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Even More Americans Have Stopped Biking To Work (usatoday.com)

The percentage of Americans biking to work has dropped for the third year straight, reports the U.S. Census Bureau. An anonymous reader quotes USA Today: Nationally, the percentage of people who say they use a bike to get to work fell by 3.2 percent from 2016 to 2017, to an average of 836,569 commuters, according to the bureau's latest American Community Survey, which regularly asks a group of Americans about their habits. That's down from a high of 904,463 in 2014, when it peaked after four straight years of increases....

Experts offered several explanations for the nationwide decrease that has unfolded even as cities spent millions trying to become more bike-friendly. Most obviously, lower gasoline prices and a stronger economy contributed to strong auto sales and less interest in cheaper alternatives, such as mass transit and bikes. The rise of ride-hailing services such as Uber and Lyft and electric scooters cut into bike commuting, said Dave Snyder, executive director of the California Bicycle Coalition.

In at least two American cities -- Cleveland and Tampa -- the number of bike commuters has dropped by 50%.

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  1. Or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It could be that more than ever people live such distances from their place of work that biking represents a significant portion of their day or effort. Whereas driving allows them to spend more time with family or performing additional tasks.

    1. Re: Or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh stop confusing everybody with your facts and logic

    2. Re: Or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or sitting in traffic.

      If you live more than 20km from work, biking can get challenging in the mornings.

      I think most people are just lazy sloth's, and just take the path of least resistance when given a choice.

    3. Re: Or by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I think most people are just lazy sloth's, and just take the path of least resistance when given a choice.

      Of course they do. Resistance is futile.

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    4. Re: Or by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Or sitting in traffic.

      I have never seen a congested bike path in America. If you mean car traffic, then bikes can bypass that by riding on the shoulder. Worse traffic would explain an increase in bicycle commuting, but not a decrease.

      I think most people are just lazy sloth's.

      But have the become slothier since 2016? If so, that should show up in other data as well, such as people walking less, and falling gym memberships.

    5. Re:Or by Kopp · · Score: 1

      Damn, so like 99% of workforce live more than 5 miles from their job place or even 10 miles) ? And all of them also zorks in places with no bathroom where they could change shirt to not be sweaty (apparently, biking to jobs involve you going full speed all the times to end up super sweaty)

    6. Re: Or by orlanz · · Score: 1

      Hummm... 0-60 mph is ~0-100kph. I think since most people drive between 85-100 kph, the latter scale makes more sense.

      Before people remind me of the South and Midwest, most people in the US live near cities and use 55mph roads.

  2. Constant job changes are needed by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    to get ahead since companies don't really give raises anymore, that means you can't really live within biking distance unless you're really, really lucky. Doesn't help that people usually hate cyclists with a passion, and that's if they see them. I've been run off the road more than once by somebody completely oblivious to my existence.

    And of course most cities don't have money for bike paths. No joke, there's several places in my city where there's a path going out but not coming _back_. And a lot of times the bike path has just eroded away and there's no money to restore it.

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    1. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I didn't use to hate cyclists. But in the last couple of years they whined and whined about how they need more space. Now, in CA, you have to be at least three feet away from them if you want to pass them in a car. Guess what? Yep, there isn't enough room to do that on many roads without being in oncoming traffic. So you either sit behind them going slow or you risk getting a ticket for being "too close" to them. This is what happened instead of making the roads where this is a problem "no bike" zones. So of course now I do hate them.

    2. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't hate people who ride bicycles to work. However 'cyclists', meaning the self-identified militant cult member, are annoying. Proselytizing to everyone ("here's a map of routes you can take"), lying ("it's safe", "it's easy", "it's convenient"), and bragging ("I wasn't feeling well so I only biked 50 miles this weekend").

    3. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ya, it's dangerous. And they don't want to admit it. Every year see someone else with a black eye or broken arm or major road rash. I used to ride a small motorcycle, and I realized pretty quick that there was a higher than normal probability of being in a very bad accident that was not at all my own fault. And then I see a significant number of cyclists not even in the bike lanes or who are staying right on that painted white line.

      People have asked me why I don't bike. Never mind the obvious answer that I haven't biked in decades and won't be joining their all day mountain ride anytime soon. My first answer I give is often "there's no safe route for me" and then they look at me like I was spouting nonsense.

      I do agree that I should take my car to work less often, but that means using mass transit (which also means getting more exercise).

    4. Re:Constant job changes are needed by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1, Troll

      Oh, that's just everyday annoyance. Try being a foot/MUNI commuter and getting trapped by critical mass, not once but twice... once while walking to my bus, and once on the bus when the biker assholes looped back.

      That was the day I decided I'd never be a bike commuter. And every critical mass I've witnessed or experienced has reinforced that decision. They're a massive pack of raging assholes, and I have zero desire to ever join their ranks; or even to be mistaken for one of them. And yes, likewise, I hate cyclists as well.

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    5. Re:Constant job changes are needed by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      "However 'cyclists', meaning the self-identified militant cult member,..."

      You should seriously reevaluate your life, no one believes "cyclist" means this.

    6. Re:Constant job changes are needed by dwpro · · Score: 1

      God those greedy cyclist wanting a armwidth of passing space when a collision could mean instant death. What will they want next, dedicated lanes?

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    7. Re:Constant job changes are needed by jeti · · Score: 1

      And then I see a significant number of cyclists not even in the bike lanes or who are staying right on that painted white line.

      Probably because the bike lane is so narrow that you'd be in the dooring zone otherwise.

    8. Re:Constant job changes are needed by burningcpu · · Score: 1

      Agreed. People are generally inattentive during their commute and the roads have the highest traffic at that time. It's just not safe to be around that mess without a metal enclosure and an assortment of safety devices.

    9. Re:Constant job changes are needed by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Oh dear. You have to share the road with other people, it's not just there for your biscuit tin.

      Here's news for you: you are not alone on the road. Roads existed before cars, and they will exist after, and other people have a right to use them too. You have to slow them for them? Suck it up, snowflake.

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    10. Re:Constant job changes are needed by burtosis · · Score: 1

      I live in a large midwestern town and bicycling or public transit are poor to non-existent options for many people. There are plenty of bike lanes, many have replaced actual lanes used on busy roads. However very few people use them compared to the previous auto traffic, they were put in place specifically to restrict traffic access to some dense urban areas. Many people commute 20-40+ miles as the city is spread out over several hundred square miles. The low average density means there are no bus or light rail routes to the vast majority of destination and when these routes do exist expect to change between 3-4 lines and take forever. Not to mention there is plenty of rain all year and snow for up to 6 months. The only person I know who has been reliably able to commute 25 miles each way in snow on a bicycle was 23 and worked in a bike store. Take into account the massive CO2 impact for many human foods and you aren't even saving as much pollution as commonly perceived by bicycling. Mass transit often has lower CO2 emission impact than cycling. What we need is better city planning, better public transportation, better acceptance of e-bikes to extend commuter access, and better adoption of clean electricity for electric vehicles both public and private.

    11. Re:Constant job changes are needed by suutar · · Score: 1

      I figured it was because the tilt in the road surface to get water to flow to the gutter was worse at the edge. But yeah, bikes hugging the left edge of the bike lane always made me nervous when I was going past them.

    12. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Tell you what, friend: don't lump us all together into one group. Bigotry is bigotry.

      Most of us don't 'proselytize'.
      Most of us don't commute on a bike to work either. It's slow, inconvenient, and I for one don't want to stew in my own sweat all day.

      It's safe
      It can be. The 'average' cyclist somehow thinks that they're not living in the same reality as everyone else on public roads. They're not paying attention in the same ways they are when driving, and they should. Same laws apply.
      To be absolutely fair about it, drivers act differently than they should around cyclists, and that makes the problem worse. As an exampIe, I can't count the number of times per month I have to literally wave a car through a four-way stop because they flatly refuse to take their right-of-way. Making things confusing causes safety issues, and despite the protests of cyclist haters, it's not all the cyclists.

      It's easy
      It's convenient
      For an avid cyclist? Sure, it can be. For someone who never does it? No, it's not. As previously stated: it's also inconvient, slow, you can't carry that much with you, and forget about stopping at the grocery store or other errands on your way home from work. Nevermind even discussing rain and snow, or it being near or below freezing out. Remember: I am a cyclist, and I don't do it or recommend it.

      Bragging
      Again: stop lumping us all together. I don't give a damn about this-that-or-the-other sports you watched on TV or the video games you're playing, and I don't go around yakking about the number of hours and miles I ride weekly or what my VO2max power has risen to unless you ask me. Then I'll be happy to bend your ear about it. ;-) Otherwise it's my personal business and none of yours.

    13. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      At the same time there's risk involved in any activity and if you're not prepared to accept the risk then you should not participate, if for no other reason than nervous people make mistakes far more often than confident people do, and on a bike mistakes mean getting injured. FWIW you could end up with repetitive motion injuries and sciatica problems from sitting in your nice safe comfy house playing video games all day every day, and you can get an injury going to the gym for strength training, too. The only way to be 100% 'safe' is to sit still in your house, move very little, and very slowly when you do.

    14. Re:Constant job changes are needed by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      "Cyclists" create traffic jams on a regular basis just by mere crawling on the lane that normally is moving at 40 mph.

      Since most of the cyclists are well-to-do politically active leftist yuppies this tiny minority of population force the laws like ("cars must be three feet away from the bicycle"). As a result, mere passing by a cyclist becomes illegal.

      And that universal answer: "I have a right..." No, you do not have a right to impede traffic, dumbass.

      I respect Guatemalan cyclists - I do not respect their illegal status in the country, but I respect that they cycle out of real necessity: they do not have money either for a car or for "public" transportation that cost almost as much as owning a car.

      The solution is NOT building bike lanes. The solution is creating more diverse systems of public transportation (in my area all that we have is giant empty buses).

      Why is it that in vast majority of countries public microbus transportation is private and profitable except developed countries?

      Nobody wants to ride a bus with a foul mouthed teenagers.

      Google offers correct solution for their workers: company based public transportation that guarantees that your fellow riders make six figures and less likely to engage in anti-social behavior on public transportation. No wonder, leftist imbeciles attack this mode on a regular basis.

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    15. Re:Constant job changes are needed by havana9 · · Score: 1

      About bike paths I have noticed that when they're built aren't well planned and cyclist aren't using them anyway. Especially the ones with a racing bike or those that are delivering foods, because I suppose they have to go slower in the bike paths than on pedestrian sidewalk or the road. I agree that changing place to work means that it's normally difficult to have a job at a walking or biking distance.

    16. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      Near Cleveland, Ohio here. Same exact situation. I suspect that's the case throughout much of the country. Our lefties here openly admit that the goal is not to encourage biking, but to discourage driving and to make it as difficult and inconvenient as possible. What has happened is that the roughly halved capacity of our arterial road network has pushed traffic onto local residential streets. Less so than if Cleveland had not lost more than two thirds of its population over the past half century. But still enough to really annoy and frustrate the dwindling handful of people who actually live there. It provides yet another reason for those who haven't fled to distant suburbs already to do so. No bike lanes on the freeways. Not yet anyway.

    17. Re:Constant job changes are needed by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Exactly. In an ideal world, I would love to bike to work, and have tried it off and on in the past, but:

      1) Safety - I'm not hugely risk averse, but cycling injuries seem to be more a question of when than if, and minor mishaps that would be inconsequential in a car can easily be catastrophic on a bicycle. Driver blindness to bicycles and motorcycles is a real thing, and the potential jeopardy is multiplied when a small miscalculation can send you flying through the air.
      2) Weather - Sometimes the temperature difference between morning and evening can vary by +/-20F, or more. That's to say nothing of precipitation, which requires its own set of accommodations, preparations, and adaptability. Storms are often unpredictable in spring and summer months, and braking is often unpredictable in wet weather.
      3) Hygiene - Workplace showers, where they exist, are often contested during the time they're most needed, and it seems like there's always mildew, slow-draining basins, or something else to make me regret my decision to use them. Also I don't want to take 2-3 showers every day, especially in the winter when dry skin is already an issue.
      4) Time - I average about 12MPH on bike, and 23MPH by car, including time stopped at lights or in traffic.
      5) Mechanical Issues - Flat tires are an inevitability of biking, and chain derailments are a close second. It's less of an issue to deal with them when I'm out on a weekend ride, but when I'm on a schedule it's just one more thing I need to prepare and allow time for.

      True, I have been able to appreciate some stunning mornings with beautiful weather, but I've also frozen my arse off, narrowly avoided harrowing collisions, replaced brand new inner tubes twice on the same day, been utterly drenched and splashed with filthy road water, gotten stuck in a freak snowstorm, had to ride home with no headlight in the dark from a dead battery (both dangerous and illegal where I lived), and broken a pedal resulting in smashing my nuts on the top tube and walking my bike the better part of 5 miles home. It's just not worth it to me.

    18. Re:Constant job changes are needed by fropenn · · Score: 1

      1) Bicycling can be safe - just don't ride on the streets. I wouldn't bike to work if I had to ride on streets, as the safety issue is real and competing with traffic is very dangerous.

      2) There's no bad weather. Just bad gear. Just keep a small bad-weather gear in your knapsack.

      3) Just carry a change of clothes and don't bicycle so vigorously where you generate tremendous amounts of sweat (at least on the way to work).

      4) Bicycling can take longer, but now you also have your workout for the day done, so it is probably overall a time-saver.

      5) Buy a better bike. Do routine maintenance (just like you would do on a car). I have over 2,000 miles on the bike this year and I've had 1 flat tire. (I have had 1 flat tire in the same amount of time on my car, although the car went about 10,000 miles.)

    19. Re:Constant job changes are needed by fropenn · · Score: 1

      You can say the same thing about marathon runners, "healthy" food zealots, sports-car nuts, angry sports fans, dance competitors, dog moms / dads, etc. etc. etc...

      The bad behaviors don't come from the activity itself - it comes from assholes who happen to be engaged in these activities. Every activity / hobby has them, unfortunately.

    20. Re:Constant job changes are needed by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Google screwed up the bus though near its headquarters. Before Google there was a private shuttle used by all companies in the region, and it ran from the Shoreline area to the Caltrain station. Then there was the Microsoft-only shuttle that appeared, and later a Google-only shuttle. So then getting to and from the train station was a problem if you weren't Google. Though maybe in a few years when Google owns all companies in the area it won't matter...

    21. Re:Constant job changes are needed by burningcpu · · Score: 1

      You are a zealot providing advice to a consumer and your advice reflects. Just FYI in case you wonder why people tune you out.

  3. Cleveland and Tampa? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like good news for the people of Cleveland and Tampa. Can't imagine how awful it was biking through the snow and rain and humid heat and everything else those cities will throw at you.

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    1. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by tsa · · Score: 2

      We’ve been doing that for decades here in the Netherlands.

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    2. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I think Cleveland runs quite a bit colder than Amsterdam. And Tampa definitely runs quite a bit hotter...

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    3. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Cleveland tends to run 3-4 deg C cooler in the winter, and Tampa runs 8-10 deg C warmer in the summer. I'll be in Amsterdam in early Feb for the ISE Europe show, if you'd like to talk in person...

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    4. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      In Copenhagen, Denmark, I have commuted (on bicycle) with temperatures ranging from -10C through 32C without problems. Just gotta adjust your clothing and pace. I don't use specialized bicycle gear, just regular clothes.

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    5. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      In Copenhagen, Denmark, I have commuted (on bicycle) with temperatures ranging from -10C through 32C without problems.

      Let me know next time you have to do 32C+ for, say, seven months straight. Which is a mild summer for Tampa....

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    6. Re: Cleveland and Tampa? by reanjr · · Score: 1

      And you don't shower when you get in?

    7. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Great! Cleveland spends weeks at a time with -5 deg C as normal, runs around 1.8m of snowfall a year, and 47 days with snow on the ground. I lived in Belgium for a few years, and I'd much rather live there - climate-wise - than in Cleveland. The winters are MUCH milder in Belgium/Netherlands than in Cleveland.

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    8. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Tolerant leftist is tolerant!

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    9. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      This summer we had two months of 30C+ IIRC, which was the warmest and most sunny summer on record. And if you can do it for a week straight, you can do it for seven months.

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    10. Re: Cleveland and Tampa? by Zumbs · · Score: 2

      Yeah, usually. And I bring a fresh T-Shirt. But if there were no showers at work, I could just change the T-Shirt and apply some deodorant. It depends on distance, how fast you are cycling, the weather and how well your clothes are adjusted to the weather.

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    11. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      We usually have three weeks of snow cover each year. Denmark is typically a bit colder than Belgium/Netherlands, but not as cold as Cleveland. We do get some periods where it gets really cold. Some years back we had a longer period with -10C, but on an average winter it rarely drops below -5C for more than a few days at a time. And the temperature is usually around 0C in winter.

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    12. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by tsa · · Score: 1

      If you think that caring for people is Nazism then I don't need to talk to you.

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    13. Re:Cleveland and Tampa? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Yep, the further North (or, typically inland) you go, the colder winter is! However the original discussion was about Amsterdam and Cleveland/Tampa. Amsterdam doesn't get nearly as bad as Copenhagen - which is not as bad as Cleveland in the winter. And I don't think anyone who's been to both in the summer would say that Amsterdam is as hot or humid as Tampa...

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    14. Re: Cleveland and Tampa? by reanjr · · Score: 1

      Yes it's the bacteria. The bacteria which starts reproducing wildly as soon as you start sweating. You may be fortunate enough to have minimal B.O. but what you're describing is not a workable strategy for most people. You sweat at 9AM, you absolutely need a shower before 5PM.

    15. Re: Cleveland and Tampa? by thedarb · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't want to work next to your stinky sweaty self. Go home!

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  4. Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2

    Motorcycle safety Quote:

    "Per vehicle mile traveled, motorcyclists' risk of a fatal crash is 35 times greater than a passenger car. ... Motorcycle rider deaths were nearly 30 times more than drivers of other vehicles. Motorcycle riders aged below 40 are 36 times more likely to be killed than other vehicle operators of the same age."

    1. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know two guys who bike to work everyday - or did, anyway. One has had something like 7 concussions. The other was just found on the side of the road and had no idea what happened to him. Mr. 7 concussion still bikes, but not Mr. side of road.

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    2. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by Greyfox · · Score: 2

      I've witnessed two accidents involving bikes and cars. Both times I'd lay fault on the guy on the bike and neither one of them was fortunately seriously injured, but it did kill the hell out of their bikes and ruin both their day and the guy in the car's day. I've also seen a motorcycle run of the road by a car that tried to side-swipe it. Given how inattentive drivers are now to even other cars, riding a bike out on the roads seems a wee bit too dangerous to me.

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    3. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup. The accidents are very often not the fault of the motorcycle driver. Or the bicycle rider. Things on the road that are not autos are often difficult to see for many reasons, and not just because some people are stupid. Blind spots abound in automobiles. Now going further than this and having a bike not be in an expected place like the bike line but instead cutting across multiple lanes of traffic without signaling will just compound everything (get off the damn bike, stop at the light, and put your foot on the ground instead of weaving around while you try to keep your balance).

      For example, it was very common for me to experience autos passing my motorcycle within my own lane. That is, instead of getting all the way over into the lane to the left, they'd straddle the line between the lanes so that their car was just a few inches from my knee. And tailgating was so amazingly common, which is highly dangerous because the motorcycle can't safely slow down.

      But my solution was to stop using a motorcycle. I didn't go and play the victim card or demand that the city institute new rules. If I ended up in a hospital bed it wouldn't matter at all if it was my fault or not.

    4. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      as though any of that applies to cyclists. Why has /. posters become so ignorant?

    5. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      More made up "facts" that no one can challenge.

      No experienced cyclist would tolerate such frequent collisions and injuries without doing something about it long before 7 concussions. That's just stupid.

      I knew a Mr. Bad Decision that once suffered brain damage from not riding a bike but was cured once he started bicycle commuting.

    6. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Sure call me a liar, but statistics are in my favor here. Biking is not a safe activity compared to driving.

      I agree, by the way. The guy that continues to cycle despite his concussions is a bit deranged. His wife is begging him to stop. But he's very experienced and very dedicated. He keeps trying to convince me to let him show me a "safe" route to work. Yeah, no thanks buddy.

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    7. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      In one California case a few years ago, a police officer plowed into a cyclist while texting. By using his Cop Immunity(tm) he got away without any punishment, even though the victim was a Silicon Valley CEO.

    8. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

      Cycling is more dangerous than driving, sure. There aren't great statistics but it is several hundred fatalities per year in the US. The risk isn't substantially higher than driving, if you consider the health benefits. There are many hundreds of thousands of people every year who safely drive to work and have a fatal heart attack or stroke due to lack of exercise.

      Anecdotally, I"ve done about 20k miles of cycle commuting in the last several years with no accidents and the 5k of driving I have been rear ended while stopped in traffic twice.

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    9. Re:Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, of course, we've all been in car accidents and that's the point - the roads are very dangerous with all those big hunks of metal on the road. Better to be IN one than ON one. The city with its bike lanes and shoulders is one thing, but when you are in the old inner ring suburbs with its 100-year-old converted farm roads with no shoulder, it is terrifying. People come right up behind you and "tailgate" you if you stay in the lane, and if you move to the side they nearly clip you with their mirrors as they almost universally fail to give you the legal 4 ft. I use my bike for recreation, and I stay on trails and quiet roads. I could probably map out a route that keeps me (mostly) off such roads, but it would be very long and would still need to funnel under the railroad tracks at several places on the main roads at some point.

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  5. Not worth it by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

    Not worth it unless you have a death wish. Also what are you supposed to do in the summer when its hot and humid already in the morning? Get to work and be soaked with sweat? Plus around here we have these things called hills. Some of which are over 20% grade.

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    1. Re:Not worth it by sedman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Worth it is in the eye of the beholder.

      My commute is 18 miles one way and while I don't do it every day, I do commute year round. As to the 20% grades, I have a couple of them I have to deal with each way. There is a significant investment of time to do this, but it beats going to a gym.

      Living in a rural area, the death wish part really only comes into play once I it the city where I work. I've had more close calls in the final two miles than the rest of the commute by several orders of magnitude.

    2. Re: Not worth it by reanjr · · Score: 1

      And so you arrive to work after a workout but without taking a shower? And your coworkers don't hate you?

    3. Re: Not worth it by sedman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since work has a show facility, all of us that commute are smelling fresh by the time we sit down at our desks to work.

    4. Re:Not worth it by dwpro · · Score: 1

      Been commuting 5 years now in Texas, and despite the heat and danger I'm still at it. I enjoy the commute, and feel like it's only slightly more dangerous than my truck.

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    5. Re: Not worth it by reanjr · · Score: 1

      I find it absolutely hilarious that people push for cycling without mentioning the fact that it's a complete non-starter unless you have a shower at work. Do you really think that's normal?

  6. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I realize you are invisible to some drivers. I'll give you that. But nearly all bike accidents I've seen had more to do with bicycle riders not following the road rules. Riding two or three across in a narrow bike lane forcing drivers over the yellow line. Not stopping for stop signs. Not signaling turns. The list goes on. Can blame drivers all you want but you are responsible when you're out there and you have to follow rules too.

  7. Not gas, not cost by markdavis · · Score: 5, Informative

    >"Experts offered several explanations for the nationwide decrease that has unfolded even as cities spent millions trying to become more bike-friendly. Most obviously, lower gasoline prices and a stronger economy contributed to strong auto sales and less interest in cheaper alternatives, such as mass transit and bikes."

    No. Who are these "experts"??

    Almost nobody rides a bike to work to "save gas." For most, if he/she is within easy biking range, that doesn't amount to much gas. And it isn't cost either. Those biking do so primarily for exercise, possible enjoyment, and in some cases to reduce wear on their car (short start/stop trips are rough on ICE cars, plus they sit in the sun parked all day). For most it is certainly not as fast or convenient, especially in bad weather. And it is often very unsafe, certainly if it requires ANY riding on major/busy roads.

    I bike almost every day to work and have for many years, but I also live 0.5mi from work. Yes, I also sometimes walk, but typically want to get there/home faster and also biking deters being stopped for conversations with neighbors :)

    1. Re:Not gas, not cost by MrKevvy · · Score: 2

      Cost was initially a major factor for me. With gas/oil, mandatory insurance, parking, maintenance, tickets and the vehicle itself, I estimated I saved $10-12K a year not having a vehicle. Add to that $800 a year in health club membership I didn't need anymore, as I get enough exercise biking 9.5km to work (10x as far away) and back five times a week. Since I was strapped for cash at the time, I switched to biking and now would not go back even though I could.

      It's not only cheaper but faster than transit to get to work (25 mins. vs. 45 mins. on the subway even living right by a subway station) or getting anywhere in the core, never get stuck in traffic or in one of the endless subway outages due to suicides or signal issues, never have to worry about finding parking, if I get a flat or worse I can take it on any transit anytime (it's a folder), I can ride in any weather condition better than -12C or heavy snow (have ridden in gale-force rain and was fine,) and do almost all of my shopping with it with a carrier and backpack. Once you're used to it, it's an ideal transportation for cities.

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    2. Re:Not gas, not cost by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"Cost was initially a major factor for me. With gas/oil, mandatory insurance, parking, maintenance, tickets and the vehicle itself, I estimated I saved $10-12K a year not having a vehicle."

      My assumption is/was that most people just can't adequately survive without also having a car (I have a car, motorcycle, and bicycle). Especially led that way in my response based on the silliness of the summary saying "saving gas" (which implies they have a car and choose not to use it). I probably should have specified that in my original posting. Sorry about that.

    3. Re:Not gas, not cost by jhecht · · Score: 1

      One person bicycling to work can save the cost of a second car in a family or two-person household. I did that for years when my kids were young and I was working a few miles away, and the savings was important to our budget.

    4. Re:Not gas, not cost by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Amen. It's almost as though the authors know nothing about bicycle commuting.

      I commute 6 miles each way. Total time is basically the same as by car, but I get my exercise in at the same time. It is health decision.

    5. Re:Not gas, not cost by MrKevvy · · Score: 1

      "Anonymous Coward" sums you up very well.

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    6. Re:Not gas, not cost by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      You’re a fucking retard. Cars don’t cost that much a year.

      Maybe he lives where there are Massachusetts taxes and Boston drivers.

    7. Re: Not gas, not cost by reanjr · · Score: 1

      That Porsche is at the low end of the luxury price range, and it will cost you about $6k a year without insurance, maintenance, gas, and parking. You just clearly demonstrated that cars cost $10k/year, you dumb fuck.

  8. People Drive To Avoid in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Driving in the US helps you avoid all the homeless people using public transport or walking. The decision may not be entirely conscious, though it isn't uncommon to find human waste on a seat used for public transport (usually urine, really nasty if it is in fabric seats like those used on BART in SF). The rise in homelessness is likely causing more driving to avoid the problems in US communities like homelessness due to drug addiction and mental illness (or "learned helplessness"). A vehicle in America is essentially a container that can limit what problems you may experience on a day-to-day basis.

    1. Re:People Drive To Avoid in the US by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of homeless people riding in cars as well. Especially in CA, with housing costing 10x per month what a car costs, it makes financial sense to vacate your apartment before selling your car. You can sleep in your car, but you can't drive your house. Factoring in the dual-purpose, you could get 20x the bang for your buck paying for a car instead of an apartment unit.

      I am guessing a lot of these 'missing' bike riders are the working homeless. Now in Florida, probably Ohio too, the spread wasn't so wide between rent and car payments. But recently housing prices have increased much faster than car prices. Last year they could afford an apartment within biking distance. This year they can't, so they are living (and thus commuting) in their cars.

      Californians have been dealing with this for decades now, but the rest of the country is doing its best to catch up in the homelessness business.

    2. Re: People Drive To Avoid in the US by reanjr · · Score: 1

      America getting rid of CA is like the housewife getting rid of her bread-earning husband.

    3. Re: People Drive To Avoid in the US by reanjr · · Score: 1

      And yet, 70 years later, those women still aren't earning as much as the men they left.

  9. Too many drivers texting... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    It is dangerous on a bicycle on the public roads nowadays.

    1. Re:Too many drivers texting... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I believe all of the Earth's crust is crust. I don't believe I saw anyone giving moral advice. (Or advice of any kind.) You seem to either not comprehend what you are reading, or don't quite understand what these words mean. Very proficient with the word "pussy" though - at least nobody will mistake you for a "faggot" or a "snowflake". But you might want to brush up on, well, everything else, unless you want to spend the summer between 9th and 10th grade in school.

    2. Re:Too many drivers texting... by Dusanyu · · Score: 1

      I Stopped biking, and walking outside of my residential neighborhood because of this, too many near hits people drive lately like they have there head up there arse.

  10. Is there a leadership? by Max_W · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does any leader of the US congress or the US government commute to work by bicycle?

  11. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    900K bicycle commuters. Out of 150 million commuters. yeah, a 0.6% sliver of the commuters are going to get ignored - there simply isn't enough incentive to pay attention to their needs.

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  12. I do, even in the snow. by lhaeh · · Score: 4, Informative

    I do, even in the snow, especially the snow actually. I find it takes less time for me to bike to work than to clear the snow off my car in the morning. When I got my job, I went online to look for a place to rent, I put my work's postal (zip) code into craigslist and sorted results for the closest. Bicycle ride is all of 10 minutes. I used to have an hour long commute, it was terrible, what a waste of my life. I'll take a tiny apt over a nice house rather than ever do that again. In the winter, my ride is all in the dark, so I have blindingly bright lights on my bike, no way someone won't see me. About 1/4 of my ride is on a bicycle path, so I get to see lots of nature, rabbits every day, and there is a homeless camp that provides some entertainment as well. That little bit of exercise in the morning wakes me up and leaves me feeling great coming in to work.

    1. Re:I do, even in the snow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It doesn't apply because bicycles operate at a lower speed, with less torque, and can travel in places motorcycles can't like parks and bike paths. It really isn't appreciably more dangerous in the winter.

    2. Re:I do, even in the snow. by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      Forget about that, the homeless camp is gonna take his bike and rape his ass at some point when they realize he sees them as entertaining.

    3. Re: I do, even in the snow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most Americans do live in cities. Jist because a thousand little villages exist doesn't mean they have more people than one of the biggest cities. Much less all of them.

      You don't even know the population based definition of a city, do you?

    4. Re:I do, even in the snow. by lhaeh · · Score: 1

      I used to as well. I found a scooter with tires meant for a mini dirt bike worked very well. Scooters are preferred since they are lighter, lower center of gravity, thicker front tire, no gears, and better wind protection. I've got a dual sport too, but keep that just for the summer now. Handle bar heaters, muffs, and an apron/skirt make a big difference. Side skids/skis like some military winter motorcycles have would be nice.

    5. Re:I do, even in the snow. by lhaeh · · Score: 1

      Been since I was in middle school, I'm almost 40 now.

  13. Hostile environment by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 2

    American towns & roads weren't designed with cyclists or pedestrians in mind, they were designed for the exclusive use of cars. It's an interesting exercise to attempt to retrofit US towns & cities to try to make them safer & more pleasant for cyclists but the fact remains, the distances, roads, etc., are mostly unsuitable. Also, most American towns are butt ugly, dirty, dangerous places to be without the protection of being inside a car. Yes, there are exceptions & congratulations to those lucky people who live in those areas.

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    1. Re:Hostile environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know, in the early 1900s, there was a major push for the US to pave its roads. A large part of that push came from lobbying by The League of American Wheelmen. That's a bicycle club sonny.

  14. Re:I borrowed a shit-ton of money from China by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    You forgot to mention that while you don't have a bike, you do have a $2500 Peloton in that spare bedroom, and it holds up the extra bedspread quite well...

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  15. I've been to the states twice now. by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

    It's dangerous enough in Melbourne, I'll be *DAMNED* if I would *EVER* consider riding a bike on the roads in your country. That's some seriously dangerous roads.

  16. It's the scooters, I tell ya'! by jtara · · Score: 1

    It's because they are taking to gol darn scooters!

    And God forbid you should try to WALK to work in any dense urban area. You are going to be MOWED OVER by scooters on the sidewalk!

    Pretty-much every form of transportation is now total shit-show, at least in said dense urban areas.

    - scooters/bikes/electric bikes on the sidewalks and streets

    - circling and double-parked Uber and Lyft cars with clueless and uncourteous drivers

    - handicapped spaces occupied by Uber/Lyft cars waiting for an assignment

    - Uber/Lyft cars stopping in dangerous places. (They stop unexpectedly to load/unload all the time near me in a red zone just past a train track, thus leaving cars on the track unable to move. There is a reason for the red zone. One of these days....)

    - roving bands of gangsters on the latest "low-rider" electric bike/scooters whatever they call those things (I guess they either are free for the first month, or they've figured out how to hack them already)

    Fortunately, this all resolves itself eventually. The scooters/bike will crash into unexpectedly-opened Uber/Lyft doors, which then will give the roving gangsters an opportunity to rob the Uber/Lyft driver and injured scooter/bike rider. This at least take some of the extra traffic off of the street for some period of time.

  17. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by Dan667 · · Score: 1

    I don't agree. They built a purpose built bike path along a stretch of freeway where I live. No cars, no obstructions or any other thing to prevent a blissful biking experience on it. And yet, no on rides on it. It was a huge waste of money and IMHO a boondoggle. You can't force people to ride bike and in the suburbs to downtown it just isn't going to happen no matter how much is pumped into it.

  18. I don't even ride a bike! by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Seriously ... I may be one of the only adults out there who can say this, but I never learned how to ride a bicycle. As a kid, growing up, I had all kinds of pedal cars, a tricycle or two, a "Big Wheel", etc. Any of them were good enough to ride up and down our street. And considering my dad had an accident as a teenager, when he was struck by a car delivering newspapers, that affected him the rest of his life? He wasn't all that willing to encourage me to get or ride a bicycle.

    Then, I got my driver's license - and bicycles quickly went out the window as things I had any interest in.

    These days? Sometimes I wish I could ride one ... but I have to do a 60 mile commute each way for work, plus occasionally visit other job sites. So it wouldn't be for that. And when I see the prices for decent bicycles these days .... Yeah, I'm not motivated to buy one and figure out how to ride it either, at this point in my life.

  19. hahaha by Zehsi · · Score: 1

    so that's why you're so fat...

  20. Telecommuting by reanjr · · Score: 2

    I imagine most of it's telecommuting. I'd guess there's significant overlap between bike-friendly employers and remote-friendly employers.

  21. Make biking great again by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Clean up the streets.
    No parked RV.
    No tent cities blocking paths and areas set aside for bikes.
    No waste and trash left out on the streets.
    Stop criminals from doing crime in nice city areas. Give good city police back their powers to enforce laws
    No open drug use.

    Make all US cities great again and good people can enjoy their bike commute again.
    Really nice scenic bike routes in and around cities.
    No more having to navigate crime infested urban areas with trash and waste.

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    1. Re:Make biking great again by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "Cops are completely unconcerned."
      Thats direct form the political leaders of big cities.
      Virtue signalling and political correctness allows city laws to stay unenforced. A few changes to city enforcement would make more bike use work for many more people.
      A car is then needed just to stay safe and away from crime, junk, trash and get to work.
      People want to bike but city politics make that extra difficult.
      Spending on light rail, bus, electric car parking, new bike paths to nowhere, then allowing the city crime rate to rise.
      Moving around trash, junk, criminals, blocked paths makes expensive bike use too difficult.

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  22. remote work by jemmyw · · Score: 1

    I stopped cycling because I work from home now. I don't live in the US, but could that be a reason for change?

    1. Re:remote work by aberglas · · Score: 1

      So did I. But I am not sure that it is a good thing. Two 20 minute rides every day was good for both my health and state of mind.

    2. Re:remote work by jemmyw · · Score: 1

      I also moved the the countryside and took up gardening. Good for the mind. Not as strenuous, but still it's something for the body.

  23. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well the problem is right there.

    They built one purpose built bike path along a stretch of freeway. But how do you get to and from the bike path? For a recreational bike path, this isn't a problem - you just have parking lots every few miles for people to get on and off, but for commuting you need safe routes between all the destinations you intend to support. You need to have storage for the bikes at each destination, and you need to have a way for bike commuters to switch modes if conditions change throughout the day.

    You don't need all those things all at once, but you're not going to see much results until you have some areas with all of those things.

  24. Right, everyone has suddenly moved to the burbs by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    Over the last 3 years? Totally unlikely.

  25. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    No idea where these numbers come from other than they're probably made up, but "bicycle commuters" are not the only cyclists nor are cyclists ignored. Cycling infrastructure is for cyclists, not commuters.

  26. Re: Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Drivers aren't as inattentive as cyclists willfullness to drive dangerously. There's a reason semi trailers tell you to stay out of their blind spots. If a car drives in a semi's blind spot and gets creamed, that's on the car's driver. Same for bikes in cars' blind spots.

  27. Sanity, not gas, not cost. by AmazingRuss · · Score: 2

    I bike because driving in SoCal is a shitshow. I've got to where I hate even being in a car, when I have to Uber. Luckily the weather makes that rare. I sold my truck am 400/month richer for that, and I don't have to play asshole roulette on the freeway anymore.

    As an added bonus, I get to give people shit when they say they want the government to do something about global warming, while they burn 80 gallons of gas every month.

  28. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    The 900K from from TFS, and there are about 115 million single-passenger commuters every day, and since that is 75% of all commuters - that means there's about 150 million commuters.

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  29. People's time is valuable ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... that's what's behind the time-savers like food and grocery deliveries and, recently, robotic snack deliveries of snacks on campus.

    Pepsi Is Testing a Snack Delivery Robot On Select College Campuses

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  30. Re: Inconvenient as hell... by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Or maybe you don't understand physiology.

  31. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    How do you know that no one rides on it? Do you? If not, you have no idea, otherwise you are proof otherwise.

    Bike lanes, like roads, often appear empty even when they are used frequently.

    I bike commute daily on a path just like that and I see it used all the time, yet I regularly experience ignorant comments such as your about those very paths in my area. Odds are, you're simply not interested and feel entitled to comment on something you know nothing about.

  32. Because Biking Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When I was a dental student, I would walk and bike to school all the time. It was a six mile ride, and I would arrive sweaty, sore, in a bad mood, and smelling like a jock strap. Then I would have to find a spot to park and chain my bike, hope no one vandalized it while I was in class, and do my best to make myself somewhat presentable for the day. Finally, I would return and bike home in the dark, barely able to see a thing in the light of a tiny LED headlamp. Half the time, I would end up pushing the bike home because a tire would blow, or the chain would pop off the derailleurs, or I would get hurt from hitting uneven areas of the sidewalk. Several times, my bike got vandalized. I did it only because I had little money.

    Today, I'm out of school, and I have some money. My commute is twenty miles. My Sonata PHEV is my own personalized air-conditioned relaxation chamber, with a 32 GB usb stick loaded with my favorite tunes and podcasts. I leave a little early to avoid traffic, and enjoy a leisurely commute with heated and cooled seats. When I leave the car, I exit even more relaxed than when I take a hot shower, and I look and smell as good as the moment I got in the car. My old bike sits in the corner of the garage, awaiting donation to Goodwill.

    As someone who used to bike every day, I'll tell you exactly why people are not biking to work as much: biking sucks major ass. I haven't missed it for a moment.

  33. Generally, it's too dangerous by Kreplock · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've bike-commuted to work in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and downtown Chicago. No matter how close you hug the shoulder, how courteous you try to be, a significant minority of auto drivers are insufferable cunts. They will cruise behind you and blast their horn for no reason, cut you off, hurl bottles and invective at you when passing, and cut you off while looking straight at you so you know it wasn't a mistake. At the end of the day their lives are not at all on the line. It's too dangerous, so I only do bike trails now. Yeah, I guess the fat fucks win.

    1. Re:Generally, it's too dangerous by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      You are a sociopathic imbecile

      They honk at you because you are in the way, dumbass moron.

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  34. Priceless by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    Nothing quite like the viewpoint of someone who can't even ride a bike and knows literally nothing about the subject.

    1. Re:Priceless by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Except I'm one more piece of the demographic who isn't riding a bike to or from work....

      And why would I know "absolutely nothing" about the subject, just because I don't ride a bike? Do you also feel people know absolutely nothing about the trucking industry because they don't work in the profession, and never drove a big rig? I guess nobody ever knows the first thing about automobiles without getting a driver's license and driving one either, right?

  35. Sorry, my fault! by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

    I will try to drink less Sunday night and fight the urge to be lazy the next few weeks to get us back on track!

    Sadly, with cheap Lyft fares, it is easy to be lazy.

  36. Maybe more are now home officed folks by Tangential · · Score: 1

    More and more people work from home every year. Its reasonable to assume that some of them used to cycle to work. That may represent a part of the decline.

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  37. Biking danger risk by spinitch · · Score: 1

    Biking can be very efficient for moderate distances if bike paths most of the way. A decent shoulder usually ok but bad drivers abundant. Pedestrians have right away on sidewalks. I used to bike but after several incidents and to many close calls decided bike travel needs caution which Means long distances at speed increases risk. Since trucks deliver the stuff we need roads are primarily for autos. Support bikes but aware of limits to roads.

  38. Good by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    Biking to work is a stupid yuppie elitist idea. Should have died in the 1980s with flock of seagull haircuts.

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  39. I plotted the graph by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    https://factfinder.census.gov/...

    The trend is visible. After peaking in 2014 it steadily goes down.

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  40. The standard American appearance by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    I can't afford to show up at work sweating and rumpled. That has been the case since I quit my job at a pizza kiosk when I was 16. Where I live now (as in most of the American North) it would be too dangerous to bike to work in the winter. In the south where it's reasonable social change would need to happen far beyond concerns about health. To wit the whole concept of "looking professional" would have to change or companies would have to generally all offer showers, lockers, and a short break to change clothes upon arrival. This is aside from the fact that many Americans live much further from their jobs than Europeans, and without equivalent public transportation. We live in different societies. Deal with it.

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  41. Re: It was just a political fight for some. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    My town (northern AZ) is well-equipped with bike lanes, but we also have a lot of roundabouts, which are relatively new in the state as a whole. Drivers here know that the bike lanes do not continue through roundabouts; bikers are supposed to merge in-line through each roundabout. Unfortunately tourists do not know this, and as a result cyclists are steadily being selected out of the road population. But be warned, for they are evolving the ability to shoot back.

  42. I take the Trumpmobile to work! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Yep... All American, babe! 6000 pounds of Pittsburgh Steel burning pure Kentucky coal

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  43. Re:I borrowed a shit-ton of money from China by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    ... a $2500 Peloton in that spare bedroom, and it holds up the extra bedspread quite well...

    There is a valid reason for that: when you do ride somewhere, there are not many safe places to park a $2500 Peloton.

  44. Re: Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Napster's in-house lawyer, actually. Cop killed him dead on impact. They decided that cop was innocent since they had no rule at the time prohibiting cops from texting while driving. Remember, we're peons to be kept in line, used up and shit out whenever.

  45. Re: Is easy to bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If a cyclist is breaking the law report them. If not shut the fuck up and obey the law yourself. You being an impatient asshole doesn't legitimize your criminal desires.

  46. Re:No way by BlahSnarto · · Score: 1

    i stopped a year or two ago because of the air quality.. But i agree with the amount of clueless drivers..

  47. It's all about the economy by bblb · · Score: 1

    There's no big mystery to it, it's all about the economy. Throughout the majority of Obama's presidency, the economy was depressed and stagnant with many people forced to work one or more part time jobs mostly close to home... they couldn't afford to drive to work so they rode bikes. As the economy has recovered and employment has surged in recent years, people have returned to taking on single, full time, career oriented work outside of their immediate area making biking to work both more challenging and less economically necessary.

  48. Re:Inconvenient as hell... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    Depending one where you are, there may be other options.

    Check the train schedule where you live. I used to work about 35 miles from home (if I drove on the freeway). I'd bike a couple of days a week to the train station, 15 miles away. I'd take the train in and then bike the last mile or two. Total time way about an hour-and-a-half, versus 45 minutes or so on the freeway.

    No shower at the office? Sponge bath. Wash your cycling clothes in the sink and hang them up. Problem solved.

    As for the family, you really can't teach your kids how to cross the street? You have to drive them two miles? Hell, when I was a kid, I used to run more than two miles a day. And, no, I didn't live in a city.

    You should check out Let Grow and give your kids some independence and get yourself off the "must cater to the kids" treadmill.

  49. My sister just told me that... by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 2

    her 18 year old son couldn't walk from his high school to his job after school because of traffic safety in Clearwater, FL. She tells me that it's dangerous to cross the street.

    I asked her "Have you taught him to look both ways before crossing?"

    She said "You wouldn't believe this scooter accident we saw there recently"

    I pointed out "He probably didn't look both ways"

    People don't walk not just because of laziness but because they're scared of EVERYTHING. And they pass it down to their kids. I've been crossing streets for 40 years and never once have I had a problem. I've crossed the street she mentioned many times growing up and even recently when visiting. I can't understand how with nearly a full kilometer of visibility in all traffic directions how it could possibly be dangerous to cross the street.

    But this is America today. America has chosen to stop living because they have too much fear of getting hurt.

    1. Re:My sister just told me that... by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Also to soft to enforce the law. Particularly in the case of female drivers, they can kill you in a crosswalk or even intentionally hit you, and receive no punishment at all.

  50. Re: Bicycles and Motorcycles are not safe on roads by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    To be fair, most of those came while racing - not on his trip to work. He now works from home :)

    And he races less now, mostly doing things like hosting foreign racers at his house and riding in chase vehicles to feed his addiction... he's a good guy, just nuts.

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  51. Well. Motorists still trying to kill me. by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

    Soccer moms driving SUVs while jabbering on their phones apparently find mere bicyclist and pedestrians invisible.

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  52. The Bicycle Menace - P.J. O'Rourke by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Hilarious! Must read:

    http://www.hotels-in-netherlands.com/bikereadercom/contributors/misc/menace.html

  53. Re:Found One by thedarb · · Score: 1

    Good eye!

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  54. Commuting can be the best part of your day! by Tom+Arneberg · · Score: 1

    When Intel bought our chip design group at Cray, they moved us to another town 16 miles away. I was surprised to discover that commuting became the best part of my day! This is thanks to most of that distance being covered by off-road paved bike trails. If there's a safe way to bike to work, I'd highly recommend it -- great way to start the day! https://www.leadertelegram.com...