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Tumblr Will Ban All Adult Content On December 17th (theverge.com)

Tumblr, the underground social media site known for its pornographic content and tight-knit community, will be instituting a major change to its guidelines in a couple of weeks. The company said in a blog post today that it will permanently ban adult content from its platform on December 17th. The company flatly stated that "adult content will no longer be allowed here." The Verge reports: Banned content includes photos, videos, and GIFs of human genitalia, female-presenting nipples, and any media involving sex acts, including illustrations. The exceptions include nude classical statues and political protests that feature nudity. The new guidelines exclude text, so erotica remains permitted. Illustrations and art that feature nudity are still okay -- so long as sex acts aren't depicted -- and so are breastfeeding and after-birth photos.

After December 17th, any explicit posts will be flagged and deleted by algorithms. For now, Tumblr is emailing users who have posted adult content flagged by algorithms and notifying them that their content will soon be hidden from view. Posts with porn content will be set to private, which will prevent them from being reblogged or shared elsewhere in the Tumblr community.
"Blogs that have been either self-flagged or flagged by us as 'explicit' per our old policy and before December 17, 2018 will still be overlaid with a content filter when viewing these blogs directly," the blog post reads. "While some of the content on these blogs may now be in violation of our policies and will be actioned accordingly, the blog owners may choose to post content that is within our policies in the future, so we'd like to provide that option..."

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  1. LOL out of business within one year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would they put the gun to their head and pull the trigger?

    1. Re:LOL out of business within one year by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're scared of enforcement of SESTA/FOSTA by the Republicans' mutaween. Rock. Hard place.

    2. Re:LOL out of business within one year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Democrats voted for it just as much as Republicans. Censorship of porn is a bipartisan love affair.

    3. Re: LOL out of business within one year by imcdona · · Score: 3

      They aren't scared of enforcement from SESTA, they got banned from Apples App Store due to child pornography. https://m.slashdot.org/story/3... it appears their solution is to ban all porn in an effort to get back in the app store.

    4. Re: LOL out of business within one year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's because Republicans had a house majority. Relatively speaking both parties voted for it with almost the same percentage.

    5. Re:LOL out of business within one year by nwaack · · Score: 1

      Umm no, Dems voted for that too. The congress critters on both sides of the aisle love this as much as liberals love spending other people's money.

    6. Re: LOL out of business within one year by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      What are these âRepublicans â you speak of? Theyâ(TM)re gone now. Tumblr is afraid of being targeted by Pound Me Too.

    7. Re: LOL out of business within one year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's because Republicans had a house majority. Relatively speaking both parties voted for it with almost the same percentage.

      Are you unable to calculate a simple percentage? I mean, there's a goddamn button the calculator that will do it for you.

        It's not "almost the same percentage".

      223/236 .944

      185/197 .939

      94.4% vs 93.9%

      Seems like they agree to me. In fact, I challenge you to find something else they agree on more closely.

    8. Re: LOL out of business within one year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No doubt. Also, nudity is nudity - it doesn't matter how 'political' it is. Clearly the snowflakes are in charge at Tumblr now, only they are retarded enough to make such a statement, straight off of a college campus. The only way to stop this shit is to stop supporting it altogether. May Tumblr burn to the ground. It's sad, too, Tumblr was great. Millennials truly destroy everything that they touch - we really need to start telling them to put their grubby little hands away, given that their parents wouldn't.

    9. Re: LOL out of business within one year by tepples · · Score: 2

      GOP: 13/236 opposed = 5.5%
      Dems: 12/197 opposed = 6.1%
      They're not exactly the same percentage, but I doubt the difference between the two is statistically noticeable.

    10. Re:LOL out of business within one year by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Spending other people's money is also a bipartisan thing. They just disagree on where to spend it. Democrats love expansive social programs, but Republicans love to throw money into America's already-bloated military budget, and both love to subsidise influential industries such as media and agriculture.

    11. Re: LOL out of business within one year by dnaumov · · Score: 1

      They were removed from iOS appstore outright because their porn filters were not good enough. Thatâ(TM)s likely to have more impact on business.

    12. Re: LOL out of business within one year by sarren1901 · · Score: 1

      Pope, you don't really understand the difference between "exactly the same" verses "almost the same"? I think you are just trolling.

    13. Re: LOL out of business within one year by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      They need to implement end to end encryption, so nobody can see what they are doing. If you can't get your app on the iphone you'll jailbreak the iphone or get android. If you can't share your porn on tumblr you'll go elsewhere for that.

    14. Re: LOL out of business within one year by Calydor · · Score: 1

      I can't be bothered to do math before getting my morning coffee, but if a single one of the Republicans was a Democrat seat instead, and had still voted for, would the percentage come closer to equal or would it actually swing over to the other side?

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    15. Re:LOL out of business within one year by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Where is the pro-porn party when you need them?

    16. Re:LOL out of business within one year by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Shit, forget porn. I'd settle for a pro-nipple party. Baby steps.

    17. Re:LOL out of business within one year by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      You sure it didn't have anything to do with them 'deleting' front-facing pages that were serving child porn, but leaving the CP accessible if you knew the URL's? Or...didn't you hear about that?

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    18. Re:LOL out of business within one year by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      Why haven't all porn sites shut down then?

    19. Re:LOL out of business within one year by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Considering studies show that porn probably reduces grey matter meaning it makes you dumb, perhaps there is a public interest in reducing consumption of porn, unless you want us to create Idiocracy.

    20. Re:LOL out of business within one year by CommanderRyalis · · Score: 1

      The Librarian Party would like to say high

  2. Re:Thank the Repukes... by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah.
    Its a fundamental issue with this country.
    Our standards on sex and violence really need to reverse.

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  3. Well I guess I'll erase those bookmarks then... by skam240 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, what other use does tumblr have?

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    1. Re:Well I guess I'll erase those bookmarks then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was just about to create an account to view some explicit content that's behind a login screen, but I guess I can forget about that.

      I guess I should stick to DeviantArt. They only use a simple age check.

    2. Re:Well I guess I'll erase those bookmarks then... by nanospook · · Score: 1

      Maybe that is something they would like to find out? Hard to do when all their content is porn..

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  4. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Nourishment ... actually male ones can do that too, but that requires a different hormonal makeup than the human male normally produces. Fruit bat males, on the other hand...

  5. Re: Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3

    By state law in NY, both are identical -- toplessness is legal for all genders. Also, why is my being Jewish supposed to be construed as some sort of primitive insult?

  6. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or the US needs to split up and let the Bible Belt/flyoveria go their own way and leave more open-minded places at peace...

  7. Containment Breach by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the nice things about Tumblr is that it served as a nice home for exactly the sort of people who liked the kind of content you would often find on Tumblr. If you're not familiar with the website, it has a reputation for featuring the kind of erotica that tends not to be published on more mainstream porn sites. So now you're going to get a lot of furries, adult-baby fetishists, and all manner of other sexual oddities looking for new homes. That's right folks, 40-year old men that like jerking off to erotic My Little Pony art, coming soon to a web community near you.

    If the government should subsidize anything it's Tumblr and 4chan. You'd be hard pressed to find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, but it keeps those people from being somewhere else for most of the day.

    1. Re:Containment Breach by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bring back USENET!

    2. Re:Containment Breach by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know? One thing I've come to realize over the years is that because the most important sex organ in the body is the brain, fetishes tend to span practically anything you could imagine.

      Societal norms and peer pressure tend to keep a lot of them in check. (In general, folks are never very comfortable when they're stuck being in proximity to others who think and act too differently from what they're used to.)

      But yes, they're always going to seek outlets for their "special interests" -- and I think it's a good and healthy thing to provide people with those outlets.

      It's interesting to me how certain fetish interests have gotten enough mainstream exposure so it's more socially acceptable to provide gatherings for them, while the rest are still hidden away. (If your thing is BDSM, for example? Most of that has become "trendy" enough that even back in the 1990's, most major cities had at least one nightclub with a "fetish night" with that as the theme.)

      I'd never advocate government sponsoring anything like Tumblr. The less government spends my tax money on "projects du jour", the better off I am. But this recent legislation that cracks down on all of this has gone way overboard.

      And yeah, I fail to see much attraction to using Tumblr for the G and PG rated content? Truth is, they're "yet another photo/video gallery" service otherwise. SnapChat, Instagram, etc. All performing the same functionality for people, more or less. Tumblr got a foothold BECAUSE they were known not to censor your content much.

    3. Re:Containment Breach by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I miss my ASCII porn!

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    4. Re:Containment Breach by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Informative

      Back? It never went away.

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    5. Re:Containment Breach by gman003 · · Score: 1

      I don't think that's quite the case.

      Of all the social media sites, Tumblr is by far the closest to "just show me the feeds I picked, screw everything else". You see 3-4 algo-suggested, and 1 staff-suggested, blogs off to the right, just the title/description/avatar and not mixed in with your feed like Twitter does. Other than that, it's literally whatever you chose to see. Which is what people actually want out of social media, honestly.

      And I really doubt much of the squicky porn resides on Tumblr. I mean, look at DeviantArt, for just one. There's a full battalion of furry sites, and other niche kinks have sites of their own. Most Japanese smut artists use Pixiv, or maybe Twitter, and let's be honest, they're behind a lot of the weirder shit. (Remember that weird "Bowsette" porn meme? It broke into Twitter's trending section, barely made a peep on Tumblr.)

    6. Re:Containment Breach by nawcom · · Score: 1

      Bring back USENET!

      alt.binaries.* never went away, you just need to pay for a provider as no one is going to give you access to petabytes of data covering thousands of days of retention for free. Then there are the websites that index the content and provide generated NZBs, most of the decent ones being private these days. Binary content on usenet is very much alive and active.

    7. Re:Containment Breach by tepples · · Score: 2

      Usenet "went away" in the sense that major home ISPs have ceased operating news servers for their subscribers' use.

    8. Re:Containment Breach by guruevi · · Score: 1

      If you have to ask where that home is, you're not really in those communities. Tumblr is not and has never been a mainstream site for those, there are plenty of open and uncensored sites for those.

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    9. Re:Containment Breach by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto same for HAM radios, BBSes, etc. :P

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    10. Re:Containment Breach by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of Usenet providers out there. You don't have to rely on your ISP to provide it to you.

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  8. Damn it! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    *Now* where will I go for porn on the Internet? I guess it's back to looking at extra-curvy pieces of driftwood.

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  9. Female-presenting nipples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can we get a ruling on traps?

  10. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When a woman becomes pregnant, their breasts produce milk. When their child is born, that child feeds off that milk. The nipple is the location that the child latches on to in order to suck out the milk.

    That clear things up for you?

  11. No more porn? by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    I wonder why they don't just have an adult section - break the site up into 2 aspects. Otherwise, I'm sure tumblr will simply be a thing of the past.

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    1. Re:No more porn? by zlives · · Score: 1

      because, morally speaking, "they" don't see a need for the adult site. god created sex for procreation only, not for entertainment.

    2. Re:No more porn? by jythie · · Score: 1

      One downside of doing something like that is it shows weakness, and the types of groups that want sex hidden away tend to be REALLY into these kind of dominance games where any compromise means they are winning and they double down to make life worse.

  12. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It passed the House by a vote of 388 to 25 and the Senate 97 to 2. This appears to be a bipartisan screwing. Then again, I would not expect someone that chooses to use derogatory names for political parties to be someone that bothers with facts. Partisan narratives is all that matters.

  13. Orange Man Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Uhm, It passed 97-2 in the Senate with half of the Nay votes being Republican and 388-25 in the house with 13 (Over Half) of the Nays being Republican.... So basic Math would tell you that it had MORE Democrat support then Republican......

    1. Re:Orange Man Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      When it passed, the HOR was 236:197 R:D.

      236-13 = 223 Repuke votes
      197-12 = 185 Demoquack votes

      You failed basic math. Mazel tov!

      So, 94% of Republicans and 93% of Democrats.
      Seems like they are in agreement on this issue.

    2. Re:Orange Man Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He can fail his math all he wants, the fact that you are even engaging in a bargain despite 185 votes being an astounding enough number to paint you as a hypocrite, and a dumb one at that, by throwing all blame on Republicans, is in itself telling of your integrity. The fact that Feminists are emulating the Christian "original sin" by merely rewriting "everyone suffers from it" to "males suffer from it by existing" and that they've also taken on the puritanism from Christians, heralding a visible double standard and contradictory switch of liberalism from it's sex positive and sexually liberal past into a mutaween trend (i hope you know what a trend is in the dictionary), is not one which shall be ignored or put a blind eye towards.

  14. Oh really, who voted against??? by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Informative

    The bill passed the senate 97 - 2 - exactly one Republican voted against, and one Democrat.

    It had no-one from your supposed two "parties" that would dare stand against it. If Hillary had been president you'd have exactly the same bill...

    If you aren't libertarian by now, this is the bill that should have made that happen. Instead you are spewing partisan nonsense just trying to earn points for your "side". - do you even care about the bill? About the tens of thousands of women negatively impacted?

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    1. Re:Oh really, who voted against??? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not libertarian. I'm anarchist. I'm honestly hoping and praying for divisions in the US to tear the country apart. If the US is broken up into 5 or 10 different countries, there will be more choice of governments to live under, with one or two being likely to be in your corner of the political spectrum (my happy place is left-libertarian).

    2. Re:Oh really, who voted against??? by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Informative

      The problem is that that's how it was supposed to be: sovereign states that run themselves how they want and a Federal government that only does the absolute minimum required to maintain a country with respect to the rest of the world, stuff like defense, protect the border, enact treaties... stuff like that, and ensuring basic rights. In the past 150 years, though, that's been flipped on its head, where the Federal government runs almost everything by default and the states run whatever's left. If the U.S. had remained how it was initially meant to be, your "broken up" scenario wouldn't be necessary because the states could maintain much more diversity.

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    3. Re:Oh really, who voted against??? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      The US would have been better off if the American Revolution had been stamped out by the British and the Founding Fathers locked up for treason. Case in point: Canada... Also, the British abolished slavery in their colonies 30 years before Lincoln did his thing.

    4. Re:Oh really, who voted against??? by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

      However, given the federal government has effectively usurped most state powers/rights, it feels like one giant state, doesn't it? This is what happens when we abandon the freedoms our once-great country was founded on.

      And much of that usurpitation is due to a big giant carrot the feds hang out to the states in the form of money. For example, states are free as to how they implement education, but to get federal money, they need to follow a mega-crapton load of regulations.

    5. Re:Oh really, who voted against??? by fropenn · · Score: 1

      States are still more powerful than the federal government and states are still the big players in many services that most directly affect the lives of residents. Let's compare:

      Federal government:
      -Defense
      -Treaties
      -Health care policy
      -Some entitlements (primarily social security, Medicare and Medicaid are run in collaboration with states)
      -Interstate trade
      -Collecting and distributing income taxes

      States:
      -Education
      -Health care
      -Entitlements (some in collaboration with federal government)
      -Roads
      -In-state trade
      -Public health activities
      -Anything else not explicitly given as a federal power in the constitution


      States are still tremendously powerful yet they often get ignored in political activity because political parties see federal elections as a high-profile way to raise money. People who think the federal government has all the power (or even most of the power) misunderstand all of the things their state governments do.

  15. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're living in the past. These days it's the "progressives" that fight porn too because "muh objectification" or whatever. The whole SESTA shitshow was advocated for by social activist groups and BOTH parties voted for it largely unanimously.

  16. Talk about opportunity! by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So now you're going to get a lot of furries, adult-baby fetishists, and all manner of other sexual oddities looking for new homes.

    What a giant opportunity for someone to scoop up the 99.9% of Tumblr users posting erotica, and quickly switch them to a new platform...

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    1. Re:Talk about opportunity! by zlives · · Score: 1

      wish i had the resources...to make that happen while also being able to block illegal/child porn (which is tumblr ban cause)

      what is interesting that tumblr will be able to block nipples but couldn't block child porn the same way?!!

    2. Re:Talk about opportunity! by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      But the trouble is that the real reason this is happening is that Tumblr have failed to find a way of making money by providing free access to thousands of gigabytes of porn. They've also noticed that the percentage of their traffic costs used to move all of this porn around the internet is rather... high. It's almost as if it's not possible to run all this crap for free.

      If you want porn, just pay for the god-damn stuff. It's not like it's very expensive.

    3. Re:Talk about opportunity! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      You'd sure think they could have figured out an ad strategy that would have worked, but then I always imagined the Venn diagram between Tumblr users and AdBlock users would be rather high...

      Can't monetize cheap I guess.

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    4. Re:Talk about opportunity! by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      > They've also noticed that the percentage of their traffic costs used to move all of this "pr0n" around the internet is rather... high

      Part of that is because their "reblog" button was STUPID - it reloaded the entire Dashboard page in the background. If they had changed it to "Instant reblog" and skipped entering extra notes, they could have saved quite a bit of bandwidth. But this is all academic at this point, whoever is in charge obviously doesn't want the site to survive.

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    5. Re:Talk about opportunity! by Kreela · · Score: 2

      Mastodon is busy this week.

    6. Re:Talk about opportunity! by sad_ · · Score: 1

      can't find it, but Mewe invited all tumblr users to go to their social network, explicitly mentioning nudity and being your sexual self.

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  17. Re:Terrible mistake by budsetr · · Score: 1

    and games. Duh.

  18. Re:Thank the Repukes... by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thank the Repukes for SESTA/FOSTA.

    No biggie, the democrats will repeal it when they take over, right? Just like they did with asset forfeiture, mandatory sentencing, NAFTA, the patriot act, war in Afghanistan, and the entire middle east. Yeah, that's the ticket. Democrats will fix everything.

    *sigh* So sad to see this tribal bullshit is still so effective

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  19. Thanks apple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    for making the world a more boring place again

    https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/03/tumblr-adult-content/

  20. The Internet isn't (just) for porn by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1, Informative

    While it seems apparent many people here aren't aware of it, there are huge troves of content on Tumblr which isn't affected by this in the least.

    I'm not saying this is the right decision - or the wrong decision - but the idea that Tumblr exists just for porn is silly.

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    1. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by zlives · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lets see if the usage statistics back your statement in about a month...

    2. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by zlives · · Score: 1

      was it ever profitable?
      i also wonder how much non-porn content viewing was there because people accidentally viewed it while looking for porn... you know... synergistic browsing.

    3. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by DaTrueDave · · Score: 1

      was it ever profitable?
      i also wonder how much non-porn content viewing was there because people accidentally viewed it while looking for porn... you know... synergistic browsing.

      Good questions. They seem to have a pretty robust ad system that places ads inline with the content. I suspect that a lot of their content is viewed on their app, making ad-blocking difficult. I bet they turned a profit.

      Like most others, I think Tumblr will fail with no adult content.

    4. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by sarren1901 · · Score: 1

      Oh, I don't know about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    5. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      How on earth would Tumblr have been profitable in the first place?

    6. Re:The Internet isn't (just) for porn by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Last I checked, Tumblr was failing with adult content--I was reading business news and the like when it was bought by Yahoo and for a while afterwards, and I don't think they ever reported a profit...unless you count the money that traded hands when it got sold to Yahoo. It's been a bit of a dumpster fire for ages.

  21. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Which is why the US needs to be run into the ground by both parties. Weaker or non-existent Federal government = more choice of political systems for people to live under.

  22. Larry Flint by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    Larry Flint would not be amused. He has an opinion linked here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt...

    1. Re:Larry Flint by jythie · · Score: 1

      We seem to be in a no-win situation when it comes to these tech giants.

  23. Re:LOL by zlives · · Score: 2

    and there is no place for sex in our culture...?!!

  24. Twisted values in the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anyone can turn on the TV and watch people getting shot, beaten, raped, etc ... and there are very few people who say anything about it. Sure, it's all acting and fiction, but it sure looks real.

    But a woman accidentally flashes a nipple during a Super Bowl half-time show - something babies see several times a day - and the country has a melt down - "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" or they find it "offensive".

    Most of this country is a bunch of juveniles that really needs to get a grip and grow-up.

    1. Re:Twisted values in the USA by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Yep, America has too many Puritans of all stripes, religious and secular alike. Basically, even "secular" and "liberal" people have been corrupted by American religious values, even though they don't call them religious or even know where they come from.

    2. Re:Twisted values in the USA by DigressivePoser · · Score: 2

      Anyone can turn on the TV and watch people getting shot, beaten, raped, etc ... and there are very few people who say anything about it. Sure, it's all acting and fiction, but it sure looks real.

      And the actors who make millions with the fake shootings are the first ones on the megaphone waxing philosophically over why the 2nd amendment hasn't been repealed every time there's a shooting in real life.

  25. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No biggie, the democrats will repeal it when they take over, right?

    They voted for it. Why would they repeal their own legislation?

  26. Tumblr will also be renamed to... by raftpeople · · Score: 2

    Ghost Town

    1. Re:Tumblr will also be renamed to... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ghost Town

      Wouldn't Tumblweed be more appropriate?

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  27. Re:Thank the Repukes... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Sorry, maybe you didn't notice that I was responding to the person singling out the republicans.

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  28. Re:Thank the Repukes... by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nonono
    I am already in one of the more saner places in Florida.
    I do not need it to get worse.
    You can shoot people here, claim self defense, and the prosecution has to prove otherwise.

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  29. Tumblr on December 18... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    (Crickets chirping in background...)

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  30. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Why not just split off the content in question and prevent the app from accessing those forums to satisfy Nanny Apple's sense of decency? The content can still stay on the desktop site, mobile site, and be available in the Android app since Google is not as much of a bunch of censoring assholes.

  31. Re:Thank the Repukes... by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being anti free speech and anti liberty isn't exactly open minded.

  32. Re:Terrible mistake by Harinezumi · · Score: 1

    Don't forget cat pictures!

  33. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    Assuming reciprocal travel/work agreements between the fragmented parts of the US, you could still move out of Florida, right?

  34. Re:Thank the Repukes... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    lactation?

  35. My response is summed up in this song... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1
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  36. That's why you should be Libertarian by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I'm anarchist. I'm honestly hoping and praying for divisions in the US to tear the country apart. If the US is broken up into 5 or 10 different countries

    How does *50* different countries grab you? Because that is what states were supposed to be, independent entities.

    Become libertarian and push for more stuff to get pushed down to state control rather than the pipe dream of a quasi-totalitarian federal government ever ceding control entirely.

    It's already close to that way in some regards with things like drug laws, We just need to push for more aspects like that, from a state level (worked for drug laws, should for other things as well).

    Incidentally this is also why as many people as possible should support and use digital currencies like BitCoin so that banking regulations cannot be used as a means of control.

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  37. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    ... people have a titty fit at the sight of a tenth part of an areola.

    Ah yes, nipple-gate, that horrible cataclysm that left behind it a wasteland of thousands of American children psychologically scarred for life.

  38. Re: Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Jealousy, probably. Everyone knows that kosher nipple is the best nipple.

  39. Porn harms... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    ...my wrist!

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  40. Re:Thank the Repukes... by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

    Like that would ever happen.
    The south would lock their borders so hard. You won't be able to get in or out.

    And the strong possibility that I would be arrested for sedition or being heretical.

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  41. Re:Thank the Repukes... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    I thought this was Apple. The Tumblr app got banned from the App Store because of child porn, and they couldn't figure out a way to just remove the illegal stuff so decided to ban everything pornographic.

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  42. Re:Thank the Repukes... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    Thank the Repukes for SESTA/FOSTA.

    Hmm...from other posts of the voting records, look like Democrats supported that law just as much as the Republicans did.

    Seems both parties are as against pr0n as the other...sad.

    Morality shouldn't be legislated.

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  43. Re:Thank the Repukes... by mukinrestak · · Score: 4, Informative

    You think there's a problem with the prosecution having to prove a crime? That's exactly how it's supposed to work!

  44. Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We'd also still likely have slavery in this nation. A key moment in the consolidation of federal power in our nation was the civil war.

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    1. Re:Is that really all bad? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Slavery died out in Brazil and Cuba by the 1880s. It was on its way out by the 1830s, even before the US Civil War, since the British had banned it in their colonies like Trinidad and Jamaica.

      So it would have likely ended within a few decades on its own. Bonus points if the US had let the CSA go, then quietly bankrolled a slave uprising. The slaveholders would have ended up dangling from trees and/or expropriated, not turned into rich landlords who retook much of the power in the South after Reconstruction ended.

    2. Re:Is that really all bad? by LostMyAccount · · Score: 2

      I think it's reasonable to argue that slavery would have ended because it was economically inefficient. Slaves are expensive compared to machines and free labor.

    3. Re:Is that really all bad? by DigressivePoser · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Eventually the US still likely would have passed the 13th amendment.

    4. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 2

      How does slavery leaving the Caribbean equal the guarantee that slavery would just naturally leave the South? The South was very clearly fighting for its constitutional right to own people as seen by every state that bothered to file a justification with it's succession, or by the credible quotes of its first president.

      (In referencing another of your posts in this article's general thread) I grew up in the North Bay California punk scene and once upon a time knew quite a few pirate punks. You anarchists all seem to be horribly naive in your faith that decentralization will solve everything. It all rests on a mass mindset change just as communism did.

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    5. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Slavery is not about sound economics. It has always been about power.

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    6. Re:Is that really all bad? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      The South needed the North's industrial goods; the North also had enough money to finance a slave revolt. A revolt with the planters ending up dead and/or expropriated would have been a more equitable outcome than the planters coming back into power after Reconstruction was over.

    7. Re:Is that really all bad? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Exactly, and the planter class regained that power after Reconstruction. Thus fomenting a slave revolt would have been a better way to do things...

    8. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      When the US fought it's bloodiest war over it and desegregation had to be forcibly fed to our Southern States fairly recently you think slavery would just magically disapear like a breeze if no effort was spent on it? My apologize but you seem to be terribly naive.

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    9. Re:Is that really all bad? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      My thought on this is that slavery never ended, since the same people ended up leading the South after Reconstruction as prior. Whereas if the South had been allowed to leave, but the North had bankrolled a slave rebellion, the planters would have ended up without power, if they had even remained alive.

    10. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      What a gripping fantasy you've spun and I would love to believe in what you have spun. Meanwhile, in real life slave revolts literally never worked.

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    11. Re:Is that really all bad? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Haiti, 1803.

    12. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      A) Slave rebellions never work
      B) The institution of black inferiority was culturally rooted not only in the wealthy but in the common person as well. How else could the South have raised such an army of white people to fight for its cause?
      C) Such culture entrenchment would have require genocide to properly root out in an immediate context and I don't think any sane person would want that. To ad a level of personal anecdote to this, I've had a handful of black friends over the years and not a single one of them who has been to the South has a kind thing to say about it.

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    13. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Oh fine, fucking Haiti. The problem with that is that on Haiti the majority population where black slaves which it why it succeeded.

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    14. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 2

      The problem with your reasoning is that slavery gives a false sense of power to even the non slave owner. Southern whites volunteered in the masses to defend their "superiority". Economic self interest was not a factor any more than modern southern self interest factors into Southern voting habits.

      It's all philosophy.

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    15. Re:Is that really all bad? by youngone · · Score: 1
      The US still has slavery:

      Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

      The thirteenth amendment has an except clause, so your private prison owners can continue to own slaves for profit.

    16. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      By default prisoners have surrendered their freedoms. That's why they are held against their wills.

      Nice way to flock to the latest lame wrist alt-right bullshit though.

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    17. Re:Is that really all bad? by youngone · · Score: 1

      I was not aware that idea had anything to do with the alt-right.
      I also don't see how the text of the thirteenth amendment which specifically allows for slavery (involuntary servitude) has anything to do with prisoners surrendering their freedom.
      You do realise that the US has the largest prison population of any country don't you?
      Many of these prisons are privately owned. Many of the inmates are forced to work for little or no money, which makes those private prisons even more profitable.
      Are you arguing these things are not true?

    18. Re:Is that really all bad? by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

      Many poor economies persist because of cultural biases, and the lack of self-interest in understanding that was universal; economics wasn't well understood by anybody in 1860. Racial superiority wouldn't have been enough to sustain an agricultural slave south in economic competition with a capitalist and industrialized north. The South would get bought out by the North.

    19. Re:Is that really all bad? by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      Sorry to burst your ideological bubble but in the U.S. only 8.4% of prisoners are in private prisons. In no universe is 8.5% of something many.

      Does the U.S. have an incarceration problem. Yes it does. But the fact that there are too many private prisons is not the cause of this problem.

      I suspect the cause is that there are too many laws combined with the problem that there are too many law breakers.

      Some people blame drug laws, but only 22 % of people in prison are there for drug crimes.

      41% are in prison for violent offenses.

      So while legalizing drugs might result in a smaller prison population the best way to reduce prison populations would be to figure out why so many people think violence is an acceptable practice in resolving disputes, attaining money or stuff.

    20. Re:Is that really all bad? by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      Slavery in the USA would be gone by now. The USA was the only Western style country where a war was the means of making slavery illegal. Internal and external political pressure would have made it illegal in the end anyway, just as it did in the British empire.

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    21. Re:Is that really all bad? by youngone · · Score: 1
      A quote from the Wikipedia article "Incarceration in the United States":

      Perhaps the single greatest force behind the growth of the prison population has been the national "War on Drugs". The War on Drugs initiative expanded during the presidency of Ronald Reagan. President Reagan established the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986. According to the Human Rights Watch, legislation like this led to the extreme increase in drug offense imprisonment and "increasing racial disproportions among the arrestees".[36] The number of incarcerated drug offenders has increased twelvefold since 1980.

      I also found this with a quick search, which just makes me feel that even 8.4% of private prisons are too many.
      As far as your violent crime stat goes, you ought to be aware that more than 90% of cases are settled by plea bargains, so what the prisoner was sentenced for is almost irrelevant.
      I don't live in the US, and don't subscribe to your Democrat/Republican dichotomy, so my ideological bubble might not be what you expect.

    22. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Sigh... What on earth would getting rid of the thirteenth amendment do to our incarceration rate?

      Not a single human being has been sentenced to jail in the name of the 13th amendment. Furthermore, people were being incarcerated in this country well before the 13th amendment. You have no clue what you are talking about.

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    23. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Right, something that brought our country into it's bloodiest war ever would have just magically gone away in a region that has needed federal intervention to protect minority rights not just once but twice.

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    24. Re:Is that really all bad? by skam240 · · Score: 1

      I find your completely unsupported sense of inevitability unconvincing. Russia or China were never "bought out" by the US due to their inferior economic systems.

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    25. Re:Is that really all bad? by youngone · · Score: 1

      And your reading comprehension is poor.
      I was arguing that the US did not get rid of slavery with the 13th amendment, because it says "No slavery, except if we put you in prison.
      If you're in prison in the US, you can be used as slave labour, and people sometimes are.

    26. Re:Is that really all bad? by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      Sorry to burst your ideological bubble but in the U.S. only 8.4% of prisoners are in private prisons. In no universe is 8.5% of something many.

      In every universe can 8.5% of something be "many." It's just not "most," or a "plurality."

      "Many" people were out of work when unemployment was 8.5%

  45. Re:Thank the Repukes... by irrational_design · · Score: 1

    So... you are in favor of bringing back the Confederate States of America? That turned out so well last time.

  46. Ban breast feeding too by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    Can they ban breast feeding and after birth photos too? Leave those to sites dedicated to them.

  47. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have the impression that the 'more open-minded places' are as closed minded as the other lot. Just my perspective from across the ocean. Here it is the same really: so called liberals are just assholes with other set of prejudice than the right wing sort. Not sure how we can get out of this dilemma.

  48. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd have been all for letting the South leave in 1860, then embargoing the CSA and financing a slave revolt. The problem with the Civil War is that the same people running the slave system ended up in charge after Reconstruction ended. If the rich slavers had ended up being expropriated or simply executed, then their legacy wouldn't have stuck with the US for the next 150 years in the form of Jim Crow and a generally draconian legal system by Western standards.

  49. Re:Thank the Repukes... by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

    I think it's fascinating how feminists and bible thumpers wind up advocating for the same thing.

  50. I wasn't that deeply entrenched... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    I wasn't that deeply hooked into Tumblr, but today all I did was reblog a post with a screen capture of the ban, and delete everything else.

    Have fun fighting it out with Pinterest and Etsy, that's all the content you're going to have left!

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  51. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    It's not fascinating at all. It's expected. Both the feminists and Bible-thumpers are *OMG!* American, and have been indoctrinated to be prudish and Puritanical. They're two sides of the same miserable culture.

  52. The line between curation and censorship by tepples · · Score: 1

    I thought the line between curation and censorship involved whether the interfering party had A. a government-granted monopoly or B. market power (as defined in antitrust theory) over the dissemination of information. To what extent does Tumblr have either, other than sharing a parent company with RF spectrum licensee Verizon Wireless? The Larry Flynt editorial you linked mentions Google, Facebook, and Apple, which are far more likely to have market power than Tumblr.

  53. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A nipple is a harmless organ. In fact, a positive one, since it's a source of a life-giving fluid. It's not even a hand or foot, it's soft, squishy, and can't be used to beat anyone up. Its only two purposes in life are nourishment and enjoyment. There's no rational argument to ban images of female nipples.

    A gun on the other hand, has only two uses: to maim or kill. OK, you can hunt for food with one too, but most of the guns in "gun porn" ain't hunting rifles.

  54. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

    Which is what the Articles of Confederation were, which failed, and which brought us our current constitution.

  55. Re:Thank the Repukes... by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

    We already tried that but Abraham Lincoln sent the union army to invade us.

  56. Tumblr by beep54 · · Score: 1

    Hum, let's see, who owns Tumblr? Why, it's Yahoo, isn't it? Is anyone surprised by this? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone....?

  57. Blame our politics, not the parties by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    any congress critter who voted against that bill was going to get hammered during reelection with "soft on crime" adverts. The two who voted against it are both completely "safe". Short of a dead girl or a live boy neither of them have to be afraid of the "Willie Horton" effect

    Still, I was a bit shocked Bernie and Warren went in for it.

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  58. Sure, if you show up at your primary by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    and kick the right wing "Clinton Democrats" out. You'll be there, right? 'cause the left wing tried to primary Pelosi and got shot down last time...

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  59. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by Lanthanide · · Score: 2

    "Let me throw out an alternate opinion, one which I haven't seen in the previous 100+ comments."

    Just highlights what a very small minority you find yourself in.

  60. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    STDs, recklessness, and unwanted can be solved by education on birth control, consent, and condom use. The attitude in many parts of the USA is not to talk about it at all, rather than teaching safety.

  61. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by ath1901 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I saw far too many studies of how damaging it is to the human male.

    [citations needed].

    I haven't seen any credible studies at all so if you have anything, I'd like to read it. There is a lot of pop-culture conjecture but very little scientific support. I do remember reading a study about the lack of high quality porn studies though. From what I remember, most studies were non-experimental (literary analysis etc) the few that were experimental were low quality (poor design, small sample etc).

  62. Re:Thank the Repukes... by currently_awake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You could shrink the US Federal government and give back all that power to the states, so the USA worked like the European Union. Like how America was designed by the founding fathers.

  63. Re:Thank the Repukes... by currently_awake · · Score: 1

    America IS being run into the ground by both parties. At the current rate of deficit spending I expect America to default on their debts in 2040.

  64. Tumblr by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    I thought that's what tumblr was for? From what I read, it's a hookup/one night stand site and a place for prostitutes.

  65. Re:Thank the Repukes... by currently_awake · · Score: 1

    There is no practical difference (actions speak louder than words) between Democrat and Republican. A small but well financed group of Republican supporting "Democrats" (Pelosi, Hillary, Obama etc) has taken control of the party and ensures that ONLY the Republican Agenda sees the light of day. The sole purpose of the Democrat party is to bottle up the progressives and socialists and prevent them from having a voice in American Federal Politics.

  66. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

    The prosecution ALWAYS has to prove you're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That's the very foundation of liberal principles of justice and law. The only thing Stand Your Ground does is say you have no legal obligation to retreat and may meet force with force in any place you're legally permitted to be.

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  67. For these reasons by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Why would you think that 50 individual quasi-totalitarian states with minimal oversight are better than one federal government which has everyone watching it?

    There is a huge reason - with the federal government, everyone may be watching it but - MNO ONE CAN SEE ANYTHING. It is too vast, too far removed (physically and in all other ways that matter) to truly observe.

    Something managed by a state can be pretty big also. But it changes the dynamic when ANYONE can pretty easily go visit the people who run everything, can go talk or protest or whatever. It's all more local people and not Graft Central so few states would get people coming from all over to get a piece of that tasty government pie...

    And that itself points to a big reason, that the sums involved are less and so the reward for control is less, distributed across 50 states instead of one giant winner-takes-literally-all lump.

    The only aspect of the Trump presidency that has disheartened my slightly is that even as people continue to cast Trump as the most demonic force politics has ever seen - even in this case they STILL demand the federal government retain more and more control... it's because of the sad delusion they think they can take it all back in short order. I wonder how the second four years of Trump may change minds on that score...

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  68. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by s_p_oneil · · Score: 1

    I'm not disagreeing with or disparaging your opinion, but I don't think a change that alienates a statistically significant percentage of their user-base is the best way to go about it.

    They could add something like Google's "safe search". Instead of forcibly removing content, they could simply flag it into different categories and allow users to configure their own profiles to specify "Don't show me X". If they're doing this because Apple is kicking the Tumblr app off the store, I imagine Apple would reconsider if the iPhone version of the app enforced certain "safe search" features.

    I know content classification is not "easy", but if they can find porn well enough to remove it, it's not any harder to flag it instead of removing it. A feature like that might make (almost) everyone happy. It would work well for cases like yours, for Apple's app store, for the users that want to read/post porn (unless they're Apple fan-boys who ditched their computer after getting an iPad ;-), etc. I imagine the true prudes simply wouldn't be happy because everyone else was happy, but you know, the needs of the many...

  69. A very foolish decision by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    They should have simply restricted it more. Better age gate, or something.

    That site appeals to a very very wide subset of interests, there's stuff there you can't get elsewhere and from my understanding, it's the majority of the traffic to the site.

    Honestly there's such weird stuff there, it's great to make you feel normal, no matter how off you think you are, there will be stuff on there too make you feel very very normal.

  70. Re:Thank the Repukes... by brantondaveperson · · Score: 2

    You're begging the question of whether or not knowledge about sex is, in and of itself, a bad thing.

    Here's a hint. It's not. Knowledge is power, and an educated population is an asset. Suggesting that an education in the way in which your own body functions is anything other than a good thing is extraordinary. Further, your argument is nothing more than a "think of the children" rant, in which you assume that knowledge of sex is damaging, and proceed from there.

  71. Ironic by reanjr · · Score: 1

    I generally associate Tumblr with softcore porn. Like suicide girls with fewer tattoos. Wonder what else it's used for...

  72. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

    Underwear advertisements must be a dreadful minefield for you too.

    Anyway, you saw "far too many" studies on the damaging nature of the images to which you found yourself too often inadvertently exposed. Perhaps you could provide a link to one or two of them? I've never found any.

    No-one would begrudge you the method by which you've found satisfaction in a life too much undermined by distractions - but I really, really don't think you're in anything but a very small minority. Learning to give and take has nothing to do with "pornography", a term that doesn't even have a useful working definition in any case, and has everything to do with growing up. And education.

    Good luck in your life, I hope you stay happy. But banning pornography, a move I venture to imagine you would be in support of, will do nothing to improve people's lives.

  73. there is open minded by aepervius · · Score: 1

    and there is having your mind so open that your brain fall out and all kind of crap comes in. Complete 100% free speech and liberty means 100% anarchy and rule of the mob or the strongest. That is why we have series of law curtailing both in various fashion in all countries. The question (the answer to which is not *objective* but rather cultural and subjective) is where do you put the limit and what do you enforce. And as such understanding that "some people put the limit at different point" is far more open minded than a blind mantra of "any limit is anti free speech" (especially since the one not liking those limit are the same one wanting to make the life hard for lgbt and remove protection from them - the same way they used to enjoy oppressing people with a skin color different than white).

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  74. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by Waccoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Porn is fantasy and not meant to be taken seriously. If porn is interfering with your relationship, or ability to have one, then you're doing it wrong. If you're indulging in porn, you're doing it wrong. If you have little self-control when it comes to porn, chances are you have little self-control in other parts of your life, too. Discriminating against porn is just making it a convenient scapegoat. That's especially true here in the USA, where we love to demonize porn, which results in a paradox where our porn is just terrible, and we indulge in it because we know it's terrible.

    This is why I have such a love/hate relationship with porn. On one hand, I like what it represents, both physically and emotionally. On the other hand, I can't stand most mainstream porn, because it's often boring, stupid, and strongly emphasizes only the physical aspect of sex. It's too shallow, fantastic, over-the-top (like CGI in movies), tends to overplay the "naughty" angle, and it hardly ever looks like anyone is enjoying what they're doing.

    I'm an artist, but I cut my teeth on comic strips and comic books. To me, story, character development, and humor are very important. I draw lots of porn, but I try to make my stuff more creative, and it usually focuses on committed couples enjoying the finer parts of their relationship. Alas, this seems to be a bit uncommon, and it's probably why I have so many fans, despite the fact that I have little spare time and don't post artwork very often. Given that my content is, in my opinion, a bit better than the typical hedonistic trash, I certainly don't agree with the decision to ban porn just because other people, arguably even most people, do it "wrong".

    The porn we tend to like is a symptom of more fundamental cultural issues. Discriminating against adult-rated content will not fix that, and it just reminds me of all those web sites that try to enforce quality standards (which never works and always causes the death of the site). In your case, I think you just finally realized that the kinds of porn you used to like... just sucks. Good for you, but that doesn't justify making it harder for me to responsibly enjoy what I like (or try to fix it if I don't).

    Sorry, but childbirth isn't friendly to most women's bodies, and you don't see any porn stars with stretch marks.

    Yeah, but that's a culture problem, not a porn problem. Cue the movie with the heroine with no zits or wrinkles, slashing bad guys left and right with a katana, and then emerges from the scuffle with perfect hair and all her makeup intact. That's also why I hate most mainstream movies!

  75. Re:Thank the Repukes... by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

    Sorry, education has been tried. People who have advocated that have had free reign for twenty years and all that's happened is that STDs, recklessness, kids being born without two committed parents, innocence lost, etc. have increased to epidemic levels.

    Unsafe acts are not safe. For example birth control is only 99.9% effective. So how long does it take the average sex starved teenager to engage in 1000 sex acts? Three years? Five Years? That's mean time between failure, and means a sexually active female has almost 100% chance of an unwanted pregnancy. Condoms in the field are only 85% effective. That means 15 out of 100 people who use condoms are vulnerable to infection every year.

    So we can talk about it, but sex crazed adults don't want to talk about facts, they want to indoctrinate children to have them follow the same unsafe practices that are causing the problems.

  76. Re:Thank the Repukes... by BadDreamer · · Score: 1

    You're doing anything but OK. Due to not teaching children about sex, you have extremely high rates of unwanted pregnancies, teen STD's, parents denying their children HPV vaccines and other societal ills which countries which teach children about sexuality do not.

    You advocate keeping kids "innocent", and in the same breath explains why that is impossible - children know about sex, and that it is nothing bad. They're humans, and humans have survived until now by having sex. It's nothing kids learn about from seeing Tumblr images. It's something humans know how to do on their own.

    What humans, and kids, do not know on their own is how to have sex safely, and how to avoid STD's and unwanted pregnancies. Keeping kids "innocent" simply means keeping kids in the dark about how to stay safe, and therefore the "innocent" kids get pregnant and get STD's.

    Your standards really need to reverse. Really badly. Kids need to learn more about sex at an earlier age, or they will continue to have "innocent" sex, ending in pregnancies, diseases and shattered families.

  77. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by BadDreamer · · Score: 1

    So, you find that there is too little porn which actually explores the way real world relationships work, and actually teaches how to have sex in a meaningful way. That is a good observation, and coincides with what I find.

    And then you are happy that one of the few sites on the web where alternative approaches to pornography, like the one you lament is missing, are explored.

    You're not making any sense what so ever.

  78. For the record by Joe+Branya · · Score: 1

    As an act of civic courage I'd like to say the following

    1) I look at Tumblr porn regularly. Actually it is in bursts; sometimes an hour at a time for days on end, other times weeks will go by with no porn. My internal state is reflected in my internet usage. I'm fascinated by the categories and what they mean. There should be more academic research but the academics I know say any publication on the subject is a death sentence professionally. And there is clearly a lot of Russian/foreign influence pedaling and hidden ideology on Tumblr. The new owners want clean hands and they are willing to pay the financial price. I both applaud them and regret what we are loosing.

    2) Google searches for porn are revealing. Hit "Safe search off" and check it out. But no Tumblr material shows up unless you specifically ask with a search like "Tumblr, bukakke (sic), interracial (or just IR), and trannie" The results are amazing but largely hidden from the average viewer. This is how censorship now works. And maybe it isn't a bad idea for the corporation and the viewers who don't want to see the stuff.

    3) I want to watch it but am deeply troubled by the idea that 11 year-olds are being mentally and emotionally formed by this stuff.; Ask the kids. It is always "Well, some of my friends..."; ask "Do your parents know?" and they give you the "Are you kidding" look. So if you are an adult with kids, ask- privately. Especially the kids of your own gender. The results are everywhere and totally invisible to most adults. Tumblr Ana sites are hugely informative- and dangerous; troubled 18 year-olds with daddy issues know how to suck dick like a pro (and they are smart, thoughtful half-formed little humans). Tumblr legitimizes everything.

    4) Congresspeople in both parties are as troubled as I am. I have no idea if this is good legislation or not, but something needs to be done here. How do we balance the need to protect kids, my right to watch all the porn I want and the privacy of people like me? I'm not sure but age has made me a lot more humble about the problems of honorable people grappling with issues like this.

  79. Well... by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    ...they got tired of being in business and having users, eh?

  80. Adios Tumblr by dafradu · · Score: 1

    This is like thepiratebay announcing they will only serve legal torrents :)

  81. Re:Thank the Repukes... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    "Sex crazed adults" -- sounds like you either need to get laid, or are a priest. Go back to your church and preach there, Father.

    As far as teen pregnancy and STDs, their rates are typically highest in US states in the Bahhble Beilt where sex-ed is seriously restricted and sex is stigmatized.

  82. Re:Thank the Repukes... by jeremyp · · Score: 1

    So how long does it take the average sex starved teenager to engage in 1000 sex acts?

    Did you try reading that sentence back to yourself before posting it? Did you look up the meaning of the verb "to starve"?

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    All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
  83. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by jeremyp · · Score: 1

    my relationship with a wonderful woman who is a terrific lover already.

    Lucky you. Not everybody has that. In fact, it's a meme here that most Slashdot readers do not have that.

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    All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
  84. Usenet became paywalled by tepples · · Score: 1

    There are plenty of Usenet providers out there.

    None of which are bundled in the price of home Internet access. This puts Usenet behind a $75 to $120 per year paywall in addition to what you already pay your ISP per month and per gigabyte for Internet access. (Source: "Best Usenet providers of 2018" by Desire Athow)

  85. Re:Thank the Repukes... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

    Protip: 9 times out of 10, when you read or hear someone discussing "State's rights", it's a copout.

    "I don't know if gays should be able to marry... Let the states decide!" This approach conveniently lets the politician not take any kind of position on the actual issue.
    Obviously, there are some issues the Federal government doesn't need to be involved in. Those issues are never the ones discussed. It's always a thinly-veiled attempt to get the federal government out of areas they do need to oversee - environmental protection, healthcare, consumer financial protection, etc. Issues which did not exist in a recognizable way in 1776. The Founding Fathers did not write a Gospel with 100% infallible prophecies. What they did was establish a modifiable framework for government, knowing that it will need to be adjusted at some point.

  86. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    If you have little self-control when it comes to porn, chances are you have little self-control in other parts of your life, too.

    Your post is on point except for this one line. Humans display addictive behaviour for all manner of enjoyment often from something that can be as simple as an endorphin release. People get addicted to attention on social media due to this mechanism. They get addicted to substances that affect the mind (e.g. sugar) in the same way. Now porn itself firstly gives you that same sensation by itself, but couple it with the additional benefit of being often associated with an orgasm and you have and incredible addictive power.

    Having no self-control when it comes to porn is no different from any other clinical addiction and by extension has no relation to self-control in other parts of your life.

  87. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but childbirth isn't friendly to most women's bodies, and you don't see any porn stars with stretch marks.

    Not only do you see plenty of porn stars with stretch marks. Not all people end up with bad stretch marks or other "unfriendly" effects of childbirth, but you're ignoring that pregnancy porn is an entire fetish genre in itself.

    That you chose to seek out the perfect and the "impossible" is on you. Personally I like tumblr for the amateur, real, and "possible" content.

  88. Re:Thank the Repukes... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

    There's literally no difference between this law and the law that says you don't need to try to run away from people who break into your home to rape and kill you. None at all. Also if you want to live somewhere with a disarmed populace may I suggest one of the countries with the highest rates of gun control, like the latin american or African dictatorships? Maybe China? North Korea?

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    A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
  89. Re:Thank Zardoz... by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

    Yes, but the gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with the plauge of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of the Brutals.

  90. Nipples? Seriously? by marcelus · · Score: 1

    I really like the Ello concept where you are required to tag your content. which allows for filters at CONSUMER'S discretion.

    On a more general leve, I can't underestand the relationship between (many) americans and nudity.

    Where I live, if someone walks down a beach wearing ONLY a gun holster , people will discuss the gun, not the tits or penis :)

    I've read several American people describing their trip to a no-swimsuit-allowed european sauna as if they had been to Mars and back !!

    I can understand it on a personal level, but some oil in the moral compass can't hurt.

    Relax :) (and apologies for grammar and spelling mistakes)

  91. Re:A contrary opinion: and not because I'm prude by ath1901 · · Score: 1

    First, a couple of caveats, porn/sex addiction is a highly debated diagnosis. I will not enter that debate since it seems to be yet another can of worms.

    Most of the linked articles concerns self reported problematic behavior. They do not show causality, i.e. porn causing problematic behavior, just that some report their porn use as problematic. I have mostly skipped those articles and may have missed something interesting.

    The first section contains 20 reviews so it seems like a good place to start:

    The first 8 concern addiction and Compulsive Sexual Behaviour (CSB). Thus not any causal effects of porn.

    Number 9 sounds better: Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports. Behav. Sci. 2016, 6, 17
    It suggests causality and claims to be a review but is makes some dubious claims. Let's see if someone who knows more has reviewed it... ooops:
    https://retractionwatch.com/20...
    That was a lot more damning than I had imagined.

    Turns out, one of the authors, Gary Wilson is also the author of the book "Your brain on porn" which may be related to the website you linked to (yourbrainonporn). Also, he is donates all the proceeds from the book to the Reward Foundation which has a clear anti-porn agenda. This was not disclosed in the original paper but was later corrected.

    In short, I doubt I'll find anything useful further down the list but let's continue. The linked articles are not suspect even if Gary is.

    10-16 is more addiction and CSB. I stopped at 17 but that was another addiction study, not showing a causal connection between porn and addiction (that is, there are people with problematic porn habits but it isn't necessarily porn causing those habits). 19-20 are more about addiction.

    Ok, so out of the first 20, one was perhaps relevant but it turned out to be utter shite. Up next 20 neuroimaging studies.

    Again, 1-3 are studies about self reported problematic behavior / addiction.

    Number 4 is interesting though. It is a small study (28 ppl) but it showed a worse performance in a working memory test right after watching pornographic pictures (compared to controls). They did not test how long the effect lasts though so it may be a very short lived effect.

    Number 5 is similar showing "negative impact on decision making" when porn pics are right on a "bad" deck of cards vs a "good". (i am getting a bit tired now so won't go into details). Again, probably a very short lived effect and difficult to extrapolate the effect into real life.

    Number 6 is another addiction study (I think).

    Number 7 is a funny one. Psychology Today summarizes it as NOT showing porn addiction exists. Yourbrainonporn interprets it differently of course.

    Number 8, correlation between something in the brain and self reported porn use. Not causation. Did I mention I'm tired now?

    Number 10-20 seem to be about self reported addicts, CSB or showing some kind of correlation and not causation.

    Number 21 is a bit interesting. Basically, abstaining from porn is different than abstaining from your favorite food when it comes to delay discounting.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...

    Number 22-40 is more of the same (but I reading through it a lot quicker now). A lot of studies on people with self reported problematic behavior, some correlation studies etc. Nothing about how porn actually affects people. Just that some people have problems with it (and a lot of specifics about them).

    Many of the web authors claimed conclusions are just conjectures. It is often claimed that study X shows that porn "causes" Y but when you read the study it did not show causality or if the effect transfers to ordinary life. Reduced decision making skills while watching porn is hardly a problem as long as you don't watch porn while making important de