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Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook's 2018: We've Changed, We Promise (cnet.com)
It's nearly the new year, which means time for some reflection on what's happened and what's to come. For Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, that means looking back on one really tough year. From a report: In his year-end post on Friday, Zuckerberg is optimistic, if a little defensive. He ticked off changes the company's made -- or, as he put it, "We've fundamentally altered our DNA" -- to focus more on handling the bad stuff that happens on Facebook. That includes tackling Russian interference in our elections, stopping harmful and bullying posts, and promising to give people more control over their data. He also noted that Facebook now has 30,000 people working on safety and harassment issues, and it's investing billions of dollars in security each year. He also acknowledged these issues will take more than a year to fix. But he said the company's started multiyear plans to address them. That doesn't mean he thinks Facebook is fully on the ball. "In the past we didn't focus as much on these issues as we needed to, but we're now much more proactive," he wrote.
"I've learned a lot from focusing on these issues and we still have a lot of work ahead," Zuckerberg added. "I'm proud of the progress we've made in 2018 and grateful to everyone who has helped us get here -- the teams inside Facebook, our partners and the independent researchers and everyone who has given us so much feedback. I'm committed to continuing to make progress on these important issues as we enter the new year."
"I've learned a lot from focusing on these issues and we still have a lot of work ahead," Zuckerberg added. "I'm proud of the progress we've made in 2018 and grateful to everyone who has helped us get here -- the teams inside Facebook, our partners and the independent researchers and everyone who has given us so much feedback. I'm committed to continuing to make progress on these important issues as we enter the new year."
Nobody will ever believe you ever again, and if they do, fuck the morons harder. They deserve it.
He shoulf be removing the facbook icons on all websites and drop the facebook shared logon feature. Then i might believe him
That is reassuring...
ftz ftw
I guess I have trouble getting into all the worries about Facebook. (I'm also not a user.) Why should I care what everybody sees online if they can't be bothered to take some skepticism with them on the interwebs? Bullying? How the heck is Facebook going to put the slightest dent in a problem that predates usenet? I'd do a quick search for the first bullying email message I ever received, but I lost my pre-1996 email archive to Microsoft Outlook glitches.
Fuck you mark
Too bad there's nothing worth Eddie Lampert's attention in FB.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
So you're 100% not allowing anyone to have any users personal data, ever, except with with their explicit, written permission? No? That's what I thought.
Take back your privacy and KILL FACEBOOK.
Just come back. I'll be better. I won't punch you in the face anymore and I'll only fuck you up the ass without lube on national holidays.
...and we belive you exactly the same amount as the previous 2018 times you said that...
You can't fix Facebook without destroying it. Facebook is a cesspool of people addicted to this curated lifestyle of impressing your peer group. Everyone wants to show how perfect their life is by posting cute little things, or showing how virtuous they are by attacking some other group. You can't fix that without burning the whole thing down and starting over.
That, combined with collecting data and selling it is what drives Facebook. The Ruskie stuff and "bullying" is just a sideshow. Facebook itself is the disease, and it diseases don't want to cure themselves.
With as many tone deaf and disingenuous statements that Mark Zuckerberg has made, he has zero credibility in my book. As far as I am concerned this is a lie and he and his company will not be winning me back as a customer. I am a year and a month free from the assholery that Facebook is.
Doesn't understand problem, doesn't solve anything, pats himself on the back. Fuck you mark, facebook sucks.
Liar! Stay away from Spybook. Get your friends away. At least delete the spyware battery sucking apps and use the web page.
They "trust me"
Dumb fucks.
...they just do it and don't go around trumpeting how they've changed. People who haven't changed have to do a sales job on you to convince you on the matter.
Literally the only thing Mark Zuckerberg could do to convince me that Facebook has changed is shut down the entire enterprise, shred all the data they've collected, and donate every last scrap of technology they've developed to an open source foundation like Mozilla to build a new social network on the ashes.
To me, it looks like Zuckerberg built up Facebook upon a foundation of lying to people. Why should anyone believe anything he says now?
Facebook can't even trim down the work from home spam in their comments. Go to any website using their social plugin and look at the bottom:
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Not that this is a trivial task but it's an order of magnitude easier than policing behavior and flagging state sponsored actors. Walk before you run, Zuck.
A good laugh in the morning always helps.
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don't know why.
Zuck: They "trust me"
Zuck: Dumb fucks
Almost everything he says has been nasty lies for 15 years - he isn't going to stop now.
He wants the history books to say he was a genius - instead they will say he was a greedy deceptive little pervert.
this time.
...picking on Kathleen Fent.
That mouth looks awful pretty don't it now Mark! Real pretty. Squeel little piggy.
Pinky wear, we promise!
Facebook stinks a whole lot more than that. It's something you need to keep doing, not just when the neighbors call the feds.
I doubt it.
Corporatism != Free Market
Yes you have changed, you used to have more conservative groups a year ago...
I believe Facebook has altered its DNA just about as much as I believe Mark Zuckerberg altered his DNA in the last year.
Zuck the Cuck is still a Progressive Technocrat. Nothing will change, it's all about the $$$.
In 2017, people were seriously talking about Zuckerberg running for president. He’d been visiting “the common folk” in various states and talking like a candidate.
With all that’s come out this year, that is almost certainly dead - he’d be an fool to try. Politicians aren’t good at much, but they’re experts at finding and using dirt against their opponents... and Zuck has left lots of dirt out there in plain sight, free for the picking.
#DeleteChrome
FTS: That includes tackling Russian interference in our elections, stopping harmful and bullying posts, and promising to give people more control over their data.
This is the reason I quit Facebook. This is what they claim. Meanwhile, mostly what they're doing is shutting down anyone that doesn't toe their SJW line with paternalistic oversight, while looking for ways to disguise their data mining.
No thank you.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
"We've fundamentally altered our DNA"
Right.... and I've got some bridges I'd like to sell. Once someone is proven to be untrustworthy it's unlikely they ever change. Yes it happens but it's terribly rare and almost unheard of in companies unless their incentives change to align with honesty. Facebook made their fortune in large part through dishonesty and the people who permitted that are still in charge. There is zero evidence to suggest the company has changed in any meaningful way. Their incentives are more or less the same, there is basically no regulation of them, and the same people are in charge. Why should they ever change?
Dear Facebook, you suck up data left and right and you monetize it in any way you think you can get away with.
The ONLY thing that has changed is that some of the ways you previously thought of monetizing have been exposed. You'll make some song and dance of not doing those things any more except that's only because of the exposure. You're untrustworthy to the bone. Facebook is inherently evil. Zuckerberg is inherently evil. All that matters is the profit/loss associated with any action and nothing more. Morals are little more than window dressing.
So fuck off and die. The sooner Facebook is gone the better.
You gave them explicit permission when you signed up to use their service. I mean come on, morons, servers, employees, bandwidth, etc all cost money. What did you dumbasses think was going to happen? Are you gonna act surprised when you find out Gmail is a data mining operation for Google or that Youtube tracks what videos you watch, how long you watch them for, what you liked/save, and then proceed to build a profile about you to give that data to advertisers? Creativity isn't free. Work doesn't go unpaid. People love to hate on Apple, but they sell you a device and they price it to include the services. Google/Facebook/etc all subsidize their work and YOU become the product. Either tell them you're willing to pay the $10-$20/month it'd require to use their service normally or don't a bunch of shit on those sites. The above person's sense of entitlement (and that of those who think like him) is disgusting. You don't get something for nothing.
Where is the compensation for those who were harmed?
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
The infamous I. F. Stone quote, "All governments lie" should get an update.
"All corporations lie." -- The next time we hear a press release or a public statement by a CEO, spokesperson, or PR firm, we should all repeat, "All corporations lie."
That way we won't be tempted into believing that they mean what they say, no matter how well acted & presented it may be. Although they can mimic all the affectations of sincerity & empathy, they are incapable of human feelings. That's how they can make $billions by exploiting millions of people & creating miserable working conditions for the vast majority of their employees & contractors, & still claim that they're "philanthropists."
Grrrrrrrr.
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
Nice try Satin
Very smooth...
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
zuck, is a liar. All hes changed is the skill set in the company to further hide and manipulate.
The sooner facebook disappears the better the world will be.
This comment of mine about Facebook was moderated to +5:
We don't know everything Facebook is doing.
There have been MANY misrepresentations from Facebook. Why would we begin believing now?
So, there's this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/business/facebook-zuckerberg-apologies/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.35c4cf1ea48a
Which I think I first heard about from this:
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/11/21/1817219/14-years-of-mark-zuckerberg-saying-sorry-not-sorry
And I've never been a FB customer, nor have I joined up to any of the other social media sites. It never appealed to me.
Unmitigated gall or over-zealous attempt to call our bluff. You decide. But then you could also decide to take a dump in a box and mail it to Mr. Z. I would recommend the latter.
So the ad brands can have even more confidence in the way users are tracked.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Mark Zuckerberg: President of the Universe
How about we also address Israeli influence on our elections? It is baffling that in order to be electable US presidential candidates must pledge loyalty to a foreign state.
The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"
Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."
Zuckerberg is a liar too if he says he will change. This is just more PR BS trying to play damage control. I am so over Facebook and its false promises of protecting its users information. Zuckerberg proved long ago that he has no concern over protecting users privacy and I have no doubt he hasn't changed.
I've been Zucked for the last time. I quit Facebook and I'm never coming back. Zuckerberg is a sociopathic liar and I refuse to volunteer for him to sell my information to advertisers.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
We need a 'Well Played' mod here.
--Highdude702(mods)
Setting them back another century! Slippery bastids!
whois -h whois.radb.net -- '-i origin AS32934' | grep ^route | awk '{print $2}'
You can't change. Being an asshole is your revenue model. You couldn't continue to operate as a business if you changed.
Dumb fucks."
The Zuck
This perpetual motion machine Lisa made is a joke, it just keeps getting faster and faster. - Homer
Arrest Zuckerberg. Shut down Facebook. Seize and sell their assets. Ban businesses from cyberstalking and data hoarding. For a better future!
A coal mining company cannot possibly keep their business going without mining coal. And Facebook cannot possibly keep their scam going without getting paid for user data (while hitting their insane profitability targets) unless they start charging their users instead. Which is not going to happen.
If anyone in this world deserves to be doxxed and have their entire life exposed, plus have others meddling in their private affairs, it is Mark Zuckerberg. Also, some rich person who cares should buy all the property around wherever MZ lives, and just put up huge billboards in the middle of his view, running ads for whatever Mark would find annoying. Like books on how to become a nice person.
There is still someone using Facebook after all this BS??
"we are committed to" -- thats officialese. basically don't trust anyone who speaks officialese. its a real term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officialese
A Zucker is born every minute.
I would use a public toilet if I had to.
No, it was that the electoral college picked Trump.
Clinton actually won the vote.
He seems to still be oblivious to the fact that his product and his company's business practices sucked looong before the election. He really doesn't seem to believe there's a thing wrong with their nonchalant thievery and utter disregard for their users that has existed from the beginning. Fuck off, Zuck.
Well played.
- the dude
Zuckerberg: "We've fundamentally altered our DNA"
Does that mean their DNA is going to start resembling human DNA?
Facebook now has 30,000 people working on safety and harassment issues...
With 2 billion users, that means 1 Facebook worker monitors the activities of roughly 66,667 users. Sure, that will work.
"In the past we didn't focus as much on these issues as we needed to..."
It's not only that Facebook didn't focus on these issues. Rather, Facebook actively covered up these issues. For months and months, Facebook denied what the Russians did on Facebook to influence the US 2016 presidential election. Only after real journalists uncovered an ever increasing trove of data to support the story that Russians used Facebook, did Facebook finally confirm what had already been reported.
Facebook is scum.
Blame ONE person? Wonderful scapegoat.
CAPTCHA: smudge
Remember, that was what he told his "friend" when he first started Fraudbook in college.