Windows* you get one cd with some nice programs like Paint and Calculator, MineSweep.. etc... You then had to buy,steel any other software you needed. The system even without any extra software had bugs and security holes. If you look at most major linux distrobutions you will notice that you get a hell of allot more software. I would be interesting if striped a linux systems to equal the funcionality of a default Win 9* system.(sofware wise). Then you can look for security problems and bugs.
I have been using linux at home for more than 2 years, the reason I switched is because I wanted something like the sun server I use at work but for use at home on a System Administrators budget. The sun servers have not gone down in 2 years unless we take them down. (yes they are on ups)
I must say also that some good things are coming out of linux being pushed into the spotlight even if linux would fail (I dont think it will every go away). It is causing Microsoft, Sun and most other major vendors to produce a better product. Things take time I think within the next 5 years there is going to be something better for everyone to use. I dont think it will be Windows, Linux or Solaris but I am sure that it will be unix like which is cool with me.
Thanks Flame away.... -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I host 2 site with half price. They use SUSE and apache with php and mod perl. Im not sure why they did not go with that. I have talked with there lead unix systems guy and he seams very nice. -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I would like to second that!! I have the php manual from the web site but it would help to have some nice books like any of the Perl books to use while I learn it. Also Postgres is in the same boat, I have the manuals from there we site but it would be nice to have more. I would also like to add that when in doubt I buy O'Reilly. I found that all the books I have bought (upwards of 15) have all been well writen and very technical.
Thanks O'Reilly -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I got a email from them on the 16th saying that it was shipping that day. I had pre ordered it. I think suse is soooo much better than RedHat. -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If this is the same autostart worm we got on all of our macs about 6 months ago. It is a pain to clean up. It propagates using quicktime. I slows macs down alot and crashes them. It also just about killed our nt sever with macintosh shares.(at the time we did not have a any linux server). I would cause a pause on all the macs in the plant every 10 minutes or so. If you watched the little lights on the nt server they would be hammered and it would bsod more that usual. -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If you go to http://egg.microsoft.com (which is a linux server) They are talking about chatting and IM proticall. I think it is just the next step to a fully web based world where we live in our computers and (@#slap#@) oh i was having a moment... Just my 2 cents. -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
There is a local console game store that also imports games from other country's. They had a dreamcast and where showing it of about a week after it was sold in japan. It did look good by i only speak/read english so i had no idea what all the menus said. He was also tying to sell it for around 800 dollars(a little high but it did come with some games and other stuff.) -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I got the following error from them when i tried to open one pannel of there frame in to a new window. ----------------------- Error Occurred While Processing Request Error Diagnostic Information Error resolving parameter WEBPRICE Cold Fusion was unable to determine the value of the parameter. This problem is very likely due to the fact that either:
1.You have misspelled the parameter name, or 2.You have not specified a QUERY attribute for a CFOUTPUT, CFMAIL, or CFTABLE tag.
The error occurred while evaluating the expression:
price = #webprice#
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFSET), occupying document position (23:1) to (23:26).
Date/Time: 04/08/99 13:49:20 Browser: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i686) Remote Address: 205.246.80.11 Template: D:\thelinuxstore\wwwroot\catalog\system1.cfm --------------- Wow is that a NT box. Or does cold fusion use paths like Windows. I thing that if they sell Linux Boxes they should not host on NT. (just my 1/2 cent) -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I had just got home from work last night and also noticed the Linuxstart.com banner on slashdot. I then sighned up for email there(i did have a hotmail account but it got spammed alot). I also at the same time was at irc.slashdot.org and said that it (the banner) was on for a while.
bye the way I also have my own domain which is where I had Lancaster Co Linux User Group untill I found hypermart.net which is now hosting LCLUG. They give you cgi & 20 megs for the cost of a banner at the top of your page(free). If you own your own domain you can have BLABLABLA.org hosted by them with a banner of course for free(what a deal). -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
This is just my 2 cents. I just as in saterday 3/20 installed suse6.0 and i like it alot better than rh5.1 but it did take a lot longer to install they had more packeges to select. Within 30 min of instlall i had upgraded to 2.2.3 kern and set up x windows and my modem and all that stuff.
I just bought it one week ago now i see that 6.1 is going to be out(Now like SUSE6.0 better than RH5.1) I am going to see if i can get them to send me a new cd or I just will order one from cheepbytes.
"SuSE Linux 6.1 - mit Kernel 2.2.3, KDE 1.1 und GNOME 1.0. Lieferbar ab 12. April 1999.
The international version of SuSE Linux 6.1 will be released in May 1999."
I am now testing Suse 6.0 with 2.2.0-pre7 which came with the distro but i will soon to be at 2.2.3 as soon as i compile it. One thing that i do not like is they give you afterstop 1.0 that sucks afterstep 1.6 was stable public for 3 months or so and i do not like the speed of KDE its to slooowwww..
Sorry for the spelling..... From what i understand, they are doing it to all convicted murderers and sex offenders. They were going to add burglers to that list because they some times end up killing people while robbing them. I do not think that is to bad. If i get killed or what not it would like to have the persons dna on file so if i cut him and he leaves blood or stuff they can find him.
ps. Once you are in jail or the army you are owned by the goverment.
---By the way i made some spelling errors so deal with it----
The Sega DreamCast has a modem and uses widows ce of the cds so lets hope that playstation does not do the same thing, it seams like they are not.....
Also so i have read that playstation2 will not be able to play normal dvd's due to the fact that it would take money away from sony dvd sales......
One bad thing about sony it they are so damb propiatary with there stuff. Did you ever try to buy a battery for a sony phone. You pay twise at much just because there plug is a little different than the cheaper one.
just my 2 cents
also i do have a playstation and use it allot -- Joshua Curtis Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
While attending Lisa 98 (USENIX) in boston I took a class on linux as a server (so work would allow it to be used there) by the head sysadmin at redhat. He was asked and did say that as far a he knows RH 6.0 will be with kernel 2.2.0 but of course that could change......
Notes will still crash my nt machine without even having it up. And i love those lovely Dr.Watson errors all the time about notes causing this program and that program to crash.......
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I think this entire comparison is dumb.
Windows* you get one cd with some nice programs like Paint and Calculator, MineSweep.. etc... You then had to buy,steel any other software you needed. The system even without any extra software had bugs and security holes. If you look at most major linux distrobutions you will notice that you get a hell of allot more software. I would be interesting if striped a linux systems to equal the funcionality of a default Win 9* system.(sofware wise). Then you can look for security problems and bugs.
I have been using linux at home for more than 2 years, the reason I switched is because I wanted something like the sun server I use at work but for use at home on a System Administrators budget. The sun servers have not gone down in 2 years unless we take them down. (yes they are on ups)
I must say also that some good things are coming out of linux being pushed into the spotlight even if linux would fail (I dont think it will every go away). It is causing Microsoft, Sun and most other major vendors to produce a better product. Things take time I think within the next 5 years there is going to be something better for everyone to use. I dont think it will be Windows, Linux or Solaris but I am sure that it will be unix like which is cool with me.
Thanks Flame away....
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I host 2 site with half price. They use SUSE and apache with php and mod perl. Im not sure why they did not go with that. I have talked with there lead unix systems guy and he seams very nice.
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I would like to second that!!
I have the php manual from the web site but it would help to have some nice books like any of the Perl books to use while I learn it. Also Postgres is in the same boat, I have the manuals from there we site but it would be nice to have more. I would also like to add that when in doubt I buy O'Reilly. I found that all the books I have bought (upwards of 15) have all been well writen and very technical.
Thanks O'Reilly
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I got a email from them on the 16th saying that it was shipping that day. I had pre ordered it. I think suse is soooo much better than RedHat.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If this is the same autostart worm we got on all of our macs about 6 months ago. It is a pain to clean up. It propagates using quicktime. I slows macs down alot and crashes them. It also just about killed our nt sever with macintosh shares.(at the time we did not have a any linux server). I would cause a pause on all the macs in the plant every 10 minutes or so. If you watched the little lights on the nt server they would be hammered and it would bsod more that usual.
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If not then they would be down as we speak.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If you go to http://egg.microsoft.com (which is a linux server) They are talking about chatting and IM proticall. I think it is just the next step to a fully web based world where we live in our computers and (@#slap#@) oh i was having a moment...
Just my 2 cents.
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
There is a local console game store that also imports games from other country's. They had a dreamcast and where showing it of about a week after it was sold in japan. It did look good by i only speak/read english so i had no idea what all the menus said. He was also tying to sell it for around 800 dollars(a little high but it did come with some games and other stuff.)
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I got the following error from them when i tried to open one pannel of there frame in to a new window. -----------------------
Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information
Error resolving parameter WEBPRICE
Cold Fusion was unable to determine the value of the parameter. This problem is very likely due to the fact that either:
1.You have misspelled the parameter name, or
2.You have not specified a QUERY attribute for a CFOUTPUT, CFMAIL, or CFTABLE tag.
The error occurred while evaluating the expression:
price = #webprice#
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFSET), occupying document position (23:1) to (23:26).
Date/Time: 04/08/99 13:49:20
Browser: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i686)
Remote Address: 205.246.80.11
Template:
D:\thelinuxstore\wwwroot\catalog\system1.cfm
---------------
Wow is that a NT box. Or does cold fusion use paths like Windows. I thing that if they sell Linux Boxes they should not host on NT.
(just my 1/2 cent)
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I had just got home from work last night and also noticed the Linuxstart.com banner on slashdot. I then sighned up for email there(i did have a hotmail account but it got spammed alot). I also at the same time was at irc.slashdot.org and said that it (the banner) was on for a while.
bye the way I also have my own domain which is where I had Lancaster Co Linux User Group untill I found hypermart.net which is now hosting LCLUG. They give you cgi & 20 megs for the cost of a banner at the top of your page(free). If you own your own domain you can have BLABLABLA.org hosted by them with a banner of course for free(what a deal).
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
If you go to Microsoft download page you can get IE for Solaris.
Not that you would want it. But if Microsoft wanted to could they not just port the solaris IE to Linux and other unix's.
Ps I have not used IE for solaris so i do not know how bad or good it is.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
That would be interesting to see?
I have 4 and try to get 2 a year or so.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
This is just my 2 cents.
I just as in saterday 3/20 installed suse6.0 and i like it alot better than rh5.1 but it did take a lot longer to install they had more packeges to select. Within 30 min of instlall i had upgraded to 2.2.3 kern and set up x windows and my modem and all that stuff.
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I just bought it one week ago now i see that 6.1 is going to be out(Now like SUSE6.0 better than RH5.1) I am going to see if i can get them to send me a new cd or I just will order one from cheepbytes.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
also there german page say this
"SuSE Linux 6.1 - mit Kernel 2.2.3, KDE 1.1 und GNOME 1.0. Lieferbar ab 12. April 1999.
The international version of SuSE Linux 6.1 will be released in May 1999."
I am now testing Suse 6.0 with 2.2.0-pre7 which came with the distro but i will soon to be at 2.2.3 as soon as i compile it. One thing that i do not like is they give you afterstop 1.0 that sucks afterstep 1.6 was stable public for 3 months or so and i do not like the speed of KDE its to slooowwww..
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I think the internet was made just for porn and spam. We are all just on barrowed time...
:-)
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
Sorry for the spelling.....
From what i understand, they are doing it to all convicted murderers and sex offenders. They were going to add burglers to that list because they some times end up killing people while robbing them. I do not think that is to bad. If i get killed or what not it would like to have the persons dna on file so if i cut him and he leaves blood or stuff they can find him.
ps. Once you are in jail or the army you are owned by the goverment.
--
Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
I was pissed when i noticed that my new (work) gateway came with a winmodem. It is owned by work so i guess i just have to deal with it......
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
---By the way i made some spelling errors so deal with it----
The Sega DreamCast has a modem and uses widows ce of the cds so lets hope that playstation does not do the same thing, it seams like they are not.....
Also so i have read that playstation2 will not be able to play normal dvd's due to the fact that it would take money away from sony dvd sales......
One bad thing about sony it they are so damb propiatary with there stuff. Did you ever try to buy a battery for a sony phone. You pay twise at much just because there plug is a little different than the cheaper one.
just my 2 cents
also i do have a playstation and use it allot
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
hotmail is owned by microsoft and that about tells you what to expect....
nuf said....
While attending Lisa 98 (USENIX) in boston I took a class on linux as a server (so work would allow it to be used there) by the head sysadmin at redhat. He was asked and did say that as far a he knows RH 6.0 will be with kernel 2.2.0 but of course that could change......
Notes will still crash my nt machine without even having it up. And i love those lovely Dr.Watson errors all the time about notes causing this program and that program to crash.......