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Doom Turns 25: The FPS That Wowed Players, Gummed Up Servers, and Enraged Admins (theregister.co.uk)

On December 10, 1993, after a marathon 30-hour coding session, the developers at id Software uploaded the first finished copy of Doom for download, the game that was to redefine first-person shooter (FPS) genre. Hours later IT admins wanted id's guts for garters. The Register: Doom wasn't the first FPS game, but it was the iPhone of the field -- it took parts from various other products and packaged them together in a fearsomely addictive package. Admins loathed it because it hogged bandwidth for downloading and was designed to allow network deathmatches, so millions of users immediately took up valuable network resources for what seemed a frivolous pursuit to some curmudgeonly BOFHs.

The game was an instant hit -- so much so that within hours of its release admins were banning it from servers to try and cope with the effects of thousands, and then millions of people playing online. It spawned remakes and follow-up games, its own movie (don't bother) and even a glowing endorsement from Bill Gates.

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  2. The Doom Technique by mkoenecke · · Score: 4, Funny

    I still tend to go through unfamiliar museums by keeping right and working my way around that way so I do not miss anything. I call that the "Doom Technique" because that's how I would explore various levels in Doom, way back when. Vaguely-related note: I still have the original 3.5" floppy containing its predecessor, Castle Wolfenstein.

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    1. Re:The Doom Technique by Headw1nd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Interesting. I myself circle strafe through museums so I can concentrate on the exhibits while I move.

    2. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just chill in the alley and shoot the garbage cans.

    3. Re:The Doom Technique by Immerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You realize that strategy only actually works for solving traditional "one path" mazes, right? All you need is one cyclic path curving to the left with further spaces inside it, and you'll never reach those additional spaces. A lot of paths and architecture, (not to mention labyrinths, where maze paths might not have any dead ends), will keep many of its secrets against such a strategy.

      Still, a not a bad starting point, so long as you're alert to its stark failings.

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    4. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you give me an example via an image? I can't quite grasp what such a maze would look like.

    5. Re: The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to do this!

    6. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is how I first explore those mirror-mazes until I figure out the more "direct" path. I, too, would like to see a "maze" which you can't just keep your hand along the left or right walls until you find the exit. Unless, of course, the exit is in the middle of the map instead of the entrances and exits on the edges.

    7. Re:The Doom Technique by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Here's a common design where the strategy would fail: https://www.curbed.com/2017/5/...

      A large central courtyard with a building wrapped all the way around it. You walk in the front door, turn right and explore all the outside-facing rooms in the building. But, so long as it's possible to go all the way around the building "ring" inside (say, there's a single circular hallway through the middle of the ring), you'll never reach any of the rooms facing the courtyard, nor the courtyard itself.

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    8. Re:The Doom Technique by mfnickster · · Score: 4, Funny

      People look at me funny when I keep pushing against museum walls and going "uh! uh! uh!"

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    9. Re:The Doom Technique by NathanWoodruff · · Score: 0

      I still have the 5 1/2 floppies to the predecessor to Castle Wolfenstein.... Commander Comic.

      Nathan

    10. Re:The Doom Technique by pi_rules · · Score: 5, Funny

      People look at me funny when I keep pushing against museum walls and going "uh! uh! uh!"

      If you left your pants on it would be less weird.

    11. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You say that but you haven't seen his pants.

    12. Re:The Doom Technique by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Any maze in which you aren't looking for the door outside but the stairs going up or down. Or given game logic, a teleporter.

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    13. Re:The Doom Technique by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      They do? Around here they'd think you were an exhibit. Wouldn't be the weirdest thing in the museum either.

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    14. Re:The Doom Technique by TheZeal0t · · Score: 1

      I was playing a friend of mine who was pretty wicked at Doom. We were in this area where there was one way into a pit that you had to jump into, and one way out, via teleporter. When you jumped it, it made the "uh" grunting noise. I waited around the corner, pushed against the wall to grunt, and then followed him down in the pit when he was sure I had jumped in ahead. I blasted him with a rocket just as he turned around! He had no idea what hit him!

    15. Re:The Doom Technique by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      I assume everyone here knows about the silent BFG trick, right? You push the wall just as you start charging the BFG. The game only allows one noise from you at a time, so the grunt replaces the BFG noise, and then you strafe around the corner and unleash it. Everyone knows to run and hide when they hear the BFG winding up, so the first time you get nailed with a silent one it's a giant WTF.

      I know this worked in Doom 2. Not sure about the original Doom. I don't know if I even remember that game with how much Doom 2 we played.

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    16. Re:The Doom Technique by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      You mean Wolfenstein 3D.

      The original Castle Wolfenstein is an ancient 2D game from 1981, originally for the Apple II.

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    17. Re:The Doom Technique by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      "You'll need a stiff drink, when you see the size of these damned trousers!"

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    18. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you don't. You have either Captain Comic or Commander Keen.

    19. Re:The Doom Technique by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1

      whenever i'm walking and i have to pick up the pace, i unthinkingly make a 'whoosh' sound.

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    20. Re: The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why shoot when you can just punch th...aaargh!!

    21. Re: The Doom Technique by UglyMike · · Score: 1

      Wasnâ(TM)t that Commander Keen? With the futuristic blaster and the obese gorillas throwing fireballs from behind bars?

    22. Re:The Doom Technique by NathanWoodruff · · Score: 0

      Well, yea, you are correct... I have Captain Comic... Call it oldtimers. I also have Commander Keen but I think I downloaded that.

    23. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, too, still have the original floppy that I used to copy my friend's purchased copy of Woflenstein onto.

    24. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but that design would not be called a "one path" maze.

    25. Re:The Doom Technique by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you misread my original comment - As I said, the strategy *will* work reliably for "one-path" mazes. So long as you ignore the exit and continue until you reach the start again, you will visit every location in the maze. As soon as you have two paths in a maze reconnect to create a loop though, then the "keep one hand on the wall" strategy can no longer be counted on to give you total coverage, though I *think* it will still find the exit, provided you start at the entrance and not at some random point in the maze where it may trap you in a loop.

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    26. Re:The Doom Technique by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I keep going up to the curators and asking if they have any quests for me.

    27. Re:The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, word choice is important when you want to be understood.

      It's an island. You can imagine it from that alone. Any secrets within the "island" walls (eg blue keycard) will not be encountered.

      Tracing the walls with the old "Always Turn Right" will never touch the island. Note that you WILL always find the exit/entrance with ATR (unless 3D maze).

      There are probably mathematical proofs about this shit or something. I suppose the ATR path can be "stretched out" like an uncoiling snake, which means always/never blah blah mathfag XYZ blah blah fixed number of forks are actually blah blah.

    28. Re: The Doom Technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I used to do this!

      Then you took an arrow in the knee?

    29. Re:The Doom Technique by neoRUR · · Score: 1

      I think your taking about Duke Nuke Em, not Doom.

  3. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh seriously? Thatâ(TM)s unusually harsh

  4. IPX by ledow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Played it.

    Over IPX.

    With multiple players.

    Over a parallel port cable.

    I kid you not.

    There was an old DOS TSR (that I have never been able to find since) that was a packet driver that operated over either a parallel port or serial port daisy-chain from one machine to the next. Wasn't fast, but it was fast enough. Better than serial alone as you could have several machines connected and it was faster. And everyone had parallel ports - I have no idea if EPP or whatever was an option that long ago, but it was faster than the available serial. And you had several of serial/parallel most likely so you had the ports to daisy-chain.

    Back when nobody had network-cards in their machines and kid's budgets didn't run to even 10Base2 to play their games - Oh, but dad! - we improvised. I don't even remember how we found it (no Internet for us back then), or what it was called, but we used that little TSR for an awful lot of things that weren't otherwise possible without a proper network card.

    The only bit we bought was an ever-increasing daisy-chain of serial and parallel cables using whatever people had discarded or we could find. To this day, I could literally make any combination of 9/25pin M/F to 9/25pin M/F cable for tens of meters of length just from those old cables in my bits box.

    I remember it was a faff with whatever the packet driver was, and then having to load some (Novell?) TSR to allow IPX etc. all in a DOS boot config (we had DOS 5, I think, and 4DOS utilities and a bunch of PC Magazine freeware - AMENU - to make a menu just to load up that config and play networked).

    Hell, I even remember playing Quake over the same link, but that was only temporarily as only our friend had another machine powerful enough to run that, and then we upgraded to 10Base2 and then 10BaseT not long after.

    But I have gamed IPX over parallel port via DOS. People always thing I got it wrong whenever I say that.

    1. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that TSR was common enough, I played doom with my brother over a parallel port cable.

    2. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Doom multiplayer with IPX over LPT bro fist*

    3. Re:IPX by Miser · · Score: 2

      That brings me back.

      I played DOOM over IPX, on actual Ethernet, on a Novell Network.

      "Shared" the folder so multiple machines could access the executables, and played multi player. On a 10Mbps hub based (not switched) network.

      Brought that segment to its knees. :)

      Fun times.

    4. Re:IPX by max99ted · · Score: 1

      +1 for network ARCNET doom matches via IPX. Half the day was spent troubleshooting :)

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    5. Re:IPX by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Ahh the days of LPB.

      Actually, I did play Doom on the original PS1 with the rare serial cable option. Required two units and two TVs. Loads of fun.

      I know, it's not PC, but it is Doom so it still counts :)

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    6. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I played it at university with a fully internetworked IPX system. We prompty took down the entire network and Doom was evermore baninated.

    7. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same. Rented an extra psx from the video store. Grabbed a copy of Final Doom and gamed for hours over a weekend. Good times.

    8. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I played over a null modem. Most people don't even know what that is today.

    9. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember I picked up some surplus genuine Novell NE2000 ISA 10 base 2 network cards, and ran a coax cable down the hallway...

      Good times.

      Though, Descent was more my jam than Doom in those days.

    10. Re:IPX by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Played it.
      Over IPX.
      With multiple players.
      Over a parallel port cable.

      Up hill (both ways).
      In the snow.
      ...

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    11. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just came here to say I did the same - played over serial, parallel (hello LapLink!), and then FINALLY 10Base2 with terminator caps! Oh, the memories - THANK YOU!

    12. Re:IPX by leomekenkamp · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, âthatâ(TM) tsr! I am almost sure it came from simtel somewhere. Oh, those were the days...

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    13. Re:IPX by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      We played it over IP network on some of the chemistry department’s SGI workstations. SGIXDOOM upgraded by pulling the full version WAD file off one of our PCs.

    14. Re:IPX by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Yep, it was the novell ipx driver. Got a 3.5" disk with that critter downstairs. Remember all those hours you spent trying to cram basic drivers below the 640KB line and then force other things into high memory, but still reserving enough space to play the game? 4MB of memory...what a shit show. Now we worry about computers that don't have 8GB or 16GB as standard for simple desktop, and games that are 50GB-100GB in size.

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    15. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm "young" enough to have just missed the IPX networks.. Thou I remember using parallel ports and custom made cables for FastLynx, an application that would copy files between machines the quickest way known to man at the time! Not too long after that 10Base2 network cards started popping up in discarded machines, some even had UTP as an option, so we grabbed those and starting building LANs at home, and sharing dial-up internet via Wingate !

    16. Re:IPX by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      I played Falcon (3.0?) with my friend over a 9-pin serial cable made by Cables To Go in college... it was something like a 116 foot cable and I held on to it for many years afterward... good times :)

    17. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend had a 486 with VLB, L2 cache and 8MB memory (eight stick of 1MB, 9bit, parity). It could run Duke 3D.
      But do you remember "dead kilobytes"? I think a RAM chip may have been dead here or there. Full RAM count didn't come up on POST, there was a small multiple 64K missing. Depending on what we did the game could fail to run!
      With no networking or with null modem only (which costs nothing in RAM), Duke 3D and Doom didn't give a fuck about your config.sys and conventional memory. Sound Blaster or clone didn't need a driver. Both use a DOS extender, 32bit CPU needed. Of course you wanted other things (mouse driver, CD-ROM, himem/emm386), for other games.

      Me a year earlier, we had a perfectly good 486, even better, but only 4MB and small HDD too. Wanted to buy 1MB sticks but they didn't sell them anymore. So, we were fucked. But had we known better (I had barely two-digit age) we could have kept this 486 by upgrading it.

      Computer hardware was still scary back then. We could have bought a 3.3V 486 (DX/4 100, DX/4 120) and put it in the 5V motherboard, to great prejudice. Not that I knew. Someone DID this, not in the same decade so he had fun watching it burn. It still worked after putting the original CPU back anyhow.

    18. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I played it over IPX on an IBM PS2 running OS/2 Warp. Crazy days.

    19. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half the day was spent troubleshooting :)

      Yep.
      Show up around 9am
      Everyone there by 10
      Everyone setup by 11
      Troubleshooting from 11-2
      Play from 2-midnight...

    20. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have loved this.
      I didn't even find something to transfer files over parallel, so I had to transfer doom 2 at 19200 bauds using Windows Terminal (to an old IBM with a dead proprietary floppy and a weird UART). You get to choose x-modem, y-modem or z-modem, each slow as molasses, but there wasn't an option for 38400 bauds which the hardware supported. HOURS later I still got to play the game! in a small windows and beeps on the clunker. The serial cable was ridiculous and awesome featuring a long generic DB25 cable, a modem's cable, a genre changer, a DB9 to DB25.

    21. Re:IPX by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      That brings me back.

      I played DOOM over IPX, on actual Ethernet, on a Novell Network.

      "Shared" the folder so multiple machines could access the executables, and played multi player. On a 10Mbps hub based (not switched) network.

      Brought that segment to its knees. :)

      Fun times.

      Actually, one of the first few patches to Doom was to reduce network utilization. Apparently the early versions were so good at taking down corporate networks (because home networking was but just a glint back in the day) with traffic that workplaces banned its use.

      So a later version came out that greatly reduced network utilization so you could at least play it and not take down the network at the same time.

    22. Re:IPX by Gumby · · Score: 1

      Back in my day, we had to write our own games, in the snow!

      At uni there was a 3-D vector FPS on HP Chipmunk workstations called Tunnel. You where in a maze, with the view being just the perspective outline of the walls, and the other player was a cube outline with a tetrahedron on the front side. So there would only be about 12 straight lines on the screen, except when the other player was present,

      We wrote our own version on DOS PCs (8086s! not ATs!) and linked 3 PCs with serial ports so 3 of us could death match. Jesus we played that for hours!

      Update: Apparently, it was originally ('73) called Maze War:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War

    23. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > We wrote our own version on DOS PCs (8086s! not ATs!)

      *8088

    24. Re:IPX by jittles · · Score: 1

      Ahhh one of my older brothers was a security guard at HP when they closed down a bunch of facilities over in Sunnyvale and threw away a bunch of hardware. We raided that trash for coax network cards and used Novell and IPX to play Doom and eventually Duke Nukem. I think that Doom allowed a 4 person multiplayer? I forget. Anyway, not long after that and I was playing Warcraft 2 over dial-up modem with my friend. And oh how the world changed when one of my friend’s dad, who worked at Cisco, got an ISDN line and we were able to download boatloads of MP3s and trade them all over school using CDRs. Man. Now I have gigabit fiber into the home and I can download gigs if data in just a few minutes. My how the world has changed.

    25. Re:IPX by Gumby · · Score: 1

      Thank you - 8088 is totally correct.

    26. Re:IPX by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      > "But I have gamed IPX over parallel port via DOS. People always thing I got it wrong whenever I say that."

      I was about to tell you how wrong you are until I saw the rest of your post, pretty cool stuff!

      We got our first 10mbit network cards due to doom, man adding that third player in my group of normally 2 was hectic but worth it.

    27. Re:IPX by habig · · Score: 1

      Actually, one of the first few patches to Doom was to reduce network utilization. Apparently the early versions were so good at taking down corporate networks (because home networking was but just a glint back in the day) with traffic that workplaces banned its use.

      So a later version came out that greatly reduced network utilization so you could at least play it and not take down the network at the same time.

      IIRC, the first version used a token ring style "everybody gets all the packets" setup. Then, they realized that Netrek was doing a much better networking job with point to point packets. Us netrek hackers were happy to have contributed to the general video game corruption of the world.

    28. Re:IPX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, look at you with your fancy parallel cables!

      What I did in order to Deathmatch was take an old electric extension cord, cut the ends off and push it over the serial port's male pins. The soft plyable isolation plastic usually made a snug fit. I will never forget the 2-3, 3-2, 5-5 pinout of the DB9 port (although it gets funkier when connecting DB9 to DB25)

      But I'm spoiled because if that. IMHO the only way to Deathmatch is seeing having your opponent physically sitting across the table from you, and insulting each other in creative ways upon each frag. Remote deathmatch just ain't the same.

        Good times..

    29. Re:IPX by antdude · · Score: 1

      Was that ParaDOOM like in 1994?

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    30. Re: IPX by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure there is a Doom cart for the Gameboy Advance,

    31. Re: IPX by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Terminating 50 ohm resistors.

    32. Re: IPX by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Unless you had an AT&T 6300. 8086 with a real 16 bit bus!

    33. Re:IPX by Miser · · Score: 1

      Interesting! I was young(er) back then, and probably had the version that didn't have the patch.

      My teacher and mentor at the time was nice about it, but was also stern in the fact that I really ought not to be doing that.

      Slightly off topic, but now all those magical systems that I had (remote at least, never physically saw them) access to when I was younger (PDP's, VAXen, Alpha, mainframes, etc) I can emulate on a Raspberry Pi. Most of the time tech doesn't amaze me, but stuff like that sure does.

    34. Re:IPX by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Computer hardware was still scary back then. We could have bought a 3.3V 486 (DX/4 100, DX/4 120) and put it in the 5V motherboard, to great prejudice. Not that I knew. Someone DID this, not in the same decade so he had fun watching it burn. It still worked after putting the original CPU back anyhow.

      Yep, remember a lot of that. I also remember the "volt down" period in the mid-to-late 90's when things went from 5v dimm slots to 3.3v, and in some really screwed up cases 4v. I didn't find computer hardware scary, more that there was so many requirements to "get it to work" I'd line it up with the first cars in terms of complexity. When it worked, it worked well. Hell, when was the last time you needed to use jumpers, dips witches, or break out cross-board jumper wires in order to make hardware work. Nowadays, if a $50k rack dies, I pull it out and slap a new one in. The software does everything to bring it back online and nobody even notices that something happened. ~30 years ago, someone bumping the table could cause a HDD to 'skip' and lose it's seek and would bring down every term-PS/2 hooked up to it. 20 years ago, a 200Mhz IBM server with 64MB of ECC ram, was over $7000 and the hot-swapable SCSI drives were $3500/pop.

      I'm continuously amazed at just how far things have come since even the days of the Vic 20's, recording data on cassette tapes, and $7600 10MB HDD's.

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    35. Re:IPX by Agripa · · Score: 1

      IPX is not routable but we found a way to bridge and tunnel it between where I lived and a friend's house so we could hold dual LAN parties.

    36. Re:IPX by Agripa · · Score: 1

      IPX was not the only protocol to have that problem with games. Some other early multiplayer games used broadcast UDP/IP which had the same problem.

  5. Music for the occasion by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

    Some good listenin' for the occasion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  6. Does John Carmack still post here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember back in Slashdot's heyday when people like him would post here, and the editors would conduct interviews with people like him.

    I remember playing Doom and Duke Nukem 3D across the network in high school, which would probably get me expelled and land me in jail if I was a student now. Those games made me want to learn how to do 3D graphics on the VGA and got me really interested in programming. I remember reading books written by people like Michael Abrash and trying to teach myself things like mode X and how 3D graphics worked. People like John Carmack made me want to become a programmer. Those were good times...

    1. Re:Does John Carmack still post here? by DudemanX · · Score: 1

      It looks like he hasn't posted in over a decade.
      https://slashdot.org/~John+Car...

    2. Re:Does John Carmack still post here? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      I think Doom is partly what got me really interested in computers, and Quake got me into networking; I was a tech servicing consumer electronics before that (VCRs mostly) but I got bit hard by the computer bug in '94. I had a TI-99 in the early '80s, but it just didn't hold my interest; DOS/Win3.11 were so different.
      Much of the appeal of the id games for me was the ability to bring down the console or use the conf files to tweak graphic and network settings, and experiment with the changes, seeing the effects firsthand. Then, there was the advent of the Internet.
      Those were magical days.

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  7. Brutal Doom is better by fluffythedestroyer · · Score: 1

    When a doom 2 add-ons named Brutal Doom is more fun and way better than the reboot made not long ago, you know you fucked up. hehe. Ok not fucked up but come on, its Bethesda, what did you expect hey.

  8. I have only two words to mark this occasion. by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    IDKFA IDDQD.

    I can't remember my mom's birthday but I still know those two codes. :-/

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    1. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll raise you one "IDSPISPOPD" and one "I have no idea of my mom or dads birthdays" with an additional "I get my kids and cats names mixed up"

    2. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by pak9rabid · · Score: 2

      Did somebody say IDKFA?

    3. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IDKFA IDDQD.

      I can't remember my mom's birthday but I still know those two codes. :-/

      Do not forgot IDCLIP

    4. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      IDSPISPOPD

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    5. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Don't forget IDGAF. ;-)

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    6. Re:I have only two words to mark this occasion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow this is awesome, thank you!

  9. First? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first FPS game that could be identifiable as a FPS would be Wolfenstein 3D, also by id.

    Sure, there were other 3d "first person" games, but most were maze runners or tank simulators. Wolfenstein was the first first-person *shooter*

    This is kind of like saying the Ford Model A wasn't the first car mass-produced on an assembly line. That's true, it would be the Ford Model T.

    1. Re:First? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TFS specifically says "Doom wasn't the first FPS game". If we're splitting hairs over what would constitute the "first" first person shooter, it would have been Battlezone in 1980. Not only that, Ultima Underworld did first-person RPG-ing with mouselook months before Wolf3D came out.

      But more importantly, Doom was a revolution in gaming. It took Wolfenstein 3D's gameplay and made it far less clunky, and simultaneously gave players more control over their experience thanks to the WAD. Players had previously attempted to modify Wolf3D, but doing so was very much an exercise in frustration. With Doom's WAD structure, you could arguably replace anything and add whatever you wanted. And thanks to Doom, the whole PC game modding scene took flight and went on to create loads of great things. That alone is worth celebrating.

  10. Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by BrendaEM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quake had true 3D levels that can pass over one another. Quake had 3D adversaries. Quake had network gameplay with Quakeworld. Quake had OpenGL support with GLQuake that launched the GPU world, really starting with the Voodoo 1. Quake had translucent water, which was amazing the first time I ever saw it. And lastly, Quake is still the bar that any small platform must aspire to by answering the question, "Does it run Quake."

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    1. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      Quake had network gameplay with Quakeworld>

      Technically, Quake had network gameplay before Quakeworld, it just used TCP rather than UDP, so it was awfully laggy when moving.

    2. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by froggyjojodaddy · · Score: 2

      I remember the first time I enabled OpenGL mode and was blown away by the visuals. I spent more time just walking around looking at stuff than playing in those first few hours

    3. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Promise? Lemmie guess, you live for vi/emacs arguments.

    4. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Sorry, no.

      Don't get me wrong, Quake was a massive achievement by ID, but Doom was seismic when it launched. There was simply nothing like this available before.

    5. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well maybe not in the PC world, but the Mac did have Pathways Into Darkness launched in August 1993. One of Bungie's first games and a semi-3Dish game like Doom was. Clunkier to be sure, but it did exist. Marathon would follow in 1994 some months after Doom.

    6. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quake had rudimentary physics . Remember the secret Low-gravity level? that was a blast.

    7. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by jittles · · Score: 1

      Quake had true 3D levels that can pass over one another. Quake had 3D adversaries. Quake had network gameplay with Quakeworld. Quake had OpenGL support with GLQuake that launched the GPU world, really starting with the Voodoo 1. Quake had translucent water, which was amazing the first time I ever saw it. And lastly, Quake is still the bar that any small platform must aspire to by answering the question, "Does it run Quake."

      Man I always though Quake was garbage and that was when I stopped playing FPS games.

    8. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And both were shit, to be honest - on par with Wolfenstein 3D gameplay and graphics wise. There was nothing offering the fast paced FPS experience we're so used to today before Doom.

    9. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And only 2 and a 1/2 years later...It's almost unbelievable there was that much of a technological leap in such a short window of time.

    10. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both NetQuake and QuakeWorld used UDP; the improvement in perceived lagginess in QW was due to client-side prediction, which was one of its main innovations over NetQuake.

    11. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DOOM Dreams.

      No other game gave me dreams. Crazy fucking awesome dreams.

      Hell, when awake, I would see the big 55 gallon drums used as trash cans on campus and think I was in the game.

    12. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man I always though Quake was garbage and that was when I stopped playing FPS games.

      Luckily this is a free country so you can walk around being wrong all you want!

    13. Re:Quake Fulfilled Doom's Promise by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      The 3dfx Voodoo cards, they were a game changer.. literally.

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  11. *seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Immerman · · Score: 2

    Really, it only *seemed* like a frivolous use of network resources? In exactly what way is playing Doom, or any game generally, not *actually* a frivolous pursuit?

    Not that I'm opposed to frivolous pursuits, far from it - but if you're making the implied claim that playing a game *isn't* completely frivolous, a little evidence would be appreciated. Or at least a decent argument. Heck, even an anecdote would be a big step up from making such a ridiculous claim completely unsupported.

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    1. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by atrex · · Score: 1

      One could say that it's only 99% frivolous. Playing an FPS like Doom would test and build the player's ability to react to visual stimuli with small hand gestures as well as test a player's memory and exploration skills (where was the door this blue key goes to again?).

      Not exactly skills that have significant application in the real world, unless you're remote piloting a drone and navigating with only it's camera for reference.

    2. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      Humans enjoy entertainment and games as forms of engagement just as they enjoy work and getting things done. I don't think it's a controversial stance to say that video games, board games, sports, or other types of games have value.

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    3. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Agreed - that's a large part of why I'm a fan of frivolous pursuits. It doesn't make them any less frivolous though. If a frivolous pursuit had *no* value, nobody would waste their time on them, and we wouldn't have a word for it.

      Definition of frivolous

      1a : of little weight or importance She thinks window shopping is a frivolous activity.
      b : having no sound basis (as in fact or law) a frivolous lawsuit
      2a : lacking in seriousness a frivolous conversation
      b : marked by unbecoming levity was criticized for his frivolous behavior in court

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    4. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Frivolous doesn't mean valueless though - it just means unimportant and/or lacking in seriousness.

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    5. Re: *seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://info.jkcp.com/blog/professional-gamer-salary-esports/

    6. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by TuringTest · · Score: 1

      Why would enjoying yourself be considered frivolous at all, other than by a badly understood protestant work ethic?

      We're in life to make the best of ourselves and be happy, and playing games (especially social games, like networked Doom) is a powerful way to make yourself happy, thus a very transcendent activity. In the heath death of the universe, it won't matter if you spent your time having fun and enjoying life, or rather working yourself to death; but it will have made a deep difference to you.

      Only if you pursue leisure to the point of becoming unhealthy would it become a frivolous approach; casual gameplay in a healthy environment has nothing frivolous IMHO.

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    7. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by apoc.famine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One could say that it's only 99% frivolous.

      And one would be wrong.

      Hacking Doom, Quake, and UT taught me to code. I wouldn't have hacked on them if I wasn't playing them.

      Building levels for them gave me a way to visualize 3D environments that I later found out not a lot of people have. Not sure if it's cause and effect, but it definitely helped strengthen that skill.

      Working on larger levels and mods taught me how to be a program manager, a skill which is enormously useful the older I get. Hacking on these taught me the value of documentation and code comments, especially as I began working with other like-minded individuals.

      Doing all this taught me about emergent behavior in a way I could never have learned otherwise. Now I really understand how a system design can reinforce or depress user behavior, and I consider that when designing systems.

      All that because I played games so much I couldn't help tinkering with them. I'd never had the drive to do any of that in my teens and early 20s if I hadn't been obsessed with the games. Hell, I wouldn't even have known that such things were possible. I bet a solid 50% of my success in life came from those games.

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    8. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      I think we agree on general life philosophy on this (though I'm unconvinced that the Protestants did) .

      However, consider this - while enjoying yourself is important, any specific activity that contributes to that goal is not - it could be readily replaced with some other enjoyable activity. Contrast that with farming, blacksmithing, and most other "productive" activity, where the end product of that specific activity *is* important.

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    9. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is keeping employees happy not "frivolous"? Doesn't cost anything as long as it's after-hours.

    10. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by epine · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a big jump from Quake to Counter-Strike, and Counter-Strike (or near replicas) ended up training real troops. For real combat. With real weapons. Real wounds. Real blood. Real gravestones.

      What hasn't been pointed out here is that Quake wasn't just innovative for true 3D, but had pretty good 3D physics as well. In particular, you could bounce the grenade off walls and ceilings at different angles and velocities in all kinds of unpredictable ways. I wasn't that big into rocket jumping, but I think that was a thing, too.

      The physics alone basically changed the game from a finite universe (the usual stream of self-contained rabbit warrens with endless texture make-overs) into an effectively open-ended combat dynamic, even if it was open-ended in a fairly small way.

      The biggest limitation with single-player Quake was the polygon budget. The game had to ration your opponents in every region. You could have maybe a dozen standard monsters, or up to three boss monsters in the current zone (if they were carefully limited in graphic complexity). The whole place ended up feeling more like a crypt frozen in time, or a haunted temple only activated by Indiana Jones daring to enter the portal. There was no sense that the place had its own daily rhythm, or economic rhythm, or even a religious or cult rhythm.

      Making a big noise here rarely had any sustained effect on what woke up there.

      The game wasn't horrible for alternative routes, but the alternate routes always felt explicitly designed (or accessible only to controller monkeys). You always felt the walls funnelling you back into the standard sequence.

      This was not far from the era of the infamous FreeBSD GIANT lock. I'm pretty sure it was Daniel Kahneman's book where I learned that the number one predictor of success in the Israeli Air Force was the ability to quickly dial into a cognitive task and then filter out everything not relevant to that task, and then to shift focus in an instant, choose a completely different cognitive task, and again filter out everything not relevant to the new task (activating a completely different set of filters).

      That's really hard to do, so most people who aren't experience in that kind of dynamic environment learn to coordinate themselves through a cognitive GIANT lock. At certain key points of the process, your behaviours are rigidly serialized. The brain is inherently SMP, but learning how to coordinate several concurrent processes all at once without them stepping on each other is extremely difficult.

      It was through videogames that I sandpapered away the GIANT lock out of my own cognitive codebase. I basically played from the dual-joystick Robotron era through to Half-Life (with a sprinkle of Diablo and Age of Empires on the side). Then the games started to become more vested in faux realism (aka fantasy gratification) and more like skateboards and less like harried brain-teasers, and I quickly lost interest in the entire scene. (Rail guns and mental GIANT locks are like chocolate and peanut butter, so even Half-Life was already on the downslope; lumbering around the entire maze fumigating snipers in single-file was less enjoyable to me than the "real" work I was probably avoiding, so I just ignored the snipers and went full on into the nearest exposed melee and rarely lasted more than 40 seconds before my head popped off, yet again, no matter how well I meleed—presumably by some mono-tasking 12-year-old rail gunner who probably chuckled about how clueless and stupid the other players were to get shot over and over and over again in the same way.)

      Eradicating your personal GIANT lock is exactly what you need to do if you want to become Robin Williams or Tina Fey. At the height of improv, you need your wits online across the board all at once. Railgunnery hails from the tired, gaseous province of scripted of fart jokes.

      Improv, itself, is an essential skill if you want to contemplate how language really works, at its deepest level. Your highschool grammar teac

    11. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quake fits into all four covey Quadrants.

    12. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember the days when the Admins would invite those 'in the know' up to the office (this is at a major corporation, by the way) to stress-test the network. Amazingly enough, they were willing to 'stress test' the network on a *very* regular basis. Amusingly, they did regularly find, and fix, issues.... the network ran like a top.

    13. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by sootman · · Score: 1

      Not entirely frivolous. How many people learned a few things about configuring DOS or setting up networks while trying to make a game work? How many people wound up with a career in computers thanks to the gateway drug known as level editing?

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    14. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Semantic relativity.

      If you drag the slider up from "What did you do this afternoon" over to where it says "Cosmic" the number of things not frivolous approaches zero.

    15. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by Immerman · · Score: 1

      So does the relevance to myself and any other being that doesn't exist on a cosmic scale of space and time.

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    16. Re:*seemed* like a frivolous pursuit? by TuringTest · · Score: 1

      it could be readily replaced with some other enjoyable activity

      Maybe, but you consider this: there's a point where the activity you practice begins to define who you are. If you pursued different leisure activities, you would practice different skills, and meet different people. I wouldn't be the same nor have the same friends if instead of attending my roleplaying group sessions, I indulged in tennis lessons on weekends. Tell me how frivolous is that.

      You can get the field farmed and iron forged with the the same results, whether it's you who do the farming or someone else; that's not true for improving yourself and positioning you in a social group.

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  12. Remember getting chewed out by the VP of IT for by MooseDontBounce · · Score: 1

    crashing our Netware 4.x server one lunch time playing DOOM. The server only ran the whole business. Three of us sitting in his office getting read the riot act. Good times.

    1. Re:Remember getting chewed out by the VP of IT for by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Reminds me when I was a tech, a coworker and I were farting around with a modded Doom wad that had a "weed" based theme, pot leaf textures all over the walls, and the Pinky Demon would run around yelling "F__k You!" instead of growling. Just single player mode, not a deathmatch or anything. The coworker and I were laughing our heads off until we noticed the boss standing right behind us with a sour face. Ah well.

      Also, Barney Doom. That was great.

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  14. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    What fell the Amiga was clinging to the A500 long after it has passed its prime, and the incompatibility to newer models. Not its 3D-capabilities, or lack thereof. The PCs of the time were not any better at displaying 3D graphics, dedicated 3D cards came much later when 3D actually became a thing.

    Furthermore, A500s were sold as "as is", hardwired and hardly upgradeable. You could plug a memory extension into it, you had an "expansion port", where upgrading it with anything cost way more than it was worth and you could basically only use Amiga hardware to do either, much as you do with Apple today (granted, back then this was not so uncommon), but Commodore simply didn't offer anything worthwhile for way too long. When they finally woke up, the ship had already sailed and people were turning towards the PC for gaming because it caught up quickly, sound cards became cheaper and while it was a bit more of a hassle to get the hardware to do what you wanted it to do (the older ones here may remember the worries of setting DMAs, IRQs and IO ranges so they don't conflict between various cards, usually with jumpers that deserved their name mostly for jumping from your fingers into the depths of the case), you at least could get it to do what you wanted it to do.

    Amiga still sold the 500 long into the times of 386 and even 486 when VLB graphics cards came out that had more video memory than the A500 had in total. And games for the Amiga were also still built to run on the 500 instead of targeting 3000 and 4000 machines, mostly because of a nonexistent market.

    The time simply passed by Amiga. That's all. It fell for the same reason the C64 eventually fell: Technology surpassed it and while it was technically possible to upgrade the A500, few people did and hence few games supported it.

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  15. amgia stuck to custem chips to much and os in rom by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    amgia stuck to custom chips to much and os in (non flash) rom

  16. New levels by olsmeister · · Score: 2

    Doom is what got me to buy a Soundblaster back then. It blew me away.

    Anyway, John Romero will be releasing 9 new levels to commemorate the 25th anniversary.

  17. Commodore's fate was sealed by evanh · · Score: 1

    by dwarfing economies of scale that were emerging even as the C64 was at full strength. Motorola was taken out the same way. IBM even suffered. There's many others like DEC, Sun, SGI, Atari. Apple all but died under the onslaught. They only survived by filling a gaping hole in music sales that the music exec's still can't get their heads around. The Web enabled Apple to shift out of general computing.

    It's a chicken or egg problem. Everyone wants to use the same software. So you can't design hardware for something that isn't the mainstream without it being expensive.

    1. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amiga had a chance. All the big software packages were being cross-developed for the Amiga, Wordperfect, Lotus 123, and DBase. What sunk it was that not enough people bought Wordperfect when it came out. Wordperfect's poor sales caused all the big boys to abandon the Amiga.

      Part of the problem was that people who bought the Amiga wanted windows and graphics and color and that stuff, and Wordperfect just didn't embrace the capabilities of the Amiga.

    2. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And word processing on a non-interlaced NTSC monitor was such joy on the eyes... Oh, let me turn on "hi-res" and get epilepsy from the strobing!

      Success!

    3. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call them being cross developed, but ported to the other System.

      Your examples really needed a crisp 80 column text display, those displays were best on the Black and White (often Amber or Green) screens that just allowed for higher resolutions without color bleeding. Businesses didn't use PC's with Monochrome displays just because they were cheaper then Color screens, but because they displayed text much easier.

      Even Apple at the time, for its windows and graphics did Back and White monitors, vs Color displays for the same reason of having a high resolution was considered better then more colors.

      Sure we forget about this now with our full color 1080 or 4k display resolutions where the high resolution combined with Anti-Aliasing. Heck now when programming, I will often make my programs in Black and White, not because of technical limitations, but because of I like the style of it.

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    4. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember watching a DEC ALPHAStation trying to run a PC-based mapping product (ArcVIEW) via an emulator, it was soooo verrrry slooooooowww, despite the fact that in terms of Spec marks, the DEC machine was miles beyond any Intel based system.

    5. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Motorola kept going in the workstation market. The home and PC markets were mostly toys, for simplistic uses or light business. It wasn't until NT4 era that workstation use started declining, and the Pentium was the final nail.

      When the Amiga was around, the PC clones were utterly lousy. You can't even say it had a bad architecture because it really had no architecture instead it had hacks. I remember later in early 90s graduate school that one student lobbied to get a 386 PC into the lab because he said it was the wave of the future, and once it showed up no one really used it except for games, even the person who lobbied for it did his work on the Suns.

    6. Re:Commodore's fate was sealed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Back in 82 I saw a Sun monitor for Sun 1 workstations. That totally blew all other displays out of the water in terms of a crisp display, and the TTYs were so much better than a PC. Yes it cost a lot more but it a did such a good job.

    7. Re: Commodore's fate was sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Likely on Sun 386i's. Oh, the irony.

    8. Re: Commodore's fate was sealed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Not at all, those were the real-deal SparcStations. A friend at a company once got a bunch of Sun 386i's for the QA group and everyone hated those with a passion because they were so incredibly slow.

  18. Installed on US DoD SGI supercomputer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not with permission and back in the day. Never caught.

  19. Epilogue by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    Later on Doom was fully embraced by the BoFH community as an admin tool.

    https://m.slashdot.org/story/7923

    1. Re:Epilogue by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      The only admins that were enraged were those neckbeard UNIX guys who wear sandals and were always grumpy anyway.

    2. Re:Epilogue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only admins that were enraged were those neckbeard UNIX guys who wear sandals and were always grumpy anyway.

      Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer.

  20. Dialup by Jfetjunky · · Score: 1

    I remember letting the demo download all night long and overnight on dialup. Was out in the boonies and that was the best we had, but man was it cool when it finally downloaded.

  21. Doom on floppy disk by theurge14 · · Score: 1

    I had the floppy disk shareware version for whatever it was, came on a few floppies.

    I think it was that first level or so, but it ran amazingly on my old Pentium 90.

    There was an Arts/Rec center up on Custer Hill in Fort Riley, KS that me and several other older guys would book time at to play LAN matches of Doom II a few years later. One of us had a map editor where we made our own levels to fight each other in.

    Frivilous? If it was why did we take it so goddamn seriously?

  22. Article is Complete Horse Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all, in 1993 when Doom was released, the enterprise was already on 10Mbit Ethernet or Token Ring and would very soon be adopting 100-BaseTX. And, the amount of traffic generated by a Doom deathmatch was next to nothing for either datarate. The Doom download was a scant 2.5MB, which most "admins" wouldn't even notice in the enterprise. Typical enterprise connections of that era ranged from a 10Mbit fractional DS3/T3 on upward.

    No admin that was worth their pay would have complained once about DOOM, anyway. They would have just blocked the download at the router. So, to say that 'admins were mad' is total horseshit. Nobody cared.

    1. Re:Article is Complete Horse Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that I only played versions 1.666 or 1.9 on the network (10 BaseT or better) or on null modem, but when Doom came out i.e. version 1.0 or 1.1 it was extremely wasteful on the network. It was known for broadcasting packets so if there are four players (max in a game) they're continuously sending crap to the whole segment.
      I was in elementary school and never had seen more than one PC in a room :)
      10Base2 would have been typical since I saw that years later, first time I'd seen network cables running between PCs. Got a null modem cable in 1999 and 10BaseT in 2000 so of course Doom 2 ran like butter on this. They had long fixed the issue and I had two/three/four PCs on the network..

      A friend had a monstrous huge PC with a 386DX16! (hopelessly outdated, may have been bought used from some company). It ran Doom 1.1 : the gamma correction (F11 key) was only toggle on/off instead of four levels.
      First time I played was on Doom 1.2, this one still has walls arranged in a svatiska near the end of the fourth level.

    2. Re:Article is Complete Horse Shit by LocalH · · Score: 1

      The size of the Doom download had nothing to do with the network issue that early versions of Doom caused.

      https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Broa...

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  23. netware servers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you probably remember doomkill.nlm. A must have back in the day for any netware admin.

  24. Speeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Serial topped out at 115kbs on most PCs, and that's only if you had a decent UART.

    EPP/ECP parallel ports could hit 2.5mbs, and were pretty standard by the mid-90s, when Doom came out. There were (relatively slow) Ethernet adapters for parallel ports in the late 90s.

    IPX was the most efficient network protocol if you didn't need to leave a LAN, as it wasn't routable without doing some router tricks. Perfect for games, which is why so many supported it. Even after TCP/IP became ubiquitous, you would still often use IPX to hit the file server as it was so much more efficient. Once fast Ethernet, and faster TCP/IP stacks and servers became available, the difficulty of supporting multiple protocols outweighed any benefits IPX could offer.

  25. Doom is why I learned networking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without Doom, I wouldn't have learned about networking: serial ports, NE2000 cards, IPX/SPX.

    Post Doom, it was Quake that took all the networking knowledge and moved me onto IP.

    1. Re:Doom is why I learned networking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Counterstrike taught me using router software (on Windows!) with port forwarding to host a game behind the NAT, and even limiting the upload rate (from a setting in the game's console)
      This game lasted on the original Half-Life 1 for like a decade (even after Valve's WON server shut down. There was a patch to remove that server check and *still* play CS 1.5 for years. When I stopped I only had a US east coast server to play on, and dozens on servers in China with weird mods and ping too high for me)
      Half-Life was a glorified Quake 1, still around as well if you care to install that goddamn Steam (it taught me that a company was logging my time played, and thus likely had eternal datetime stamps every time I played a game)

  26. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now your making way to much sense your gonna confuse everybody. Lets just slow down and give everyone a chance to think it over.

  27. Destroyed the mouse on the CAD computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As is was the only one that had enough graphics power to play the game. We could play 'after hours' meaning at about 5:01 in the afternoon. Lots of people played on that machine, the mouse was completely trashed after a couple of months. Pissed off the company president when he heard about it.
    Didn't stop us from playing though.

  28. Adapt or doomed by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    Got a tricked-out 486 from Gateway mail order, computers from cow country.

    It didn't run Doom. Called their customer service, "We don't consider Doom an essential application to support."

    Back it went. I'm sure that attitude changed shortly.

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    1. Re:Adapt or doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? That's not how PCs worked.

    2. Re:Adapt or doomed by nealric · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I remember playing Doom on a 386. It ran at about 5fps, which was enough for me to get through the whole "shareware" version I loaded up on 3.5 floppies.

  29. Testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew a guy who went to work for Compaq/DEC testing their Alpha graphics workstations. For "burn in" testing, they'd play glquake. On $20,000 workstations using $8,000 graphics cards and 24" CAD monitors. He said it was the greatest gaming experience he'd ever had. Only downside was the sound didn't work.

  30. Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't forgot that Doom also gave us:

    * Total Conversions or "themed" levels, such as Aliens, Barney, etc.
    * Mods -- the ability to change core gameplay rules. e.g. Minecraft allows "house rules" such as: /gamerule keepInventory true
    * In-game map which was also awesome. (Looking at you Vermintide 2!)

    I'm reminded that the entire FPS genre seems to have regressed. This commentary of FPS map design 1993 vs 2010 succinctly summarizes the problem of how everything has being script / trigger driven. In some games the dam loading screen takes ages (Gran Turismo 6).

    It is also pathetic that FPS no longer ship with map editors. Worse, DLCs only come with ~3 maps. Hell, even Age of Empires 2, a 19 year old game STILL has new maps being made. e.g. The "Nothing" theme is currently popular.

    And then game devs wonder why no one plays their game after 5 years. /sarcasm But ooh, shiny!

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    1. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by djhertz · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points today. Great comments!

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    2. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And then game devs wonder why no one plays their game after 5 years

      You seem to have mistaken a feature for a bug. Most developers/publishers don't want people playing their games after 5 years, it cuts into potential sales of sequels and other games. Luckily, tying everything to a central server means they can force people to stop playing after a certain amount of time by flicking a switch.

    3. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then game devs wonder why no one plays their game after 5 years. /sarcasm But ooh, shiny!

      Devs know, publishers don't care.

    4. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The map is E1M6 if anyone is wondering.

    5. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by jimmifett · · Score: 1

      I made a multiplayer co-op map of my highschool back at the time filled with demons and shared around. Great learning opportunity in how to make maps and stuff.

      Nowadays, i'd have been expelled, arrested, and branded a psychopath for life just for discussing the idea of making such a map in highschool.

    6. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      I was a heavy doom/quake mapper in the D2 era and even up into Q3Arena (which presaged that iD was becoming an engine-builder, not a game-maker, sigh....) but already it was pretty clear that the amount of work was surpassing "hobbyist" work levels except for people who had literally nothing else to do with their lives. Now to compete with professional product the art, the textures, the models...it's TEAMS of people you're competing against. It's not just building some interesting geometry that keeps triangles low.

      I think the deathknell for this was again iD, their rage engine was looking interesting, until they came out with the stupid megapixel textures, that would take quasi supercomputers to render - sorry, hobbyists.

      There are still FWIW some fantastic free tools out there for mappers - UDK is still going strong (and is great), as well as Unity, Lumberyard, etc. but likewise part of the problem is the diversity of the market: when Doom2/Quake was the only game in town, everyone's products were for everyone. Now the market is so balkanized that you have to ask yourself 'is it worth 100 hours of work to put out a level that - by the time I'm done - only 5000 people are playing?"

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    7. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      The number of L4D maps, such as I Hate Mountains and Portal 2 maps would disagree with your sentiments. :-)

      Has content creation gotten exceedingly more complex? Definitely. But I wouldn't write off entire communities just yet. It all comes down to tools devs provide for end users to create content.

    8. Re:Don't forget Total Conversions & Mods! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It is also pathetic that FPS no longer ship with map editors. Worse, DLCs only come with ~3 maps. Hell, even Age of Empires 2, a 19 year old game STILL has new maps being made. e.g. The "Nothing" theme is currently popular.

      For a long time, 3D maps were insanely complex to produce, far beyond that of the average gamer. Also tools to make them were expensive and proprietary.

      However with many games being open world build-em-ups a la Minecraft, the tools to make custom maps are now the game itself. The biggest problem is that engines are not quite up to snuff.

      And then game devs wonder why no one plays their game after 5 years. /sarcasm But ooh, shiny!

      For game publishers, this is a feature, not a bug. They don't want you playing Call of Snorefare 432 which was released six months ago when they've reskinned it and released it as Call of Snorefare 433.

      Its little wonder most of the games I play these days are Indie or small publishers. I used to love Battlefield (1942, 2) but after BF3 became a grind fest, I completely lost interest.

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  31. Good educational experience by satsuke · · Score: 1

    This games release also pushed untold numbers of us to learn what ethernet was, what IPX was, how to configure DOS autoexec.bat and config.sys files to eek out enough memory to play them.

    Or even how to perform basic PC hardware maintenance like upgrading video cards, processors, etc .. if not for the fact that we _needed_ to do those things to play the game better than your friend.

  32. Apocrophal? by bill.pev · · Score: 1

    My favorite story: Spielberg and Robin Williams were playing deathmatch while Spielberg was filming Schindler's List. Apocrophal or true? Who knows.. Its a great story either way.. Nobody has better gallows humor than nurses working on a cancer ward. The whole conversation about the negative effect of violent games ignores the sometimes healthy part of acting out nightmares as a way of coping with them. But that's not part of my purpose. Or is it?

    1. Re:Apocrophal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apocryphal

  33. IPX by satsuke · · Score: 1

    I remember as an Netware admin, a bunch of us built a Netware server with multiple NIC in it to segment the network, just so the department could play Doom/Quake/Descent on the LAN without noticeably slowing down the office.

    This was of course in the day before "every port is a switch, every port is it's own collision domain".

  34. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I recall, Doom was possible thanks to the PC's Chunk Pixel graphics, where as the Amiga and most all other systems use bit-planes.

  35. Barney Doom by wiredog · · Score: 1

    Nothing like going down a corridor blasting purple dinosaurs that are "singing" "I love you, you love me..."

  36. RIP AND TEAR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UNTIL IT IS DONE!

  37. Blackbook on Doom's game engine by gentryx · · Score: 1
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  38. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by lemonfresh33 · · Score: 1

    The C128 did have extra text/graphics modes. It supported 80 columns in c128 mode

  39. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by LocalH · · Score: 1

    It's the truth. The old Workbench 1.2 easter egg "We made Amiga, they fucked it up" was the story of Commodore's ownership of Amiga pretty much.

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  40. To Mr. J. Carmack fellow /.er... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: 1st /. post I ever did (only time under a reg'd 'luser' acc't. I only used once in 2005) was to him & your games? THE best bar-none to date imo!

    * ... & code that's really, Really, REALLY elegant that also DEMONSTRATES the ability to think (& OUTTHINK a problem) in "carmack's reverse" by doing it in a way those attempting legal action vs. you (can't remember corp. name who did) was NULLIFIED!

    * My hat's off to you...

    APK

    P.S.=> In fact, the ONLY game I keep online (which I still feel is your best & BEST code I've seen @ least)? Quake III PORTED to 64-bit Linux (never the SAME game twice imo) - mega fast/smooth on TODAY's hardware & OS - again, hat's off & that's MY proof in tribute - thanks JC! apk

  41. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, in text. It had no sprites or multicolor mode, and would have been precisely zero help to run any games.

    It could, however, print twice as many "Commodore SUCKS" on the screen.

  42. Movie by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    It spawned remakes and follow-up games, its own movie (don't bother)

    Was I the only that actually enjoyed the FPS sequence in the Doom movie? The rest of the movie was "meh" though.

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  43. Broadcast packets - bad article or summary by Mr307 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The reason the first versions of DOOM brought down networks was its use of broadcast packets, it was patched out in later versions.

    Those packets would repeat across routers to other locations over wan links and more, total network mayhem back then. I dont recall the game using any special amount of bandwidth at all beyond the broadcast packet problem.

    Once it was patched it was mostly benign on a local segment.

    1. Re:Broadcast packets - bad article or summary by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      The reason the first versions of DOOM brought down networks was its use of broadcast packets, it was patched out in later versions.

      There was one specific problem those broadcast packets caused. HP network printers on IPX. Their tiny little CPUs couldn't handle that much traffic not meant for them, so they clogged up and nobody on the lab network could print while a game was under way. We got yelled at more than once to shut down so some poor sod could print their term paper. Printing done, we started right back up again.

    2. Re:Broadcast packets - bad article or summary by kqs · · Score: 1

      Not just HP printers. Any machine which handled broadcast/multicast packets in software had problems.

      The first versions not only used broadcast packets, but they sent them as fast as the sender could handle, which was far faster than many receivers could handle. And everyone on the same network segment was a receiver.

  44. USAF by TheZeal0t · · Score: 1

    When I was in the USAF, I a couple of my buddies playing on the Air Force network. I told them, "What is the LAN shop gonna say when they catch you playing Doom on the USAF network?" They looked at me and said, "Who do you think we are playing?"

    Later, I spent my last six weeks in the USAF playing Doom and "using" my brand new $5,000 workstation (Pentium 90, 32 MB of memory, 1 GB HD, 21" monitor) to keep it out of the hands of other projects... on order from my Lieutenant! I also used Borland C++ to write a program that told me how much time, down to the microsecond, I had left in the USAF!

  45. LOL ... the beginning of the end for me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doom marked the point where I was forced to realize that my mad skills picked up playing coin-op games with a 4 direction joystick and two buttons were never going to translate to something which allowed me to play a FPS.

    I never did finish Doom without god mode, and have given up on every FPS I've tried to play since.

    Damn you Doom for forever demonstrating I'm too old and uncoordinated to be able to play some kinds of games!!

    At least with Skyrim I could run away until I'd leveled up, but most FPS pretty much have a linear path -- I hate that about some games, you get stuck at one spot and you're pretty much done.

    If I game at all these days it's to just wander around Skyrim collecting stuff, killing bears, and admiring the views; but I might look into one of those Classic Nintendo things and see if I can still handle some of those games. At least they were from before the video game industry lapped me.

  46. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    The Engineers probably could had made a better system. But in 1993 you will need to fight off the momentum that Microsoft had, with its army of IBM and IBM Compatible PC's all running MS DOS and Windows 3.1x. With the 386 and 486 chips there was a set of 32bit systems that a middle class family could afford.

    Yes Amiga could had made a better system, but all the software was for PC's. During that time you had to go to the Store and buy box copies of software, order copies over the mail, (much lower case shifting my eyes around) copping the floppies from a friend, or waiting hours to download the program from your local BBS.
    If you were an Amiga user, the stores may have a shelf for you, and perhaps if you were lucky a BBS will have Amiga software, but for the most part you will need to hunt down to find software for it.
    The Store has mostly PC products, a corner for Apple and Mac, and just a shelf for others.

    The only way the Amiga system would had succeeded would had cause Amiga to die sooner. By having an army of Amiga compatible systems for sale like there was for the IBM PC market. This hurt IBM but Microsoft was the real winner there.

    Doom was the first game to fully utilize the power of the 386 and 486 PCs and showcased what the new 32bit systems could do compared to the old 8 and 16 bit consoles. Doom didn't target Amiga, it hit the console market, hurting the likes of Nintendo and Sega. Having a fast moving game with top graphics and 3d perspective.

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  47. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A500 1991
    DOOM 1992
    VooDoo Graphics 1993

    IMO, the introduction of PCI bus to PC architecture is what made 3d graphics possible.

    Any computer manufacturer who was not working to improve backplane/bus speeds was headed for the trash heap

  48. Long Distance Doom by kackle · · Score: 1

    My friend and I loved that game (and eventually Doom II); we'd mail each other maps on floppy disks as he lived on the other side of the country. We even deathmatched each other over the phone lines to the tune of $10/hour, up until we were flat broke.

    When he came in to visit family, I rented a computer for him ($50/day!), hacked up an AT modem initialization string that required no dial tone, and ran a null phone line from one machine to the other so we could play. That was so much fun.

    I read a book on DOS batch scripting then and wrote a program that would lock his computer up on his birthday and display a greeting; I hid it in one of the new map installers I had sent to him. ;)

  49. Haven't seen him since 2005 myself.. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & https://games.slashdot.org/com...

    * Oh, the "halcyon days of yore..."

    APK

    P.S.=> Good times... apk

  50. Anyone temember the doom admin mod? by jd · · Score: 1

    It linked processes to monsters, so kill a monster means kill a process. I think the cpu usage determined monster speed as well, but can't recall.

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    1. Re:Anyone temember the doom admin mod? by satsuke · · Score: 1

      PIDdoom .. careful what you kill, else crash the host.

  51. They should link Doom to Elite by jd · · Score: 1

    Then Orcs can storm your ship, or you can storm the space dredger filled with them. Not sure which would be the more fun.

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  52. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  53. Ah Laplink! by DMJC · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember running Laplink on a Null-printer cable to link two PCs together? I remember using it for Terminal Velocity and Wing Commander Armada. Way back in like 1996/1997.

  54. "Marathon" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > On December 10, 1993, after a marathon 30-hour coding session, the developers at id Software uploaded the first finished copy of Doom

    Thing is, back then, 30 hours is probably all that was needed to code the entire game...

    1. Re:"Marathon" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Thing is, back then, 30 hours is probably all that was needed to code the entire game...

      Yeah, no.

      I know you're being facetious but if you're really interested in how much sweat they put into it, read Masters of Doom – it's a quick read!

  55. wants to "make you his b*tch" by dimmthewitted · · Score: 1

    All praise to the Johns. Romero the design rock god that wanted to "make you his b*tch" and Carmack the programming god who could solve any problem in weekend.

    Carmack has never stopped trying to bring a virtual experience to the masses, even today at Oculus.

    Me and my friends had countless LAN parties when ID brought us LAN play. Staying up all night to heavy metal, mortal Kombat, and DOOM!

    Publishing the tools to allow mod making really set ID apart.
    The shareware idea of giving part of the game for free coupled with the gore and rock made Doom legendary overnight.
    It's a shame the Johns had to split ways and crash. A game needs both design and innovation.
    Quake was truly 3D awe-inspiring, but DOOM was ground breaking with such tight optimizations for fast 3D and nutty level designs.
    When you beat the first mission and it simply ends in being curb stomped by a horde of demons.

    It's on every platform, in every game store, hell I home brewed an ipod with a buddy to play Doom with a scroll wheel.

    Download now and play it tonight on your Xbox or Ubuntu. I know I will.

  56. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    PCs were immortal, that's why it was successful (and why it was a terrible mistake for IBM). Thousands of PC builders and hundreds of component manufactures failed in the 80's and 90's. A PC company fails, two pop up to replace it. Commodore, Atari, and others were just one company holding together an architecture, they didn't have the luxury of failing.

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  57. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    C128 was designed around the perceived needs of business users. But Commodore was a gaming platform first and business users weren't really flocking to it. I guess if it were only about technology and price a C128 (1985) was cheaper than a an IBM PC AT (1984), but horribly inadequate in comparison when it came to running business software.

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  58. Any females in the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just curious. I feel like I can smell the collective BO from all y'all just reading this thread.

  59. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amiga Fanboys, it's not all about you. Back on topic!

  60. I remember those days fondly by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    We built a COMring cable, which let you run a token-ring like network over a specially constructed serial cable or over a null modem cable (if you only have 2 nodes). Then installed an IPX packet driver in order to run the game. at 57.6k and decent UARTs (16550) it played fine.

    For parallel we ran LapLink cables, a type of parallel cable like you described. And transferred files with LANtastic or Laplink. Eventually a few people got 10Base2 cards and would act as gateways for those of us without network cards.

    Lots of co-op games of Heretic were done our little improvised network.

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  61. IDDQD by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

    IDKFA
    IDSPISPOPD
    IDBEHOLD

    ok, it's been to long, I cant remember any more. Do I get to keep my nerd card?

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  62. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy who wrote this article doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He probably wasn't even alive when Doom came out.

    The game was an instant hit -- so much so that within hours of its release admins were banning it from servers to try and cope with the effects of thousands, and then millions of people playing online.

    First of all, nobody was banning anyone for playing Doom. Doom _only_ supported LAN for multiplayer upon release. A _year_ after its release, DWANGO came along and offered the ability to play Doom online and even when it did, I never heard of any universal Doom ban like this kid is trying to claim happened. He's trying to stir the pot and make history more controversial than it was.

  63. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by fwad · · Score: 1

    Just what I thought when I read this. Doom was released when people had dialup if they were lucky. You got Doom by getting the demo on the cover disk of a magazine.

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  64. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    The 500 was intended to be a cost reduced version, except that the stuff you gave up really wasn't worth the smaller cost. But remember that Apple made similar mistakes, not wanting upgradeability early on (similar to the NeXT).

    I liked the Amiga 1000 best. It didn't look boxy like PCs or the A2000, and didn't look like a C64 or Apple II like the 500 did. I did get the A2000 later for more upgradeability and a hard drive. I do remember some major developers not wanting the hard drive and instead got more RAM and created a RAM-disk to really speed things up.

  65. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    We were lucky in Silicon Valley, there was a store there that was essentially dedicated to the Amiga. (It's a KFC now)

  66. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    Doom and Quake required VGA. You are jumping all over in history. We could say, truthfully, that the Amiga plugged into a tv set. It did, for a time.

  67. Re: amgia stuck to custem chips to much and os in by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    Being a cluster of ASICs is what did the Amiga in. It allowed enhanced in the early period, but could never, ever scale when the megahertz wars began. Then, the architecture had to move to the same commodity chips as everything else. A bunch of ASIC chips with girls' names couldn't just double in speed over and over.

  68. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    The Doom installer fit on a few floppy diskettes. You downloaded it.

  69. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    Or one could say, unluckily drawn into a cul-de-sac subculture.

  70. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    Commodore, Atari, etc. had to depend on there always being department stores to sell their plastic cased consumer appliances into. The PC market had morphed into mom and pop shops selling cheap clone hardware out of storefronts.

  71. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 386 and 486 weren't new in 1993, the Pentium was.

  72. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doom was the first game to fully utilize the power of the 386 and 486 PC

    That seems to be a stretch; plenty of games prior to Doom required a 386, and easily a handful of them showed off what the system could do. I'd put Links 386 pro, F-15 Strike Eagle III, and Wing Commander II with the speech pack in that category.

    The Amiga was additionally hurt by being proprietary; better Amiga systems wouldn't have helped by itself, the PC's open architecture allowed a lot of 3rd party peripherals not available for the Amiga.

  73. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Not just selling them. But building them up from components. The PC market grew organically from a cottage industry of PC clones. People who cloned other hardware, like Apple //e had a much harder time because not everything was off-the-shelf from component suppliers. Making an Amiga clone would be really hard for example, because of the rather complicated custom set of chips for it. A crappy little PC clone with CGA was a bunch of chips out of a catalog from Intel and Motorola.

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  74. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but EGA was the current PC standard in 1985, when the first Amiga shipped. Once VGA came out in 1987, it wasn't long before third-party vendors extended it to Super VGA and surpassed what even the newest Amigas could do. VESA made the Amiga blitter (Agnus?) irrelevant.

    Still, IIRC Carmack wanted Doom to run well on the "lowest common denominator" PC with a 386 and VGA, so they deliberately passed on Super VGA modes.

  75. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    I would contend that almost none of the crappy PC clones had CGA cards. Things went Hercules pretty quickly, and then EGA. The CGA was an early phenomenon.

    The PC clone was indeed made up out of catalog parts. Not even in a way that makes complete sense. The 8250 wasn't the best choice for a serial interface. And there was very little from Motorola aside from the 6845 CRT controller.

  76. School Board Admins sent my parents a letter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still remember my Dad asking WTF the letter was all about when I installed it on all workstations in my school and school district. His response to the school board was that I should be given praise. His exact words to my school principal were "So Fucking What?"

  77. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    CGA was pretty common in a narrow range of years of the 1980's because it could output to a TV and users could skip buying a monitor. EGA ended up being big during the 286 era, but in terms of units didn't really sell that many. Budget machines (8088 and 8086) were shipping with CGA cards, including "SuperCGA" that provides some non-standard additional set of modes. Hercules was very popular for budget conscious people who wanted good text mode performance. The graphics of HGC was a novelty but usually not crucial for most users. (I liked it though!)

    MC6845 CRTC was the heart of MDA, HGC, CGA and by extension EGA and VGA. That weird little chip was quite influential. Probably the only Motorola part.

    As for 8250, it was only slightly worse than other options. I take a bigger issue with the decision to use the 8237 DMAC, it was a horrible DMA controller. But it's all Intel had in stock at the time. ISA was also an abomination. Lots of things about the PC were things that were not very forward thinking. Yet here we are, building super computing clusters out of their descendants.

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  78. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by sad_ · · Score: 1

    there was nothing wrong with the 500, it fit the market it servered perfectly.
    besides some extra ram and an extra floppy drive almost nobody needed to expand their 500 for what they were doing with it.
    the price difference between the 500 and the 2000 was huge, the amiga wouldn't have been as popular as it had been if it wasn't for the 500.

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  79. Re:"doom" is probably also what sealed by sad_ · · Score: 1

    forget about doom, all my amiga friends were already converted to pc by the time doom came out.
    you had stuff like wing commander, which ran like a dog and looked terrible on amiga, but on pc it was awesome (if you had at least a 386 with vga).
    there were others too, like ultima underworld, alone in the dark, not to mention that you almost had a (small) hard disk on pc, which made certain games better to play, lucasarts and sierra online adventure in particular. also don't forget Doom's daddy - wolfenstein!

    all these came before doom and were slowly but steadily moving people away from amiga to pc.

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  80. SGI Workstations with Doom by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    Ah yes, I remember those days, we ran the SGI OpenGL version of Doom, you had to download the WAD file to run it, but it ran the whole game and of course Multiplayer DOOM, sound and all. We had 4 Workstations in the Lab all networked together on a fast network, and every night starting around 10PM, we would stop working / or working on thesis and then play Deathmatch for 4-5 hours. This went on for several months. There was nothing like it and nothing like trying to be on the top. I would dream at night of what it would be like 10-15 years in the future, but wow the graphics today in FPS and Multiplayer games is just amazing. I wonder what it would be like 20 years from now.
    We all went on to be successful people in the computer industry.

    1. Re:SGI Workstations with Doom by neoRUR · · Score: 1

      I will add to this. This was when the Keyboard vs Mouse was just starting. I was only keyboard back then, you learned some good techniques, but alas the Mouse is the way to go now.

      Also I want to congratulate ./ and the many great posts here, as this tread is what this site is supposed to all be about. Geeks and their technology.

      And the people from the 70's-90's that were the real First Computer Generation, So many good stories from a new World and Industry that was just starting to happen, you will not see that again for quite a while.

  81. Re: "doom" is probably also what sealed by Cederic · · Score: 1

    Who had LANs back then? Companies, universities.

    Guess who was banning Doom?

    It wasn't the download that really broke networks it was the sub-optimal network code in the game that flooded the network and made it unusable for anything else. That's why it got banned.

    You're calling this guy a kid but demonstrating your own senility. Try educating yourself.