using ybin/yaboot you can easily multi MacOS 8.x, MacOS 9.x, MacOS X and Linux. Even multiple installs of each OS.
Check out http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ybin/ for more info.
i have to agree. it's a little annoying they don't offer the iso along with the release. it was months before 2.0 was available to download after it was released.
new people going to the site after reading the press release are going to be either confused, frustrated, download the old buggy 2.0 release or just walk away unsatisfied. can't say that will help sales would it?
i (unfortunately) purchased 2.0 which was horrible, once i finally got it to install. 2.1 should be mailed out to 2.0 customers free.
i will agree with other posters though, linux on ppc is a great way to recycle older macs. linux runs pretty snappy and turns older machines into excellent file/print servers.
i doubt "every" online merchant will require passport, and for those that take it i'm sure they will accept alternatives. could you really see a merchant accepting only one form of payment? if they're that silly i'll be smart enough to take my business elsewhere.
excuse me, but how does this apply to those of us who don't use windows? are we going to be pushed off of the 'net? that will never happen.. ok. M$ might control the sheep but the smarter people will think for themselves and not sign up for passport..
it's called age discrimination and it's more and more frequent. in some states it is illegal and a valid ground for a lawsuit when you're looked over for things like promotions and such. though you would have to prove your case.
don't think being older is necessarily better. many companies hire younger employees over older ones because they'll work cheaper, require less benefits, work longer hours (if they don't have a family).
If your upper management is THAT incompetient then they don't deserve your loyality. In the end it should be survival of the fittest. If you're smart you'll know when to get off the sinking ship before you go down with it.
I worked for a.com that was failing majorly, morale was low, there was MAJOR fighting in top management about direction and our feeble product couldn't sell. The smart people recgonized things weren't going to get better and we're all happy at new positions now. The people that stuck around now are putting up with round after round of layoffs and have finally begun to look for new positions.
How can you believe in your company when your company doesn't believe in you?
And I have to say LinuxPPC w/ MOL is a far better combination than OSX w/ "Classic". Linux is a far more stable OS to boot, has more development behind it and is "free" (as in beer) to boot. Aqua sure is pretty, but I can do more to configure Enlightenment than I can Aqua (which, by the way, is a HORRIBLE GUI).
I sure hope they don't stop development of LinuxPPC, what will I run on my Apple hardware after Apple goes under???
hey. don't blame the users of macs for the stupid actions of apple (and steve jobs). i could care less if anyone's theme looks like my mac. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that...
this is for real? ms has been known to bullshit a lot. with things looking so bad for them with the trial, maybe they're trying to get a bit of public sympathy?
how can they be an ultra-powerful monopoly if they are hacked by a bunch of script kiddies? hahahahahaha
the type of visa says it all. they knew what they were signing up for when they got here. why should we feel sorry for them now? personally i think the visa should be 6 months, not 6 years. little long to be "temporary"
check out macfixit.. you'll see a long list of complains with the cubes.. sleep problems, shutdown problems, dvd problems, many units arriving DOA. not to mention the incompatability with monitors not having Apple's new ADC connector. I wouldn't buy one with your paycheck. If I want an all-in-one unit I'll buy an iMac. If I want a real g4 I'll buy a real g4 with expandability and options.
guess you never tried aqua. you should have. inconsistencies in the interface, the dock, long list of complaints on this one too. the beta (which i'm running right now) isn't much better.
if i wanted a next, i would have bought a next. obviously A LOT of people didn't want a next. else we'd all have them on our desktops.
yes jobs makes "sexy" looking machines.. but beauty is only skin deep. cube looks great, and tons of problems. aqua looked "lickable" but worked horrible.
typical apple.. create new technologies, gamesprockets, inputsprockets, etc.. then kill them off.. i think some of inputsprockets will make it into OSX but a lot of the gamesprockets technologies (libraries) they created for developers to use will not be making it into osx. developers are going to have to roll-their-own again.
jobs has a tendency to waver between saying Macs are game machines and "who needs games?"
apple has a tendency to create a lot of different techonologies, hype them up as a great thing, and then let them die off.. powertalk, plaintalk, truetype, QuickDraw GX, vtwin, etc..
i'm a die-hard apple fan, or at least i was. i go back to a 128 in 1984 and a//e in 1980. but i'll say this, apple sure is alienating their fans these days. jobs may have been good for pulling apple out of a rut, but he doesn't seem to have the ability to manage things as they flow along.
since he's taken over he's managed to:
kill the clones
kill the newton
bring back the closed, all-in-one, non-upgradable mac (iMac and Cube)
throw NeXTOS on top of new hardware (sorry OSX is NeXT in mac's clothing)
threaten to sue a few dozen web sites
just about squash publication of a book that doesn't portray him as a god
act like a spoiled brat when ATI let the cat out of the bag a little early (like we didn't know anyway?)
Sell out Apple to Microsoft.
Piss off game developers.
Piss off 3rd parties with constant color switches.
Failed to give the users/consumers many of the things they have asked for, 6 slot systems, voice recgonition, multi-button mice, etc.
Turn Apple's once great, free support into clueless, expensive, too-long-on-hold waste of time (example: call up with a broken mouse and they insist you reinstall the OS. hello??? yes, this happened to me. their tech support are clueless and only know how to read a script)
sue their own (ex)employees
go from a happy-friendly image to one of a closed, grey corporate environment.. kinda like what they didn't want in their 1984 ad. hmm.. Is that jobs we now see on the big screen?
What's up with this? I think someone needs to take Jobs over their knee and spank him a few times. Doesn't he know how to play nice with everyone else? Apple's market share sucks and by pissing off the only fans and users they have it's going to drop even more.
i got rid of my cell phone 3 years ago and have lived comfortably without it. every once in a while i go looking at getting a new phone and don't. why? the rates and service contracts.
i read often enough about how soon we'll all simply use cell phones and wired lines will be a thing of the past but until i can get unlimited local calling for $20 like i do on my wired line i'll stay happily land-bound.
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Ok. Sorry. I should have said "mature" macs vs. "elderly" macs..?
For "elderly" Macs that won't run LinuxPPC you might want to try MkLinux www.mklinux.org.
using ybin/yaboot you can easily multi MacOS 8.x, MacOS 9.x, MacOS X and Linux. Even multiple installs of each OS. Check out http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ybin/ for more info.
i have to agree. it's a little annoying they don't offer the iso along with the release. it was months before 2.0 was available to download after it was released.
new people going to the site after reading the press release are going to be either confused, frustrated, download the old buggy 2.0 release or just walk away unsatisfied. can't say that will help sales would it?
i (unfortunately) purchased 2.0 which was horrible, once i finally got it to install. 2.1 should be mailed out to 2.0 customers free.
i will agree with other posters though, linux on ppc is a great way to recycle older macs. linux runs pretty snappy and turns older machines into excellent file/print servers.
OLD MACS NEVER DIE, THEY JUST RUN LINUXPPC!!!
i doubt "every" online merchant will require passport, and for those that take it i'm sure they will accept alternatives. could you really see a merchant accepting only one form of payment? if they're that silly i'll be smart enough to take my business elsewhere.
excuse me, but how does this apply to those of us who don't use windows? are we going to be pushed off of the 'net? that will never happen.. ok. M$ might control the sheep but the smarter people will think for themselves and not sign up for passport..
does anyone out there expect micro$oft to have one positive word about opensource/linux/gpl/eff?
i bought a window-less pc, it's called a macintosh.. remember people, pc stands for personal computer (unless you're talking politically correct ;-)
good luck to all of them. they should put up a public-support petition. i'd sign it.
it's called age discrimination and it's more and more frequent. in some states it is illegal and a valid ground for a lawsuit when you're looked over for things like promotions and such. though you would have to prove your case.
don't think being older is necessarily better. many companies hire younger employees over older ones because they'll work cheaper, require less benefits, work longer hours (if they don't have a family).
BAIL.
.com that was failing majorly, morale was low, there was MAJOR fighting in top management about direction and our feeble product couldn't sell. The smart people recgonized things weren't going to get better and we're all happy at new positions now. The people that stuck around now are putting up with round after round of layoffs and have finally begun to look for new positions.
If your upper management is THAT incompetient then they don't deserve your loyality. In the end it should be survival of the fittest. If you're smart you'll know when to get off the sinking ship before you go down with it.
I worked for a
How can you believe in your company when your company doesn't believe in you?
And I have to say LinuxPPC w/ MOL is a far better combination than OSX w/ "Classic". Linux is a far more stable OS to boot, has more development behind it and is "free" (as in beer) to boot. Aqua sure is pretty, but I can do more to configure Enlightenment than I can Aqua (which, by the way, is a HORRIBLE GUI).
I sure hope they don't stop development of LinuxPPC, what will I run on my Apple hardware after Apple goes under???
No mention of Apple PowerBooks on that site. LinuxPPC runs fantastic on many of them!
hey. don't blame the users of macs for the stupid actions of apple (and steve jobs). i could care less if anyone's theme looks like my mac. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that...
so where is the news about sony?
this is for real? ms has been known to bullshit a lot. with things looking so bad for them with the trial, maybe they're trying to get a bit of public sympathy?
how can they be an ultra-powerful monopoly if they are hacked by a bunch of script kiddies? hahahahahaha
i got mine.. i ordered in may and paid $300.. would i pay $1000? hell no.. would i sell mine right now for $1000.. sure. email me your offers!
looks like they took an ugly stick to the ibook and that's what they came out with..
carnivore, the program that won't go away.
the type of visa says it all. they knew what they were signing up for when they got here. why should we feel sorry for them now? personally i think the visa should be 6 months, not 6 years. little long to be "temporary"
check out macfixit.. you'll see a long list of complains with the cubes.. sleep problems, shutdown problems, dvd problems, many units arriving DOA. not to mention the incompatability with monitors not having Apple's new ADC connector. I wouldn't buy one with your paycheck. If I want an all-in-one unit I'll buy an iMac. If I want a real g4 I'll buy a real g4 with expandability and options.
guess you never tried aqua. you should have. inconsistencies in the interface, the dock, long list of complaints on this one too. the beta (which i'm running right now) isn't much better.
if i wanted a next, i would have bought a next. obviously A LOT of people didn't want a next. else we'd all have them on our desktops.
yes jobs makes "sexy" looking machines.. but beauty is only skin deep. cube looks great, and tons of problems. aqua looked "lickable" but worked horrible.
typical apple.. create new technologies, gamesprockets, inputsprockets, etc.. then kill them off.. i think some of inputsprockets will make it into OSX but a lot of the gamesprockets technologies (libraries) they created for developers to use will not be making it into osx. developers are going to have to roll-their-own again.
jobs has a tendency to waver between saying Macs are game machines and "who needs games?"
apple has a tendency to create a lot of different techonologies, hype them up as a great thing, and then let them die off.. powertalk, plaintalk, truetype, QuickDraw GX, vtwin, etc..
i'm a die-hard apple fan, or at least i was. i go back to a 128 in 1984 and a //e in 1980. but i'll say this, apple sure is alienating their fans these days. jobs may have been good for pulling apple out of a rut, but he doesn't seem to have the ability to manage things as they flow along.
since he's taken over he's managed to:
kill the clones
kill the newton
bring back the closed, all-in-one, non-upgradable mac (iMac and Cube)
throw NeXTOS on top of new hardware (sorry OSX is NeXT in mac's clothing)
threaten to sue a few dozen web sites
just about squash publication of a book that doesn't portray him as a god
act like a spoiled brat when ATI let the cat out of the bag a little early (like we didn't know anyway?)
Sell out Apple to Microsoft.
Piss off game developers.
Piss off 3rd parties with constant color switches.
Failed to give the users/consumers many of the things they have asked for, 6 slot systems, voice recgonition, multi-button mice, etc.
Turn Apple's once great, free support into clueless, expensive, too-long-on-hold waste of time (example: call up with a broken mouse and they insist you reinstall the OS. hello??? yes, this happened to me. their tech support are clueless and only know how to read a script)
sue their own (ex)employees
go from a happy-friendly image to one of a closed, grey corporate environment.. kinda like what they didn't want in their 1984 ad. hmm.. Is that jobs we now see on the big screen?
What's up with this? I think someone needs to take Jobs over their knee and spank him a few times. Doesn't he know how to play nice with everyone else? Apple's market share sucks and by pissing off the only fans and users they have it's going to drop even more.
i got rid of my cell phone 3 years ago and have lived comfortably without it. every once in a while i go looking at getting a new phone and don't. why? the rates and service contracts.
i read often enough about how soon we'll all simply use cell phones and wired lines will be a thing of the past but until i can get unlimited local calling for $20 like i do on my wired line i'll stay happily land-bound.