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Windows 10 Passes Windows 7 in Market Share (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader writes: More than three years after its release, Windows 10 has passed Windows 7 in market share. That means more desktop computers are now running Microsoft's latest and greatest operating system than any other OS, according to Net Applications. The milestone is a nice way for Microsoft to end 2018, even though the company surely was hoping it wouldn't take this long for Windows 10 to overtake Windows 7.
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Windows 10 has a bunch of serious issues, that's not news, and those who can avoid it are lucky. Guess what? My machine is wanting to install the Windows feature update again, and I'm staving it off because the last time I tried it, after 2 hours of WTF-is-it-doing and then trying to roll back, it left things in such a mess after the "successful" rollback that I restored the entire VM from backup.
This is one reason why I no longer store documents within the VM, and do most of my work remoted onto Windows servers which seem to have fewer issues. Between Office 365 "updates" and forced Windows "updates" my machine has never been so "updated" yet suffering from so many issues before... and I go back to Windows 3.0
I would create another VM from scratch, but Windows 10 is the issue here. What a hot mess!
Unfortunately, windows 10 includes crap ware like Groove, Cortana, Ads that cannot be uninstalled
My Dad was happily using Windows 8, was forcefully upgraded to Windows 10 by accident. Hated Windows 10, downgraded back to Windows 8, then kept getting warning messages popping up from time to time about some DLL that got lost in all the shuffle. Didn't seem to do anything useful (app store DLL?) but annoying. Fed up with all that, he finally bite the bullet and switched to Ubuntu 18.04 this fall. Thanks Microsoft!
Lots of serious professional software only runs on Windows. Software you've probably never heard of but nonetheless is widely used in a particular industry. The applications barrier to entry is still going strong.
no the sum of all windows 10 releases (they have been plenty) now has more market share that the single release of windows 7? that's not a milestone.
wake me up when a single release of windows 10 does that.
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I know my eyes ar,shall we say, sub optimal, but I’ve never seen those ads you ar talking about. Where are they? I ron win 10 pro (non oem) if thst has anything to do with thelack of ads, I allso dissabled live tiles, in fact remived all tiles from the start menu
If you were to believe the stats that netmarketshare posted. Estimating stats is so unreliable these days other than Enterprises using Windows 7 and Home users using Windows 10. In practice all browsers these days are Chrome based or chrome-imitating so just worry about being Chrome compatible.
"Windows 10 Passes Windows 7 in Market Share"
That's no good at all. Wake me when it can crank up to 11.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
I bet you have never even seen a minicomputer, and think the world stands for a Mac mini.
I worked in music and film production, craft businesses, and manufacturing. I know all the shity cancer of industry-specific software out there. I even wrote some of it. (For warehouse management, color mixing machines, custom data management, and similar small side-gigs.)
And they all either got replaced by server-side software that runs on large metal linux boxen, by small single-board computer gadgets with client/web interfaces, have never been Windows software (like film/music/3D software), or are more and more moving away from Windows.
Nowadays, Windows has only two domains left:
* Businesses too young/small for big iron and a Unix history and
* too old/big for sucking Apple dick.
So basically just boring medium/small companies ran by PHBs.
Windows 7 goes EOL in 1 year. Yikes. Even XP was surprised by 7 several years before it hit retirement.
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Lots of serious, professional, LEGACY software. Which often runs better in dosbox or on WINE than it does in WinX.
Android by itself is quite good. Java blows, but Android did the best job they could with it. What I really enjoy is that I can port all my apps in Qt to run on Android without much fuss. It's really great fun being able to run my apps on such a tiny, portable piece of tech.
What I hate is all the vendor added crapware and hardware lockdown anti-features that third parties forced upon the users. We need more hackers breaking this stuff down so we can install tighter, cleaner, more up-to-date builds of Android on to our devices.
To be clear: You can't buy windows 7 so the fact it took this long for win10 to out pace it is a pretty good indication of just how badly it sucks.
False. You'll notice the "platinum" "gold" and "silver" lists of things that run without problem on wine are games. Meanwhile, adults needing to make money for a living will find their wares will have problems.
Wine is not for the professional
Only too 3.5 years and fucking with hardware and software to artificially obsolete Win7!
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THANK GOD!!!
I just hope Microsoft doesn't screw it up. They have this tendency to release good version/bad version of Windows since they flopped with Vista after XP. Windows 8 was a similar flop after the great Windows 7.
Corporatism != Free Market
I hear it's one louder.
Serious professional software runs on Linux anyway. (E.g. 3D modeling software.)
Which software would that be? Everyone I know doing Creo, Solidworks, or NX is using Windows...
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Turn off Cortana.
Remove Groove.
Ads? Is that Windows thing, or is that from your browser?
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To be clear: You can't buy windows 7 so the fact it took this long for win10 to out pace it is a pretty good indication of just how badly it sucks.
Not to mention that MS "upgraded" so many Win7/8 users to Win10 unwittingly by dirty tricks. I'm amazed that it has taken this long for 10 to overtake 7. Fortunately Win7 is still available for download from pirate sites.
Why are we celebrating that more than half of the windows boxes are infected by a terrible malware that attack via the windows update mechanism then proceeds to display Ads,add a very annoying search bar, track the user's every move and potentially can turn him into a bot, given how hard it is to disable it's ability to download updates?
I really think this is sad news. Now Microsoft can start wrecking Windows 10 to create demand for a new and "improved" OS. I think the only reason they gave free upgrades to Windows 10 was because of the fiasco of Windows XP. At least that's how it looked to Microsoft's accountants when people were basically satisfied with the OS and had no desire to upgrade.
In reality the OSes and the hardware have already surpassed our normal human needs. Yeah, in theory it's always nicer to do things a bit faster, but the computers have run away from our human perceptions. Opening a program in 20 ms makes no significant difference against 40 ms or even 1 ms.
Humans just don't care anymore. We have a good enough OS (and a fast enough computer and a powerful enough smartphone).
How do you create demand when the customers' real needs have been satisfied? By polishing things up and making good enough better? Or by using upgrades to break things?
One of my older machines has been having increasing troubles with Windows 10 over the last few months. The machine's hardware is still in pretty good shape (except for the DVD drive), but I predict things are going downhill from here, starting with the very next unneeded upgrade.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
My wife was actually quite satisfied with Windows 8, but about equally satisfied with Windows 10. There were even some people who thought Windows ME was okay. The important aspect is why Microsoft allows the quality of OSes to fluctuate so widely. My longer comment above focuses on the economics of creating demand under false pretenses and why we are now in trouble since the last good version (Windows 7) has been eclipsed by a new version (Windows 10), which I suspect (but I haven't seen the source code) is really just Windows 7 with "improvements" to make it more easily breakable with future upgrades.
Do I need to qualify my response? I've never purchased a Windows 10 computer (though I've advised on the purchase of some). All 2-1/2 of my Windows 10 machines were upgraded from Windows 7. Most of my Ubuntu machines were upgraded from Windows XP. My newest machine is actually a Mac, but I dislike Apple for other reasons... Not sure what I'm going to do the next time I am forced to buy a new machine. None of the above is not a viable option (and hoping I die first is even worse, though it solves the problem of viability).
Times up, so I bid you ADSAuPR, atAJG.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
This should be "user base" instead of "market share", since what is measured is web site clients, and not anything sold.
New Win10 machines have ACPI 5.0 (or some AMD chips' AGESA with the same effect) which doesn't work with Windows 7 and no option to use the older styles. OR they have UEFI with no CSM or with CSM boot crippled. OR they have hardware for which drivers aren't being put out for Win7. OR they have hardware which Microsoft has decided is arbitrarily not allowed to run Win7 and does what they can to frustrate such usage via updates when a user is successful in installing it.
Yeah, what a shock. Hardware fails as it ages and must be replaced with new hardware. Your new OS is an objectively worse system all-around except for a few kernel/driver improvements (native XHCI and UAS and direct support for USB booting) that could easily have been backported and a few multi-monitor improvements, but it has that big fat milk teat called "Windows Store" that you can use to milk wallets in your own Apple-esque walled garden of bloated misaligned Electron-style apps. Do everything you possibly can to force people who need to get new hardware for any reason onto your new platform even though the old one is still supported for two more years and OF COURSE the market share will increase over time.
Windows 10 is an abomination. As soon as Bill Gates left the company, it all went to pot. Windows 7 was not perfect at all, but it's what I use whenever possible because the Windows 8+ era took all the fundamentals of proper user interface design and chucked them right out the window in favor of a UI race to the bottom that functions everywhere and is useful nowhere.
Worse yet, you have these brats that think all that glitters is gold that listen to someone like me going off about Windows 10 and declare that I'm just mad because I can't keep up and that I need to get with the times and that Windows 10 is feature-packed ooh shiny awesome stuff and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Tell you what, junior: open a File Explorer window, find a folder eight levels deep on your C: drive, and bang out the keyboard shortcut to make a new folder. I'll time you. Wait, you don't know any keyboard shortcuts and what's a folder and why do I own a 3D printed save icon? Get off my lawn and go back to your shitty tablet.
The largest effect a W10 install has had on me is to make me more of a Mac person...I had to do some updates, etc on a W10 machine, what a POS. Under three layers of crap lie the win 7 panels, but you have to find them. I hope Apple doesn't blow it, or I'll have nowhere to go
I guess you didn't follow the 2nd link? It's about removal - not just disabling - Groove. And it's a process that applies to Cortana and pretty much everything else.
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That reminds me. I could use a suggestion for a host file APK. Any ideas if I should create one?
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OS/2 was different & didn't have a 'registry' (well, kind of but not same in ".ini" files BUT NOT TEXT like Windows ones, these were BINARY format iirc (Faster reads that way, & smart but not simple to work with like text)) & configured via config.sys (like DOS) & though NT had a DOS 'subsystem', OS/2 was the one that had a "better DOS than DOS" (both could run multiple instances but iirc, NT has to have a reg setting for SEPARATING Win16 instances into diff. memspace - OS/2 did that off the bat for Win16 subsystem BUILT-INTO it (literally Windows 3.1)). The Workplace Shell OS/2 desktop was a TRUE OOP type desktop - IF I had to describe Win9x or NT? I'd call theirs an "Object Request Broker" @ most/best.
REXX was a scripting language I felt was a LOT MORE POWERFUL than NT had in DOS batchfiles too.
HPFS was the 'default filesystem' (or FAT) on OS/2 - NTFS was on NT (the latter is better though).
I used OS/2 2.0 - 2.1 & Warp 3 (still have the boxes for them all here, staring @ them now) as last ones I used though - things changed since then? Some, in "internetability" (for lack of a better expression)
* I don't mean to "bust your balls" - BUT they were QUITE different (& a lot of what you stated is "right on" though).
(It's been literally 24++ yrs. since I used it last but I should be FAIRLY ACCURATE above (if not, anyone can feel free to correct me/re-enlighten me/refresh me)).
I liked OS/2 a LOT - never got to develop on it though (I was mainly only a rookie programmer back then & didn't have the 'chops' to use Watcom C++ or Borland C++ for OS/2 then (I was still learning & doing character mode/tty term/DOS programs ONLY then, GUI came a year later or so circa 1992-1994 iirc for me (@ least to the point I could say I was 'fairly proficient' @ it)).
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If it's that simple then why is Windows so prevalent on the desktop? I posted a list of software above. Perhaps you can tell me how well they run under WINE.
Unfortunately, windows 10 includes crap ware like Groove, Cortana, Ads that cannot be uninstalled
All of which can be turned off, uninstalled, or other wise neutered in the windows 10 pro version. I know this because I have done it. Well I did turn cortana back on after awhile. She is kind of useful when you take the time to figure her out. Even the "spy wear" those of you of the tin foil cap like to grouse about can be turned off.
At least in the pro version of windows 10. I think if you get the home version certain things cant be turned off because that is the trade off for getting a cheaper version.
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I believe the ads he is talking about are what windows calls "suggestions." They appeared to me as "suggestions" on the windows menu. But lets be honest, they are ads and not suggestions. They where also successfully eviscerated with a few clicks.
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