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Java and JavaScript Remain the Top Enterprise Developer Languages For the Cloud, Survey Finds (zdnet.com)
Programmers may love hot newer languages like Kotlin and Rust, but according to a Cloud Foundry Foundation (CFF) recent survey of global enterprise developers and IT decision makers, Java and Javascript are the top enterprise languages. ZDNet: That said, the CFF also found [PDF] that, "More and more, businesses are employing a polyglot and a multi-platform strategy to meet their exact needs." The CFF discovered 77 percent of enterprises are using or evaluating Platforms-as-a-Service (PaaS); 72 percent are using or considering containers; and 46 percent are using or thinking about serverless computing. Simultaneously, more than a third (39 percent) are using all three technologies together. For companies this "flexibility of cloud-native practices enables [companies to move] away from a monolithic approach and towards a world of computing that is flexible, portable and interoperable." That means, while Java and JavaScript are only growing ever more popular, the larger the company, the more languages are used. After the Java twins, C++, C#, Python, and PHP are the most popular languages.
Only computer illiterate retards use Javascript.
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The title alone could have won at the buzzword bingo.
I recommend reading thedailywtf.com to anyone who wants to know what "enterprise" means.
That "cloud" stands for "clueslees luddite’s offshore unprotected disks" is already clear, so I don't have to explain it.
If they're twins they're definitely not identical, and one's good and the other is evil.
I wonder how many people polled didn't know that Java and Java Script are totally different things and if that skewed the results?
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Than read another goddamn slashdot post about which programming language is popular. Seriously this is getting old editors. It is not interesting and nobody cares about surveys. And you have posted at least five or six of these this year alone.
To perhaps clarify: JavaScript in enterprise generally means Node.js.
You mean the language that's open source, standard, works as a base logic language interpreted within all browsers on planet earth and runs the client side, server side and database all in a singular easy to use syntax is popular?
Well blow me down. Next you'll tell me water is wet and linux is better than windows
Can we stop with the buzzwords please? capcha: excrete...
I wonder how much of this is driven by a lack of vision, and simple inertia. I've used Rails as my main tool for 10-11 years, since the 2.x days. In the company I work for now, the one app I had written has been mothballed, and I was told I could no longer use it.* My choices were either .NET or Java, and that's simply because we had been an "IBM/Oracle shop" for 25 years, until we became a "Microsoft shop" since transitioning to O365. Because what I'm integrating with is all Java, I chose Java, but these days, to even try to compete against modern stacks, that implies Spring, and either Angular or React.
My theory is that old, manufacturing-based companies are just locked into a mindset of "this is what we do," and that comes from an answer from 20-30 years ago. They don't care to optimize for IT tools, because it's not their expertise, and they're throwing money down the drain because the C-levels just play the game of hiring consultants to implement whatever Microsoft pays to put in the trade magazines. So we get H1-B's with, and outsource for, that skillset. And then the consulting industry educates and trains for this skillset, and it becomes a self-perpetuating legacy situation, a little like Cobol and mainframes. We just can't get away from it, because it's too hard to switch everything to something else.
* The person responsible for the decision told me, "You're the only person in the company who knows it." I asked, "Rails is the most productive thing I've seen in 15 years; why wouldn't we hire for that?" I didn't get a response.
I've come to the conclusion that I hate using Java for web apps.
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The survey analysis seems to be written by people who don't understand programming at all. The conclusions are completely idiotic.
First complaint: JavaScript is not a darling language everyone loves. It's the only language that runs on a web browser (*). So stop acting impressed or surprised at it's popularity! Duhhh!
Check out some of these gems:
But enterprise-sized companies are now using multiple languages for their projects. That's new. Historically, larger companies have practiced tighter control over production projects.
Historically, we had the ability to use a single language. But we can't any more, because every project must be JavaScript + something + probably SQL. Yes, the "something" could be JavaScript, but that isn't usually the best choice on the server side. This isn't what we *want* it is what we are stuck with because of the browser. This conclusion would only seem meaningful if you were looking at the statistics over time, but had no idea what you were talking about.
For students and programmers looking for a corporate job, it's clear the older languages are the way to go. The future is in the cloud, but its languages are decades old. At the same time, they'd be wise to pick up containers, cloud, and container manager
I don't even know what this is saying. How can the future be old? Or the cloud, which is new, be using old languages? Then they confuse languages with containers. It almost looks like a Markov generator wrote this paragraph.
the larger the company, the more languages are used.
Wait, you mean having more projects means more languages? Well it cannot possibly mean LESS languages, so this conclusion is completely mindless!
(*) Even if a developer codes in TypeScript, they would still answer "JavaScript" for survey purposes since it is never totally hidden.
To perhaps clarify: JavaScript in enterprise generally means Node.js.
To perhaps clarify further, node.js generally means retard script kiddies who think that playing with frameworks and libraries is software engineering
I am not Scottish, but if I were this would merit at least one jing. perhaps even a criven.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Haven't you heard yet? That is who businesses want to employ.
All that complicated time-consuming 'software' stuff is outdated.
Bring on the script kiddies.
I wonder how many people polled didn't know that Java and Java Script are totally different things and if that skewed the results?
Which of those being used most frequently for application development among enterprise developers worldwide is surprising?
The one used for almost all enterprise software development worldwide , or the one used for almost all websites worldwide? It's a rhetorical question, Farley.
To perhaps clarify: JavaScript in enterprise generally means Node.js.
Java Script in the enterprise means Java Script written by an enterprise software developer
vs.
Java Script written by a web browser
The survey was about languages in use, not where they execute.
Did they pay off the Oracle lawyers to use the name?
The complexity of assembler with the efficiency of javascript.
http://saveie6.com/
is that it's a proxy measurement for Web based applications. PHBs love their Web apps.
And the real significance of this article is that what programmers want doesn't matter. Just take the money and write the code, code monkey. And try to forget why you went into software in the first place, because none of that matters anymore.
The author of this article has never touched a line of code in his life.
JS frameworks are for diploma mills churning out clueless Dunning-Kruger case studies as "full-stack", uh..."developers", who have no idea how software works and couldn't write a simple goddamn xmlhttprequest if their lives depended on it. Congratulations, your minimal website with a couple of buttons and an input form is now a 10-megabyte text "engine" that makes you write giant scope-sensitive statements just to get access to your own data. Oh wait, sorry, you can't actually get your own data, that's handled automatically by the conjunctivized transcleddled scopemagnet attridirective.
I write my own GUI stuff and I use Python. I used to use Perl, which is a very, very messy language. I got fed up with that and switched.
No regrets. A reasonably clean object-oriented language is what you want to tame the mess.
Can't really defend the lambdas, but the rest of it... oh yeah.
I've also done C++ with MFC, because PHBs. It's a bit of of a mess, but at least it's a fast mess.
As much as Rust has its fanboys, the issue remain that it doesn’t offer many benefits over C and to get any real work done you have to write bindings in C anyway. And then you’re offered to write major issues into RFC where they get endlessly debated between Poettering-style purists and practicalists.
A language should work, not ideally but practically. If I can’t write things natively because some idealistic thread or type safety issues that don’t agree with the real world (where we have things like OpenGL, interrupts and DMA) then the language is good for theoretical work only.
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... is the impotent anger of the pedantic, whiny, irrelevant failures who can't stop complaining about the fact that they learned the wrong set of tools but refuse to admit it.
i could live a little longer in this prison
I once had a job interview where they asked me if I knew Java script. After discussing the job with them it became clear to me that they where looking for a Java programmer, not a Java Script jockey, but the interviewer didn't know the difference. I didn't figure it was my place to educate the guy. A couple of days later they wanted to discuss making me an offer, but I told them I didn't think the situation was a good fit for me.
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These languages are abysmal and truly disgusting.
And there's no way, no waaay, I would be posting that to reduce competition in a field where I am making $125k + in a low cost of living state.
None whatsoever !!
Can we please agree not to use that word in a "technical" article unless we ACTUALLY mean software that runs on brains or something? It's stupid marketing babble like Salesforce "no software" slogan. Uh, they are a SaaS company of course they use software. Ugh