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Tobacco Use is Soaring Among US Kids, Driven By E-cigarettes (axios.com)
Public health officials Monday said there's a growing epidemic of tobacco products currently used by children -- 4.9 million high school and middle school kids used tobacco products in 2018 up from 3.6 million in 2017 -- mainly due to a growth in e-cigarette usage. From a report: For the fifth year in a row, e-cigs were the most popular product amongst high school students, but in 2018 it reached unprecedented epidemic levels, with the addition of another 1.5 million kids, said Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Current users" are defined as people who've used a tobacco product in past 30 days. "Frequent users" are defined as people who've used the product for more than 20 out of the past 30 days.
I personally doubt they are any better for you, but vape juice is definately not tobacco.
Yeah kids shouldn't be using vapes but should it be considered a tobacco product when it doesn't have tobacco in it? The biggest issues I see with them are that they often contain nicotine which is addictive, and the Fed's refusal to regulate them properly means they could have god knows what in the vape juice. Instead of having the pearl clutching knee jerk of they are evil maybe the FDA should actually regulate the things properly so we can ensure that they don't have unsafe chemicals in them.
âoeFor the fifth year in a row, e-cigs were the most popular product amongst high school students.â
I would have expected social media to be the most popular product. I feel like there are a lot more teens using dangerous things like Facebook and Instagram than e cigarettes.
If I'm Reading this right, about 15% of American adults smoke these days, compared to about 42% of adults in 1942. Granted, this story is about teenagers that will soon be adults, and a million more than expected is not a number to be scoffed at, but really when we start getting numbers down that low, I don't know how much more outrage is necessary. The number is never going to be zero percent, no matter what the Puritans wish.
Almost all nicotine addiction occurs in middle school (not, as many believe incorrectly, in high school and college), and there are people working for the tobacco addiction industry who know this and are doing what they can to addict the next generations of addicts.
And, don't lie to yourselves, you're addicts.
Me, I do socially acceptable addictions that are common in Seattle instead.
Bubble tea ftw!
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I am not sure if anyone noticed but an e-cigarette contains no actual tobacco. As a cigar smoker I am sick of it getting lumped in.
Why is everyone moaning? Our leaders' policies will likely light us all up like Krakatoa before we hit 40. Might as well light up and enjoy because the way things are going, smoking is probably the last thing that'll kill you.
As far as I can tell, the people with a vested interest in opposing cigarettes are also vehemently opposed to e-cigarettes, despite their much lower risk profile.
Time and again I find myself reading "news" stories where e-cigarettes are lumped with tobacco use, and many anti-tobacco activists swear up and down that if you vape candy-flavored vape juice FOR SURE you will switch to Marlboro Reds at the first opportunity.
I just don't see how this could be the case -- I smoked for a decade and *liked it*. In the years since I quit I have tried a few cigarettes out of nostalgia and been absolutely repulsed by them. When I smoked I rolled my own, and occasionally a "light" cigarette smoker would want to try one out of curiosity or because they were out, and almost universally they hated them. If an actual cigarette smoker is turned off by a slightly harsher actual cigarette, then the idea anyone who has only or mostly vaped switching to tobacco seems absurd.
Tobacco is BAD but Marijuana is OK!
That burning sensation in your lungs is ALL NATURAL!
this is exactly why tobacco companies lobbied to have E-cigs classified the same as tobacco. Its so that they can get titles like this and draw more attention off them and onto regulations surrounding E-cigs. Then when the small independent juice and device makers are overloaded with costs due to regulations, big tobacco can come in buy everything up and start lobbying for looser regulations on E-cigs, claiming that they are helping while absorbing all of the profits from the industry. its right there in article:
"FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb told Axios the agency will "have to reconsider our enforcement policy" if these numbers aren't turned around"
Guess who will be the ones to enforce a much more stringent enforcement policy?
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
More popular than Apple, Nike, pornography, snow closure days, and Facebook's latest nightmare loss vector?
E-cigs are not totally safe, but they're way safer than smoking marijuana. If you need your THC, get it some other way than inhaling the smoke from burning pot.
As for nicotine, I get mine from using Swedish snus. Far safer than smoking or using American snuff or dip.
How's about a cheaper, cleaner, safer nicotine delivery system? Regulate that shit like caffeine.
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Australia has smoking rates half in the last 15 years from around 30% to 15%
- We banned tobacco advertising in the 80's
- Put them behind counters out of sight in the 90's
- Instigated plain packaging and banned them from clubs & pubs, office buildings, restaurants in the 00's
- Highest tax in the world making cigs. about $1/stick, so 20/day will set you back $7k/yr
- Poor people are twice as likely to smoke as rich.
- Country people smoke twice as much as city people.
Of our 70 staff, none of our engineers or management smoke (30 staff): about 5 production staff smoke.
I saw most of them try vaping last year, but they all went back to cigarettes because... well I think laziness...
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I can honestly say that the only drug weed is a gateway to is diet pills. And even that seems debatable.
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Yeah, so....not tobacco. Nicotine? Sure. Undeniable and verifiable. Tobacco? Not such much. Just another sorry and sordid example of what passes for "journalism" these days. I swear, yellow journalism was once a thing and it still is, only it can reach many,many more people much more quickly than ever before.
Adolescence is a fairly recent social trends that came about as a economic effect. I say Trend because it's the idea is only around a hundred years old,. These "kids" you speak of , their age group built this civilization, country, sciences, industry... The foundation of everything we enjoy today. They ruled countries, they created the modern world... But they can't Vape if they want to..
Someone somewhere else pointed out that nicotine substitutes (patch, gum) don't work as well as you would think.
Popcorn lung is a likely outcome from vaping, particularly with the flavored vape juice. Your comment is the only one that mentions it. I would mod you up if I had points.
Yeah, Nope. Altria bought a 35% interest in Juul.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19...