I know your being witty and all, but i just upgraded a production sendmail box w/o blinking. no downtime. no wonder MS boxes are never patched. They REQUIRE downtime (reboot) to apply.
E 0.17 isnt competing w/ gnome or kde. from what i've gathered,.17 is a pretty version (software render, Open GL renderer), more user friendly (a themes builder etc), and then it has EFM, a smallish FM. fully custimizable like anything raster does, w/ mimetype support etc.
raster and mandrake have coined.17 as a desktop shell as opposed to just a wm or something as complex as an actual environment like gnome.
i suck at explaining, check out enlightenment.org, its just gone through a redesign and has some good info.
What?#$ nobodys said Duke 4ever? ? That game is gonna rock. Actually 3drealms shouldnt have ANY problems porting it over. I heard they are currently porting the engine over from UT instead of the original unreal engine. UT has already been ported, they should have the majority of codebase for the linux port already..Sure duke4ever is still like a year away but that game (i think) is gonna slaughter halflife in single player action.
Oh and definatelively Team Fortress 2. Game just looks awesome with neat game play...nuff said.
Oh and halo . . .
Oh and need for speed also rocks.
I play too many games. LOKI: HELP ME GET RID OF MY WIN98 PARTITION BY PORTING THESE GAMES OVER!! thats the only reason why it exists on my system and i'm getting sick of rebooting just to play some good ol Q3a. yea the q3a port is already out but until X4.0 comes out i'm stuck in windows..
You just described my life! I DO stop playing at eleven or so with about 5 Mnt Dew cans scattered across my desk, near my 19" monitor! oh but no microwave pizza..its generally pizza rolls. This is too eeri(sp?) I know most of us/.ers have lots of things in common but someone just wrote my biography:) Oh and for the record, i went to a lan party over the weekend, first time i played q2 since q3test was released. I was totally zoned in a zen state fraging everything and doing jumps such that i was freaking out. I never noticed how much different q3 is from q2.
Now that I've read the interview I thought of a really good question. Figures.
I wonder If he's ever met Linus or not. I'm sure they would get along great. I'd love to listen to one of their conversations though I probably would only understand about a tenth of what they talked about.
Linus and John just seem to be mirror images of each other some times. I just know linus would love to cruise in johns car while talking about software in general.
I have been passively watching gnome develop since around.60 and am very excited about the progress everyone has made. With that said I have noticed that there is not really a gnome user community. For instance, the KDE web site just seems more pointed toward users while the GNOME site is concentrating on a developer style site. Another thing I noticed during the interview is how much you are developing to ease the development work. I of course understand this but it seems the majority of development is to make development work easier, with users and UI falling just behind that. With so much work being done on this the gnome user community seems nonexsistent. I know that Miguel has setup a website with the help of volunteers to get users to supply input on UI matters etc. I just wonder if GNOME will reorient itself to the userbase, instead of technical white papers a mass fury of user level documentation and support would really help out GNOME, IMO.
I'd like to point out that Linux is not UNIX. Or more specificly it is not a UNIX deviritive(SP?). Linux will have to find its own way, we don't have marketers and Hype like UNIX did back in its day.
Dont get the UNIX community confused with the linux community (albiet there are overlaps).
You sure whine alot. Especially considering I dont see anything "NEW" from you or anyone else who just sits and complains. PLEASE stop whining and do something! What not a programmer? Well think of something that is "NEW" and let programmers know about it. Damnit man the cup is half full okay?
You guys keep on looking at a lack of upgradability (and those damn bunnypeople) but intel and co aren't looking to sell these things to you. Can you imagine working at CompUSA selling PCs when some red neck comes in and you start your sales pitch but he says "shutup boy, i want that blue one right yonder there" that is what they are marketing. its pretty and its for the layman. I'm sure that it'll last for awhile but soon after even the layman will find out that he was screwed and will want more expandability, IMHO anyway. Besides, I dont think its a bad idea if computers will now be marketed like cars/clothes(albiet a little annoying). It will drasticly(sp?) raise the standard of computer usage to that of the TV or phone, again IMHO.
oh and what were they saying about ease of use? they _were_ talking about windows? hah no comment
bad troll, be nice. Running a bunch of processes as root is kinda insecure. Okay real insecure. Thats why you dont do everything as root, not becuase you aren't well versed enough to do so.
I think I should change my threshold to 1 now. . .
Granted that mediaone doesnt exactly have awesome TV service, but they finally started putting up new lines in my area for cable modems, I've been waiting for this thing for 10 months now. And I am still waiting. If I have to use AOL or MSN to get a cable modem, I may have to go on a rampage or something.
The fact that I only get a 26.4 connection from my house doesnt help. Oh and the quake3test? hah! I wish. Probably will have to stick with a nice 300ms ping on quake2. oh the humanity! -doobman
yeah thats a cool feature that opera had that i really liked. It would also be pretty sweet to have a html type footer where you could create your own hot list time bar. that would be cool... just a couple more cents =)
ditto. i did try the win32 version to see what it was like though. I was impressed. I dont like the interface as it was not very nice looking but i'm sure thats more like temporary etc. it does render stuff pretty fast tho. overall i think mozilla just rocks.
Mr Lucas was personally reviewing each trailer to make sure it only gives away what he wants it to. The trailers are the ONLY thing that I have watched related to the upcoming episode I. I dont think the trailers themselves will give away anything. It will only force me to wait inline for a ticket two days before it comes out.
95% unseen is good enough for me. Especially since I have been awaiting this movie for like 3 years now. I only have so much patience
73% downloaded, screw ET, I'll be in class anyway...
I really do try to ignore trolls but this is too funny! Ok IBM and co invest in a company to make money. Suits only understand suits, not hackers etc. IBM receives a commercial product by supporting a commercial distro like RH. RH in turn recieves global support from IBM... Life is good. What the hell would IBM (from a suits perspective) gain from investing in a noncommercial distro?
we really need to stop feeding these trolls after midnight... I really hate irrelevant posts
the title bar etc. isn't bad but i would definately sidebar the slashdot/freshmeat news and have RH news down the middle. Or at least present the portal part a little better. oh hell, make a portal.redhat.com and move the layout there. The portal idea is cool i guess but not for a corporate homepage. Its kinda unprofessional. I would have been confused as hell if i was a newbie looking for linux info etc. Let alone if I was a PHB.
i would say your just a little paranoid. Corel is taking a risk even going with linux. How could they possibly make money if WP only worked on their distro? They might as well make WP only for OS/2.
sorry your so paranoid.
Right now linux is still only used by techies. (ie isp, geeks, etc) Do you think we/they would use WP if they had to change from their fav distro? dont think so.
I actually thought Rob was joking when he said he almost wet himself. I now know he wasnt because I almost did as well. Was this trailer released yet? I knew one was coming but I didnt know the date.
Note to self: 1) just hold on to march for q3test... 2) then play q3test 'til may 19 3) get in line for tickets on may 21 4) get in line for tickets on may 23 lather, rinse, repeat
someday i hope you have articles about myself:) maybe we should start some kind of fanclub? kudos to/. and rob (and the readers that make it so great) oh well back to work
..against them. This is truely beautiful if you ask me. They use the law to get what they need. lawsuits and buying out other companies etc. Now the OSS community is turning it around! ironic and beautiful!
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female printer? i'd never buy one of those. I have a hard enough time keeping my blasted slave drives.
I know your being witty and all, but i just upgraded a production sendmail box w/o blinking. no downtime. no wonder MS boxes are never patched. They REQUIRE downtime (reboot) to apply.
uhm, the linux binary *is* on the retail box of the UT cd.
and the linux binary patches are online w/ the win32 patches.
doof
E 0.17 isnt competing w/ gnome or kde. from what i've gathered, .17 is a pretty version (software render, Open GL renderer), more user friendly (a themes builder etc), and then it has EFM, a smallish FM. fully custimizable like anything raster does, w/ mimetype support etc.
.17 as a desktop shell as opposed to just a wm or something as complex as an actual environment like gnome.
raster and mandrake have coined
i suck at explaining, check out enlightenment.org, its just gone through a redesign and has some good info.
What?#$ nobodys said Duke 4ever? ? That game is gonna rock. Actually 3drealms shouldnt have ANY problems porting it over. I heard they are currently porting the engine over from UT instead of the original unreal engine. UT has already been ported, they should have the majority of codebase for the linux port already..Sure duke4ever is still like a year away but that game (i think) is gonna slaughter halflife in single player action.
.nuff said.
Oh and definatelively Team Fortress 2. Game just looks awesome with neat game play..
Oh and halo . . .
Oh and need for speed also rocks.
I play too many games. LOKI: HELP ME GET RID OF MY WIN98 PARTITION BY PORTING THESE GAMES OVER!!
thats the only reason why it exists on my system and i'm getting sick of rebooting just to play some good ol Q3a. yea the q3a port is already out but until X4.0 comes out i'm stuck in windows..
definately need D4ever and TF2 tho.
You just described my life! I DO stop playing at eleven or so with about 5 Mnt Dew cans scattered across my desk, near my 19" monitor! oh but no microwave pizza..its generally pizza rolls. This is too eeri(sp?) I know most of us /.ers have lots of things in common but someone just wrote my biography :)
Oh and for the record, i went to a lan party over the weekend, first time i played q2 since q3test was released. I was totally zoned in a zen state fraging everything and doing jumps such that i was freaking out. I never noticed how much different q3 is from q2.
Now that I've read the interview I thought of a really good question. Figures.
I wonder If he's ever met Linus or not. I'm sure they would get along great. I'd love to listen to one of their conversations though I probably would only understand about a tenth of what they talked about.
Linus and John just seem to be mirror images of each other some times. I just know linus would love to cruise in johns car while talking about software in general.
I have been passively watching gnome develop since around .60 and am very excited about the progress everyone has made. With that said I have noticed that there is not really a gnome user community. For instance, the KDE web site just seems more pointed toward users while the GNOME site is concentrating on a developer style site. Another thing I noticed during the interview is how much you are developing to ease the development work. I of course understand this but it seems the majority of development is to make development work easier, with users and UI falling just behind that. With so much work being done on this the gnome user community seems nonexsistent. I know that Miguel has setup a website with the help of volunteers to get users to supply input on UI matters etc.
.002$ of observation
I just wonder if GNOME will reorient itself to the userbase, instead of technical white papers a mass fury of user level documentation and support would really help out GNOME, IMO.
just my
-doobman
I'd like to point out that Linux is not UNIX. Or more specificly it is not a UNIX deviritive(SP?). Linux will have to find its own way, we don't have marketers and Hype like UNIX did back in its day.
Dont get the UNIX community confused with the linux community (albiet there are overlaps).
i'm sure your talking about RAS et al.. too bad this test does _NOT_ have them running. Hence the statement
You sure whine alot. Especially considering I dont see anything "NEW" from you or anyone else who just sits and complains.
PLEASE stop whining and do something! What not a programmer? Well think of something that is "NEW" and let programmers know about it.
Damnit man the cup is half full okay?
--doobman
You guys keep on looking at a lack of upgradability (and those damn bunnypeople) but intel and co aren't looking to sell these things to you. Can you imagine working at CompUSA selling PCs when some red neck comes in and you start your sales pitch but he says "shutup boy, i want that blue one right yonder there"
that is what they are marketing. its pretty and its for the layman.
I'm sure that it'll last for awhile but soon after even the layman will find out that he was screwed and will want more expandability, IMHO anyway.
Besides, I dont think its a bad idea if computers will now be marketed like cars/clothes(albiet a little annoying). It will drasticly(sp?) raise the standard of computer usage to that of the TV or phone, again IMHO.
oh and what were they saying about ease of use? they _were_ talking about windows? hah no comment
-doobman
bad troll, be nice.
Running a bunch of processes as root is kinda insecure. Okay real insecure. Thats why you dont do everything as root, not becuase you aren't well versed enough to do so.
I think I should change my threshold to 1 now. . .
-doobman
Granted that mediaone doesnt exactly have awesome TV service, but they finally started putting up new lines in my area for cable modems, I've been waiting for this thing for 10 months now. And I am still waiting. If I have to use AOL or MSN to get a cable modem, I may have to go on a rampage or something.
The fact that I only get a 26.4 connection from my house doesnt help. Oh and the quake3test? hah! I wish. Probably will have to stick with a nice 300ms ping on quake2.
oh the humanity!
-doobman
yeah thats a cool feature that opera had that i really liked. It would also be pretty sweet to have a html type footer where you could create your own hot list time bar. that would be cool ...
just a couple more cents =)
-doobman
ditto. i did try the win32 version to see what it was like though. I was impressed. I dont like the interface as it was not very nice looking but i'm sure thats more like temporary etc. it does render stuff pretty fast tho. overall i think mozilla just rocks.
just my 2 cents
-doobman
damnit
stop that
Mr Lucas was personally reviewing each trailer to make sure it only gives away what he wants it to. The trailers are the ONLY thing that I have watched related to the upcoming episode I. I dont think the trailers themselves will give away anything. It will only force me to wait inline for a ticket two days before it comes out.
95% unseen is good enough for me. Especially since I have been awaiting this movie for like 3 years now. I only have so much patience
73% downloaded, screw ET, I'll be in class anyway...
I really do try to ignore trolls but this is too funny! Ok IBM and co invest in a company to make money. Suits only understand suits, not hackers etc. IBM receives a commercial product by supporting a commercial distro like RH. RH in turn recieves global support from IBM... Life is good. What the hell would IBM (from a suits perspective) gain from investing in a noncommercial distro?
we really need to stop feeding these trolls after midnight... I really hate irrelevant posts
doobman
the title bar etc. isn't bad but i would definately sidebar the slashdot/freshmeat news and have RH news down the middle. Or at least present the portal part a little better. oh hell, make a portal.redhat.com and move the layout there. The portal idea is cool i guess but not for a corporate homepage. Its kinda unprofessional. I would have been confused as hell if i was a newbie looking for linux info etc. Let alone if I was a PHB.
oh well, just my 2 cents
-doobman
i would say your just a little paranoid. Corel is taking a risk even going with linux. How could they possibly make money if WP only worked on their distro? They might as well make WP only for OS/2.
sorry your so paranoid.
Right now linux is still only used by techies. (ie isp, geeks, etc) Do you think we/they would use WP if they had to change from their fav distro? dont think so.
I actually thought Rob was joking when he said he almost wet himself. I now know he wasnt because I almost did as well. Was this trailer released yet? I knew one was coming but I didnt know the date.
Note to self:
1) just hold on to march for q3test...
2) then play q3test 'til may 19
3) get in line for tickets on may 21
4) get in line for tickets on may 23
lather, rinse, repeat
I gotta cut back on this caffiene kick..
someday i hope you have articles about myself :) /. and rob (and the readers that make it so great)
maybe we should start some kind of fanclub?
kudos to
oh well back to work
doobman
it simply allows people using an alternate os the ability to get refunded of the microsoft tax by using microsofts own tactics.
-doobman
..against them. This is truely beautiful if you ask me. They use the law to get what they need. lawsuits and buying out other companies etc. Now the OSS community is turning it around!
ironic and beautiful!
-doobman