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Starbucks Says It Will Start Blocking Porn On Its Stores' Wi-Fi In 2019 (nbcnews.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the internet-filtering dept.

Starbucks announced that it will start blocking pornography viewing on its stores' Wi-Fi starting in 2019. "A Starbucks representative told NBC News that the viewing of 'egregious content' over its stores' Wi-Fi has always violated its policy, but the company now has a way to stop it," reports NBC News. From the report: "We have identified a solution to prevent this content from being viewed within our stores and we will begin introducing it to our U.S. locations in 2019," the company representative said. The announcement was first reported by Business Insider and comes after a petition from internet-safety advocacy group Enough is Enough garnered more than 26,000 signatures. The nonprofit launched a porn-free campaign aimed at McDonald's and Starbucks in 2014, and it says that while McDonald's "responded rapidly and positively," Starbucks did not.

In a letter that [Enough is Enough CEO Donna Rice Hughes] said she received from Starbucks over the summer, the company vowed to address the issue "once we determine that our customers can access our free Wi-Fi in a way that also doesn't involuntarily block unintended content." Starbucks has not released details about how it plans to restrict the viewing of pornographic sites or illegal content over its Wi-Fi. In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

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  1. That's petty by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

    People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

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    1. Re:That's petty by Eva+Braun++Feminazi · · Score: 2

      One of my customers from Kenesah, GA knew of a "that guy" that came in to the local Starbucks shops and was editing porn clips. The employees all knew what he was doing and kept kicking him out. He tried to hide it but there were only so many ways a guy could sit in his seat and sometimes whatever was behind him reflected what was on the screen. He would go from one Starbucks to the other. He told me about this two or three years ago so the incident happened at least that long ago.

      It does happen.

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    2. Re:That's petty by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      I'm sure he isn't banning all coffee at work. There are at least two major chains that compete with Starbucks here. There's even a good chance of one of those other coffee shop chains (or, gasp, even a private establishment!) being closer to their office.

    3. Re:That's petty by zlives · · Score: 2

      so they will be blocking instagram, faebook, you tube ....
      i see them failing

    4. Re:That's petty by EvilSS · · Score: 2

      That's petty

      No that's free marketing.

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    5. Re: That's petty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Funny, I go to Starbucks every day but I've never spent $6+ for a drink nor does it contain a drop of sugar.

    6. Re:That's petty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      so they will be blocking instagram, faebook, you tube ....
      i see them failing

      Unless they also block all proxies and VPN's, this will fail. However, it does give them plenty of cover if someone goes to such trouble to circumvent their filters.

    7. Re:That's petty by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      The perfect is the enemy of the good enough. This is doubly true when it's a PR move.

      If they catch you watching porn in a Starbucks, you're still gonna get thrown out.

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    8. Re:That's petty by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      More than likely it was a joke. Combination joke and marketing stunt.

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    9. Re: That's petty by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      First of all I have been a Starbucks customer for as long as I can remember and according to my Gold Card a Gold Club member since 2009. I love Starbucks, not because of their coffee, which truth be told is only stellar if you drop $6+ on a specialty drink, like my choice, "Triple Grande White Mocha, Extra Hot, w/Whipped." I can assure you that people watching porn in Starbucks is not a real issue, just as people bringing Starbucks to YouPorn offices ... where they almost certainly offer free coffee to their employees as has been the standing in IT shops for decades, is not an issue. Almost anyone who really is so mentally I'll that they feel the need to do it in public fashion will either disconnect from the Starbucks WiFi and connect to a neighboring AP or just use a 4G (or soon 5G) link to effect the same antisocial behavior. This isn't about a real problem and a real solution ... It is merely Starbucks corporate virtue signalling and YouPorn alt-virtue signalling. The only impact here is I should probably move from a 6GB cap to the 24GB cap lest that heightened BP from my specialty drink go to waste when I "visit the bathroom" near the end of the month. ;-)

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    10. Re: That's petty by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      I haven't worked at or heard of any IT company that doesn't provide free coffee to their employees for as long as I can remember. If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

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    11. Re: That's petty by swillden · · Score: 2

      I can assure you that people watching porn in Starbucks is not a real issue

      You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority. You go to Starbucks regularly, sure, but your sample of behavior at Starbucks' coffee shops is still ludicrously small for drawing any conclusions.

      Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

      There are about 14,000 Starbucks stores in the US. Let's suppose that, on average, each serves 500 patrons per day. That's 7M daily visits. On average, there will be 7 porn-watchers in Starbucks stores on any day, and the probability that any one day finds no one watching porn in any of their stores is 0.09%.

      And since a high percentage of these porn watchers will generate complaints, and those will likely all get reported to corporate, I'm sure to Starbucks' corporate offices this seems like a huge problem, even at an incidence of only one in one million.

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    12. Re: That's petty by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

      Or maybe you've noticed that the free coffee invariably sucks and/or the machine's out of order half the time.

      When I still worked in the office, I kept my own beans, grinder, electric kettle, and plunger pot there: "Y'all can drink that swill if you like; I prefer coffee, thanks."

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    13. Re:That's petty by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Iced coffee is an abomination. Do you also douse your Fillet Mignon with ketchup?

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    14. Re: That's petty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I subscribe to the "your favorite brand of beer is 'free', your second favorite is 'cold'" philosophy learned in college. Only in the case of coffee I guess second favorite should be hot.

    15. Re: That's petty by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Let's use common sense instead. Math is useful sometimes, but in other times it just gives you a way to show that you are a clueless idiot. Remember all those news stories you saw about perverts being arrested for porn related transgressions at Starbucks? See all those stories about it when googling "porn Starbucks" or searching for it on YouTube? No, of course you don't, because as I said, and now easily proved without trying to flaunt my superior math skills. Good luck learning how to gather and process information without trying to sound superior but proving instead that you are a moron!

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    16. Re: That's petty by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Yep ... I used to have my own espresso machine (though the coffee was always high quality where I worked; clearly YMMV.) But again, nobody is leaving the office to grab Starbucks. The reasons for this are, in truth, immaterial.

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    17. Re:That's petty by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      If he was editing porn clips that much, it's quite possible he does that for a living. Someone has to.

    18. Re:That's petty by DarkLordBelial · · Score: 1

      Unless you are black.

    19. Re: That's petty by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Cost of coffee is tangible. Money crosses the organisation boundary. It shows up on somebody's cost centre.

      Productivity, and the indirect effect small things have on it, is difficult to measure at the best of times.

      Which do you think the MBAs & PHBs are more likely to care about?

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    20. Re:That's petty by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

      In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

      People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

      If watching porn at a coffee shop isn't normal, why does Starbucks have to make a company-wide rule against it? People watch porn everywhere, even if only behind their eyes in the sticky-floored movie theater of the mind.

      I think I'm going to start a coffee shop called StarFucks. Not only MAY you watch porn on our wifi, you HAVE TO. (It's like Fight Club. "If this is your first night, you have to fight.") Also, our coffee won't taste like burnt, undrinkable swill, and it won't cost an obscene amount per cup.

      Okay, I'm dreaming big... what did YOU dream about today? Another day sitting in class naked, without your homework?

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    21. Re:That's petty by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

      Iced coffee is an abomination. Do you also douse your Fillet Mignon with ketchup?

      Iced coffee is not filet mignon with ketchup.

      It's more like a desiccated hamburger that fell out of your kid's Happy Meal after he nodded off and rolled right under the driver's seat, then SAT there while you went on a road trip through the middle of Arizona in July, only to be discovered a month later.

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    22. Re:That's petty by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      Yes, but do they have to do it in Starbucks?

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    23. Re: That's petty by f3rret · · Score: 2

      Oh I see, you're one of those guys.

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    24. Re: That's petty by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      Since most companies have coffee available I'm going to say it really doesn't matter, and as usual you are an idiot trying to sound smart while broadcasting to the world how incredibly stupid you are.

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    25. Re:That's petty by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      In response, the vice president of YouPorn responded by sending a memo to staff banning Starbucks products from company offices starting Jan. 1, 2019.

      People bringing coffee to work is considered pretty normal. People watching porn at a coffee shop isn't. That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

      You're right that one is normal and one isn't; but, I'm pretty sure it was more of a gesture than thinking he was achieving something. I disagree he looks stupid- I would say "petty" is a more accurate term.

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    26. Re: That's petty by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I haven't worked at or heard of any IT company that doesn't provide free coffee to their employees for as long as I can remember. If, in your mind, you need to get coffee from a coffee shop to bring to work, you are probably still in school or work for now, and have always worked for, shit companies who haven't figured out that the cost of caffeine is easily offset by the improvement in productivity providing it confers.

      We have free coffee... it's AWFUL!

      I brew my own at my desk rather than drink the free crap.

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    27. Re: That's petty by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Funny, I go to Starbucks every day but I've never spent $6+ for a drink nor does it contain a drop of sugar.

      Indeed, I only go to Starbucks once every 3 or 4 months or so and I walk out with a black cup of coffee for about $2 (which is still a lot more than making my own- but not that different to most places outside the home nowadays).

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    28. Re: That's petty by tap · · Score: 1

      Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

      There's a flaw in the reasoning here. This assumes each time he goes to a Starbucks he observes exactly one other patron. They are usually more crowded than that, especially at times the OP is most likely to be visiting the.

      The real question that needs answering, is one more likely to observe someone else's porn at Starbucks or get hit by lightning?

    29. Re:That's petty by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

      No, you're the one who's stupid.

      Businesses such as pornographic enterprises, need to inculcate an employee "team" mentality. You can just let Starbuck shit on your company, and erode employee solidarity with their job, or energize the employee base, with an "us vs them" distraction. YouPorn is not Google, and they replace one branded caffeine junkie employee with one who better desires collecting a paycheck and can get their caffeine fix from a different brand.

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    30. Re:That's petty by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      Its also a way to weed out employees who value their branded coffee more than their paycheck.

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    31. Re:That's petty by torkus · · Score: 1

      well starbucks now won't kick anyone out ... even dirty and smelly homeless people who haven't bought anything, move their shopping-cart condo in with them and sleep there all day.

      I'm sure a bit of porn editing wouldn't be an issue.

      Also, VPN. Why does no one understand the concept of VPN on /.?

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    32. Re: That's petty by swillden · · Score: 1

      Let's suppose that only one Starbucks patron in a million watches porn at Starbucks, and let's suppose that you've visited Starbucks four times daily, seven days per week, for 10 years. That's just over 100,000 visits. The probability that you'd have seen a porn-watcher in 100K visits is 9.5%.

      There's a flaw in the reasoning here. This assumes each time he goes to a Starbucks he observes exactly one other patron. They are usually more crowded than that, especially at times the OP is most likely to be visiting the.

      Valid point, though it doesn't change the answer that much. A bigger flaw -- in the opposite direction -- is that he doesn't see a random sample from the pool of all Starbucks customers, but will tend to mostly see people from one smallish pool, many of them repeatedly. So a better way to think about this is to estimate the size of the pool that he has observed and calculate the probability that at least one of them is a Starbucks porn watcher.

      The real question that needs answering, is one more likely to observe someone else's porn at Starbucks or get hit by lightning?

      Get hit by lightning inside a Starbucks? I would hope that the odds of that are extremely low. :P

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    33. Re:That's petty by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That VP is making YouPorn look pretty stupid.

      Not really. He's just making a point about a company banning another. To be clear his point will fall on deaf ears for the reason you listed, but it's not stupid. If anything it's a good narrative on how the actions of a company are always filtered through a lens of social acceptance.

    34. Re: That's petty by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Or maybe you've noticed that the free coffee invariably sucks and/or the machine's out of order half the time.

      That's just redundant. The GP already said shit companies.

    35. Re: That's petty by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Talking to yourself again.

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  2. Already doing this by jwhyche · · Score: 5, Funny

    I figured they already did this. I was unable to get to pornhub from starbucks the other day. I go there to read the articles.

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    1. Re:Already doing this by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It seems fairly pointless anyway, given that a) people have mobile data and b) I doubt many people go to Starbucks to look at porn.

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    2. Re: Already doing this by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      If you're determined to get yourself deliberately thrown out of Starbucks, surely you can think of a nobler reason than that.

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    3. Re: Already doing this by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      For example.

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  3. End of an era by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    There goes their profits on "hot whipped & frothy" lattes.

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    1. Re:End of an era by Pseudonym · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's going to save them a fortune on napkins though.

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  4. can't block vpn's! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    can't block vpn's!

    1. Re:can't block vpn's! by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      Well... you say that, but... they can actually. They can absolutely block VPNs.

      Blocking them reliably without blocking all encrypted and non-HTTP traffic however would be a full-time job, so I'm guessing security is going out the window too.

    2. Re:can't block vpn's! by zlives · · Score: 3, Insightful

      most likely they will use some sort of DNS filter and call it a policy... blocking VPN's would actually affect way more people that actually do real work from starbucks. deep packet/ssl inspection MITM would probably not fly.

    3. Re:can't block vpn's! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nah, they'll block the obvious sites. They're responding to a bad press attack by a special interest group. They need to do something so they can say, see, we did something.

    4. Re:can't block vpn's! by ourlovecanlastforeve · · Score: 2

      Nobody who is working at a Starbucks is doing real work.

    5. Re:can't block vpn's! by zlives · · Score: 1

      all my sales department would disagree with you :)

    6. Re:can't block vpn's! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      A couple of special interest groups. They coordinate. They have to, because no company considers Enough is Enough to be worthy of notice on their own, and NCoSE is still routinely making claims that exposure to pornography causes the brain to physically shrink.

    7. Re:can't block vpn's! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      all my sales department would disagree with you :)

      "Sales Department" - you just proved him right. Sales Departments don't do work.

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    8. Re:can't block vpn's! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Nah, they'll block the obvious sites. They're responding to a bad press attack by a special interest group. They need to do something so they can say, see, we did something.

      Yeah. The big legitimate ones that probably won't download a virus. The small illegitimate ones that don't have a reputation to keep and download viruses- they'll be the ones that people have to access now!

      Still... no one needs to be watching that kind of stuff at Starbucks. Falls under public indecency.

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    9. Re:can't block vpn's! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I wish one day someone would have the balls to block special interest groups.

    10. Re:can't block vpn's! by zlives · · Score: 1

      as long as they generate money, whatever they do is called work :)

    11. Re:can't block vpn's! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Well, Starbucks is blocking the porn industry and YouPorn apparently blocked Starbucks. Does that count?

    12. Re:can't block vpn's! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Nah because the easily offended get off free again after ruining it for everyone.

    13. Re:can't block vpn's! by Agripa · · Score: 1

      There is no fundamental reason why a VPN connection cannot be made to look exactly like TLS.

      Then the tunnel would be over TCP. It works but is subject to RST attacks and TCP over TCP has performance problems. Tunneling over UDP or some other stateless protocol is preferred.

      Does anyone know if OpenVPN offers a specific option for TLS masquerading?

      OpenVPN supports TLS for the control channel but I do not think it does for the data channel. DTLS (TLS for UDP) could work but that is not TLS.

      Even with an all TLS VPN, HTTPS traffic can be distinguished from VPN traffic apparently.

      It has been a while since I messed with this stuff.

  5. Normal by Anrego · · Score: 1

    Isn't this par for the course basically everywhere?

    1. Re:Normal by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      They are most likely making something official policy that individual managers have generally assumed was policy all along. They are most likely doing this as a response to a coordinated flood of complaints about the few locations where managers did not.

  6. What about their prices? by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are really obscene!

    1. Re:What about their prices? by zlives · · Score: 1

      but you get free porn with it... until now :)

    2. Re:What about their prices? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Somebody should upload a video of people getting served at Starbucks to the orgy section of some porn site, since it would be a video of a whole bunch of people getting fucked.

  7. And value by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    And nothing of value was lost.

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    1. Re:And value by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      And nothing of value was lost.

      Are you kidding? PORN!

    2. Re:And value by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Porn at Starbucks? Yeah.........nothing of value.

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    3. Re:And value by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well you sure as hell wouldn't go there for the horrid tasting swill they call coffee.

  8. Re:No Starbucks in FEDERAL PRISON by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    The Mueller investigation seems to be coming to an end soon, give it a rest and just let it finish.

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  9. So... by bblb · · Score: 1

    Am I just supposed to drink coffee and jerk off at home now or what?

    1. Re:So... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Am I just supposed to drink coffee and jerk off at home now or what?

      Just be careful if you're jiggling around doing that, that you don't spill your coffee.

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  10. Old news... by JoeDuncan · · Score: 1

    Slashdot should change there motto from: "News for Nerds" to: "Yesterday's News Today!"

    1. Re:Old news... by JoeDuncan · · Score: 1

      [sic]their

      Bloody Slashdot and their "no edits no deletes" BS...

    2. Re:Old news... by JoeDuncan · · Score: 1

      Get over your fear-of-missing-out and give-me-all-the-things-now addictions.

      Oh please, it has nothing to do with "missing out" or an addiction to immediacy, and everything to do with the fact that just about *EVERY* story I see on Slashdot is a repeat of something I saw somewhere else the day before.

      I don't expect Slashdot to post "zero-hour" journalism, but I do expect Slashdot articles to at least be current to the *day*. If it was posted elsewhere the day before, it doesn't belong on Slashdot.

    3. Re:Old news... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Slashdot should change there motto from: "News for Nerds" to: "Yesterday's News Today!"

      True for all News Aggregators and always has been.

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  11. Will they block Wikipedia? by xack · · Score: 1

    The Donald Trump article contains a penis

  12. Take note by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Free WiFi isn't always free. Take note.

  13. Only in Murica.Or the IS.Can't tell the difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is Murica such a Catholiban hellhole?
    This is as ridiculous as banning the display of food. Or beds and sleeping. Or any other of the most basic and normal things that literally everyone does or there would be no humanity.

    And how does nobody even realize that this is extreme fundamentalist religious insanity (in the mental illness sense)? What the actual fuck?

    Guess what happens, when ten guys and ten girls go to the town's main square or park during the most busy time, and fuck each other for hours, with kids walking around on the outside.
    NOTHING!
    Kids, by definition, are not sexually exitable! They'll stare a bit out of curiosity, since they have never seen such a thing. Then it will get boring. Then they'll move on.
    They will talk about it the next day, like "have you seen?". It will die down in a few days.
    The next time it happens, they will maybe look for a bit, then move on. Maybe tell each other that "It happened again.".
    And from then on, it will be "Meh.".

    It's only the Catholiban so-called parents, that flip their shit and go apeshit crazy, hallucinating all kinds of sick shit.
    Because guess what: THEY are the sick fucks. THEY are the fucked-up ones.
    And IMHO, they are just one emotional day and a good hiding place away from starting to rape children by the masses.

    It's not different that Muslim extremists and their suicide belts and boko haram, etc.
    It's just as utterly insane, and ridiculous, that this happens, not in the freaking dark ages, but *today*!
    Jesus fucking Christ (in the anus) is this fucked-up!

  14. Re:It's all in the genes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I feel bad for you that you can't watch black gay porn at Starbucks any more. I know how much those big black cocks turned you on.

  15. Let me fix that for you by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Starbucks Says It Will Start Trying To Block Porn On Its Stores' Wi-Fi In 2019

    Good luck with that!

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  16. Re:Net neutrality arguments? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    No one is going to run a home server on Starbucks wifi.

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  17. And what way is that, exactly? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    A Starbucks representative told NBC News that the viewing of 'egregious content' over its stores' Wi-Fi has always violated its policy, but the company now has a way to stop it

    Color me skeptical... if people own the hardware the connects to their wifi, how do they actually stop it?

    If it's difficult enough to stop kids from accessing porn on a home computer without parents using explicit whitelists, I fail to see how Starbucks can do this when they don't even control the connecting hardware.

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    1. Re:And what way is that, exactly? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      They don't.

      The number of people actually looking at porn in starbucks is tiny, and easily dealt with by asking them to stop or kicking them out. This policy is more for PR reasons. A few anti-pornography pressure groups have been pushing for various companies to start blocking porn for years, and Starbucks is on their list. So Starbucks gets pestered with petitions and badmouthed in opinion columns all over right-leaning media. Eventually Starbucks board notices this and thinks 'Why not? It'll shut them up, doesn't cost us anything, and we can even spin it to look socially responsible.'

      And when the very rare incidents of people looking at porn in Starbucks continue - because all filters can be broken, and because people can just download it at home for viewing later, and because mobile internet is a thing - then Starbucks can still kick the offender out just as before.

    2. Re: And what way is that, exactly? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Let's see... OneNewsNow is run by the AFA, which is a major pressure group in the US, which makes it right-wing but not fringe.
      https://www.onenewsnow.com/cul...
      That's an article from 2016 which condemns Starbucks for ignoring demands to install filtering.

      And here'a a Fox article from a similar time which explains how companies which provide unfiltered wifi are helping terrorists and child molesters:
      https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...
      Starbucks is specifically mentioned, though the focus is more on congratulating companies which do filter.

      The Fox news article seems to imply that the internet is rife with child porn, and only filtering can save people from seeing it. Makes me wonder what sort of sites Fox writers look at.

  18. Re:Net neutrality arguments? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's like arguing that an internet kiosk in a department store that only allows accessing a store's own website to search products is a violation of net neutrality. Starbucks is not an ISP, they're a coffee company that happens to offer customers some internet service under certain conditions.

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  19. Cream in your coffee, sir? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    "Well, 'til January, at least.

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    1. Re:Cream in your coffee, sir? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      It's a verb, you stupid ass pirate. But thanks for letting everybody know about your preferred diet.

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    2. Re:Cream in your coffee, sir? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      You prefer jizz from underage boys because you are a homosexual pedophile. Probably a priest. I don't imagine their skin colour makes a lot of difference to you. A lot of anonymous cowards are like you.

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  20. I stopped relying on Starbucks WiFi by DewDude · · Score: 1

    I stopped using it for anything other than a VPN transport years ago. Connected one day...everything took *forever* to load...half the DNS not resolving. Connected to a VPN and it was snappy as anything.

  21. Better hurry ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... and download those pics of Gary Hart's paramour while you can.

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  22. Their Goes Their Business Model by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Meant as a joke, actually there are consequences. Starbucks cannot block porn without spying on people.

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  23. Re:Net neutrality arguments? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Starbucks is not an ISP, they're a coffee company that happens to offer customers some internet service under certain conditions.

    This. But NN is moot, because the Pai FCC killed it, remember?

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  24. Well that does it! by rworne · · Score: 1

    First they got rid of the maple-oat scones and Tazo tea - and now the porn?

    They really don't want my business, do they?

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  25. The more you know..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what's more surprising to me - That people watch porn in Starbucks or that Youporn has a president.

  26. I'll show them by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    I'll download my porn BEFORE I go to Starbucks!!! Just like I do when I fly!

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  27. What if it's not just porn? by LaughingRadish · · Score: 1

    Suppose Starbucks or someone other party wants to censor stuff that's not pornographic. Suppose Company A pays Starbucks block content from Company B.

  28. Porn in SB? Jesus, just look at the logo.... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    I have never gone to Starbucks before, as always though coffee tasted like ass, but now that Starbucks's is going to block all adult content....well, challenge accepted!

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  29. VPN = View Porn Now! by BobC · · Score: 1

    'nuf said.

  30. I can by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority.

    Have you ever BEEN on Starbucks WiFi? No way anyone is streaming anything over that pitifully slow network, much less porn.

    I am on conference calls sometimes where the audio is from people in different places all over IP, and the people who broadcast from cafes (including Starbucks) have maddeningly terrible audio.

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    1. Re:I can by swillden · · Score: 1

      You really can't, at least not with any sort of authority.

      Have you ever BEEN on Starbucks WiFi? No way anyone is streaming anything over that pitifully slow network, much less porn.

      I have. Some are okay, most suck.

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    2. Re:I can by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      porn can be pictures, not video.;

    3. Re:I can by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Ok, I admit that ASCII porn exists, therefore technically you could view porn at Starbucks.

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  31. Enough is Enough by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I'll say! Another damn temperance movement is on the march. Anybody remember the history of that?

    Well, I am interested to see how tough this new firewall is, because if they can block, it can only mean it's too easy for others to block.

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  32. That seems reasonable to me by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I mean it's a coffee shop, c'mon

    That being said, good god is it terrible coffee.

    Americans, my condolences, your coffee really is truly awful.

  33. They've been under pressure for a while. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

    It's not just Enough is Enough, the organisation mentioned in the article. The anti-pornography organisation National Campign on Sexual Exploitation (Formerly Morality in Media) has been trying to push Starbucks (and other companies) to block pornography for years.

    I can't see any reason for starbucks not to block porn, really. It doesn't cost much, and even if it's totally ineffective, it lets them save face any time a customer complains about seeing something they would rather not have. It probably just took a few petitions before the issue was considered important enough for the board to pay any regard to it at all.

    1. Re:They've been under pressure for a while. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Because I've spent the last fifteen years insulting organisations like theirs on the internet.

      I started insulting them when I read an article which quoted an FRC representative calling for states to ban HPV vaccination as it encouraged underage sex, and I just never stopped. I read what they say, and I write comments against them. Sometimes detailed intellectual criticisms, sometimes crude trolling, whatever seems appropriate. I make sure I understand thoroughly those I intend to mock.

  34. Re:Net neutrality arguments? by Calydor · · Score: 2

    The connection is complimentary. You could just as well be trying to complain about what KIND of chocolate a hotel leaves on the pillows in their rooms, or perhaps which sports game a bar is choosing to show on their TV.

    I don't approve of censorship, but Starbucks is (fortunately) not an ISP. Your cable company is. And before you get into it, the law would be simple: Any service provider who is getting their service from another service provider can filter as they please, UNLESS that upstream provider is not available to the customer as a civilian living at that specific place. Bam, Starbucks can filter if they get through Comcast, but Comcast can't filter.

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  35. Who in hell watches porn at Starbucks? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    People watch porn in public libraries, where creepy bums are a legally protected class.

  36. that is why by sad_ · · Score: 1

    that is why i download all my pron first before going to starbucks!

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  37. "Now" they have a way to stop it? by sabbede · · Score: 1

    There have been options for filtering adult content for a while. A long while. So what do they mean by, "now we have a way to stop it"? "We finally decided to click that option in our firewall management consoles"?

  38. 4G by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

    4G is generally faster than most "Free" wifi.

    Go sit in your car and watch pr0n. Just try not to get hot latte in your lap.

  39. OH RLY!? by hellhovnd · · Score: 1

    Nothing could ever block Tor.

  40. First they took the nipples from the siren... by Too+Late+for+Cool+ID · · Score: 1
    The siren on the logo used to have nipples, so I guess Starbucks comstockery started long ago.

    Kidding aside, tt's their wifi, so they can dish it out to users however they want.

  41. PornStar(bucks) by iTrawl · · Score: 1

    Sounds like somebody needs to make a film called PornStarbucks. The pun is good, and the location just made headlines.

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  42. Too much Monkey Business by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 1

    Yes, she's *that* Donna Rice.

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  43. Re:Net neutrality arguments? by Solandri · · Score: 1

    Comcast, Verizon, etc. all get their Internet service from other Tier 1 (and in some cases Tier 2) providers like Level 3. Any civilian can get service from L3. You just have to pay a ton for it because their lowest tier of service is so much more than any single individual would need, and they're gonna charge you for the cost of laying fiber to your house. So cable companies would still be exempt under the conditions you've laid out. I'm not being obtuse here, I'm trying to point out why it's a problem if you define a law as "I just know" certain companies should be covered and others exempt. The arguments I'm putting forth are the arguments the cable ISPs would use in court to exempt themselves from Net Neutrality.

    I've been trying to push you, hoping you could arrive at the correct answer on your own. But I don't have time to continue monitoring this thread so I'll give you the answer. The difference between Starbucks and Comcast as an ISP is that Comcast has a monopoly in most of the areas where they provide service. You don't have to use a Starbucks for WiFi. You can go to another Starbucks, or a McDonalds, or a friend's house to leech off their free WiFi. Not so with Comcast. For most U.S. households in Comcast territory, Comcast is their only choice for cable Internet. And if Comcast decides to do something with the Internet service not in the best interests of its customers, the customers have no recourse. They cannot flee to get Internet service from another company. Their only choice is to live with Comcast's restrictions, or do without Internet.

    As that monopoly is artificial (granted by the local government) rather than a natural monopoly, the government likewise is free to add conditions like Net Neutrality to the terms of that monopoly. No grandiose national law with majorities in both branches of Congress and the signature of the President is needed. No fuzzy definitions of what constitutes an ISP. Each city council simply has to decide for themselves that if they're going to give an ISP a monopoly, they're also going to require that ISP to treat data access neutrally. (But this gets back to my bigger point - why do you even need Net Neutrality in the first place? These local governments can simply allow multiple cable companies to offer Internet service in their city. And ISPs which try to throttle bandwidth would simply bleed customers to ISPs which don't throttle, automatically discouraging the behavior Net Neutrality is trying to prevent.)

  44. Porn banned on their wireless? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Are there a lot of Starbucks where 4G isn't available anyway?

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