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Quake III Arena Demo Test for Linux
We're being barraged with submissions that the Quake 3 Demo Test for Linux is now available, along with Win32 and Mac versions for the OS-challenged. I just tried it and the download was maxing out my DSL line, so I guess the Sandpiper guys are on the job.
Probably 100,000 Linux users read the story about the Linux version being pulled from the UT cd. I'm willing to bet you Brandon got less than 50 hatemails.
We will never get away from that half a promille of the Linux users who behave like children (mostly because, well, they are children).
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Just out of morbid curiosity, how did your system get that number?
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Let's hope that the word actually gets out that such a thing as Quake 3 for Linux exists. Games are (sadly) one of the major blocks for people from moving to Linux, and if they realise that they can still play the best FPS they'll be one step closer!
(Who cares about spreadsheets, when you have Quake?)
So how does Sandpiper work? Distributed proxies? It seems kinda sketchy.
~Chris
After all this, you're gonna download Q3 and do it all again?! Yessir.. that's the general idea...
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I'm not flaming you, I just wanted to point out that raw percentages are rather mis-leading: even 1% isn't really terribly small. Percentages are just not a good means for convaying magnitues.
Bill - aka taniwha
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I beleive that's a server message (ie sent from the server).
Bill - aka taniwha
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A while ago I took the binaries for Q3Test 1.08 and posted them on cdrom.com for all those who had the Windows version and didn't need to re-DL a 50MB pak? Could someone do the same for the Demo please? I know it would only be like 1meg and taring a directory is easy as pie (just make sure you don't tar the pak along with it).
;)
Please? I mean, they should already do this over at iD, but someone just do it for them. I did.
yeah
50mb came down the pike in 5 minutes. Pshew... long way from the bad ol' days of:
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I had no problem getting the mid wheel setup under the new demo. Works like a charm. Getting the demo to run as a whole was a tad bit more dificult but it runs none the less. and it sure is nice lookin ;)
"We hope you find fun and laughter in the new millenium" - Top half of fastfood gamepiece
"Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
Well, somewhat true. Voodoo1 and Voodoo2 takes over the CRT, so it'll automatically be fullscreen (if you connect a diffrent monitor to your Voodoo you'll see that X is still unning as usual in the bg). With a MGA Gx00, you have the choice of running windowed or fullscreen. The only thing is, fullscreen is really only "windowed-up-in-the-left-corner-of-the-screen" while the resolution is changed to make it look like fullscreen. It works fine though. :)
/Svenne, aka Kerberos
Slagborr
Trying to argue that consoles are better that PCs on features alone is pointless. You can .always. get a better gaming system on a PC than any console if you throw enough money at it.
consoles are better in terms of price/performance.
Quality of games available might be another argument.
scratchy sound? We must be really weird to listen to all the near CD quality mp3's everyone here has on cheap speakers. You plug your PC into your stereo.
Im personally not bothered about a few fps difference in speed between windows/linux if it means i dont have to keep booting into windows to run games. As long as the speed difference is not too big then im happy.
looking at unreal tournament and quake3, 'cross platform games, more of your please' is all i can say.
in your $HOME/.q3a/demoq3/ dir you can edit the
q3config.cfg and change seta r_smp "0" to seta r_smp "1" I would gather. I don't have an smp machine at home to test it on or I would. As far as the TNT (i have an stb velocity 4400), I can get it to run smashingly but everytime I restart it acts funny (sounds getting hung and what not). All I have to do is something silly like go into setup for graphics and slide the detail down a notch so it forces you to apply the changes, once it restarts to apply it works fine. go figure. Others have said that for the TNT make sure you lighting is set to lightmap instead of vertex but it works fine for me either way. Full screen and windowed.
"We hope you find fun and laughter in the new millenium" - Top half of fastfood gamepiece
"Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
Rather dissapointing that we're at a point where every week a new graphics card comes out with a proprietary chipset yet we can only run games on one chipset introduced 5 years ago that costs twice what most chipsets cost nowadays. 3DImage 975: $30 cheap. Voodoo 3: $73 obsolete.
I got annoyed with having to use NVidia's 3.3.3.1 X server, and their glx.so module wouldn't work in 3.3.5, so I compiled their source against 3.3.5.
The binaries are available here.
Doesn't seem any faster than their 3.3.3.1 server, but at least it lets you use 3.3.5.
Heh... if I remember the story correctly, it was before Doom came out - rumors were flying about what Id was working on, and someone created the hoax of "Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Piles Of Putrid Debris" - a rendered 3D full-VR multiplayer environment with AI bots and ... you name it, it was gonna be it. Apparently quite a few people were taken in with this hoax.
:)
Then, in a strange twist of events, someone actually went out an _coded_ SPISPOPD - only it was a lame 2d sprite game.
To honor the whole thing, "idspispopd" became a cheat code in Doom.
That is, if I remember correctly.
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Ian Peters
I've posted a tarball of the Demo without the Pak files included for all of you who requested it. It is located at http://www.glue. umd.edu/~spong/q3demoTEST-1.10-5-NOPAK.i386.tar.gz . I don't know if this is violating any kind of license, so Id Software: let me know if it is and I'll take it down.
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Well, the thing is, I don't think my cheap video card can even run it. I'm going to try, but I'm already convinced that it will flop.
But after all this great information, I am seriously cosidering a high-end video card.
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That's exactly how I got 144 megs of ram.
As for the old 16MB SIMM, yes, it does slow down the system a tiny bit, but nothing noticeable.
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Scott Miga
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It works beautifully with my Riva TNT2.
I was just wondering what kind of system it was that those pictures were taken on?
I have a AMD K6-2 400, with 144 megs ram, but a cheap video card.
The game should look good if I get a good video card, but what does everyone suggest? And is my system fit for running smooth and looking good in q3?
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Scott Miga
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According to somebody who commented on the game at linuxgames.com said that by replacing the MesaVoodooGL.so.3.3 with MesaVoodooGL.so.3.1 from the old q3test 1.08 will fix the problem.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
do you have a voodoo3? The voodoo3 drivers in both linux and windows are *NOT* smp-friendly. Apparently they're locking some resource q3 needs for r_smp 1 to work, so until 3dfx fixes it, r_smp will get you nothing.
But just so you know you're not all alone, I only use one of my two celerons with my v3 3000.
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Actually, one of the guys that comes to our regular lan parties is in the same boat as you. A few games of q3 or halflife and he's about to hurl. What he uses is an elastic band that fits around your wrist and has a plastic bit that presses on a presssure point that alleviates your motion sickeness. You can probably find them in a drugstore. I don't have a specific name of brand. Hope that helps.
Actually, it was just a self-referential joke - I use Win95/98 on a daily basis and Linux very rarely, so I was joking that... oh, never mind. Didn't mean to pull your wind-up string, buddy. Sounds like you need to go frag someone - and since there are any post offices open this time of night, I hope it will be in Quake.
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Check out this site for drivers. I also have a K6-2 300 with a G200, and I get more than 1fps, but not enough to be playable. I'm using the Debian-packaged version of the drivers, now horribly outdated (from august, iirc). I'll try compiling from the latest source and see how it turns out.
The only time I've seen it go that slow is using software rendering.
You need 3D hardware with drivers to run Q3 at a reasonable speed.
Try GLX. I've been playing Q3Test on my 450 MHz Celeron 300A, 64MB, G200 8MB. I've turned much of the detail down to max the framrate, as multiplayer shooters are best in go-fast-but-look-ugly mode. The limiting factor for internet play is definately my 33.6 modem.
Modems suck. I'll have to leave it running overnight to download the Q3Demo. But it's worth it.
Hmmmm, I don't know about you but I can tell he's lying. Using my Telepathy-over-IP (patent pending) I can sense that his roomate's computer is getting exactly 5.6 fps more than his running the same benchmark...
r ? Have you thoroughly benchmarked all the possible hardware/driver combinations under Linux using each game? How do you know that "There is no possible way that Linux is faster." What studies of the kernel architecture for each OS have you done that I can refer to in order to find truth in your statement?
/. community is not here to try and moderate you down and bash on you just because the majority of us use an operating system(s) currently engaged with Microsoft products in a stuggle for market share. You haven't even been moderated down yet, what makes you think we want to do that? Your opinion is as free as anyone else's, but that gives you no right to personally insult others and refute their claims without evidence to prove your points.
*sarcasm off*
How many games have you played under Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD/Solaris/Irix/whateve
Most of the
You may choose to insult me as you did the previous poster, daring the moderators to "hurt" your posts in some masochistic manner, but all of this would only serve to make us think less of you and what you have to say.
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keep acting shocked and move slowly towards the cake.
Well you didnt do your homework Quake 3 GREW UP ON THE MAC!