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Tumblr's Web Traffic Has Dropped From 520 Million Page Views in December 2018 To 370 Million Page Views in February This Year Following Adult Content Ban (independent.co.uk)

Posted by msmash on from the repercussions dept.

Tumblr's ban on pornography and adult content has led to an estimated fifth of its users deserting the platform. From a report: Tumblr's ban on pornography and adult content has led to a fifth of its users deserting the platform, figures reveal. The ban, which came into effect on 17 December, provoked a backlash from users who claimed it would penalise sex-positive, LGBT and NSFW art communities. Visits to the Tumblr website fell from 521 million in December to 437 million in January and 370 million in February, according to data from web analytics firm SimilarWeb. Tumblr's decision to update its content policy came after the discovery of child sexual abuse imagery on its blogs.

79 comments

  1. page drop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ummmmmmmm......oops?

    1. Re: page drop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to go there for REAL teens. "Teen" does not mean 29, and it does not mean 22. Retards.

  2. Probably worse than that by cirby · · Score: 2

    "Site visits" is a very vague metric.

    If someone went to Tumblr before December, they'd probably end up looking at a lot of different pages, for a lot of page views.

    Now? "Hey, that artist I used to like is gone, I guess I'll hit Newgrounds or Discord again..."

    1. Re:Probably worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Most of us migrated to Newgrounds / Twitter but yeah it's DEAD on tumblr now, I check my feed every couple of days and there's not much content being pumped out at all. The main trouble is users who were banned for adult content usually only ran NSFW side-blogs so you didn't just lose porn you lost SFW content they contributed as well.

      Granted I was only there for the shitposts and art (SFW and otherwise) but the whole place is an empty shell of itself.

      Like I say most of us have moved to twitter for our microblogging and Newgrounds to post are lewd content and so far the experience has been a good one. Tumblr was a real trip, I've been using it for 9 years now but its time is over.

      Conspiracy theory time: it's well known within the Tumblr community that Verizon wasn't making heaps of money with it, some of us think this may have been a self-sabotaging move to make it so unprofitable Verizon just dumps it after a year or so

    2. Re:Probably worse than that by slashkitty · · Score: 1

      Also, they haven't completely banned porn YET! Still lots of porn on the site, and those people looking can still find it!

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    3. Re:Probably worse than that by tatman · · Score: 1

      It's not just the horrendously designed system to detect porn that's the problem. Most of the features only work some of the time. (try the archive URL as in this example: "http://pick-a-name.tumblr.com/archive/" .....it works for some accounts, not for others). That's just one example. If I cared enough, I could document at least a dozen more. I'm confident in that number and its probably even higher when accounting for differences in functionality between browsers, operating systems and apps.

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    4. Re:Probably worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many of us migrated to bdsmlr.com

    5. Re:Probably worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tumblr has never been profitable and Yahoo couldn't find a way to make money with the service after it acquired the company. This is why they had to write down its $1B acquisition cost. Tumbler is a money pit and less visitors are better because the support cost are lower.

    6. Re:Probably worse than that by Quakeulf · · Score: 2

      I ran a creative blog on Tumblr but then they started flagging my posts left and right so I left. Besides, my engagements were getting so low I felt it wasn't worth it anyhow. The issue now is that this censorship is coming to other platforms too, and as with Tumblr, it harms more than it does good, as I was not one who posted questionable stuff. The "worst" offender was a naked woman's thigh, but she was clearly drawn as an adult.

    7. Re:Probably worse than that by TWX · · Score: 1

      You know, you can always register your own domain name, rent server space, and use some kind of content management or blogging software that's either open-source or commercially available. So long as your content isn't so egregious as to attract legal challenge or to make the news for being abhorrent then your provider will probably be fine with taking your money for as long as you wish to maintain the site.

      It's those that have decided that they're going to use someone else's platform that have found themselves losing hosting, rather than those with independent sites.

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    8. Re:Probably worse than that by TWX · · Score: 1

      Trying to read everything of a subject from the Internet is like drinking from a firehose.

      Posting on the Internet is like shouting at people as they go past on a roller-coaster.

      Archiving the Internet is like washing toilet paper.

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    9. Re:Probably worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah not going to give twitter my phone number though

    10. Re:Probably worse than that by Quakeulf · · Score: 1

      Oh, you seem unaware that registrars have been under attack for a variety of reasons, like Gab and that awful Dailystormer-site. Both have been deplatformed so much it seems almost parodical, especially Dailystormer, but it just goes to show those who will silence you will go a long way to do that, and they are powerful and influental.

    11. Re: Probably worse than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lick those capitalist boots!

  3. The lesson is to not take away. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If your business model is based on numbers and traffic, (to show advertising) taking away content will normally bite back.
    It allowed Adult Content, it blocked it, there is a population who used the platform for that content, and now no longer uses it. Thus less add content.

    If Tumblr never allowed the content to begin with, users wouldn't have used the site for such content, and they wouldn't have such a dip in users.

    In general a cut in revenue is worse, then having a slow steady rise in revenue. As any of you who had pay cuts or got fired from your job know. We buy housing, and transportation based on what we are able to support, If we make more money we will usually get a more expensive one. With a price cut, we have a lot of large expenses that is difficult to trim down quickly. That house mortgage is still there, you may still have car payments, It will take time to sell your house and your car may be too devalued to make it affordable to trade in for a cheaper version.
    Tumblr probably now needs to figure out how to run more lean, as a lot of their resources were needed in the past and now they don't need as much anymore, costing them more to operate with less revenue in.
     

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    1. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They should have made an adult spin-off site. Served both markets, resolved the issues for advertisers who don't want to be on a porn site.

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    2. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Or at least enhance its NSFW protections.

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    3. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      cumblr

    4. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

      Maybe.

      You cannot actually know this for sure without knowing their costs. Based on this article, they lost 28.8% of their traffic. If that 28.8% cost significantly more to maintain than the other 71.1%, then this move makes sense. They should focus on the profitable customers.

      So, if all things are equal, then don't take away. If the thing you are taking away consumes something like 70% of your resources, then take it away as quickly as possible, or figure out a way to make it cost less.

      When I acquired another company, somewhere between 5-10% of their customers were no longer our customers, within six months. We made the decision that that 5-10% took up way too much time, and were never happy, for the amount of revenue we were collecting. Right from the beginning, it was clear that some of those clients would not be a good fit for us. Over the next two years, another 5-10% have atrophied out, for the same reasons. Just because someone has been your customer doesn't mean they will always be a good fit for you, or you for them.

    5. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Tumblr, like many such sites, had two big problems they were unwilling to solve. Child pornography and rape videos.

      Their first thought was to force people to sign up to access the NSFW parts. That of course didn't remove this illegal content, it only hid from the general public who didn't have a Tumblr account.

      When that didn't work, and because of their new owners, they said they would ban any NSFW content. Which only moved the same content to a different source but also crushed their views.

      They'll still survive, but with the more artsy pics being predominate. Which isn't a bad thing. I see many pics which have a timeless, classic, sexy look without being "Here's my open legs!" which are a dime a hundred nowadays.

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    6. Re: The lesson is to not take away. by houghi · · Score: 1

      Could be mee, but where is the cut in revenue? For all we know revenue yas gone up. Or went down less than the cost of that pron costed them, so profits went up.

      The opposite is also true. Perhaps they only lost 20% of their vusits, but 50% of their revenue, because the people interested in poern looked also at other things and now left.

      It can also be that a takeover will result in a higher price and tgat is what they wanted. Or they can now get bigger loans to buy up others

      Just because the numbers are lower dpes not mean it is bad news.

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    7. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Solandri · · Score: 1

      If your business model is based on numbers and traffic, (to show advertising) taking away content will normally bite back.
      [...]
      In general a cut in revenue is worse, then having a slow steady rise in revenue.

      Ad revenue is (number of ad impressions)*(price per ad)

      To measure tumblr's revenue, you have to factor in the number of advertisers they had. More advertisers results in bidding up the price per ad impression. So a decrease in number of ad impressions could actually result in an increase in revenue, if it also results in a greater increase in revenue per ad impression. (A bit more complicated here since keeping the porn would've resulted in a decrease in the number of advertisers, but that has the same net effect.) Unfortunately since the company is now a subsidiary (first Yahoo, now Verizon), it's impossible to know whether or not dumping the porn helped without being an insider.

    8. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by epine · · Score: 1

      If that 28.8% cost significantly more to maintain than the other 71.1%, then this move makes sense.

      You can't seriously be suggesting that young bucks with their tongues hanging out of their wallets are the less lucrative constituency of their user base.

    9. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by rjstanford · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its entirely possible that the adult audience was harder to sell ads to, or far more enthusiastic in their use of adblockers. Total traffic should not and does not imply monetized traffic.

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    10. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      A lot of the more "normal" advertisers probably had a way to stop their ads from being served on NSFW pages in the first place.

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    11. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      They should have made an adult spin-off site. Served both markets, resolved the issues for advertisers who don't want to be on a porn site.

      They had no problem with serving "adult content". The reason they banned pornography was that people would upload child pornography. This was a significant business problem because it meant they had to police the site vigilantly which requires humans which you have to pay. Instead of doing this, their solution to remove all pornography was optimal for them because it could be automated. Creating a second site would simply cost them money.

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    12. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by GWXerog · · Score: 1

      Somebody did. It's bdsmlr.com

    13. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by TWX · · Score: 2

      Fark.com tried that in 2006 or so with a new domain name for a site called Foobies, but in the end they still discontinued it. Not sure that a separate site would work when the primary site is largely based on a combination of vanity publishing and counter-culture content including sexual content.

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    14. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      In what way would detecting & removing child pornography be more difficult than regular pornography? If you're using ML, then the process is exactly the same. If you're relying on user reports, then it's almost certainly going to be fewer reports of CP for you to go through, which requires much less effort.

    15. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      To be honest I don't understand why they wouldn't want their ads on NSFW pages. How many consumers would avoid a product because they saw it on a porn site? Obviously they themselves don't object to porn, or else they wouldn't be on that site in the first place.

      Besides, the post-fap time period is when people are done with one activity and are ready to start another. It seems like a great opportunity to remind people to do stuff, e.g. get their oil changed, buy cereal or plan a vacation.

    16. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Do you have actual hard evidence that post-fap is when people plan an oil change?

      I WANT that evidence!

    17. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Lanthanide · · Score: 1

      > I see many pics which have a timeless, classic, sexy look without being "Here's my open legs!" which are a dime a hundred nowadays.

      If you were only using Tumblr for "here's my open legs!" pics, which are indeed a dime a hundred nowadays, then you were doing it wrong.

    18. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Try not to change the services your brand offers.
      Got a chat app and that is what your brand is known for? Dont remove the chat function.

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    19. Re: The lesson is to not take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You tell 'em, Boris!

    20. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      To be honest I don't understand why they wouldn't want their ads on NSFW pages. How many consumers would avoid a product because they saw it on a porn site? Obviously they themselves don't object to porn, or else they wouldn't be on that site in the first place.

      Unfortunately, it's the association, mainstream media publishing stories about how Mrs X was horrified to hear that Brand Y was advertising on a porn site which her husband accidentally tumbled across...

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    21. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by torkus · · Score: 1

      You either misunderstand the content they had to deal with or the viability and ability of ML.

      As best I understand the issue, it wasn't (generally) people posting naked pictures of pre-pubescent children. It was often 14-17 year old children posting their own nudes. Forget machine learning, even actual humans have a difficult time telling the difference between someone who is 17 (illegal CP call the feds) and 18 (yawn, another dime-a-dozen crotch shot) ... oh, and let's not forget the gray area of 'here's my toddler playing in the tub' or 'is that 3yo without a shirt a girl or boy'. Things society generally, broadly deem acceptable and harmless ... unless someone has an agenda and enforces the laws strictly.

      So no, this isn't a problem with an easy solution even for human beings. Tumblr got in the cross-hairs and realized there was no viable way to address the problem with the reliability that FOSTA/SOSTA require...and failing to do so puts the execs of the company at direct, personal, criminal liability. So the dropped the mic and walked off stage. Sorry folks, but you made these ridiculous laws and we ain't playin.

      Just to be clear - I'm not endorsing their ability/need/business model that allowed or utilized child pornography. However, expecting a company to police nudity and determine, to effectively 100% accuracy, which pictures are legal adult content and which aren't is an impossible burden. Especially when much of that illegal content comes from 'bad actors' ... i.e. children themselves uploading the content in direct violation of the laws and site rules.
        Heck, even some content from the adult industry has been from under 18 actors who used a fake ID and got caught later...and they DO have a pretty robust system for enforcing that.

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    22. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by torkus · · Score: 1

      Its entirely possible that the adult audience was harder to sell ads to, or far more enthusiastic in their use of adblockers. Total traffic should not and does not imply monetized traffic.

      If adblockers were that effective then FB and google would cease to exist. And, without some citation to back your claim, I disagree that selling effective ads to people watching porn is particularly difficult. Quite the opposite if anything.

      And while total traffic might not directly equal monetized traffic, it must be a pretty accurate indicator since virtually every. other. website. based on ad revenue tracks this way. Even direct sales websites track views and visits.

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    23. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say he was though so your attempt to be wise and cool failed miserably, you just look amusingly dumb.

    24. Re:The lesson is to not take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I disagree that selling effective ads to people watching porn is particularly difficult.

      Most companies don't want ads for their products placed around adult content. They don't care that porn viewers might be the perfect demographic for buying their products. Companies are terrified of bad press, and want to avoid sensational headlines like "General Motors ads funds anal sex videos".

      As a practical matter, the only advertisers you can get for porn videos are companies selling adult products (e.g. sex toys) or content (e.g. more porn videos).

  4. Or put a different way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before they banned it, a fifth of Tumblr's content was pornography.

    1. Re:Or put a different way by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      Probably more than that: people who get off on pictures of elderly folks, disabled folks - even full clothed - feet, cars (yes, that's a thing - google "mechaphilia") and whatnot can still get their kicks on Tumblr. It's not even discreet: some Tumblr pages I've seen clearly have "Sexy XYZ" in the title.

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  5. And yet it was totally rational by MikeRT · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Unless your business model is porn, you are frankly insane hosting porn mixed with other things in the wake of FOSTA/SESTA.

    1. Re:And yet it was totally rational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. FOSTA and SESTA are regulatory capture to prevent smaller players from entering the lucrative internet market now that the oligopoly is established. "Think of the children," my ass.

  6. Good for them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get that filth and trash off the internet.

  7. Less weird fetish posts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least no more dickgirl pics...

    1. Re:Less weird fetish posts... by slaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm responding to an AC and I already know that is dumb but as someone who has run adult web sites, trans content is
      1. Overwhelmingly consumed by self-identified straight people. There's almost zero interest in it among consumers of cisgendered male/male pornography.
      2. Enormously popular. Easily a top-5 category by most metrics.

      It isn't normalized to the degree that some other content is; we don't joke about it yet on daytime TV, but it wouldn't surprise me if norms change to that point by the time GenZs are in their 30s.

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  8. duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No shit. I said this would happen. There's literally no reason to go to Tumblr now with all the porn banned.

  9. Not sex-positive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop calling perverts sex-positive.

    1. Re:Not sex-positive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Stop calling people who look at porn perverts.

  10. Nobody saw that coming... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

    ...because that type of content was banned!

    ba-dump ching

    1. Re:Nobody saw that coming... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      ba-dump ching

      I think you need to get your cymbals fixed.

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    2. Re:Nobody saw that coming... by slaker · · Score: 2

      Hilariously, post-ban, Tumblr has robo-filters in place that are really only functional for female (presenting) anatomy. If you want to watch see male parts or homosexual male pornography, content is available with almost no barrier on Tumblr. ... which means seeing a male coming is still A-OK so long as there's no titties in the media.

      Yes, it's exactly as dumb as it sounds.

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  11. God bless America... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    God bless America...
    Laaaand of the prudes...

    Oh, and fuck every single senatwhore and congressworm who voted for SESTA/FOSTA. Yep, Dems and Reps alike are at fault, it's not a partisan issue here.

  12. New Math Lesson for the day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Today I learned that 29% == 1/5. Stupid "journalist" should have just gone for the "nearly" 1/3.

    1. Re:New Math Lesson for the day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apples != oranges

      "page hits" aren't the same thing as "active users"

      maybe us porn viewing people look at more pages than people who look at [whatever else tumblr has?]

  13. That's All by mt2mb4me · · Score: 1

    I thought porn was about 90% of tumblr's business.

    1. Re:That's All by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought porn was about 90% of tumblr's business.

      Turns out it was only a fifth. The other four fifths is outrage.

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    2. Re:That's All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, then they're fine. Outrage is a growth industry.

    3. Re:That's All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The full effect of this decision hasn't been felt yet in these metrics. They already lost 20% of users by their standard (aka they deleted their accounts). How many are now going to be dormant because they're just abandoned now? The page views are down by much more than 20% (and still trending lower).

      I think they've lost most of their users already and the metrics aren't showing it yet.

  14. I wouldn't know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All I get from them is a cookie wall that doesn't work, and so I can't even tell them about it. I wonder if they count "end up following a tumblr-link, get redirected to the blank page that is the cookie wall, give up" as a "site visit".

  15. Maybe more than a fifth by Merk42 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Have to take into account the increase in users from all the alt-right content, because racism is A OK on tumblr.

    1. Re:Maybe more than a fifth by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

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  16. So ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    ... 29% of the internet is porn, news at 11?

  17. Is porn "consumed"? by tepples · · Score: 2

    trans content is
    1. Overwhelmingly consumed by self-identified straight people.

    Why "consumed" as opposed to "viewed"? It's not as if viewing a slideshow of erotic photos of a trans person causes those photos to no longer exist in the same way that food is "consumed".

    1. Re: Is porn "consumed"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason project whores refer to requests as "asks":

      Obfuscating language is a hallmark of the incompetent. It hides a lack of real knowledge, disguising it with, "this person sounds like they know what they're talking about".

      Put things into grammatically correct language and it reveals how much money is wasted on unskilled labor. Can't have that!

    2. Re:Is porn "consumed"? by slaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not all content is visual. Tumblr is a multimedia platform and some content can be audio or textual. Further, porn is "consumed" in the sense that for most people part of the engagement is deriving enjoyment then moving on to the next dopamine hit of novelty. It's unusual, especially on a platform that creates a never-ending stream of new content, to return to the same posts again and again. The choice of word was deliberate.

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  18. That's a lot by BECoole · · Score: 1

    of perverts!

  19. You mean "alt-left" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The alt-left content on tumblr is overflowing with racism. And sexism. And genderism.

    https://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

    1. Re: You mean "alt-left" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But but mahhhhh rights!!!!! They attacked my user experience!!!!

      Fucking snowflake.

  20. The rest of the story by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Visits to the Tumblr website fell from 521 million in December to 437 million in January and 370 million in February,

    300 million of those February visits were just to confirm the porn was gone. Good luck with March!

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    1. Re:The rest of the story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not wrong. I still go back on occasion to the few nsfw blogs that still actually work to see if they are maybe still posting, they are not. It's literally 100% twitter now and it's a massive waste of time. Booru's and other aggregates are de way now, unless you want to follow 98 people on Patreon. And by follow I mean pay.

  21. Surprised really by DarkOx · · Score: 1

    I would have expected it to have cost them more than 1/5 of the traffic

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    1. Re:Surprised really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their metrics are painting a rosier picture than actually exists. Tumblr is effectively dead now.

      370/520 = They have 70% of the clicks they had two months ago. That is going to get worse. They aren't counting people who did not delete their accounts as "abandoning" the platform. Dormant accounts = abandoned to me.

  22. i left for different reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never really got into the tumblr porn, i left because it kept getting more tumblry

  23. The real problem is all those politicians.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Into child sex abuse, on both sides of the aisle.

    Jeffery Epstein anyone? It was literally stated he had blackmail material on enough big players in business and politics both for him to need to be the fall guy, and for that evidence to need to disappear so the establishment didn't collapse.

    And look where we are now. The biggest players in sex abuse, whether in the US, UK, EU, Canada, or abroad are all in industry and politics. You know why? Because they can afford it.

  24. Talk about an over-reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not much more to say than over-reaction. Is banning all porn really worth it if it means the end of your company?