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The Ampex Sign Is Coming Down (fastcompany.com)

harrymcc writes: If you ever watched anything on videotape, you have Silicon Valley pioneer Ampex -- which invented the technology -- to thank. And for years, the company's vintage sign has stood alongside Highway 101 as a tribute to its historical significance. But Stanford University, which owns the land the sign sits on, is in the process of dismantling it -- an act which Redwood City could have prevented but didn't. I wrote about this dismaying example of cultural shortsightedness at Fast Company.

153 comments

  1. That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People don't care what other people care about.

    1. Re:That's what it is by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People and organizations do important things all the time, much with a long range impact on the world. But for the most part it will go unnoticed and forgotten in history, say for a vague footnote in a research paper, if lucky.

      Also if you are studying the history of something you will often find, that it wasn't made in a vacuum, or out of the blue. However it was an idea built upon previous ideas from different people and organizations.

      The Ampex sign, is a local landmark. While Ampex may had done some important innovation, I wouldn't deem it historic, worthy of presentation. Landmarks change. The blue barn was just painted red, The sports stadium had changed sponsors. Just because something is well known or had done important things, doesn't mean it needs to be preserved for prosperity.

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    2. Re:That's what it is by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      My feelings are: why can't Ampex put their advertising sign on their own building?

      Stanford shouldn't be beholden to advertise some private company for them. Surely there are better landmarks around there than a billboard.. As you said, not worthy of historical preservation. Sure, take a photo of it and put it in a film museum, but no need to keep the sign up.

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    3. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should set it up on Black's Beach. In a few decades naked people there will look at it like it was just another statue in "Planet of The Apes".

    4. Re:That's what it is by lgw · · Score: 1

      Are you paid by the comma?

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    5. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Just because something is well known or had done important things, doesn't mean it needs to be preserved for prosperity."

      How very true!

      I mean - History - Bah, who needs it? Not like it's important or anything.

      Seriously. if people forget history, what's the worst that could happen? That it repeats itself?

    6. Re:That's what it is by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      No that isn't what I meant.
      History is important. However we cannot and shouldn't preserve all historic things.

      200 years in the future. People see an Ampex sign? They will go what is that, some crazed historian will tell about magnetic media.
      So Rust on Scotch Tape, Got it.

      Now what history needs more then a random sign, is basically the archives of the R&D work. Vs. a Helvetica font logo like all others on a road.

      I live in a Historic Town, a lot of historic buildings, however very few of them kept their old logos. And the ones that did, probably had been erased then repopulated again to look like it.

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    7. Re:That's what it is by Desler · · Score: 1

      And what doom will we face by this sign going down? What historical importance does the sign hold?

    8. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

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    9. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About as much as the Citgo sign in Boston I'd guess.

      Which Boston is keeping.

    10. Re: That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Itâ(TM)s not important. Itâ(TM)s the sign for an outmoded private company. Itâ(TM)s not history. Itâ(TM)s garbage.

    11. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miserly with jello, but extravagant with commas.

    12. Re:That's what it is by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      Just what crucial information will be lost in time by the removal of this sign from the side of the 101 freeway? What important historical event are we doomed to repeat because of the removal of a corporate logo that the corporation that owns the mark doesn't even give a shit if it's there or not?

      This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot, and doesn't deserve to have anything said about it, other than it being a footnote of history - Ampex used to be here, when they did something significant in advancing the state of the art in audio and video recording technology.

      Now it's just a hunk of metal that past and present owners can't give a fuck about.

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    13. Re:That's what it is by pjwhite · · Score: 2

      I drive past this sign fairly regularly and always liked the fact that it remained the same as I remember it from when I was a kid in the 1970s driving up 101 with my family. I'll be a little bit sad that a landmark from my younger days is gone, but not heartbroken.
      What really makes me sad is the loss of Docktown Marina, on the other side of the freeway, where houseboat residents are being evicted. The Docktown Marina sign is still there, though not for long.

    14. Re:That's what it is by AlanObject · · Score: 1

      I drive past this sign fairly regularly

      I do as well. Actually I drive to the site several times a month. But the reason I go is to drive my wife to the Stanford Health clinic which was built on the property and now is in the process of greatly expanding. Given that her chemo seems to have saved her life I am OK with taking the sign down to get more facility to save others in similar situation.

    15. Re:That's what it is by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

      People don't care what other people care about.

      People care about what other people care about enough to PAY for.

      How much are YOU willing to pay Stanford University to keep the sign up? Do you have ANY IDEA what the cost of land in Silicon Valley is?

      The Ampex operation there is gone. The site is now one of the major multi-spcialized-clinic complexes of the Stanford Hospital. (The sleep clinic, where I had my severe sleep apnea diagnosed and treated, is one of them.) What are they expected to do if they need more room to treat more sick people?

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    16. Re:That's what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Stanford University need to pay for the sign to be there? Are they going to build something right on top of it with no possibility of that something being somewhere else?

    17. Re:That's what it is by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Historic in that it really was the first big high tech company in the Bay Area that wasn't a government contractor. Also that sign had been prominent along Highway 101 for half a century.

    18. Re:That's what it is by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Does Stanford University need to pay for the sign to be there? Are they going to build something right on top of it with no possibility of that something being somewhere else?

      No clue.

      My wife's a historian and we love to look at the old stuff - ghost towns, historic structures, "old roads" where newer highway alignments or freeway bypasses carry the current traffic, etc.

      But we realize that it costs to keep this stuff in repair, and that keeping it all around for posterity would mean posterity would have a shortage of resources, because the whole world, including all the valuable and useful stuff, would be locked up and turned into previous generatons' attics.

      The Ampex sign was sowing its age - big time - for the last couple decades. With nobody willing to pay for its preservation and restoration - including paying the current owners for taking its value from them - it doesn't get preserved. Sad, but real-world.

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  2. Cultural shortsightedness by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is a vast overestimate of the sign's importance. It's nothing more than a bloody advertisement, and we need fewer ads in our life, not more.

    1. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0

      Few people probably know about Ampex anyway. The sign is hardly a landmark of cultural significance like the Hollywood sign... and even that almost fell victim to neglect.

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    2. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I would mod you up. It's a fucking sign, not some precious landmark. Maybe people in the "biz" actually knew what it was about, but to me it's just another garish glowing sign blocking the view.

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    3. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      is a vast overestimate of the sign's importance. It's nothing more than a bloody advertisement, and we need fewer ads in our life, not more.

      TFA even says its going into storage if someone wants ot, surely if it was a real item of cultural significance he could do a crowdfund to buy it and display it wherever, maybe donate it the lourve or something. He doesn't seem interested in the notion he might be able to buy it himself. But then again as you say, it's an advert so there are probably rules about that sort of thing.

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    4. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      There are far more important landmarks that have been destroyed. For over a century, many statues in the Southern United States honoured soldiers who served the Confederate States of America in the Civil War and the Confederate leaders. SJWs got butthurt and destroyed part of our American cultural heritage. We lost far more with the destruction of those statues and desecrated memorials to those soldiers, yet people seem okay with it. This is just a damn sign. It pales in comparison to the statues. Who cares?

    5. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are ignoring its great beauty, akin to Michaelangelo's David. Oh, wait.

    6. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Hollywood sign was put up to promote real estate in 'Hollywoodville.' Maybe it should come down, too.

    7. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      No, fuck the Hollywood sign. It's an eyesore.

    8. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by kelarius · · Score: 1

      I sure as hell didn't know what Ampex is, nor had I known anything about the sign, someone seems to have forgotten to tell the rest of the world about its cultural significance. A quick googling also showed that the sign looked worn and kinda crappy now so from an outsider's perspective, good riddance

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    9. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Tx · · Score: 1

      I can see that the company itself has historical significance, but it still exists, and FTA "The Ampex sign is going into storage in case somebody wants it. (The current incarnation of Ampex wasn’t interested.)". If Ampex itself isn't interested in the sign, then it's indeed probably time to let it go.

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    10. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by houghi · · Score: 1

      Partly it did. It used to be Hollywoodland.

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    11. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer it's original name, Hollywoodland Kingdom.
      Can't beat the originals.

    12. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody celebrates losers. You lost, time to get over it.

    13. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Nidi62 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are far more important landmarks that have been destroyed. For over a century, many statues in the Southern United States honoured soldiers who served the Confederate States of America in the Civil War and the Confederate leaders. SJWs got butthurt and destroyed part of our American cultural heritage. We lost far more with the destruction of those statues and desecrated memorials to those soldiers, yet people seem okay with it. This is just a damn sign. It pales in comparison to the statues. Who cares?

      Weren't a lot of those statues actually put up in the 40s, 50s, or 60s? Hell, Stone Mountain in Georgia wasn't even completed until 1972! What was the big thing going on around then? Oh, yeah, the Civil Rights Movement. I'm all for statues honoring war dead, but those memorials don't need to be scattered all over the place; they should be in museums, Confederate cemeteries, or parks specifically for the purpose of Civil War remembrance (like Stone Mountain or battlefields). And I say this as a born and bred Southerner that has a history degree and even worked in a Civil War museum. This modern obsession with the Confederacy has gotten out of hand and is all driven by politics.

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    14. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Sique · · Score: 1
      To be a sign doesn't exclude the possibility to be a landmark.

      Those attributes are not mutually exclusive. If you can tell from the sight of a sign that you are at a certain place makes this sign a landmark.

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    15. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I prefer it's original name, Hollywoodland Kingdom.
      Can't beat the originals.

      Meh, "The United Realms of Hollywoodland Kingdom By Sea" would have been a better name.

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    16. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Give it a few days and I will have forgotten who Ampex is again!

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    17. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Sique · · Score: 1

      If a sign is a landmark, it's value lies in the fact, that it marks a certain land. If you remove it from the land it stands on, it loses the very property that makes it valuabe. So I can understand AMPEX that they don't want the disassembled sign on their premises, as there it is just a disassembled sign, not a landmark.

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    18. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Then by your definition we should NEVER EVER remove ANY signs, because to someone somewhere they are a landmark.

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    19. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between original purpose, and attained cultural status. And you know it.

      The Hollywood sign has taken on far more significance through it's history than this sign - it's a true landmark, and an iconic image that practically everyone in the developed world recognizes instantly. The sign in question in TFA is the equivalent of keeping up one of those 80-foot-tall Denny's signs at a freeway offramp long after the Denny's has been torn down because Steve McQueen once had a scram slam there on his way to a movie shoot.

      Nobody gives a shit who Ampex was, and that they used to have a location there. Including Ampex themselves.

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    20. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the original Hollywood sign had nothing to do with the
      infant movie industry - it was an ad for a housing development.

      CAP === 'gasped'

    21. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't give a shit about the hollywood sign. It means nothing to me, so take it down.

    22. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Just let it decay from the wind and weather. Much more evocative that way.

    23. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer it's original name, Hollywoodland Kingdom.
      Can't beat the originals.

      Meh, "The United Realms of Hollywoodland Kingdom By Sea" would have been a better name.

      And I prefer El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles, but I never get that either.

    24. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Desler · · Score: 1

      And how is it a culturally significant landmark?

    25. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of how they tore down the original Hanna Barbera Studios several years ago.

    26. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I prefer El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles, but I never get that either.

      El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles

      FTFY

    27. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, except there is $$$ involved with the Hollywood sign.

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    28. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Sique · · Score: 1

      No. You can actually remove landmarks. Then that part of the land is no longer marked by the sign.

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    29. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Sique · · Score: 1

      Oh, that was not a given. I just wanted to point out that "being a sign" and "being a landmark" are not the distinguished properties the great-grandparent postulated.

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    30. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hollywood itself should be nuked.

    31. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think signs can have cultural significance. In Minneapolis we have a Grain Belt sign that's been there for decades, and is seen as an icon. Signs can become important since they mark what a place once was.

      We have a throw-away culture. I doubt there's anywhere that throw-away culture is more prevalent than Silicon Valley, which prides itself on destroying the past and replacing it with it's own "2.0 future". You've gone a bit far in that mentality, and the rest of the country is getting a bit tired of it.

      I'll readily admit this can go too far, and things can go a bit wonky and weird. In Minneapolis some people got all weepy when an old Arby's sign came down earlier this year. It was an old sign from another era... but even I thought it was terribly odd when people had a candle-lite vigil over the damn thing.

    32. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those traitors, who fought to preserve slavery, deserve a different kind of monument.

      Take down the confederate statues. Grind them to powder. Mix them into porcelain.

      And make confederate traitor monument toilets of them, to be placed in public rest areas throughout the country, for Americans to properly celebrate their legacy by shitting on them.

      This sign marked human progress. Those statues mark the worst of humanity.

    33. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1, Troll

      And clearly as you are the Emperor of All the Things, what you give a shit about (or don't) is the final say in what actually happens. All hail the Emperor!

      No wait, you are the Emperor of the Square Root of Jack Shit, and nobody cares what you think.

      The sign stays.

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    34. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by flabman · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid it also demonstrates a lack of understanding as to what constitutes culture.

    35. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I think we are quibbling over the definition of landmark.
      Let's google that quick...

      an object or feature of a landscape or town that is easily seen and recognized from a distance, especially one that enables someone to establish their location.

      So you are quite correct in your interpretation, however, the second definition of it is

      an event or discovery marking an important stage or turning point in something.

      which is what the article is referring to, to which I say that I have never heard of Ampex before, so how does this fit the second definition? It's like saying we should never remove advertisements for VHS.

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    36. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I think we are quibbling over the definition of landmark.

      Actually you're quibbling over the meaning of a landmark, not the definition.

      A sign can certainly be a landmark, but so can many other things, even a distinctive tree.
      The meaning part, significance or necessity of said landmark, is more the determining factor on if it should be removed or maintained.

      For example an official street sign placed by the city is also a landmark, and required for finding a road, so is important that it be there.
      A distinctive tree at the same street corner could also be a landmark, but would be redundant and likely not used by more than a tiny number of people. The rest of us wouldn't care about that being there.

      In this case a group of people are claiming this sign is significant to them due to what it represents.
      They claim it is significant enough to be maintained, but the rest of us, not so much.

      In reality these types of things do tend to come down to how many people want it kept vs those that want it removed.

      Imagine trying the same with the hollywood hills sign though, a much much larger group of people would likely be against removing that, but in essence for the same reason, because it has significance to culture.

      To be honest I would never have imagined enough people would care about a VHS company sign to even make the news. But I still wouldn't imagine enough people to care about the thing to stop it being taken down.

    37. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh but you are the emperor?

    38. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whooooooooosh you little selfish cunt

    39. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you've never heard of Ampex, you know little of history and probably technology in general. That, however, doesn't mean there aren't those who have a broader and deeper knowledge and understand the historical significance of Ampex both to the entertainment industry and the Silicon Valley.

      Most ignorant people don't know much of anything about history. That, however, is not a reason to raze all the museums worldwide and turn them in to strip malls with yet another Charbucks in them.

    40. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a bit worn, but could probably have been easily restored. Last time I was close up to it (at the adjacent Stanford facility where the ugly parking lot has sprung from the ground - far uglier than that sign even in its faded state) about a month ago one of the letters (the "P") on the south-east side was missing its "plastic", and I think a letter on the other side suffered the same fate - but other than that there didn't appear to be any substantial damage.

      I wonder if Stanford is going to take advantage of "grandfathering" of old signs so they can stick up a big "Stanford" sign that they wouldn't be allowed to do if the sign was new. (Sort of what Santana Row did with their tall sign that used to be, IIRC, a Chevy dealer sign).

      To those of us who were born in the Bay Area in the 1950's, this sign definitely is a landmark of historical significance - in part this is because there are so few remaining original vestiges of the boom times in the Silicon Valley left.

      But, it's Stanford's property and at least if some responsible party wants the sign to display it somewhere else it sounds like Stanford may be open to that.

    41. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's also a piece of history. It's the start of high tech in the Silicon Valley area. The modern nerds seem to have zero interest in history anymore. And there's barely any silicon companies left as most high tech companies in the area are really in advertising and social media.

      I worked across the street from the sign for 7 years in buildings that I presume used to be Ampex. So it's sad that it's all been torn down now.

    42. Re:Cultural shortsightedness by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Even if they don't, people *should* know about Ampex. Especially if they're engineers in Silicon Valley. History is important.

    43. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Oh, so you've never heard of Stone Mountain, Georgia? Don't forget all those statues to confederate war criminals that were erected in the twentieth century as a reminder of white supremacy so that minorities wouldn't get too uppity.

    44. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      No, you don't have it just right. These statues were put up long after the war was over, in the twenthieth century. They were not erected as war memorials, they were put up in order to promote white supremacy and as a reminder to minorities that they should not assume that they were equals. Stone Mountain was started initially to explicitly to honor the KKK, though it was redone after being started and morphed into a civil war design it was still intended to be a racist monument by the designers and builders.

      The leaders of the confederacy were absolutely pro-slavery without any doubt, they wrote down that they felt the reasons for the war were about preserving slavery. It was only after the war that propaganda turned this into a war to preserve their way of life (never mind that their way of life was as slave owners). These evil men do not need to be celebrated. Modern day bozos may call this "SJW" in an attempt to hide their racism.

    45. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      There was a lot of lies that Southerners told themselves over time and taught their children as well. Many of them honestly think the war was about preserving a way of life and that the confederate flag is about "heritage". And they taught themselves to look the other way when someone is beaten or lynched, and they taught themselves to rationalize Jim Crow laws. Overall, they never really accepted that the South was in the wrong in the Civil War, to many it's a chip they've held on their shoulders for 150 years.

    46. Re: Cultural shortsightedness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I don't like that one.

  3. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about some road or other where we put up giant advertising signs of (significant but) dead companies?

    AMPEX next to d|i|g|i|t|a|l next to [||] DRI next to /|\ ATARI next to C= next to ...

    1. Re: I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah let us put that outside your bedroom window.

      Someone taking down a shitty sign for a dead company?
      Good.

      This is no more news for nerds or stuff that matters than the trash truck showing up yesterday to haul away my garbage.

    2. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft? Sorry wishful thinking...

    3. Re:I for one... by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      Actually I think that might make for a rather neat attraction; especially given American's historic car culture.

      I think it would be pretty neat if someone 1) bought some land in the AZ desert (affordable and the climate will keep the signs for deteriorating) 2) paved 20 or 40 miles of road thru it 3) Acquired historic signage from culturally significant organizations defunct and not 4) Made one of the GPS phone apps that reads out a little historic information about each sign when you get near it for people to download. 5) Charged a little toll to support / profit on the thing for folks that want to drive down it.

      Wish I had the capital

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    4. Re: I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the Neon Museum in Las Vegas.

  4. Cutting edge by hackertourist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    About 25 years ago, I worked for a radio station as a sound engineer. They used open-reel tape decks as their main recording medium, and we had loads of Ampex 456 reels in use.
    Now most tape manufacturers sold their tape on plastic reels. Ampex however used reels with aluminium flanges. Because we were always in a hurry when doing live radio, we engineers had the habit of braking the reels by hand when rewinding them. When doing that on a plastic spool, the worst that could happen was overheated fingers from the friction. On the Ampex reels however you had to beware of the 3 large holes in the flange; if you caught one of those, the aluminium would cut right through your fingers.

    1. Re: Cutting edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your meds, Fred.

    2. Re:Cutting edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the guy who knows what Ampex is, without using wikipedia.

      We have here a bona fide Ampex user -- even had a pro tip a la Martha Stewart, how best to use 'em for slicin' and dicin'.

    3. Re:Cutting edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my time at a radio station in college (i.e. not 'pro' because I was paying for school rather than being paid for the job), I don't remember anybody slicing a finger on the the reels. But that's probably because the braking on *real Ampex* machines, which we had a couple of in a rack in the control room for the live studio, was very quick. Hit stop during fast wind and movement would stop within 1/2 second. Another thing I remember about those old decks: you had to manually open the gate over the heads before fast-winding in order to lift the tape off the heads. We were severely chastised if we didn't do that because of the severe head wear that otherwise resulted (no budget for repairs/maintenance). Funny - I had a cheap Sony deck at home at the time where you also had to manually remove the tape from the heads before doing a long fast wind (though obviously not as fast as the Ampex), for the same reason. Most consumer and semi-pro good decks by that time (early 1970s) had discovered the ability to have tape lifters work automatically...

    4. Re:Cutting edge by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      I'm another who knows what Ampex means. My father worked for the BBC engineering dept in the 1950's and was closely involved in developing VERA, the BBC's own video recorder. It recorded linearly using huge high-speed tape reels. However the Ampex spinning head technology, developed about the same time, was adopted instead as it allowed a slow tape speed and smaller reels. VERA was scrapped but I still have bits of it at home, and there is a reel that my father probably made in the London Science Museum.

    5. Re:Cutting edge by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      We had Studer PR99s. The brakes were probably worn - dynamic braking (by switching from REW to FF) was faster than just hitting STOP.
      These decks lifted the heads automatically (or rather, they lifted the tape away from the stationary heads), but still there were noticeable grooves in the heads because the decks were used constantly.

  5. It's ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They'll get round to using it again one day. Just like all those VHS tapes in my cupboard!

  6. Landmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the term "landmark" mean anything to you clods? I worked for an Ampex spinoff (Accom) back in the late 90s, so of course the sign means something to me. Millennials!

    1. Re: Landmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's show some respect for history. Remove the sign and put a giant rebel flag in its place.

    2. Re: Landmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes let's do that, because California was so instrumental in the US Civil War. You're just proving my point, clod. If it weren't for Ampex, most of the Silicon Valley companies would probably be located in New Jersey near Bell Labs.

    3. Re:Landmark by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      My father was a truck driver for over 40 years. When teaching me how to dive as a kid he would state Landmarks change, street name change, route numbers same.

      Just because it may mean something to you, what does it mean to society. A lighted sign with boring Helvetica Text like all other corporate logos.

      Heck where I work, I am near a building with a 20 foot tall Nipper (the RCA Dog) on top. Now that is a landmark. For people who don't know what RCA is or what they did, they will still go, look a big dog. Still there is discussion every decade or so, weather or not to keep the dog. (Mostly because the building it is on is actually very ugly.)

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    4. Re:Landmark by wooferhound · · Score: 1

      I can't see it from Alabama . . .

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    5. Re:Landmark by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2

      You can't see anything from Alabama - it's been proven by modern science. It's sort of like there not really being a South Dakota. I mean, anyone who's seen North Dakota knows you only need ONE Dakota and they made up the other one. And don't get me started on Indiana.

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      That is all.
    6. Re:Landmark by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Then go buy it. It's going into storage.

      Oh, doesn't mean that much to you now, does it, Anonymous Coward?

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    7. Re:Landmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to hear that you're stuck in Smalbany.

    8. Re:Landmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I duno where you learned to drive, but where I did, route numbers and exit numbers change all the time. But now we live in an age of Google maps, so the map usually gets updated. (OpenSteetMap usually gets updated first.)

      Though, I am 100% behind the exit number change. Instead of numbered exits (with ABCD when the insert one in between), its by mile-marker.

    9. Re:Landmark by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Interstate exits actually are numbered by mile marker. Go over a state border on a main (1 or 2 digit interstate route) and the exit numbering resets all of a sudden, because the mile markers are measured from state borders.

      This is why in cities you have exit 12A 12B 12C etc - they all exist within road mile 12.

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    10. Re: Landmark by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Technically I think Stanford was the most influential about this, and probably Shockley being at Stanford. But Ampex was a big place for engineers that wasn't a defense contractor and it probably made it much more likely to see the area as a viable place for technology, and an alternative to the tech hubs on the east coast.

  7. Take a picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll be great for a coffee table book 20 years from now.

    (... assuming anyone still publishes books anymore.)

  8. Crappy advertising sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Harry, why don't you get the shitty advertising sign and put it up in your back yard if you love it so much? Literally no-one gives a shit about this sign except you.

  9. Bloohoohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some symbol of capitalism is coming down! Oh no! What a blow to Western culture! My tears may never cease. How short-sighted we are!

    1. Re: Bloohoohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iphone your posting with and the Starbucks your in are symbols of capitalism too

    2. Re: Bloohoohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And?

    3. Re: Bloohoohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your inability to use contractions correctly is a symbol of your ignorance.

      Your point?

  10. Not so fast to discard tape technology by deviated_prevert · · Score: 2
    As miniature mechanical devices advance so could the medium(s) and methods upon which information is written. Tape for audio and video recording purposes still produce the best analogue of what the sensing device sends. The truth is that microphone technology has not had major advancement because the diaphragm used to create devices like Neumann professional mics have been around for a great many years. The technology used in the production of mic diaphragms has not advanced.

    Optical sensing has advanced greatly but professional camera lens technology has not. If you really look at some of the great images taken by Ansel Adams you see the levels of resolution he used to create his photographic art, digital up until now has paled in comparison.

    In the same vein, some of the great recordings done in the in the late 1950 and early 1960 by DGG, Columbia Master Works and Phillips optical audio to film tape you see the same quality of detailed sound that is only starting to become possible now with digital recording.

    The combination of great analogue tech that is not stagnant with digital is the way forward. For instance advanced large size reflex ribbon mics with miniature electronics are just starting to happen and become affordable for the pro as are large size high density and sensitivity ccd based cameras that can take large lenses and produce close to what Ansel Adams did. Ansel was certainly not alone and owed a dept to some of the great photographers that showed the way some of whom were American. Here we can clearly see that fine grained analogue photography was starting to make leaps and bounds until the first world war really screwed up things for a while. France, England, Germany started to take the technology and keep it secretly in the military. The same bullshit happened during the second world war and during the cold war. Both advanced miniaturized audio recording technology and miniaturized high resolution camera technology has if anything been held back by war.

    The great analogue technologies which ampex helped introduce to the public, essentially during times of peace, are very important and the sign is a reminder of this fact. It should stay or at least not fade into the dust of what we perceive as progress! If the young of today and our antecedents cannot learn from the past then American society is doomed.

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    1. Re:Not so fast to discard tape technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's actually YOU that missed the point - Ampex didn't have a clue about tape recorder technology until it was able to examine tape machines brought back from Germany. The Nazis used wire recorders in the field, but it was (I think) Telefunken that designed and built large orchestra quality tape machines that the Nazis played back 24/7 over the air. An article back in the 70's examined this, and mentioned the the Allies couldn't believe that Hitler would keep orchestras playing on the air all night long. They got their answer when they captured the tape machines, and hauled them back to the US. While we were able to copy the machines, it took much longer to duplicate the tape, and until we did studios used and reused the original tape captured with those Telefunken tape machines. So it was actually war that brought tape recording into it's own, not peace.

    2. Re: Not so fast to discard tape technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TLDRBIPIOAWMAWI (Too Long Didn't Read But I Printed It Out And Wiped My Ass With It).

    3. Re:Not so fast to discard tape technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason these things haven't advanced much is because they don't need to. Microphones have been able to capture sounds in a wider spectrum than our ears can hear, with better dynamics response too for a long time now. There is no point in recording any better because you cant hear the difference. Same for speakers, headphones, the recording media itself. A CD could already play back sounds outside of the human range of hearing back in the 80's. You don't need a better microphone.

      The same applies for lenses. You can't beat physics. There is a reason Hubble and spy satellites have such massive mirrors and lenses in them. Because if you want the crazy resolution you have to get really big. No way around it. Camera lenses haven't really improved all that much since post war for the same reason. Coatings have but not the glass. If you want more then you have to get a bigger lens and that's just how it works. Its easy to find professional photographs from the 50's on that looks just as good as any modern DSLR. The only thing that has really changed is convenience with going digital so you don't have to carry around a bunch a film rolls and wait until its developed to know if you took any worthwhile pictures.

      If we are talking about any physical medium, audio, video, still photography etc. There is a plateau in performance where you dont need to improve any more. And that plateau is how close can we get to matching the human senses? Once we have a TV that can play back video at a resolution our eyes cant discern from real, at a frame rate we can't discern from real, with a contrast ratio and color spectrum that does the same. Then there is no point in making better TVs except in getting the cost down, making it smaller, etc. Its going to be interesting with 3D graphics get to that level where the visual in a video game are indistinguishable from real life. You still have the whole problem of the interface to the game preventing perfect immersion, but who knows. Maybe by that point we will have come up with Matrix style stabby usb plugs for your head where the same is beamed right into your brain.

    4. Re:Not so fast to discard tape technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a plateau in performance where you dont need to improve any more.

      I don't know what economy you're describing here, but in the United States of Capitalistic Greed that bullshit statement will get you thrown out of the boardroom permanently.

      Look at the technology today. You think we need 8 billion lines of "retina" grade resolution on a damn 5" screen in a smartphone? You think they're going to just stop with 8K televisions or HD Blu-Ray? We have already gone well past the point of justifying improvements when it comes to a lot of technology, and in many cases we've gone backwards (The Loudness Wars is a rather fitting example.) Consumers have now been brainwashed and practically demand pointless improvements, because you won't sell hardware unless upgrades are at least implied.

      ..Its going to be interesting with 3D graphics get to that level where the visual in a video game are indistinguishable from real life. You still have the whole problem of the interface to the game preventing perfect immersion...

      Uh, actually I think the real problem in the future will be convincing people that perfect immersion is a problem to solve. For many, it won't be. We will ultimately create vast digital worlds where people will essentially live.

      And if we think that kind of prediction is improbable, understand we call that world today "Facebook". Humanity will welcome living in virtual reality like any other addiction.

    5. Re:Not so fast to discard tape technology by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      the Allies couldn't believe that Hitler would keep orchestras playing on the air all night long

      Don't need a tape recorder for that. Didn't it occur to the Allies that Hitler could have been playing records?

  11. As a long time nerd and casual observer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of Silicone Valley from far, far away.... I had no idea this was there or even a big deal.

    1. Re:As a long time nerd and casual observer by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. It's not there anymore, and it was never a big deal.

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    2. Re:As a long time nerd and casual observer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silicone Valley? Or mountains. I prefer real tits.

    3. Re:As a long time nerd and casual observer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Long time nerd? (And a casual observer? See what he did there?)

      I'm pretty sure he meant Silicone Valley. A.k.a. the San Fernando Vally, the pron capital of the world (or is it?) SFV is about 350 miles (500km) south of the Ampex sign.

  12. Fast Company by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    While we're at it, can we take the blog that styles itself as a relevant media outlet called "Fast Company"? (I was surprised that thing survived the dotcom implosion - haven't heard anything from it in 15 years.)

    1. Re:Fast Company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While we're at it, can we take the blog that styles itself as a relevant media outlet called "Fast Company"? (I was surprised that thing survived the dotcom implosion - haven't heard anything from it in 15 years.)

      When I read it, the first thing I thought of was Fucked Company. Sadly, not even that survived.

    2. Re:Fast Company by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Well, Fucked Company was a parody of Fast Company.

      But, really, how the fuck did Fast Company survive? The magazine was created to promote the pump-and-dump schemes of the dot-com era. I can imagine the articles are still all "this college dropout's company is going to CHANGE THE WORLD" is given venture capital funding and is promptly never heard from again.

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  13. Well, good for them by Sqreater · · Score: 1, Troll

    The future should not be held hostage by the past. Otherwise we become Italy.

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    E Proelio Veritas.
    1. Re:Well, good for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was basically my thought too.

      I understand it may have significance to some. But, everything has significance to someone. If we had to preserve everything that meant something to someone else, we'd run out of room for anything new. And at some point, Ampex was new too.

    2. Re:Well, good for them by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      I feel like this was the accidental real message behind Ready Player One. Endless nostalgia is ultimately self-serving, and leads leads to a crapsack world.

      The movie would have been much more fulfilling if it wasn't just a big Hollywood and Spielberg wank-fest.

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      I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
    3. Re:Well, good for them by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      The future should not be held hostage by the past.

      Quite. That damned Ampex sign has held me hostage for long enough.

  14. Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just an ad to make us go to his website.

  15. Re:I am God's gift to you rotten bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    good point. people don't care about your hosts file spam either.

  16. If you like the view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you like the view, buy the view.

    If you liked how the sign looked, you should have bought it and maintained it. If it's as important as you say it is, I'm sure you could have put a save the Ampex sign campaign together to collect a moderate sum from like minded parties and bought it.

    Reminds me of neighbours that bitch their view has been spoiled when the city sells unused land for a condo development. If you liked that view, why didn't YOU buy it FIRST? Oh, couldn't afford it? That's life. You can't even argue a view is an essential human right/necessity.

  17. Why should anyone care? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Not to seem snide but since I don't live there and have never even heard of the company, please explain to me why I (or anyone else) should care about some random bit of signage for a company just because it's been there a long time. I looked up some pictures and whatever significance this thing has to locals is utterly lost on me. It looks like a typical boring and wasteful company sign. Is this another example of people on the coasts thinking what happens in their city is somehow special and important even to people who don't live there? (NYC is notorious for this...)

    1. Re:Why should anyone care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to seem snide but since I don't live there and have never even heard of the company, please explain to me why I (or anyone else) should care about some random bit of signage for a company just because it's been there a long time

      Pretty much my first thoughts.

      This is another example of Silicon Valley thinking they're the centre of the universe. At best this is a local interest story, but pretty much nobody else gives a damn.

      Should we all start submitting stories when someone takes down a fucking billboard in our neighbourhood too?

    2. Re:Why should anyone care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like a typical boring and wasteful company sign

      Nailed it.

    3. Re:Why should anyone care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was born in Redwood City, lived half my life in the Bay Area and have worked in tech since 1999. I’d never heard if this sign and couldn’t care less that it is going away. If it is iconic, a museum or collector would have snapped it up.

      As for preservation being a “coastal” thing, that is nonsense. I live in flyover country now and people here are if anything more obsessed with propping up obsolete historical or otherwise noteable knickknacks.

    4. Re:Why should anyone care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that you are neither very observant or curious doesn't mean others in the future (probably not your kids since your genes are unlikely to produce offspring with such useful intellectual skills) may not.

      Ampex was a well known name in its time and in the Bay Area there are few signs of the era left.

      Larry Ellison, Atari’s Nolan Bushnell and Ray Dolby were all alums of Ampex. I don't suppose you've probably heard of those names either since you somehow never noticed a highly visible sign right off 101 in your own hometown.

  18. Ugh now it's annoying me by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Now that you pointed it out, all of Jellomizer's posts are really annoying to read.

    Jellomizer:

    A comma is used when you have a complete sentence and add a few additional words the clarify the sentence (but not completely change the meaning). The "few additional words" can't be a sentence on their own. Those two parts are called the "independent clause" (independent sentence) and the "dependent clause" (added words).

    If the two parts are each complete sentences you separate them with a period. Occasionally you can use a semicolon when grammatically they could be separate but you want to put them together.

    For example only one of commas should be there
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    The Ampex sign, is a local landmark. While Ampex may had done some important innovation, I wouldn't deem it historic, worthy of presentation. Landmarks change. The blue barn was just painted red, The sports stadium had changed sponsors. Just because something is well known or had done important things, doesn't mean it needs to be preserved for prosperity.
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    "The Ampex sign is a local landmark."
    Not
    "The Ampex sign, is a local landmark."

    That's because neither "the Ampex sign" nor "is a local landmark" is a sentence.

    "change. The blue barn was just painted red, The sports stadium had changed sponsors."

    Two separate sentences. Use a period. The parallel structure here indicates this might be intended to be basically a short poem so a semicolon could be used to separate the two "lines" of the poem.

    "While Ampex may had done some important innovation, I wouldn't deem it historic, worthy of presentation."

    Here is the one place a comma makes sense. "While Ampex may had done some important innovation, I wouldn't deem it historic" is a complete sentence. Adding "worthy of presentation" enhances the meaning so it should be separated by a comma.

  19. Ampex got it's idea from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One should not forget that Ampex got the idea from the Germans, when the US Army came across them using magnetic tape recording, albeit in a less developed state. This was passed on to Ampex, who then improved it a lot to the point of being used as a standard for recording in the TV industry for many years.

  20. OTOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "He who forgets history is destined to repeat it". Otherwise we become every country and person that ever existed.

  21. Re-use the Letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Re-use the letters for something else.

    Should be in all caps, but in order not to be chastised for shouting:
    exam
    ape
    pea
    map
    max
    Pam
    axe
    amp

  22. Local news posted globally by sjbe · · Score: 1

    I live in flyover country now and people here are if anything more obsessed with propping up obsolete historical or otherwise noteable knickknacks.

    Perhaps but they don't waste the time of a bunch of people posting stories about local news on a globally read website. While I'm sure slashdot has a fair number of bay area readers, I'm comfortable stating that almost everyone here has never heard of the sign or probably the company. I cannot imagine why the slashdot editors thought this would be of general interest to slashdot readers...

    1. Re:Local news posted globally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in flyover country now and people here are if anything more obsessed with propping up obsolete historical or otherwise noteable knickknacks.

      Perhaps but they don't waste the time of a bunch of people posting stories about local news on a globally read website.

      I assure you that they would if they could. They are invariably convinced that their world’s biggest ball of yarn or house where Elvis once puked on the porch before he was famous is on par with Stonehenge or the Eiffel Tower. Moreover, anyone who doesn’t agree is some kind of elitist who disdains America and it’s important heritage.

    2. Re:Local news posted globally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people over 50 with any interest in technology should have heard of Ampex and know, at least vaguely, that they were a big name in tape recording technology - mostly for professionals. Rather like anyone over 35 with any interest in technology should have heard of Sun Microsystems and Digital Equipment Corporation.

      Of course, in 100 years, people like yourself will be saying "Google? Never heard of it and what a stupid name." and "Apple? Granny Smith or Red Delicious?" and "Facebook? What's that and what's a 'book'?".

  23. AMPEX was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AMPEX was IBM before IBM. IBM was Apple before Apple. Sad to see greatness fade, but capitalists have poor memories.

  24. Cultural memory matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we consistently, willingly forget where we have been and thus forget how we got here, that makes it more difficult to remember where we are going and why, which makes it more difficult to get there.

    This explains a lot about the state of society, politics, and economics in the United States today.

  25. Museum bound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't they just give it to one of the many sign museums?

  26. Today's Decree by SethJohnson · · Score: 1
    Hear ye! From this day forward, any monument or landmark unknown to Cultural Significance Minister Kalarius will have its status removed and any physical marker shall be decommissioned as soon as is logistically convenient. All current or future restoration projects are now cancelled to repair or renovate all monuments or landmarks that have been determined to look "worn and kinda crappy."
    1. Re:Today's Decree by kelarius · · Score: 1

      Hear ye! From this day forward, any monument or landmark unknown to Cultural Significance Minister Kalarius will have its status removed and any physical marker shall be decommissioned as soon as is logistically convenient. All current or future restoration projects are now cancelled to repair or renovate all monuments or landmarks that have been determined to look "worn and kinda crappy."

      We must never change anything lest we trample all over someone's nostalgia! In any case, your examples could be (or are being) renovated and refurbished so that future generations can enjoy them, this is a bloody sign for a business that isn't even at that location anymore, I think the vast majority of people that drive on 101 aren't going to miss it. If it's so culturally significant, why doesn't someone pay to fix it up and move it to a museum?

      Also, I kinda like the title, maybe I'll add it to my sig ;)

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    2. Re:Today's Decree by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      Glad you got a kick out of it. Just messing with you. Have a great weekend!

  27. I would of torn it down long ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares? Are we supposed to hold on to everything, forever, because it tickles some neurons of your memory from 40 years ago? Again, WTF cares? They're dead, not relevant, didn't mean shit, didn't do shit, good riddance. What are we gonna do next, reminisce at all those CBS outdoor billboards next? Ooooohhh, there's another one! Remember when it had the advert for Captain Morgan on it last year? Sigh... those were the days. :(

    1. Re:I would of torn it down long ago. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Who cares? Are we supposed to hold on to everything, forever, because it tickles some neurons of your memory from 40 years ago? Again, WTF cares? They're dead, not relevant, didn't mean shit, didn't do shit, good riddance. What are we gonna do next, reminisce at all those CBS outdoor billboards next? Ooooohhh, there's another one! Remember when it had the advert for Captain Morgan on it last year? Sigh... those were the days. :(

      From the late 1940s to about 2005, Ampex DID "do shit", they WERE undeniably relevant, as every utterance and every image that was recorded on magnetic tape from that SIX DECADE time period owes its very existence to the pioneering research spearheaded and financed by singer Bing Crosby and perfected by the scientists at Ampex; but unfortunately for them, recording tape has all but been replaced by other forms of storage media. But if you were more than 12 years old, you'd understand why people believe that their contribution to technological history deserves to be remembered.

    2. Re:I would of torn it down long ago. by Tapewolf · · Score: 1

      From the late 1940s to about 2005, Ampex DID "do shit", they WERE undeniably relevant, as every utterance and every image that was recorded on magnetic tape from that SIX DECADE time period owes its very existence to the pioneering research spearheaded and financed by singer Bing Crosby and perfected by the scientists at Ampex; but unfortunately for them, recording tape has all but been replaced by other forms of storage media. But if you were more than 12 years old, you'd understand why people believe that their contribution to technological history deserves to be remembered.

      Not only that, not only the vast legacy of classic songs recorded on 406 and 456 tape, but computers used tape as backing store until the 80s. Digital audio was only viable because of their videotape systems - it was the only medium we had with enough capacity and bandwidth to make it work. And while we have since moved on to better things, none of this would have happened without the intermediate step that Ampex made possible.

      I rather doubt we'd have an internet to discuss and argue on without Ampex.

    3. Re:I would of torn it down long ago. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      From the late 1940s to about 2005, Ampex DID "do shit", they WERE undeniably relevant, as every utterance and every image that was recorded on magnetic tape from that SIX DECADE time period owes its very existence to the pioneering research spearheaded and financed by singer Bing Crosby and perfected by the scientists at Ampex; but unfortunately for them, recording tape has all but been replaced by other forms of storage media. But if you were more than 12 years old, you'd understand why people believe that their contribution to technological history deserves to be remembered.

      Not only that, not only the vast legacy of classic songs recorded on 406 and 456 tape, but computers used tape as backing store until the 80s. Digital audio was only viable because of their videotape systems - it was the only medium we had with enough capacity and bandwidth to make it work. And while we have since moved on to better things, none of this would have happened without the intermediate step that Ampex made possible.

      I rather doubt we'd have an internet to discuss and argue on without Ampex.

      I quite agree.

      Heck, DAT tapes and DLP Cartridges (what a joke THE DLP tapes were!) were used as Computer Backups WELL into the 1990s!

      Some people just don't get it.

  28. It's a sign. Who cares? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    But if you were more than 12 years old, you'd understand why people believe that their contribution to technological history deserves to be remembered.

    WTF does that have to do with the stupid sign? If their contributions to technology were significant then they will stand on their own merits. We don't need a billboard to remind us of that fact long after the company has faded from relevance and memory. There are better ways to remind ourselves of our heritage than preserving irrelevant street signs.

  29. Early Angel Investor by AlanObject · · Score: 1

    I recall many years ago (I think early 70s) listening to a radio program that announced that the richest actor in Hollywood turned out to be Fred MacMurray. The reason was that he was an early investor in Ampex.

    However looking now (wikipedia, etc) I see no mention of this. Can anyone here say if that is true or if I just mis-remembered it somehow?

    1. Re:Early Angel Investor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember this story too, but I thought it was Bob Hope, or perhaps Bing Crosby? Pretty sure it wasn't Fred MacMurray.

      If I remember correctly, it was the broadcast needs of radio that drove this. Thus this story long predated the VCR era.

  30. "I resisted the temptation to chain myself" by chapstercni · · Score: 1

    "I resisted the temptation to chain myself to the baseâ"I wish Iâ(TM)d thought to bring the necessary equipmentâ"but did pay my respects and take some photos."

    ROFL at the lunacy.

  31. Move It by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    A university in Toronto tore down the historic Sam The Record Man building, and promised to reinstall its beloved sign elsewhere. It took them 8 years, but they finally installed it over a major public square.

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    Does it make you happy you're so strange?

  32. Re:It's a sign. Who cares? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

    But if you were more than 12 years old, you'd understand why people believe that their contribution to technological history deserves to be remembered.

    WTF does that have to do with the stupid sign? If their contributions to technology were significant then they will stand on their own merits. We don't need a billboard to remind us of that fact long after the company has faded from relevance and memory. There are better ways to remind ourselves of our heritage than preserving irrelevant street signs.

    Name 3.

  33. Tascam sign by AdmNaismith · · Score: 1

    Up here in LA, where the 101 runs through City of Industry, Tascam had an office and repair center with an enormous sign you could see from the fwy. Several years ago it was changed to advertise a cleaning supply company (while keeping the same shape). Obv reflecting the new tenants of the bldg. Closer to my house is a run-down sign next to a strip mall for a bank that hasn't been there for 20+ yrs. I hope it stays up forever.

  34. What is Ampex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For you youngsters wondering "What is Ampex?", here's a "folksy" history of the early days of the company.