I used the original Firebird (0.7 I think), and I really liked the name. Back then, you had extract the tarball and create a desktop shortcut yourself. So, I used a picture of a Firebird doing a smoky burnout as the icon. Now if only I could get my Camaro to do a burnout like that!
Firefox is also the name of a really good Clint Eastwood movie.
I got my OEM Dell a few days ago and it is the sweetest computer I have ever had. I even got a full, unrestricted OS install CD with it, and no crapware. Of course, it came with Ubuntu preinstalled.
There are 2 shopping centers within a 5 minute bike ride of my house. However, I have to drive, as they don't believe in sidewalks in the DC suburbs, and I don't really feel like tangling with 50+ MPH traffic on a bike. So, I have make these short trips in a car, which I get terrible gas mileage. If they designed the roads so they were a little more bike/pedestrian friendly, maybe some people would get out of their cars every now and then. In many DC suburbs it is impossible to go anywhere without a car.
Los Angeles is actually quite pedestrian friendly, even in the suburbs (the older ones anyway). My mother never had a drivers license, and I had a range of about 15 miles with bike/skateboard and bus. There, most streets have sidewalks, or they are wide enough so you can ride a bike without tangling with car traffic.
Dell Dimension E520N Intel Core2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB), Ubuntu Desktop Edition version 7.04 $775.00 1 $775.00 Dimension E520n Intel Core2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB) Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Monitor No Monitor Video Cards 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache Hard Drives 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache Floppy Drive and Media Reader No Floppy Drive Included Operating System Ubuntu Desktop Edition version 7.04 Mouse Dell 2-button USB mouse Network Interface Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet Modem No Modem CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio Speakers No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) Warranty and Service 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor - Next Business Day Miscellaneous Award Winning Service and Support Environmental Options Recycling Kit and Plant a Tree for Me
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Dell is supposed to start selling PCs with Ubuntu preinstalled. I've been installing Linux on systems since the days of Redhat 8 (Ubuntu, Linspire, Mandrake, SUSE), and never had an problems recognizing hardware. The only PITA was getting 3d video to work, but that has often been a PITA in Windows too.
My old SUSE box fried, and I need a new one. Dell is supposed to start selling Ubuntu PCs tomorrow and I plan to get one.
All you slashdotters that are planning to get a new Linux PC soon, get a Dell. Even if you don't plan to run the installed Ubuntu distro, you'll know the hardware will work with your favorite. Dell is very serious about this. I have talked with their sales and tech support. An employee posted AC on the article yesterday, saying they needed to sell 20,000 units to consider it viable (actualy 19,999 after I place my order). If they are successful, you will find a lot of hardware manufacturers will listen and release "Tux compatible" hardware and drivers (or open source specs).
I have had 3 Dell systems over the last 4 years and haven't had a single h/w problem with any of them. Meanwhile, my whitebox fried after less than 2 years.
I am. My old Linux box fried, and I need a new one. I plan to buy on the first day they are offered (I think it is supposed to be Thursday). I'll probably keep the pre-installed Ubuntu, but even if I don't, I know my hardware will work with Linux.
My old Linux system fried a few weeks ago, and I suddenly am in the market for a new PC. I have owned Dells for years and have never had any problems with them (other than having to reload Windows). I could have bought another bare bones system or rolled my own, but I am waiting for Dell. I talked to a sales rep who was very helpful, and also let me know about the training required for the support staff. It is obvious that Dell is very serious about this. It will be really nice to actually have supported hardware.
I think that 20k number may be hit in the first few days. I hope I don't have to wait too long for my PC if Dell gets overwhelmed.
Larry Ellison once said of Oracle "can't break it, can't break in". From a security view, Oracle then was a total POS. Even worse than Windows - the worst was 9i release 1. Now, it is a little better as long as you are running 10g R2. If you are running any earlier version of Oracle, upgrade now before your databases are 0wn3d. Better yet, secure them behind firewalls from your corporate intranet. I think Larry used the quote to get some free R&D from the hackers. Now, they can't use any sales pitch to our organization with the work "break" in it without getting laughed out of our building.
Anyway, now they are calling their version of Linux "Unbreakable". All they did was put their logos on Redhat EL4. At least they could have added a configuration option for running an Oracle database
My timeline got screwed up when I found the long lost "Restraunt at the End of the Universive" game in a close out bin at Egghead during the Win95 launch, after Microsoft had merged with Sirus Cybernetics Corporation. The game cost $9.99, along with $10 for some good British ale, leaving me with 1 penny in my Beezer bank account.
After leaving Egghead, I noticed the sky was....
Drinking 3 beers and waiting for the end, I noticed something out of the corner of my eye. A spaceship. Except, it looked more like a restraunt than a spaceship. Everyone else, was ignoring the spaceship. Just running around it, pretending it wasn't there.
Slartbartfast came out of the ship, and said "Arthur Dent, we have been waiting 11 years for you to get the game. We need your help. The Restruant at the End of the Universe forgot to patch their time servers with the DST patch. As it turned out, one of the End of the Universe time-shifts occured during the DST switchover. Thus, The Restruant is exactly one hour in the future, after The End. With The Restruant after the End, then entire space-time continuim of the universe is unraveling. Our only hope is if you can find the patch, get to the Restruant, and apply it."
You get into the ship and take off, the powerful Bistromathics drive getting you to Magrathea in seconds. You attempt to download the patch from the Sub-Etha-Net using your Guides newfangled "Sub-Etha-Net Explorer", but all it tells you is
This page cannot be displayed
There is an icon which looks like a paperclip on a piece of paper. It is winking at you...
I'll see you and raise you. My posts are encrypted with 23 levels of ROT-T, after which you have to deal with the NME. If you can somehow get past the NME and to my final level, I'll use your own routines to decyrpt your text.
I have years of experience dealing with both Windows and Linux. They can both be a PITA under certain circumstances.
Windows wins in the games department. My arcade machine (air gapped from the internet) runs XP.
Linux wins in the security department. It is too easy for your Windows machine to be 0wned if you click on the wrong website. Part of this is IEs integration with the OS, as well as the general Win32 architecture itself. Linux's advantage here comes from its Unix heritage, where it is designed to run untrusted code by end-users.
Everything else is a wash. Once something doesn't work right, it is a royal PITA to fix it in either one.
Last fall, I bought an el-cheapo Kodak camera from Best Buy. After filling up the internal memory with pictures, I plugged it into the USB port on a Windows computer, expecting to see it in explorer. No dice. Windows did not recognize the USB device. After spending about 1/2 hour installing 100mb of crap from the Kodak CD, I finally was able to see my pictures on the Windows computer but it still was a major PITA.
Fustrated with the Windows experience, I plugged the camera into a PC running SUSE 10.0. As soon as I plugged it in, a dialog box came up: "A camera was detected. Would you like to import your photos into F-Spot?"
Now I manage my entire photo library using F-spot. The really cool thing is, I can ACTUALLY find my photos. I have never been able to do that before.
Even in Windows, the command line has a power the GUI doesn't. The Windows cmd is actually quite powerful. Its just that the syntax (and lack of documentation) would scare a Unix geek. There are all sorts of useful things (like deleting a service) you can do easily from a Windows command prompt that you can't do from the gui.
In Windows, the man pages are accessed through HELP. You can just type HELP to get a list of commands. The two most useful commands for batch files in Windows are FOR and SET.
I once had a consulting job setting up disaster recovery for Oracle failsafe and SQL server. It was a 2 week job and involved scripts for configuring the clusters, managing the EMC software, the Oracle failsafe, SQL server, and everything else. The project was a total success, the client was happy, and I produced exactly 3 windows.BAT files to implement the solution.
Supporting end users is always easier with a command prompt. I can simply email them the commands I want them to run and have them email me the output back. I may have to tell them how to start a command prompt and copy/paste into it, but that is still easier than talking them through a complex gui. Of course, I'll take a BASHJ script anytime over a Windows one.
Have you ever had an option that you wanted in a gui greyed out, and you have no clue why it is greyed out? Totally miserable, especially if you have to support a user.
I run a large website that was originally set up for a corporate intranet that was standardized on IE. When designing the architecture of the site, I never used any Activex or any other MSFT technologies. I pretty much used stadard HTML with CSS and a little Javascript.
A few years ago, we started opening our site to selected customers on the Internet. On of the first ones had standardized on Netscape 4.7 (They would not upgrade to IE or a later verson of Netscape for security reasons). Needless to say, all of my CSS looked like shit. It took me about 2 hours to change the CSS back to font tags where they looked like shit and leave everything else alone. The fonts still look a little different for my Netscape 4.7 users, but the website is quite usable.
I figure, if my site runs on IE5 and Netscape 4.7, it will probably run on all the rest.
Several years ago, before I switched over to Linux, I installed Mozilla 1.0 (before Firefox) for the built-in popup blocker. Then the security vulnerabilities started showing up in IE. I was banking with Suntrust at the time, and when I tried to use online banking, it required IE. I complained to them about the security problems using IE, and that I wouldn't use IE for online banking. I eventually took my business elsewhere (for this and a number of other reasons). Now I don't do any E-commerce on any Windows computer, nor do I use IE for any Internet browsing, for security reasons.
You forgot the Jokers line from the first Batman movie. "How do I get this wonderful WGA product? Don't worry... you already have it! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!..."
I still use 2000 at work, though I think we will be required to upgrade to XP in about a year. At home I switched to Linux a long time ago. I may buy another computer someday with Windows on it so I can play an important game. Then again, maybe I'll just get a Wii.
How true, even for 74 Foxtrot (Computer Programmer/Analyst). In basic, my contraband Walkman held up quite well (Sony actually made good products then). My POS M-16 didn't. The frickin lower receiver broke, and since it was all one piece, they had to get me an entirely new weapon. At least the new one didn't jam all the time. In AIT (computer school), I bitched all the time about having to program in COBOL and JCL. At my first duty assignment, I bitched about having to use an Apple II instead of a C-64, which could render the radar images a lot better, and so on throughout my time of service. Now, as a civilian, I bitch about having to use Windows. Some things never change.
I did something like this at work, which I got from Scott Adams "The Joy of Work". I wrote a little program which installed as a service and randomly beeped (print ascii 7) every 20 minutes. However, my evil co-worker accomplice changed the requirements and had it set to every 2 minutes. Thus, the prank only lasted about a day instead of the week of chinese water torture I had intended.
I also have a newer, nastier program, which I have never deployed. This one also runs as a service and wakes up every five minutes. When it wakes up, it selects a random number from 1 to 2000, and displays a dialog box with the NT error message corresponding to the random number. Most of the numbers don't have an error message, so it just goes back to sleep. There is nothing like getting a dialog box with a red X, a title of "Windows", and a message like "The control blocks have been destroyed." If you ever deploy something like this, make sure all of your system admins are in on it.
That dome probably would be easier to install kitchen cabinets in thant the two houses I did it in. The first one, the wall was so out of plumb that even though the countertop had a cut away section of about 1 inch, I maxed that out and still had about an inch gap on both sides (the wall bowed in, think reverse dome). The other one, the wall was about at an 80 degree angle, instead of the usual 90 degrees. I had to shim the cabinets like crazy and they were still so crooked you could see it easily with the naked eye. And don't get me started about installing the baseboards....
At least with a dome, they pretty much have to do it right otherwise it falls apart.
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I used the original Firebird (0.7 I think), and I really liked the name. Back then, you had extract the tarball and create a desktop shortcut yourself. So, I used a picture of a Firebird doing a smoky burnout as the icon. Now if only I could get my Camaro to do a burnout like that!
Firefox is also the name of a really good Clint Eastwood movie.
I got my OEM Dell a few days ago and it is the sweetest computer I have ever had. I even got a full, unrestricted OS install CD with it, and no crapware. Of course, it came with Ubuntu preinstalled.
There are 2 shopping centers within a 5 minute bike ride of my house. However, I have to drive, as they don't believe in sidewalks in the DC suburbs, and I don't really feel like tangling with 50+ MPH traffic on a bike. So, I have make these short trips in a car, which I get terrible gas mileage. If they designed the roads so they were a little more bike/pedestrian friendly, maybe some people would get out of their cars every now and then. In many DC suburbs it is impossible to go anywhere without a car.
Los Angeles is actually quite pedestrian friendly, even in the suburbs (the older ones anyway). My mother never had a drivers license, and I had a range of about 15 miles with bike/skateboard and bus. There, most streets have sidewalks, or they are wide enough so you can ride a bike without tangling with car traffic.
Dell Dimension E520N
Intel Core2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB), Ubuntu Desktop Edition version 7.04 $775.00 1 $775.00
Dimension E520n Intel Core2 Duo Processor E4300 (1.8GHz, 800 FSB)
Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs
Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard
Monitor No Monitor
Video Cards 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache
Hard Drives 250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache
Floppy Drive and Media Reader No Floppy Drive Included
Operating System Ubuntu Desktop Edition version 7.04
Mouse Dell 2-button USB mouse
Network Interface Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
Modem No Modem
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Speakers No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
Warranty and Service 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor - Next Business Day
Miscellaneous Award Winning Service and Support
Environmental Options Recycling Kit and Plant a Tree for Me
Dell Home Customers: Save $150 instant off on this Dell Dimension E520N! - $150.00
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM USB 2.0 External Hard Drive $119.00 1 $119.00
Subtotal: $744.00
Shipping and Handling: $34.98
Shipping Discount: -$34.98
Tax Total: $36.98
Total: $780.98
So did I. Comes with 1 year onsite support too. I don't remember that for my Windows Dells...
Dell is supposed to start selling PCs with Ubuntu preinstalled. I've been installing Linux on systems since the days of Redhat 8 (Ubuntu, Linspire, Mandrake, SUSE), and never had an problems recognizing hardware. The only PITA was getting 3d video to work, but that has often been a PITA in Windows too.
My old SUSE box fried, and I need a new one. Dell is supposed to start selling Ubuntu PCs tomorrow and I plan to get one.
All you slashdotters that are planning to get a new Linux PC soon, get a Dell. Even if you don't plan to run the installed Ubuntu distro, you'll know the hardware will work with your favorite. Dell is very serious about this. I have talked with their sales and tech support. An employee posted AC on the article yesterday, saying they needed to sell 20,000 units to consider it viable (actualy 19,999 after I place my order). If they are successful, you will find a lot of hardware manufacturers will listen and release "Tux compatible" hardware and drivers (or open source specs).
I have had 3 Dell systems over the last 4 years and haven't had a single h/w problem with any of them. Meanwhile, my whitebox fried after less than 2 years.
"Dell recommends Ubuntu Feisty Fawn"
I am. My old Linux box fried, and I need a new one. I plan to buy on the first day they are offered (I think it is supposed to be Thursday). I'll probably keep the pre-installed Ubuntu, but even if I don't, I know my hardware will work with Linux.
My old Linux system fried a few weeks ago, and I suddenly am in the market for a new PC. I have owned Dells for years and have never had any problems with them (other than having to reload Windows). I could have bought another bare bones system or rolled my own, but I am waiting for Dell. I talked to a sales rep who was very helpful, and also let me know about the training required for the support staff. It is obvious that Dell is very serious about this. It will be really nice to actually have supported hardware.
I think that 20k number may be hit in the first few days. I hope I don't have to wait too long for my PC if Dell gets overwhelmed.
"Dell recommends Feisty Fawn"
Larry Ellison once said of Oracle "can't break it, can't break in". From a security view, Oracle then was a total POS. Even worse than Windows - the worst was 9i release 1. Now, it is a little better as long as you are running 10g R2. If you are running any earlier version of Oracle, upgrade now before your databases are 0wn3d. Better yet, secure them behind firewalls from your corporate intranet. I think Larry used the quote to get some free R&D from the hackers. Now, they can't use any sales pitch to our organization with the work "break" in it without getting laughed out of our building.
Anyway, now they are calling their version of Linux "Unbreakable". All they did was put their logos on Redhat EL4. At least they could have added a configuration option for running an Oracle database
My timeline got screwed up when I found the long lost "Restraunt at the End of the Universive" game in a close out bin at Egghead during the Win95 launch, after Microsoft had merged with Sirus Cybernetics Corporation. The game cost $9.99, along with $10 for some good British ale, leaving me with 1 penny in my Beezer bank account.
After leaving Egghead, I noticed the sky was....
Drinking 3 beers and waiting for the end, I noticed something out of the corner of my eye. A spaceship. Except, it looked more like a restraunt than a spaceship. Everyone else, was ignoring the spaceship. Just running around it, pretending it wasn't there.
Slartbartfast came out of the ship, and said "Arthur Dent, we have been waiting 11 years for you to get the game. We need your help. The Restruant at the End of the Universe forgot to patch their time servers with the DST patch. As it turned out, one of the End of the Universe time-shifts occured during the DST switchover. Thus, The Restruant is exactly one hour in the future, after The End. With The Restruant after the End, then entire space-time continuim of the universe is unraveling. Our only hope is if you can find the patch, get to the Restruant, and apply it."
You get into the ship and take off, the powerful Bistromathics drive getting you to Magrathea in seconds. You attempt to download the patch from the Sub-Etha-Net using your Guides newfangled "Sub-Etha-Net Explorer", but all it tells you is
This page cannot be displayed
There is an icon which looks like a paperclip on a piece of paper. It is winking at you...
I'll see you and raise you. My posts are encrypted with 23 levels of ROT-T, after which you have to deal with the NME. If you can somehow get past the NME and to my final level, I'll use your own routines to decyrpt your text.
And I run on Linux too!
I have found it quite easy to clobber an in-use file in Windows (the hard way). Just do it remotely using a NT share. Try:
copy somefile.dll \\remote_server\c$\windows\system32
Of course, this was NT 4.0. It might be fixed now.
Its a tie.
I have years of experience dealing with both Windows and Linux. They can both be a PITA under certain circumstances.
Windows wins in the games department. My arcade machine (air gapped from the internet) runs XP.
Linux wins in the security department. It is too easy for your Windows machine to be 0wned if you click on the wrong website. Part of this is IEs integration with the OS, as well as the general Win32 architecture itself. Linux's advantage here comes from its Unix heritage, where it is designed to run untrusted code by end-users.
Everything else is a wash. Once something doesn't work right, it is a royal PITA to fix it in either one.
Last fall, I bought an el-cheapo Kodak camera from Best Buy. After filling up the internal memory with pictures, I plugged it into the USB port on a Windows computer, expecting to see it in explorer. No dice. Windows did not recognize the USB device. After spending about 1/2 hour installing 100mb of crap from the Kodak CD, I finally was able to see my pictures on the Windows computer but it still was a major PITA.
Fustrated with the Windows experience, I plugged the camera into a PC running SUSE 10.0. As soon as I plugged it in, a dialog box came up: "A camera was detected. Would you like to import your photos into F-Spot?"
Now I manage my entire photo library using F-spot. The really cool thing is, I can ACTUALLY find my photos. I have never been able to do that before.
Even in Windows, the command line has a power the GUI doesn't. The Windows cmd is actually quite powerful. Its just that the syntax (and lack of documentation) would scare a Unix geek. There are all sorts of useful things (like deleting a service) you can do easily from a Windows command prompt that you can't do from the gui.
In Windows, the man pages are accessed through HELP. You can just type HELP to get a list of commands. The two most useful commands for batch files in Windows are FOR and SET.
I once had a consulting job setting up disaster recovery for Oracle failsafe and SQL server. It was a 2 week job and involved scripts for configuring the clusters, managing the EMC software, the Oracle failsafe, SQL server, and everything else. The project was a total success, the client was happy, and I produced exactly 3 windows .BAT files to implement the solution.
Supporting end users is always easier with a command prompt. I can simply email them the commands I want them to run and have them email me the output back. I may have to tell them how to start a command prompt and copy/paste into it, but that is still easier than talking them through a complex gui. Of course, I'll take a BASHJ script anytime over a Windows one.
Have you ever had an option that you wanted in a gui greyed out, and you have no clue why it is greyed out? Totally miserable, especially if you have to support a user.
I mean, picking on Microsoft for stuff like this is like adding a Windows computer to your botnet. Kind of fun, but gets boring after awhile.
On the other hand, Oracle can write crappy code with the best of them. I'll see you and raise you again.
I run a large website that was originally set up for a corporate intranet that was standardized on IE. When designing the architecture of the site, I never used any Activex or any other MSFT technologies. I pretty much used stadard HTML with CSS and a little Javascript.
A few years ago, we started opening our site to selected customers on the Internet. On of the first ones had standardized on Netscape 4.7 (They would not upgrade to IE or a later verson of Netscape for security reasons). Needless to say, all of my CSS looked like shit. It took me about 2 hours to change the CSS back to font tags where they looked like shit and leave everything else alone. The fonts still look a little different for my Netscape 4.7 users, but the website is quite usable.
I figure, if my site runs on IE5 and Netscape 4.7, it will probably run on all the rest.
Several years ago, before I switched over to Linux, I installed Mozilla 1.0 (before Firefox) for the built-in popup blocker. Then the security vulnerabilities started showing up in IE. I was banking with Suntrust at the time, and when I tried to use online banking, it required IE. I complained to them about the security problems using IE, and that I wouldn't use IE for online banking. I eventually took my business elsewhere (for this and a number of other reasons). Now I don't do any E-commerce on any Windows computer, nor do I use IE for any Internet browsing, for security reasons.
You forgot the Jokers line from the first Batman movie. "How do I get this wonderful WGA product? Don't worry... you already have it! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! ..."
I still use 2000 at work, though I think we will be required to upgrade to XP in about a year. At home I switched to Linux a long time ago. I may buy another computer someday with Windows on it so I can play an important game. Then again, maybe I'll just get a Wii.
I just went on their website. Just select "small business" instead of "home", and you can select XP as an option. Too bad you can't get Linux yet.
How true, even for 74 Foxtrot (Computer Programmer/Analyst). In basic, my contraband Walkman held up quite well (Sony actually made good products then). My POS M-16 didn't. The frickin lower receiver broke, and since it was all one piece, they had to get me an entirely new weapon. At least the new one didn't jam all the time. In AIT (computer school), I bitched all the time about having to program in COBOL and JCL. At my first duty assignment, I bitched about having to use an Apple II instead of a C-64, which could render the radar images a lot better, and so on throughout my time of service. Now, as a civilian, I bitch about having to use Windows. Some things never change.
I did something like this at work, which I got from Scott Adams "The Joy of Work". I wrote a little program which installed as a service and randomly beeped (print ascii 7) every 20 minutes. However, my evil co-worker accomplice changed the requirements and had it set to every 2 minutes. Thus, the prank only lasted about a day instead of the week of chinese water torture I had intended.
I also have a newer, nastier program, which I have never deployed. This one also runs as a service and wakes up every five minutes. When it wakes up, it selects a random number from 1 to 2000, and displays a dialog box with the NT error message corresponding to the random number. Most of the numbers don't have an error message, so it just goes back to sleep. There is nothing like getting a dialog box with a red X, a title of "Windows", and a message like "The control blocks have been destroyed." If you ever deploy something like this, make sure all of your system admins are in on it.
That dome probably would be easier to install kitchen cabinets in thant the two houses I did it in. The first one, the wall was so out of plumb that even though the countertop had a cut away section of about 1 inch, I maxed that out and still had about an inch gap on both sides (the wall bowed in, think reverse dome). The other one, the wall was about at an 80 degree angle, instead of the usual 90 degrees. I had to shim the cabinets like crazy and they were still so crooked you could see it easily with the naked eye. And don't get me started about installing the baseboards....
At least with a dome, they pretty much have to do it right otherwise it falls apart.
Has anyone seen the Simpsons episode where Lisa steals the teachers "answer books"? Absolute classic. Most of my teachers were like that.