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Sony Announces PlayStation Classic, a $100 Mini PS1 (polygon.com)
Sony announced Wednesday that it will release the PlayStation Classic micro console on December 3. It will cost $100 and come with 20 built-in games. From a report: Like Nintendo's NES Classic and SNES Classic, the PlayStation Classic will come packed with a list of beloved hits from the system's original library. There will be 20 games in all, but Sony only announced five of them today: Final Fantasy 7, Jumping Flash, R4: Ridge Racer Type 4, Tekken 3 and Wild Arms. "All of the pre-loaded games will be playable in their original format," the company said in an announcement post on the PlayStation Blog. Sony plans to launch the PlayStation Classic worldwide on Dec. 3 -- the 24th anniversary of the PlayStation's release. (The PS1 debuted in Japan on Dec. 3, 1994, and Sony didn't bring it to the West until September 1995.) The retro console will retail for $99.99 in the U.S., 89.99 pound in the U.K., 99.99 euro in Europe and 9,980 yen in Japan. For that price, customers will get the system and two controllers. The gamepads are full-size replicas of the PS1's original controller, not the DualShock, so they and don't include analog sticks or vibration. As you can see in the gallery above, the gamepads are wired USB devices that plug into the console in the same spot as the original system's controller ports.
Too bad early-generation 3D graphics have aged very poorly. Especially how the original Playstation doesn't even have perspective-correct texture mapping, everything warps and warbles as it moves on the screen.
I want to be able to play all my backup discs.
The best USB controls I found for emulating NES/SNES games for my kids where the cheap Logitech USB controls that were blatant knock-offs of the original PS1 controls. I avoided the "Dual Shock" knock-offs because some emulators insisted on using that analog stick if it was present.
The NES mini and the SNES mini have caught my attention, but dammit - USB would have been nice. I understand the desire to make them Wii compatible, but they could have made the Wii USB compatible had they wanted to. Nintendo has a history of being jerks about ports, the GBA SP, the GBA Micro, the original DS, DS Lite, DSi, and 3DS all charge on 5V DC, but of the ones I mentioned there's 4 different charger connectors.
Sony to their credit put a barrel plug on the PSP, made the PSP 2000 (I don't have the rest for comment) Mini USB chargeable as well. Sony - notorious for lock-in and incompatibility, is really showing a positive side making these controls USB. Shoot, I'll bet you could even use them on the PS3 and PS4 if you wanted.
The real question: Can I plug a Dual Shock 3 / 4 into the Playstation Mini using a USB cord? That would be great if we find you can load other games onto the thing.
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Or it's trash.
Smaller Compact Disk reader? It's unuseful, it will full the smaller capacity for few games.
Blu-ray discs from PS3, PS4, ... store a lot of information.
You can probably buy a used PSX and all those games for a hundred bucks, and then you can play actual discs. Playstation discs are still everywhere for a song. Granted, then you have to deal with load times, but if you cared about that you'd probably already have downloaded an emulator and the ISOs.
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Every Playstation since the original plays PS1 disks, and even the PSP can play PS1 games if you rip them and put them on the system correctly.
Even the PS3 systems that don't support PS2 games will play PS1 games.
Sony to their credit, has taken care of the PS1, much better than they did the systems that came after.
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Add a chip, and avoid the need for emulation.
Why pay 100$ when you can emulate pretty much all the PS1 library for free on any PC from the past decade?
!#%& you, Sony.
You can only get me to buy your products by folding and reopening under a new name and thus tricking me.
You think installing malware is the proper way to do business.
But for people who can tolerate your abuse, $100 seems a tad high.
I miss being able to play Symphony of the Knight.
That game was the best metroidvania game ever.
If it's anything like the last retro console -- NES Classic Edition -- Sony will produce about 10,000 units and create mass hysteria for it.
Now, a business-minded person would Nintendo shorted the market to create more demand; of course in Nintendo's case, it was only to create hysteria as they never produced more to meet that demand.
One of the most bizarre Christmas product releases I've ever seen.
The cookie policy basically says that if you don't want all of these tracking cookies to be active while using the site, you need to disable cookies in your browser. Most sites have an opt-out toggle somewhere. But polygon.com seem to be happy enough to get you to change your browser settings in order to achieve this.
Idiots.
Has anyone got a site with a better cookie policy?
On other systems, Shang Tsung could morph instantly into any other character. On the Playstation you could as well -- except for the whole game freezing 3-4 seconds mid-fight while the CD loaded each new character. LAME. Putting it all in RAM will make Shang Tsung playable as it was meant to be in 1995. My little brother's pussy Kung Lao will finally feel the wrath of this fully functional Mortal Kombat! Muhahaha...
Well - Assuming Mortal Kombat 3 (or MK Trilogy) gets onto the system, of course.
Would love to do a teardown of this device and compare it to an Arduino or Raspberry Pi.
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It'd be nice if they'd just sell the same software package (at a reasonable price for two decade old games), but on Steam. I neither need nor want an extra device sitting around when my PC can do the same job just as well. It's an all around waste to have a console specifically for 20 games that could be much more simply done on a pre-existing machine.
Of course, IMO two decade old games should be in the public domain anyway by now, so emulate away.
It came out fairly late in the life of the Playstation, so not all that many people are familiar with it, but it's just a great racing game. Arguably the best game in the Ridge Racer series. It's...sublime. And the soundtrack is fantastic (and I usually don't care about soundtracks).
If nothing else, get this to play that game if you haven't already. There's just something about it that feels great, even now. And the graphics actually hold-up - it almost looks like an early PS2 game.
I'd rather just buy a RetroPi and be able to play games from any of the old consoles...why have multiple systems? Plus, just pop in a different SD card and use it for almost anything else!!
That's nice and all, but what I would really kill for is an updated PS2 that could read old PS2 discs, maybe be able to use PS4 controllers so you can swap between systems. I can't be the only one with a set of old PS2 discs I am reluctant to get rid of but I can't use anymore...
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Meh ... I've got a cookie policy too ... it says that I've got script/cookie blockers and whitelist those things, and I don't give a damn about their cookie policy or their ad revenue.
First thing I do when I hit a site is to check my blockers to see if there is anything new I need to be blocking, and over time the parasites are blocked for every site I visit. All those embedded things you don't know are there really need to be aggressively blocked.
The entire internet has become a shit-show of ads, analytics, trackers, and other assholes and parasites. The average user will have no idea of how to block this, but if you're on Slashdot, and not doing it, you're a fool, because you should know better.
Ad companies can kiss my ass.
Know how that works? By setting a fucking cookie. You think they still don't track you?
Install something like HTTP Switchboard or uMatrix, and maybe ScriptSafe, start blocking shit, and start realising just how much garbage is in every web page you visit, none of which ads any value to the experience.
Some sites have callouts to 20+ external sites, most of which are simply trackers and ad companies, or shit like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. I bet most people don't realise that Slashdot has a web-bug to LinkedIn, which is owned by Microsoft.
No thanks, I'm not letting those assholes track every site I visit.
The only valid cookie/script/third party policy is the one you enforce yourself. I'm not accepting "we and the random array of 3rd party assholes will track you when you use this site", I'm simply going to block it.
Do watch High Score Girl, it's an amazing early-mid 1990s video game arcades romance series. Cannot be seen legally yet, arrives maybe in December to Crunchyroll, but an Anon sailing the high seas in a tall ship has already provided fan subtitled downloads. Watch especially if you dislike girls talking a lot.
A business-minded person would create a tuned small emulator system that is a little more in price but is actually available with 4x the games. I'm a business-minded person.
How will your business negotiate to license 80 games for that price?
Ad companies can kiss my ass.
Would you prefer that ad-free sites, each charging a subscription, become the norm? Or a return to the hobbyist Internet (and the connection speeds that prevailed then)? Or another option that you'll describe in a reply?
Classic Is Back!
Coming Soon:
Turing Classic
Colossus Classic
PDP Classic
Altair Classic
Pong Classic
Atari Classic
VIC 20 Classic
Commodore 64 Classic
Commodore 128 Classic
Tandy 1000 Classic
IBM PC JR Classic
To make loads of money, take something old, slap an emulator on a generic ARM CPU, manufacture a good looking "Classic case" and people will line up dumping money at you faster than a Venture Capitalist in the 00's.
I would prefer not to be tracked by a bunch of people I didn't sign up with to be tracked, and I reject the notion that sites can say "by visiting this site you agree to the privacy policy of the 20 other sites we link to".
Sites that want a subscription I can live without.
At the end of the day, the revenue model of web sites isn't my concern.
I block ads and trackers, if this renders a site unusable (it rarely does), I'll go elsewhere.
I care about my privacy, I don't care about the business model. If eventually the web becomes even less usable, then I'll use it even less.
As I said, ad companies can kiss my ass, because I have no intention of letting a bunch of random sites track my activities (or be a source of malware) because they've given themselves permission to.
Are you suggesting we should all submit to being tracked? If so, that's your problem, not mine.
Frankly, I really prefer playing these two games on my iPhone with all its hi-res bells and whistles. Especially the FF9. Its vector models look so sharp and crispy, and with so many extra details I have never noticed while playing this game on PS2 with texture filtering/smoothing turned on.
I hope Destruction Derby, GT 2, Klonoa, Tomba!, Oddworld, Parappa, Resident Evil 2, Castlevania, Ape Escape (my favorite kooky game) and Metal Gear Solid will be included.
I was never into 2D action RPGs, but this game left my eyes wide open.
I was an N64 owner, and didn't have a lot of PS1 experience.
What I mostly remember is waiting. for the CD-ROM.
like Final Fantasy 8/9, Chrono Cross, Ape Escape, Mario 64, Tekken 3, Gran Tourismo and Panzer Dragoon the 32 bit gen holds up well.
The trouble I see is folks comparing Bubsy 3D to Mario World. To be fair it was easier to make something at least playable in 2D (Bubsy is still more tolerable than it's 3D counter part). But go spend some time with Hard Nova, Shaq Fu, Fantasia, Awesome Possum or, god help us, Mondu's Fight Palace. The 8-bit era was even worse (LJN X-Men anyone?).
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The NES has a cartridge system that is fiddly to get working as it ages and its graphics output is limited to coax or composite, both of which look terrible on a modern flatscreen tv. If you still have your NES, it's kind of useless. The Playstation has discs that still work and s-video output which is good enough for the level of graphics that it has. This is to say nothing of the fact that the only reason the discs can't be played in the current generation console is because Sony decided not to do this. It's just a me too money grab.
The fact that they only announced 5 out of the 20 games is concerning. It probably means they are still negotiating with third-party suppliers. While Nintendo, Sega or Atari can fill a retro console with desirable first-party titles, Sony's reliance on third-party games is a real disadvantage (as it will be for Microsoft when they inevitably bring out the mini retro Xbox in a couple of years).
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At the end of the day, the revenue model of web sites isn't my concern.
Until you are researching something, and you discover that one or more promising sites about that thing have ceased to exist because their revenue model disappeared.
I block ads and trackers, if this renders a site unusable (it rarely does), I'll go elsewhere.
Unless elsewhere has also become unusable, as has else-elsewhere. Now about that:
If eventually the web becomes even less usable, then I'll use it even less.
What will you then proceed to use instead of the web?
Yeah me too! me too!
I paid 100$ for mine in 1838!
Do you see how your comment is irrelevant now?
Tekken 3 itself is $10-45...so I doubt you can get a PS1 and these particular games for $100.
Yeah me too! me too!
I paid 100$ for mine in 1838!
Do you see how your comment is irrelevant now?
Inflation is a concept way to complicated for creimer to understand; he bought 500$ of silver coins in 2005 and they are now worth 505$ so creimer thinks he has made a 5$ profit!
Poor creimer...
Eat cock Sony.
The PStv being that failure of a micro-console that's basically a screenless Vita. Like the Vita it has access to PSN so you can just buy a bunch of PSone classics, play them with an actual DualShock3/4. And also play a bunch of PSP and Vita games.
Sadly, PStv's have gone up in price...I got mine for $29 new at Wal-Mart, but you can't get one for that now.
I also want it with graphics as good as the old bleem emulator....
My dream is that Microsoft comes with a similar product WRT the original XBox hardware that carries the original Mechassault, and they set up the required servers for online gameplay.
IMO, there's never, ever been a game of that genre as good, or as fun, as that one. Shinier, just as you say, sure. But better? Nope. Not even close. Perfect user controls, fast, exciting gameplay, all kinds of cool sub-games like team capture the flag, etc. They pretty much crapped on the franchise with Mechassault II, and then the game tanked when they took down the servers. Idiots. They were too busy pushing their new hardware to pay attention to what they already had. They could have made it better, but instead, they broke the paradigm and the user base.
I'd forgive 'em if they brought it all back, though. It was that good.
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Correct. It is for the faint of brain, ie a match made in heaven for you.
It's amazing how your story always changes to revise your failed predictions! Of course, now you have natural gas holdings, that you never mentioned before!
The only natural gas holding you have is in your rectum.
Not quite, the PS4 does not play PS1 games, Official Playstation Backward Compatibility Support Article. Maybe there's a way to rip them, but it's not as simple as insert disc to play game. Keeps the PS3 relevant though.
What happened to your FunkoPop stock?? Oh down 33%??? Tell me more about your retirement strategy, Louis Rukeyser...
I bought at $11.60 per share, sold half my position at $28.00 per share and had a 100% ROI in three months.
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One of the best side-scrolling shooter game ever made.
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Don't have a PS4, just sort of assumed since they've pretty much been emulating the original anyways.....
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I could have sworn you said you were keeping your FNKO stock long term??? I seem to remember that that's what you said when I sold mine right before it dipped the first time?
Remember when I said there were all sorts of uncertainties and I went over tarriffs and vietnam and supply chains and P/E ratios with you??
More like I was right and you were wrong and now you're lying. Why the fuck do you bother to post lies about youself on slashdot?
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Oh yeah totally, you'll totally be able to predict the price of commodities with your folksy wisdom.