or shared environments, or even just leaving it running when you head home, or having another set of eyes collaborate on your problem.
That said, it is stupid Apple doesn’t have beefy pro laptops as an option, but running a dev environment on your laptop should not be the reason.
Anywhere you don't have net access but do have biggish data and a need for number crunching. Medical in the field comes to mind.
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whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
The power supply will no doubt weigh 1kg.
They don't need to be. At least in my line of work.
Here's what I've found. Getting access to external displays is relatively easy, and even if you can't, well you've at least got the laptop's internal display. The key thing you need is an array of display cables. Then if the remote worksite can supply a display you can connect to it (for some reason, I've found that the commonly available displays in my company only come with DVI cables. I need DisplayPort). I bought DP and HDMI cables for my laptop bag for just this purpose.
Same goes for external mice and keyboards. I pack an external mouse because that's a no-brainer. External KB, I rely upon the remote site to supply or I do without. But again, gaining access to external keyboards is trivially easy. Therefore I rarely have to do without.
I thought the lastet intel architecture work best with RAM amounts divisible by 3 due to the CPUs being in blocks of 3. Wont 128GB will be inefficient and if your going big you want maximum efficiency.
For a dollar!
fake news. Optane aint memory
Man, This is Huge.... 128GB of Ram .... Back in days laptops used to come in 128 of storage.,..
Pre wedding photoshoot cost
Seriously, RAM is so cheap now that to optimize for it misses the point. You know what is expensive? People's time. That's where the cost is. If you have to optimize for something, optimize the use of people's time.
Optimizing for RAM, CPU or disk space is optimizing some of the cheapest resources we have. That's just dumb. Don't be dumb.
imac pro no repair over priced upgrades and storage locked on MB Starting at only $4999
whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
You mean something an order of magnitude faster than a overheating unupgradable tin can from 5 years ago? Have you tried wallmart?
imac pro no repair over priced upgrades and storage locked on MB Starting at only $4999
whatever.
You actually think this laptop will be significantly less than that?
No slightly less in price not significantly less, but an order of magnitude or two more powerful.
I'd truly like to see something that is an order or two of magnitude more powerful than an 18 core iMac Pro, that didn't also require a rack.
You mean something an order of magnitude faster than a overheating unupgradable tin can from 5 years ago? Have you tried wallmart?
We were talking about the iMac Pro, you dolt.