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118 All-Time Heat Records Set Around the Globe (miamiherald.com)
"It's so hot, even parts of the Arctic are on fire," reports Vox, citing wildfires in Sweden, while Greece "has declared a state of emergency as raging forest fires have killed at least 81 people and injured more than 190."
But heat-related disasters are happening around the world. In Japan 86 people have been killed by heatstroke, while another 23,000 people have been hospitalized -- about half of them over the age of 65 -- in a heat wave forecast to continue for another two weeks. "Japan hit 106 degrees on Monday, its hottest temperature ever," reports the Associated Press, adding that "So far this month, at least 118 of these all-time heat records have been set or tied across the globe." An anonymous reader quotes their report. "We now have very strong evidence that global warming has already put a thumb on the scales, upping the odds of extremes like severe heat and heavy rainfall," Stanford University climate scientist Noah Diffenbaugh said. "We find that global warming has increased the odds of record-setting hot events over more than 80 percent of the planet, and has increased the odds of record-setting wet events at around half of the planet..."
"The world is becoming warmer and so heat waves like this are becoming more common," said Friederike Otto, deputy director of the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.
"Death Valley, California, has set three consecutive daily record-high temperatures of 127 degrees," reports the Washington Post, adding that "Sometimes, like right now in the Western U.S., it's too hot for airplanes to fly" because of heat-related changes in air density at high-altitude airports. In Europe, nuclear power plants in Finland, Sweden, and German were forced to cut electricity production because high temperatures heated the seawater needed to cool reactors.
In northern California 38,000 people fled their homes as an 80,900-acre wildfire spread through the Shasta-Trinity area. Reuters reports the wildfire was caused "by hot, dry weather and high winds" -- and that it's one of 89 large wildfires currently burning in 14 U.S. states.
But heat-related disasters are happening around the world. In Japan 86 people have been killed by heatstroke, while another 23,000 people have been hospitalized -- about half of them over the age of 65 -- in a heat wave forecast to continue for another two weeks. "Japan hit 106 degrees on Monday, its hottest temperature ever," reports the Associated Press, adding that "So far this month, at least 118 of these all-time heat records have been set or tied across the globe." An anonymous reader quotes their report. "We now have very strong evidence that global warming has already put a thumb on the scales, upping the odds of extremes like severe heat and heavy rainfall," Stanford University climate scientist Noah Diffenbaugh said. "We find that global warming has increased the odds of record-setting hot events over more than 80 percent of the planet, and has increased the odds of record-setting wet events at around half of the planet..."
"The world is becoming warmer and so heat waves like this are becoming more common," said Friederike Otto, deputy director of the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.
"Death Valley, California, has set three consecutive daily record-high temperatures of 127 degrees," reports the Washington Post, adding that "Sometimes, like right now in the Western U.S., it's too hot for airplanes to fly" because of heat-related changes in air density at high-altitude airports. In Europe, nuclear power plants in Finland, Sweden, and German were forced to cut electricity production because high temperatures heated the seawater needed to cool reactors.
In northern California 38,000 people fled their homes as an 80,900-acre wildfire spread through the Shasta-Trinity area. Reuters reports the wildfire was caused "by hot, dry weather and high winds" -- and that it's one of 89 large wildfires currently burning in 14 U.S. states.
People are so fucking stupid it is infuriating.
We bicker about every stupid issue under the sun instead of taking the action we know is necessary.
Hopefully the American public will start to realize that the GOP and their current president are not representing ordinary citizens, but influential corporations, especially the ethically flexible ones, such as those highly invested in military and oil.
This is why the GOP and their friends at FOX have been climate change deniers, and the current president is calling it a hoax. It's all about protecting profits right up until the point the entire world goes to shit.
The US is the only country in the world where a large percentage of the population still does not believe in climate change even though 99% of scientists support it. This sick situation thanks to GOP politicians, lobbyists and the media that supports them, especially FOX News.
Can you please tell them to fuck off before it is too late?
We have two or three or more wildfires in my state every summer, and we always have, some of it is par for the course. I don't doubt that some of it is unusual, either, but that total number is probably not what it seems.
With exponential growth in third world country populations as well as rapid industrialisation of China etc. this is only the beginning. What needs to be done is to make a choice: More humans helped into this world through aid and relief efforts for irreversible damage to the environment, or a sustainable future for those that will be left of us.
Please prove me wrong.
How can any organism survive with temperatures that high?
They will watch in amusement from air conditioned comfort while the poor die. It is what they want, we are powerless to stop them.
It's not, nobody said it was, and you don't even believe your strawman so why post it? The article is about the wide-spread pattern of heat records, individually which are weather events, in aggregate and over the course of years form a pattern of climate change.
The retirement problem will fix itself
there are still people who think global warming is a hoax. 2018 was the coolest and wettest summer in Greece that I remember of, and I am 40 years old. The fires, as proven by satellite photos showing 14 simultaneous focii lying on two perfectly straight lines, where an act of arsonism. To be clear, I do not believe that global warming is a hoax. I am just saying that using half truths or straight out lies to support it justifies people claiming it is a lie.
By the way 2018 was the hottest and driest summer of the last 50 years for Sweden. That and the Japan heatstroke case would have been enough. No need to lie about Greece.
Conservatives just aren't convinced yet. When they believe if it, they will lead the world into action! Till then you are an uncivilized, dangerous, deranged, snowflake, who should be jailed for spreading fake news! #MAGA
Not to mention the temperature records set in the Arctic over the last few seasons. One of the reason for harsher winters in North America has been massive outflows of cold air out of the Arctic as it warms. We are literally watching the world warm, and you still have people vomiting out that idiotic "weather" meme. And yes, unless is a complete idiot, you have to know you're spouting nonsense when you go "it's summer so it's warm, so no global warming!"
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I support this article 100%. However I have a nano-nit to pick with climate scientist Noah Diffenbaugh at Stanford University in California, USA. To quote Noah: "record-setting hot events over more than 80 percent of the planet". Did he mean "planet" or did he really mean over 80% of the land on Planet Earth? If he meant "planet", then the percentage of land based events is much higher than 80%.
Wow, you probably though that was smart and all.
I have to ask. Are you functionally retarded?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Because when you come to Tommy's the holiday's foreverrrrrr.
Newbies, don't confuse weather with climate so I swear I will spit out like a sewer hole!
A Trump voter. Don't waste your time. Dumb or deluded, it doesn't really matter.
I'm sitting in my La-Z-boy, cat in lap, in the comfort of my apartment. You say it's hot outside? Why would I go outside, I got air and a fluffy cat.
If cold in winter is "just weather", why is heat in summer "climate"?
May I ask, what the fuck are you talking about?
I don't respond to AC's.
Vote for Hillary next time and it will all be better.
Hillary isn't running again, shit heel. But yes, vote Democratic, and the people in office will work to improve things. Nobody ever claimed "suddenly global climate change will go away", you fuckwad.
I don't respond to AC's.
It's not, nobody said it was...
This guy said it:
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
Ahhh old school xenophobia, where everything's to blame on immigrants *chef kiss*.
"Here are a few maps that illustrate this. Over 1,100 daily record low temperatures have been broken this week alone -- over 1,800 in the last 30 days, along with over 1,100 snow records. The last week of records broken, tied, or approached is shown in this animation from CoolWx.com"
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
You're wrong, cold in winter isn't "just weather," it's a sign the climate is warming.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Jesus, dude, that's sad. Do you spend all day looking for conspiracy web sites? How do you know about so many? Is there a conspiracy search engine somewhere, or something?
I don't respond to AC's.
Just another troll, paid to sow doubt and dissent.
Best to ignore all crap from ACs, even me.
https://www.axios.com/global-h...
Hope we make it to 2020.
The methane is releasing in Siberia now.
It's on, I believe the runaway effect is going on. It's still going to be slow for us as humans, since the world moves at a slower pace.
Shit is hitting the fan, now. Little tiny flecks have already hit the blade, but huge lumps coming soon.
Don't breed, we're going to see some serious shit in the next 20 years. Not 200, the next 20 will be shocking.
They are gay.
is that most of the Republican voters are old and live in states with high humidity and temperatures. So the Climate Change issue is going to solve itself one day by killing enough of the Republican voters to weaken the Republican Party enough for us to be able to do something about Climate Change.
It was pretty funny.
America is on track to meet CO2 reduction goals.
If you truly want to save the planet, protest to China, India, or even Russia...
Now you might not live through the experience, unlike protesting in the U.S. But if you don't try you never cared about the planet anyway.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Can't use nukes as we'd need too many. We need a way to eliminate everyone who isn't white. Cleanse the nations of the world, then colonise with whites.
We need to ensure decent education so we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.
Imagine, a single world of whites, not being dragged down by the others.
There would be NOTHING that could not be achieved. Now we need that genetically modified virus that kills all the non whites.
When it is extremely hot, dress appropriately. Folks wearing suits and ties in 30 - 40 degrees require extra cooling for what benefit? Foolish attire habits from outdated aristocracy. Cut the AC and wear short sleeves at least and set better examples if you are a supposed leader. Underlings have little choice but to follow your stupid conventions. Some may dislike MZ FB but he at least made some effort to buck the suits.
Ahhh old school xenophobia, where everything's to blame on immigrants *chef kiss*.
Well, you're part of the idiots who for decades has been shouting "racism!", "xenophobia!", "Islamophobia", "antisemitism!", "bigotry!", "hate-speech!" and so on like if that mattered a single fuck.
It doesn't.
The truth is lots of places are set on fire whatever forests, cars, immigrants centers, people are shot, people are raped, people are molested, and so on. And it's all because of the massive invasion of shit-immigrants.
Call it whatever you want but it doesn't change anything. They are doing it. Now if you could show how they are behaving better than Swedes then you may actually have an argument but that isn't something you'll never be able to do so ... keep on showing "xenophobia!" I guess.
Ad hominem isn't a valid counter argument though.
You mean we'll have record highs in summer and record lows in winter?
Congratulations. You've just described global warming to a tee.
Is the day I'll believe anthropogenic CO2 is a true problem.
Yeah, all those cars set on fire in Sweden were probably the result of global warming also.
Stop, you're killing me!
Reduced output of solar and wind from the heat is not something any dinosaur news source is willing to write. Or rather not a headline Slashdot moderators would be wiling to bring up.
Because that is your Nuclear Ideology, it is your ism, your belief system that wants to make us believe the sun stops shining and the wind stops blowing when it is hot. Only people who subscribe to your Nuclear Ideology would allow themselves to become stupider the way you want them to.
Solar Thermal is an immediate, viable, long term, economical and technologically underdeveloped base-load replacement for nuclear power. Domestic Solar is the perfect peaking solution to replace nuclear power. Wind is a new type of power generation mechanism with a vastly more dynamic upgrade cycle than anything we've see so far, it has massive promise to replace nuclear power.
It's not too hard to find sources giving the reduced output from PV panels and solar thermal systems in high heat, but that's not headline material for some reason. Maybe it's because we get so little of our energy from solar. But then why do we get so little of our energy from solar? Maybe because when we need it most the power isn't there?
Maybe it's more of your rhetoric. As you said of nuclear "they still produce power" the only difference is solar and wind don't explode and cause mass evacuations like a nuclear plant does when they overheat, they just make less power.
Unlike Nuclear power, wind and solar plants are upgradeable. Combined with IOT wind and solar variations are the most exciting developments that require new types of software systems to manage. Solar and wind are going to be a new source of huge employment sectors for Information Technology folk. I see a lot of new and interesting things.
Unlike Nuclear, coal and everything else developed in the 19th and 20th century that produce heat, solar and wind is a 21st century solution that reduces the heat load of the planet by *extracting* heat from the environment and converting it to electricity.
That's why Solar and Wind should be deployed in much larger ways, the more wind and solar deployed the less grid variation and more heat load removed. The more solar thermal and PV technology development the less we have to rely on yesterday's solutions invented and promoted by self interested people with less knowledge of the Earth's thermal systems.
The challenge of our generation is how we can retire these wasteful throwbacks to the cold war without further disasters and upgrade our energy infrastructure to solar, wind and geothermal solutions. That starts with doing away with obsolete nuclear rhetoric such as yours blindseer, which is kind of like looking at a 60 year old cheerleaders with too much makeup trying to convince everyone they still have the same promise they did when they were teenagers.
That ridiculous mental image is what I suggest your nuclear ideology is.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
"So.. the issue isn't so much climate change as it's the invasion by non-Swedes too here and politicians prioritizing the genocide of the Swedish people and the Muslim and African invasion"
"Ad-hominem"? Jesus fucking Christ dude, you're a walking definition of xenophobia. The fact that you hate being called on it doesn't make any difference.
> Just another troll, paid to sow doubt and dissent.
Nobody pays trolls on slashdot. Trolls have plenty of motives on their own. Don't be idiotic, it makes you look like part of the problem.
Often wrong but never in doubt.
I am Jack9.
Everyone knows me.
"Over 1,100 daily record low temperatures have been broken this week alone -- over 1,800 in the last 30 days, along with over 1,100 snow records. The last week of records broken, tied, or approached is shown in this animation"
"Weather is not climate," indeed.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Record lows worldwide, of just record lows in some small part of the globe (USA)? Record lows are getting increasingly rare worldwide, and the ones in the USA are actually an expected consequence of a (relatively) warm winter Arctic reducing the barriers to the cold air moving south. (I don't understand the physics in detail).
In any case, record warmth in winter rarely gets reported across the globe as it is not an ABSOLUTE record.
Just out of curiosity. . . .
What improvements have you seen over the past say . . . . thirty years or so that you can attribute to Team Blue ?
Non-stop wars
Wages haven't moved
Income Inequality is at an all time high
Financial Crisis / Crash
Germany, Japan, China, India, and a number of 3rd world nations keep adding new coal plants, instead of focusing on AE.
Worse, so many will act like this is OK for all these nations.
We have trump in America, but in spite of him/GOP, our coal consumption and CO2 continues downward (though not as much).
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Lot's actually. Now it's our turn. Maybe more cities will be buried underground? Maybe more efficient water distribution and reuse will be in place? Either way something will have to change, and it will not just be the weather if we want to survive.
http://www.satirewire.com/content1/?p=855
What, like Ken Salazar (as eager to rape the land as James Watt did under Reagan), Hillary Clinton (exported fracking to the world) or Barack Obama (opened up seaboards to drilling, bragged about the US producing oil faster than it could be processed)?
I drank the Global Warming coolaid 10-15 years ago because it's what was taught in school. Since then, no climate change denier has even come close to convincing me otherwise. If you're still a denier you'll be a minority soon enough since it's what the children are being taught now. Then we'll be able to finally fully admit there's a problem.
Hrm. Wouldn't we have a wide spread pattern of heat records if the globe was warming naturally? How does this compare to say, the period from the Little Ice Age to 1940? Obviously, we had a much less robust temperature network before then to observe temperatures, but oh, I don't know, pick 1850-1932, what was the pattern of "record high" temperatures each year during that warming period?
I mean, how can you *not* have more record highs if you're naturally warming?
The problem here is that it seems like the alarmists are taking something that is *necessary* for their hypothesis, and asserting it is *sufficient* in and of itself to prove them right. It's obvious to anyone looking at it from the outside that "118 all time heat records" is not nearly sufficient to make all of the complex and grand claims that humans are causing all global climate change, and that it is going to doom us all to the nether levels of hell at some indeterminate time in the future.
Why not just make the whole argument, rather than making a very, very poor one? Is this just a victory lap, like Trump crowing about 4.1% 2Q growth? Yes, it's *consistent* with his narrative that his tax bill and deregulation is helping the economy, but isn't it true that we would observe the same thing if the underlying economics had nothing to do with his actions?
They're not "all time" heat records. People on Slashdot usually at least pretend to be smarter than that.
Most temperature records only go back a couple hundred years out of the [approx] 6 billion year history of the planet.
No pre-mercury-thermometer record (like tree rings, ice cores, mud, etc) is a calibrated instrument with even 1 degree of accuracy.
One reason it's so hard for the global warming crowd to make any headway in their arguments with people who doubt them is that they so often use dishonest claims and over-the-top apocalyptic rhetoric, and then after insisting climate change is destroying the planet, they excuse themselves as they continue doing the things they claim are killing mother Earth.
If the headline had said "188 locations broke heat records for the past 200 years" or some such thing they would have been more honest and had some credibility. If the people who claim CO2 is a killer would themselves stop drinking carbonated beverages [a totally unnecessary CO2 usage] and traveling in fossil fuel powered vehicles [telephones, e-mails and faxes are fine for communication in a truly threatened planet] and stop using internet and cell phone services that are other than life-saving [services that demand huge power-sucking server farms that are active 24 hours a day 7 days a week just so people can watch a cat video or "like" a moron on Facebook] then perhaps they might have some credibility.
Yeah, casually blaming climate change on Africans and Muslims is totally not what a xenophobe would ever do.
Considering that those two countries have around 7 times the population of the United States - yeah, they get to pollute more. Call us when their per capita pollution exceeds the United States - and when much of their pollution is to produce crap for American consumers.
We literally have no reason ...
Well, some of us clearly don't...
...to believe that any amount of global warming will be a *bad* thing overall, by any economic metric.
(1) Rising sea levels, flooding coastal areas, including most of the world's major cities.
(2) Increased temperatures rendering parts of the world uninhabitable.
(2.1) Newly warmed / Ice free land not immediately suitable for 'easy' intensive agriculture / habitation to replace what's been lost
(3) Increased costs due to extreme weather events.
(4) Increased loss of life (and concomitant costs) due to extreme weather.
Ah wait, the points above are not purely economic. So we needn't worry about them, right?
Anyone who pretends otherwise is extending their confidence into a realm that doesn't deserve it.
Wrong!
Anyone who suggests otherwise is, literally, a sociopath, using false uncertainty to justify the moral vacuum they inhabit.
How does that work? The government tells you something true but because it is from the government it is propaganda and therefore you, what? Don't accept it as true?
So we should go for it. We KNOW one route fucks up (business as usual) so we do and look to see what happens if we avoid the fuck up. You doommongers have no economic model either yet you scream how it will be the end of the civilised western world. Like everything that chances. Pop music, rap, computers, cars...
Is making up a win that never happened the best you got?
Go ahead, find the line and word count there that points you to Mann saying "cold in winter is "just weather"". We'll wait.
Well, you're part of the idiots who for decades has been shouting "racism!", "xenophobia!", "Islamophobia", "antisemitism!", "bigotry!", "hate-speech!" and so on like if that mattered a single fuck.
Yep, people should just shut up and not get uppity. The solution is to either seeth quietly or just let your soul be crushed rather than shout at people being arseholes.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
It's not, nobody said it was...
This guy said it:
https://www.theguardian.com/en...
I fail to find the quote you claim is in there - or was that another straw man you just set on fire?
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
They won't believe that climate change is happening, because their God says it isn't.
Or worse, they believe it helps bring in the Apocalypse - yeah, Jesus time!
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Where we have the largest fire in Sweden three fires started at ~the same time.
In Arboga they think 15 fires was started by someone within two days.
Which he couldn't have done if the forrest weren't so dry.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
With N years of data and an unchanging mean, the probability of a single new record is 1/N.
Sure there is some correlation between records, but this many records indicates a change in the mean.
Beyond the balance of probability and beyond reasonable doubt.
Statistics can provide the probability of such a change -- it's essentially one at this point.
adapt to it, it takes millions of years though so start early.
living in water
Then why did we get snow here this week? First time ever in Sunny Queensland.
Ok, here we have a far left that does not get it. India is likely at the level we all need to be at. China is already way over. Heck, most of Europe is still above where the globe needs to be. Look, the single worst source of Co2 are coal plants. Even China's best coal plants is an absolute disaster in terms of pollution. These need to be stopped all over the world and replaced with AE or nuke power. The reason is that once built, we will certainly allow them to run for 40 years minimum. The second worst source are vehicles, esp general purpose transportation. Thankfully, these are replaced relatively quickly, so as vehicle makers get onboard, and produce these, ppl, and more importantly, companies, will buy these. This will drop co2 in most nations.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
The whinge has ALWAYS been that AGW is never happening, is ending, is inevitable and is a complete lie we're cooling because you nutjobs don't know or care what's going on you HAVE to push there being nothing to do.
And show me the denier predictions that came true. So you MUST be against the hoax BEHIND the AGW denial, yes?
Of course fucking not.
It's always someone else who bears responsibility and needs to change.
I know many people who accept the human role in climate change but they still drive big SUVs, live in big houses, and travel by air.
For most of my life I have tried to be conservative in lifestyle and keep my use of electricity, heat, water, and natural resources to a minimum. I have been into recycling since the first Earth Day. If all the people who claim to be concerned about climate did the same, it would be a huge effect.
Climate is a fucking hoax, lets continue to burn fossil fuels until will drive ourselves to extinction.
China's worst plants still have more environmental safeguards than US plants. and have for years.
Yet you still post the same lies over and over.
American people still use far more coal for their electricity than Chinese or Indians, despite years of decreases and you telling us over and over how many plants are closing.
Depends on the country, in America, even though you use about 6x the electricity of similar countries, electricity is still behind transport for your CO2 because your cars and trucks are even more inefficient than your electricity and households..
Ok, here we have a far left that does not get it. India is likely at the level we all need to be at. China is already way over. Heck, most of Europe is still above where the globe needs to be.
Why do you try so hard to avoid the elephant in the room?
Graph of CO2 polluters
India is at the level you think we need to be at... ok....seems a bit extreme to most people but lets go with it.
China is 'way over'..... ok if you say so....seems to be about the average...
Most of Europe is above, ok it's similar to China so no real reason to single China out other than your hatred of them.
And America?
Did you forget to mention that America is 2-4 times as bad as the countries you are complaining about?
Twice the level of the 'way over' China even.
Close to ten times Indian levels, that you claim is your target.
Why are you not taking America to task?
It's clear you are just anti-China and try to hide as much as possible, the fact your entitled country is a far worse CO2 polluter.
I think that Dilbert got it right -
That denialists are a bunch of PHBs?
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
It wasn't relevant or necessary to dump the whole argument for climate change in that response - just to establish that it's more than isolated weather events.
Sweden is undergoing its worst continuing drought in almost a century. Whenever you see record high temperatures, look for drought. Because thatâ(TM)s how you get to record high temperatures.
Should have called bullshit on the original claim instead. The "40%" figure is based on a 2013 study looking at insect collections at a relatively small number of sites in Europe, most of which were either near or actually ON active farms. Trying to pretend that this is somehow indicative aof a global decline ... that's just retarded.
Hey, idiot. .
Efficient plants REALLY produce that level of pollution. Only a true idiot thinks that
Your link for 'far more coal' shows that CHina shows the number of plants, with a title of CO2 generation. IOW, they do not match up.
More importantly, your data is actually about the number of plants. it shows that China has 4271 plants, with another 815 coming. OTOH, America has 1344 plants, and America has not built a new one in 0ver a decade.
And no, we use about the same amount of electricity as SIMILAR nations. We use less than Canada, Australia, and similar to most of europe, except for UK-germany region. The reason is that they have a very tempered weather. Of course, Western Europe is throwing in AC like no other nation.
Yeah, out of all your lies here and elsewhere, you actually have a decent point on our transportation. The good thing is, that Tesla is pushing America hard to switch to EVs.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
The elephant in the room is NOT America. It is all the nations building out Coal plants. Coal plant will remain for another 40-60 years.
Secondly, Your hatred for America means that you continue to ignore the real issues. Even here, you lie by claiming that America is 2-4x what China is. China's CO2 is MUCH HIGHER than what is reported. Look at OCO2. Once OCO3 hits, real numbers will be posted. Heck, china was caught lying about their amount of coal consumed over the last 50 years and was forced to admit it because of OCO2. But even using these lies hitting your graph, America is slightly above 2x what China has per capita. And if we go look at the right normalization, which is emissions / $ GDP, China is in the bottom 5.
Third, no hatred of CHina. You accuse me of something that is NOT true. I simply point out the issues.
Fourth, America is at a high emissions / person. I have agreed many a times. BUT, America continues to go down. Your nation continues to rise.Worse yet, you are adding massive number of coal plants that will NOT be closed for another 40-60 years. In fact, China will add more coal plants capacity than America currently has, over the next 12 years.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
lol. Never heard that one before. Sadly, It is pretty much spot on.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
You know for a fact that American levels are higher but you never seem to complain about that. Even now you hand wave a bit and claim it's OK because it's 'getting better'.
I don't hate America. I dislike entitled assholes. There is a bit of an overlap between the two ;)
Units please.
AGW is no longer a theory, it's now a religion and as such cannot be questioned.
You can set grass and trees on fire any summer I'd say.
Sure if the rain is falling right then it will be harder but ... we haven't had such summers.
The problem is people are starting fires regardless. That's what make up the largest of the difference.
As for the size of it the number of fires, that Sweden only had two military helicopters available for it and no coast rescue helicopters with hooks and no planes for it and too few hoses and that it's dry combined make it worse. Of course.
I see you're working real hard at disproving the assertion of arrogance/entitlement by continuing to compare emissions by nations, just so you can go on polluting as much as half a dozen Chinese people put together.
It just doesn't work that way. Otherwise....the Vatican gets to pollute just as much as the United States does...but that would clearly be nonsense. And again, how much of that coal power you're complaining about in China is producing consumer products for export to your man cave of entitlement.
Truth-tellers = arseholes?
Even if you choose the word arsehole rather than xenophobic that still doesn't change a single thing.
The only fair counter would be to tell me that I'm wrong and do that based on evidence not just a wish and feelings and values you're holding.
Young children was forced into the water by bad behaving upper teens youths at a bath, a police car had its windows smashed after the police had talked to some people grilling and a police was attacked when telling some youths to pick up their things. .. that's only because the truth is hidden and not because it's not immigrants.
In none of those cases the police and the main-stream media outlet mentioned the ethnicity of the people doing those things but that doesn't mean they didn't had an immigrant background and anyone who knows anything about reality and Sweden can simply assume with great accuracy that they had an immigrant background. It's not typical Swedish behavior and when it happen it's immigrant behavior. Just because you don't give all the true details about something doesn't make it another thing / not happening. Sure with the truth hidden you can't say for sure but
Also when it finally is a white murderer for instance suddenly posting images is just alright because finally you've got a counter-store against the "racist" ideas that only immigrants cause trouble so when there is no image and nothing mentioned it's pretty safe to assume the rest.
Sweden is a dishonest non-democracy ran by traitors and with an ungoing genocide carried out by the ruling elite. That make us a bit less informed and media and politicians and people dishonest/wrong/the truth hidden but .. Yeah. One gotta do the best out of it.
Yeah, casually blaming climate change on Africans and Muslims is totally not what a xenophobe would ever do.
That I haven't done either.
Only straw-men and ad hominem.
Feel free to at any time have an actual valid point.
They aren't welcome here and that may be xenophobic of me and that I have no problem with. I've never claimed they are the leading cause of climate change or worse than us in that regard though. They rape more. They cost more. They commit more heavy crimes. They murder more. They likely set our forests on fire and so on. But unlikely the sub-saharan Africans cause more climate change than Swedes. The Muslims of the middle-east maybe due to better access to oil but maybe not them either. Regardless it's never a claim I've made.
They are unwanted and people cause fires in Sweden and the leading cause of more fires aren't climate change but human behavior.
I'm not arguing I'm xenophobic.
I am.
That is irrelevant for any point I make though.
I don't say Africans are the leading cause of climate change and that white people don't cause any part of it. To claim so would be a false claim and it would be trying to point out some flaw in what I've said even though I've never said it.
You're free to attack what I say but if you do do it with actual valid points rather than just using lies and ad hominem.
Tell were I'm wrong. Which of course would be hard since I'm right and that's kinda all that matter.
This is generally the biggest problem, in the US as well as in Europe: ... This results in us basing our views of a group on what we have heard and seen. Which will be the above media filter bubble.
* For any group, however harmless, there is bound to be a bunch of extreme morons/assholes (and a bunch of extremely fine people), simply because of the Gaussian distribution curve.
* The media simply reports the most extreme cases, because they are by definition the most interesting. Even if they were not interested in profit or amount of viewers, there would be no point in preferring the "meh" cases.
* These two simple things result in us seeing mainly the extremists of a group. Which naturally enrages us the most.
* But our brains are bias machines. Finding patterns, and going with the most likely one, is half their point. We do not check if that person we just met for the first time really exist until we have six sigma certainty. Nor do we check that study we just read ourselves to that certainty. We live our lives based on anecdotal evidence, and have little choice to do it in another way too.
* So in the end, we see a group as extreme because of a small fraction being extreme; become more extreme as a result; and others see our group(s) as extreme; and becomes also more extreme as a result. Ending us up in a vicious extremization cycle, fueled only by how we humans naturally act when society gets so big that you need media instead of getting to know groups personally.
My solution would be to have less children, to prevent overpopulation, and the vast amounts of problems that come with it. And to return to city states, with friendly terms between each other, but nobody forcing anybody into any general (national) rules.
Which, luckily, is also exactly what is happening now. The most civilized and well-off states have the fewest children. And the EU is breaking apart, and its successor in spirit, namely TTIP/CETA (like TPP/NAFTA/etc) only went through after a large amount of deserved crippling.
So I'm pretty relaxed. I'll just eat my popcorn, and watch it unfold, giving it a nudge here and there, for the next decades, or centuries.
Learn to read idiot that was CO2 not number of plants. You have seen it many times before and no doubt will again.
You use more than twice the EU electricity consumption.
Asia is installing far more AC, so bzzzt wrong again.
Your repeated lies and failures are clear for all to see.
Not as hard as China is pushing to EV's
While I agree that too many goddamn humans is the core problem... ... you have not made a valid chain of reasoning, and don't even seem to know what "proof" actually means, and that it is not attainable for real-world situations outside of math. (The best you can get is statistically solid peer-reviewed evidence.)
You would at least start out with things that we all agree with. (Paradigms / axioms.)
Then you would have to make a logically flawless chain of reasoning, based on *only* those, and ending up with your conclusion.
Since you did not of that, there is nothing to "disprove" in the first place. Your comment was essentially equivalent to a completely empty comment.
But nice try. I usually only see religious nutjobs attempt to turn around the burden of proof, in the hope that some morons will fall for it.
Like this, you're more like a false flag agent. You make "your" and my side look bad. So please stop it.
"In northern California 38,000 people fled their homes as an 80,900-acre wildfire spread through the Shasta-Trinity area. Reuters reports the wildfire was caused "by hot, dry weather and high winds"
Actually, the fire was caused by an automobile that experience an undefined malfunction. The fire is exacerbated by the hot weather and high winds. So much for accuracy in journalism these days.
They mention having to power down the nuke plants in Europe including German(y). The last time I checked, Germany shut down all of its nuclear power plants by decree after Fukushima, so Germany didn't have to shut down a thing. Besides that, since they shut down their nuke plants, they have been buying power from other countries that use nat gas fired plants. Not that I doubt climate change, but when the sky is falling group throws in fake facts, it is understandable why people are sceptical. Ooops, someone cried wolf again.
Life is in a state of dynamic equilibrium, it both blows and sucks
So? He's a hypocrite. As are we all.
CO2, atmosphere...
How about CO2 , oceans?
Ocean acidification, I pity our nonruler crustaceans...
You warming alarmists are so stupid, you can't even construct a URL properly!
No need to fix it, as I have no need to read any other your blather further when you can't even realize how efficient Americans are compared to the rest of the world, woefully behind us in technology.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"It's more of an immigration problem than a climate problem."
Shrug emoji to you, you racist piece of shit.
The only fair counter would be to tell me that I'm wrong and do that based on evidence not just a wish and feelings and values you're holding.
Bullshit. You haven't made any concrete claims. All you've done is whine about people who call out racism etc.
The rest of your post is just rambling.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
In the United States, the most recent decade (2000-2010) was the nation’s warmest on record. Record-breaking high temperatures are now outnumbering record lows by an average decadal ratio of 2:1. Record highs are occurring more often than record lows due to climate change.
In a stable climate, the ratio of new record highs to new record lows is approximately even. However in our warming climate, record highs have begun to outpace record lows, with the imbalance growing for the past three decades. This trend is one of the clearest signals of climate change that we experience directly.
Wishful thinking.
Listen, Al scored 4 touchdowns in 1 game for Polk High. He was the greatest high school football player to never go pro.
That's not any kind of statistical analysis.
It's called an analogy, maybe you need a car one.
???????. Those are the best two sources you could find?
Yes, I've read the IPCC report. And I have no respect for people who only get their knowledge from emotion pieces.like this one. Less respect for people who don't recognize it.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Holy shit, that was stupid. Check the headlines, there's tons of heat related deaths during these heatwaves. Not to speak of forest fires. Seriously, that's the dumbest thing I've read in a while. I hope you don't have a decision making job.
My computer tech curiosity doesn't give you any more chances. Why don't you change your name to weather dot, or socialist dot or millennial dot or something that doesn't imply you have a primary focus on computer technology. Let a real tech column have the slashdot.org domain. sheesh. No more wasting time here.
It's SUCH a relief that global warming doesn't exist. It's a hoax invented by the Chinese. Oh, and also by Obama, who went back in time and forged his own birth certificate. ;)
Where do these Solar Reserve plants exist? That's a website giving a proposal, as far as I can tell these solar thermal storage sites do not exist, none have been built.
On the other hand we've seen hundreds of nuclear power plants built. We've seen high temperature reactors built as prototypes, which would be well suited for molten salt thermal energy storage if we'd only dust off the old plans and update them a bit. If that solar thermal storage technology checks out then that leaves a wide door open for a nuclear reactor to step in and take over that space.
In the end you are comparing future solar technology to nuclear technology of 50 years ago. How about you compare modern existing solar power to modern existing nuclear power? Why bring up the RBMK at Chernobyl? Or BWR at Fukushima? Those were out dated second generation reactors. No one builds those any more. How about comparing existing solar power to third generation reactors that have been recently constructed?
If you want to bring up future solar power technology then compare that to fourth generation nuclear, like molten salt reactors. If you need to point to nonexistent solar power plants to make your case for solar power then you have a very weak case. If you need to bring up 30 year old nuclear power accidents to argue against future nuclear power reactors then that is also a weak case.
It's actually pretty well known that we're in the middle of an ice age. And the Earth is actually at distance that, if it didn't have an atmosphere, we'd all be freezing to death, (besides suffocating from the lack of oxygen). The problem isn't with the Earth, which can survive all our puny attempts at climate change. But us, we can't survive a difference of a mere few degrees. So this isn't about saving life on the planet. But saving ourselves from our own stupidity.
And the Climate Deniers continue to deny!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
Run away! Run away! Give the democrats more money, their hot air is changing the climate of the whole planet!
You can set grass and trees on fire any summer I'd say.
Sure if the rain is falling right then it will be harder but ... we haven't had such summers.
The problem is people are starting fires regardless. That's what make up the largest of the difference.
Ah, so you confirm that the problem isn't immigrants setting fire to the woods, it's that people start fires despite the drought cause by Global Warming. Thank you.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Should have called bullshit on the original claim instead. The "40%" figure is based on a 2013 study looking at insect collections at a relatively small number of sites in Europe, most of which were either near or actually ON active farms. Trying to pretend that this is somehow indicative aof a global decline ... that's just retarded.
Hey idiot. just look outside if there are less insects outside than 20 years ago. I call you are the bull.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
I am an American, and I do believe that we are one of the greatest nations on the planet. We were seen as leaders of the world in the past. We have done a lot of great things for our country, other countries, and the world. We could be leading the charge to reverse climate change (don't call it global warming, because the mouth-breathers invariably spout "it's not warm out, it's snowing!" or other mindless drivel). But instead, we are denying it, and we are making our population more stupid and reviled globally than ever before. As a country we've lost the respect of the world, and deservedly so. It's quite embarrassing, and I can only hope that we will realize the truth sooner rather than later so we can work with the rest of the world to lengthen our species' stay on the planet.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Why bother mentioning America in there?
It was about nations being too high and that we all have to work on bringing it down.
So it's about nations being too high. And yet you focus on the nations like China and EU that are at half the levels of America.
Then you claim you left them out on purpose because 'everyone knows they are high'.
What a joker you are.
America has been going in the right direction
And then your classic hand wave free pass to America. Just as you always do.
Yet 30 years of 'decreases' and you are still twice as high as everyone you are complaining about.
Why are Republicans and climate change deniers sitting on their butts? Even people with me are some what stupid. America is about 20 years behind. When will the politicians that is supposed to represent the citizens going to take action?
I read these articles, and the ones in the '90s as well. I'm not convinced yet this isn't a cyclical thing. Keep in mind the Permian extinction from 250 million years ago. No people were involved.
However, there was a great article yesterday I read in New York Times, which was updated from a 2017 version. It was discussing how the "wet bulb" temperature will cause humans and other mammals to die off faster than ever before, especially in the tropics.
The question I always come back to is - what do we do? Do we suddenly turn off every greenhouse gas emitting vehicle and machine? Do we plow over our roads and cities with grassland to absorb CO2 and make more O2? Do we kill off 3b to 4b people to make room for those left?
Not an easy answer.
The Kai's Semi-Updated Website Thingy
Yawn.. more dribble from the Church of Runaway Global Warming...
Are you really suggesting that you can eliminate heatwaves and forest fires?
Heatwaves and forest fires have literally existed since heat and forests existed. To imagine that you can use the number of forest fires this year, or any year in the future, as a proxy for the overall state of the economy, is ludicrous - and that's assuming you can identify any sort of trend in the number of global forest fires :)
Again, there's no forest fire economic model that can hindcast back to 1918, nor forecast into 2118 with any sort of accuracy - even if you stipulate that forest fires will increase because of increased average global temperature.
Thank you Dr Science for that helpful correction.
Translation: "Lalala, I can*t hear you." Sing on, dumbird.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
30 years of decreases? By who? Why do you lie so often.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Oh, I heard you. I just couldn't believe someone on Slashdot would be stupid enough to use "hurr durr look outside!" as evidence of an 80% global decline in insect species. That's more the kind of thing one would expect to read on a mommy blog.
I'll just assume you're pregnant and being hormonal.
By you moron. You like to claim America decreased the same % as Europe since the 80's while China and India have increased since the 80's.
Did you forget? Or just lying as usual?
Well, I didn't want to tax you with having to look at the scientific evidence because you are obviously too stupid to understand it. Proven by saying "you can't trust your own eyes - or anybody else's, nor their fly traps" approach to science.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Yeah, it's called SlashDot.org
Ah, so you confirm that the problem isn't immigrants setting fire to the woods, it's that people start fires despite the drought cause by Global Warming. Thank you.
No I'm not.
I'm saying plenty of fires has been voluntarily made by people. As long as those people aren't caught we don't know whom each individual is. But as we know we import our enemies by the tens of thousands and that they are fine stealing our stuff, robbing our elders, raping the women, murdering people, setting cars, schools on fire, attacking our emergency services, setting immigration homes on fire and so on it's safe to assume it's our enemy which had found yet another way of attacking us.
I know you prefer ignorance and denial over common sense and acceptance of the world as it is. But that doesn't change the fact that they have shown a lot of times how they are totally fine attacking both us and our property.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/...
It's close to risk free to set Sweden on fire.
Here were I live the closest public grill had at first one sign warning about not using it in Arabic but someone removed that one so it got another one and then a second one of which one has been destroyed again. I haven't seen anyone use that grill since they popped up then again I haven't been watching. But just ~20 meters from there there's a black zone in the forest along the walking past where part of it has burned and 1-2 months ago there was another black spot around the same walking past in the same forest but at another place maybe 300 meters or so from here.
Cars has burned at my closest parking lot multiple time, 1-2 weeks ago one person was driving a car violently into a beam holding up the car parking roof multiple times and threatened a woman with a knife to her throat, the centrum building was set on fire and the store damaged a lot, the community youth center they tried to lit on fire, the care center has burning stuff thrown inside too, I've walked past the school as a moped was burning there, the sort-your-trash-building on the parking lot has been set on fire, my bike was stolen, before that it had the front wheel stolen, my cellar storage has been broken into at-least 6 times in a bit over 1 year, at a party near by a person had his hand chopped off by a sword, supposedly my neighbor drugged and had sex with young girls, I know of just one murder here for the time I've lived here but that doesn't mean there has only been one. That one I wouldn't know about unless it happened just outside the court my friend lived at and he heard the shot.
Maybe ignorance feel like bliss for you but it's stupid and dangerous.