In my company, I lost the count of engineers who worked 10/12 hour a day without reward, and left in disgust, or worse, went to the burn out. <troll>Hey, US readers, I'm French and I'm talking about a French company ! Don't believe everything they tell you ! Some French really work hard, and most French are more productive working less than their US counterparts !</troll>
But at higher levels, N+3/4/5..., it seems that the main concern is not the work done but the next seat they will take. Among those people, some are really working hard^Wa lot^W^Wlong hours. But the higher you go, the less effective work you'll notice. And the less burn out too.
Sorry, I stopped there, at "Even with the move toward more agile development and DevOps". What's the link, supposed positive here, between the two ? Both "old" and "new" method won't never mean better software than the people using them.
Bad engineers using old method (V cycle ? Tons of documents ?) or new methods (you said agile, as in "get as many things done as possible, as quickly as possible, using shiny web app like Trello or Kanban-something" ?) won't make secure software. May be with good engineers, you can achieve good results, whatever the method is.
More or less related : ISO9001 doesn't mean that the certified company makes good products, it means that it produces always the same quality, good or bad.
This may sound a bit like a troll, but I'd like to add that, since young engineers favor more agile methods, and considering the lack of experience, combined to the messy sensations I sense in agile methods, I tend to think that agile methods would produce less secure software...
Just an example of how this is wrong, taken in one of the most hype domain now days : IoT. Show me a JVM running on something like an STM32F0, or their low power counterparts.
By the way, I'm looking forward to the days when C/C++ programmers will be rare... And expensive ! Like Cobol programmers that maintain very old systems, because attempts to replace these systems with Java based solutions are failing...
Android phones are helping M$ to make tons of cash. May be the response from Google is as simple as : remove everything that helps M$. Best method : build a new OS.
This would imply that the Linux kernel is what fall under most of M$ patents. So, if all this is correct, will M$ turn against other entities than phone and tablets manufacturers, other use of the Linux kernel, to keep the cash flowing ?
I can understand that systemd brings some improvements. In specific contexts. For example, when your profession is sysadmin, when you have more than, let's say 4 or 5 servers to administrate, OK, may be systemd brings improvements over scripts. Real sysadmins are responsible of dozens, hundreds of servers.
What about other people like me ? I'm in computer programming since 1982, very well, but I'm no sysadmin. A very kind friend told me once that, as a programmer, I'm a good sysadmin (I'm not sure I translated this properly from French), but I'm no sysadmin; first, I'm a programmer. I mean that it's OK for me to have a Debian FW+many services at home, or to have one or two "shadow servers" at work to help me do my programmer job. It's OK for me to install and configure services on a recent Debian, with systemd. As long as it's working. Magically.
What's not OK : - few years ago, when Debian forced the change : it broke my system after an apt-get dist-upgrade. Before that, when a Debian had boot problems, I could handle them as long as I could dig in the scripts and trace the sequence. Suddenly, Debian replaced those scripts by systemd. At the first reboot, systemd was not pleased with something. The boot was interrupted with some cryptic error message, asking my to look at some logs, or run some new commands. What ? No ! No time, Internet connection broken, go to hell ! OK, I preferred to re-install a Debian from scratch, it was faster. - this kind of problem still happens from time to time. Today, I'm afraid I still can not handle every situation. Most often : when a drive is missing, what will systemd do : a) timeout and continue ? b) timeout, put me in a shell that I can quit and continue ? c) timeout, put me in a shell, leaving me helpless because, with or without knowing what's wrong, I cannot (try to) correct the problem.
You could answer : RTFM. Yes, but I have better things to do. I cannot read every man page of the world. And systemd manual is not small, and it needs practice. Reading alone is not enough.
So give me back the choice, give me back my scripts and let systemd to those who have time, or to those which profession it is to learn that monster !
And now that systemd has become a synonymous for Godwin point, let me ask : I've been told that systemd takes care of the network config by itself ? Or that it makes binary logs ? Seriously ? It cannot be, this is not the UN*X spirit, is it ?
OpenElec is a PITA to upgrade. OSMC is based on Debian, thus performs upgrades through apt-*. The interface takes care of checking for available upgrade. I recently got a massive one that brought Kodi 17.x. IR configuration is easier, although still not for the faint of heart. And if you need something more from your box, just login and apt-get install the packages.
M$ is making tons of cash from Android device manufacturers, with the help of a secret set of patents. May be Google is trying to bring together a set as big as M$ one ?
Any whistleblower around to finally show us what M$ patents are ?
We should follow the masses of people ? This can lead very far. To keep the discussion around movies, let me tell you two little stories :
1) like millions of people, I tried to see Titanic soon after its release. I ended watching another movie because it was crowded as hell. It was supposed to be a comedy, a fun thing. It was not, it is my worst movie memory. But a lot of people, if not everybody else, was laughing. I was frightened. How the hell could they laugh at that ? So you're telling that I should have laugh because they did ? No ! Frak you !
2) the last movie I saw in a theater is Dark Knight Rises. It was 3 or 4 month after the release. There were less than 20 or 30 people then. One guy answered his phone 3 times ! What the frak ? We're here to see a movie ? Or was he there to show that he can spend 10 € NOT to watch the movie ?
Including Samsung. I've read that the S8 already includes M$ apps (Word, Excel...), not speaking of this Customized Edition. M$ apps on an Android phone ! Makes no sense, except when you know that M$ is making tons of cash using patents and secret deals with phones manufacturers.
Any whistle-blower to show us these stupid patents ?
Not yet, but close to it. Of course, many "old" people still use piles of cash. But you can pay nearly anything with your smartphone now. And this change happened in 1 or 2 years (at least from my point of view, which is a trip in 2015/06 and 2017/02).
"socialist shithole" ? Seriously ? Did you had a look at what happened the last 5 years ? The socialist president and governments have done more for companies, and less for people than the previous, right wing one. Socialist does not mean anything anymore. It's just a label politics chose when they get out of the ENA (National School for Administration : it's where most politics come from, they never had a real job). Once in charge, they only do things to please their friends and sponsors
- the law says 35h/week, but it is not enforced everywhere, far from that. Almost all companies have a negotiated agreement. The law say that if you work 35h/w, you get nothing, and if you work 39h/w, you get about 22 days of additional free time. The agreement usually says you get 10 to 15 days, period. So I can work 35h/w and get 15 days ? Yes, may be. But most people work 39h/w, and often more. So, who is the winner ? The company of course. The law and its application are different.
- there are many countries which have work hours less than the French 35h/week. what not talking about these ones ?
- what about productivity ? Many studies show that French are much more productive than many other countries.
Cliché ?
Alright, my turn : stop bashing France, you Americans who will kill themselves working like crazy 50, 60, 70h/w or more. Your productivity is less than French.
You're right, it's part of the process and I shouldn't have neglected it. But I think it's not the main reason for the delay. Just keep in mind that there is more than that, especially in the case of a car (that I don't know everything about), but also in a BT speaker (which I know much more because it's part of my job).
There are many potential causes for the delay. And they can add a second here, few ms there. I guess that : - there is the button on your wheel that goes through the car wiring and base embedded system : can (and CAN !) take time. - the button event is communicated to the infotainment system : should be fast, but who knows ? - the infotainment system sends an AVRCP (play, stop, pause, next/previous track) command through its Bluetooth module : some of these can also take time. I had the case where play was immediate, but pause (same play/pause command in fact) took 3 seconds. By the way, next/previous may be used in two way : short press (for track change) or long press (for fast forward/backward). May be your car system waits a bit to know of its a short or a long press. - your phone receives the command and propagates it to the music player : depending on the music player, there may be some fading delay. Check your player settings !
By the way, may I ask how this topic is related to the initial post (cURL) ? Oh, yes, the mail example... A bit light may be...
I'm already using Qt and am happy to stay away from the painful VS. - under Windows, Qt uses gcc/MinGW (or VS compiler if you wish) - under Mac OS X, Qt uses XCode compiler - under Linux, Qt uses native and easily installed gcc
At the time of the version 3, I also had the opportunity to work with the embedded version (user interface in trains, running on PPC computers).
So there is Qt, and there are many other solutions described in the other comments. M$, what are you doing here, then ?
By the way, since Skype is made using Qt : M$, please, explain why there are so many differences between versions, especially with the Linux one ? Need some lessons in portability ?
To add details to your answer : first point, look at your source : is it FLAC or MP3 (or any equivalent). If the source is bad, it cannot be better at the other end.
AFAIK, Bluetooth uses an A2DP pipe and this pipe allows the transmission of data using 4 codecs : - SBC : the first historically, the worst in quality - AAC - MP3 - aptX
SBC, AAC and MP3 are lossy codecs. I never saw a product that accept AAC or MP3. There must be a license to pay to use MP3; may be also for AAC. aptX is both lossy and lossless. And most source devices (smartphones, computers...) are aptX ready.
So, the technology already here to allow a much better quality than what we know (as long as one can force the use of the lossless variant of aptX, which is... well, you know... Obfuscated to say the least).
Then what ? Then CSR : the dominating Bluetooth chips manufacturer. More than 70% of the chips last time I heard. CSR has patents on aptX. And patents are meant to make money (yes; were you told otherwise ?).
So, the sink devices (BT speakers, car audio systems,...) are aptX ready only if the manufacturer paid CSR. I'm not sure, may be $1 per product. That's a lot compared to the rest of the BOM. A BT speaker you pay $150 cost less than half when leaving the Chinese factory.
And guess what : manufacturers like profit, so they don't pay CSR for aptX and stick to SBC. The hardware is always ready, the firmware may contain the aptX codec, but if the license key, linked to the BT MAC address of the chip, is not present in the firmware, aptX won't be negotiated as an available codec with the source device. Only SBC will be used, even if your source device can do aptX.
By the way, if you like your music, listen to it on real speakers in your living room !
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In my opinion, it depends at which level you are.
In my company, I lost the count of engineers who worked 10/12 hour a day without reward, and left in disgust, or worse, went to the burn out.
<troll>Hey, US readers, I'm French and I'm talking about a French company ! Don't believe everything they tell you ! Some French really work hard, and most French are more productive working less than their US counterparts !</troll>
But at higher levels, N+3/4/5..., it seems that the main concern is not the work done but the next seat they will take. Among those people, some are really working hard^Wa lot^W^Wlong hours. But the higher you go, the less effective work you'll notice. And the less burn out too.
Sorry, I stopped there, at "Even with the move toward more agile development and DevOps". What's the link, supposed positive here, between the two ?
Both "old" and "new" method won't never mean better software than the people using them.
Bad engineers using old method (V cycle ? Tons of documents ?) or new methods (you said agile, as in "get as many things done as possible, as quickly as possible, using shiny web app like Trello or Kanban-something" ?) won't make secure software.
May be with good engineers, you can achieve good results, whatever the method is.
More or less related : ISO9001 doesn't mean that the certified company makes good products, it means that it produces always the same quality, good or bad.
This may sound a bit like a troll, but I'd like to add that, since young engineers favor more agile methods, and considering the lack of experience, combined to the messy sensations I sense in agile methods, I tend to think that agile methods would produce less secure software ...
Just an example of how this is wrong, taken in one of the most hype domain now days : IoT.
Show me a JVM running on something like an STM32F0, or their low power counterparts.
By the way, I'm looking forward to the days when C/C++ programmers will be rare ... And expensive ! ...
Like Cobol programmers that maintain very old systems, because attempts to replace these systems with Java based solutions are failing
Could be fun to see a climate change denier be flooded at home !
Android phones are helping M$ to make tons of cash.
May be the response from Google is as simple as : remove everything that helps M$. Best method : build a new OS.
This would imply that the Linux kernel is what fall under most of M$ patents.
So, if all this is correct, will M$ turn against other entities than phone and tablets manufacturers, other use of the Linux kernel, to keep the cash flowing ?
Wasn't Open/Free/whatever software about choice ?
I can understand that systemd brings some improvements.
In specific contexts.
For example, when your profession is sysadmin, when you have more than, let's say 4 or 5 servers to administrate, OK, may be systemd brings improvements over scripts. Real sysadmins are responsible of dozens, hundreds of servers.
What about other people like me ? I'm in computer programming since 1982, very well, but I'm no sysadmin.
A very kind friend told me once that, as a programmer, I'm a good sysadmin (I'm not sure I translated this properly from French), but I'm no sysadmin; first, I'm a programmer.
I mean that it's OK for me to have a Debian FW+many services at home, or to have one or two "shadow servers" at work to help me do my programmer job.
It's OK for me to install and configure services on a recent Debian, with systemd. As long as it's working. Magically.
What's not OK :
- few years ago, when Debian forced the change : it broke my system after an apt-get dist-upgrade. Before that, when a Debian had boot problems, I could handle them as long as I could dig in the scripts and trace the sequence. Suddenly, Debian replaced those scripts by systemd. At the first reboot, systemd was not pleased with something. The boot was interrupted with some cryptic error message, asking my to look at some logs, or run some new commands. What ? No ! No time, Internet connection broken, go to hell ! OK, I preferred to re-install a Debian from scratch, it was faster.
- this kind of problem still happens from time to time. Today, I'm afraid I still can not handle every situation. Most often : when a drive is missing, what will systemd do : a) timeout and continue ? b) timeout, put me in a shell that I can quit and continue ? c) timeout, put me in a shell, leaving me helpless because, with or without knowing what's wrong, I cannot (try to) correct the problem.
You could answer : RTFM.
Yes, but I have better things to do. I cannot read every man page of the world. And systemd manual is not small, and it needs practice. Reading alone is not enough.
So give me back the choice, give me back my scripts and let systemd to those who have time, or to those which profession it is to learn that monster !
And now that systemd has become a synonymous for Godwin point, let me ask : I've been told that systemd takes care of the network config by itself ? Or that it makes binary logs ? Seriously ? It cannot be, this is not the UN*X spirit, is it ?
Best way to stop fake news & info, isn't it ?
OpenElec is a PITA to upgrade.
OSMC is based on Debian, thus performs upgrades through apt-*. The interface takes care of checking for available upgrade. I recently got a massive one that brought Kodi 17.x.
IR configuration is easier, although still not for the faint of heart.
And if you need something more from your box, just login and apt-get install the packages.
M$ is making tons of cash from Android device manufacturers, with the help of a secret set of patents.
May be Google is trying to bring together a set as big as M$ one ?
Any whistleblower around to finally show us what M$ patents are ?
I stopped reading at point 2.
We should follow the masses of people ? This can lead very far.
To keep the discussion around movies, let me tell you two little stories :
1) like millions of people, I tried to see Titanic soon after its release. I ended watching another movie because it was crowded as hell. It was supposed to be a comedy, a fun thing. It was not, it is my worst movie memory. But a lot of people, if not everybody else, was laughing. I was frightened. How the hell could they laugh at that ? So you're telling that I should have laugh because they did ? No ! Frak you !
2) the last movie I saw in a theater is Dark Knight Rises. It was 3 or 4 month after the release. There were less than 20 or 30 people then. One guy answered his phone 3 times ! What the frak ? We're here to see a movie ? Or was he there to show that he can spend 10 € NOT to watch the movie ?
I swore not to go to a theater any more.
^WPatents.
Including Samsung. ...), not speaking of this Customized Edition.
I've read that the S8 already includes M$ apps (Word, Excel
M$ apps on an Android phone !
Makes no sense, except when you know that M$ is making tons of cash using patents and secret deals with phones manufacturers.
Any whistle-blower to show us these stupid patents ?
Not yet, but close to it.
Of course, many "old" people still use piles of cash.
But you can pay nearly anything with your smartphone now. And this change happened in 1 or 2 years (at least from my point of view, which is a trip in 2015/06 and 2017/02).
We are DOOMed !
Sorry ... Could not resist ...
"socialist shithole" ? Seriously ?
Did you had a look at what happened the last 5 years ?
The socialist president and governments have done more for companies, and less for people than the previous, right wing one. Socialist does not mean anything anymore. It's just a label politics chose when they get out of the ENA (National School for Administration : it's where most politics come from, they never had a real job).
Once in charge, they only do things to please their friends and sponsors
please note that :
- the law says 35h/week, but it is not enforced everywhere, far from that. Almost all companies have a negotiated agreement. The law say that if you work 35h/w, you get nothing, and if you work 39h/w, you get about 22 days of additional free time. The agreement usually says you get 10 to 15 days, period.
So I can work 35h/w and get 15 days ? Yes, may be. But most people work 39h/w, and often more.
So, who is the winner ? The company of course. The law and its application are different.
- there are many countries which have work hours less than the French 35h/week. what not talking about these ones ?
- what about productivity ? Many studies show that French are much more productive than many other countries.
Cliché ?
Alright, my turn : stop bashing France, you Americans who will kill themselves working like crazy 50, 60, 70h/w or more. Your productivity is less than French.
Popcorn !
Can't wait to see the new episode !
You're right, it's part of the process and I shouldn't have neglected it. But I think it's not the main reason for the delay.
Just keep in mind that there is more than that, especially in the case of a car (that I don't know everything about), but also in a BT speaker (which I know much more because it's part of my job).
There are many potential causes for the delay. And they can add a second here, few ms there. I guess that :
- there is the button on your wheel that goes through the car wiring and base embedded system : can (and CAN !) take time.
- the button event is communicated to the infotainment system : should be fast, but who knows ?
- the infotainment system sends an AVRCP (play, stop, pause, next/previous track) command through its Bluetooth module : some of these can also take time. I had the case where play was immediate, but pause (same play/pause command in fact) took 3 seconds. By the way, next/previous may be used in two way : short press (for track change) or long press (for fast forward/backward). May be your car system waits a bit to know of its a short or a long press.
- your phone receives the command and propagates it to the music player : depending on the music player, there may be some fading delay. Check your player settings !
By the way, may I ask how this topic is related to the initial post (cURL) ? Oh, yes, the mail example ... A bit light may be ...
I'm already using Qt and am happy to stay away from the painful VS.
- under Windows, Qt uses gcc/MinGW (or VS compiler if you wish)
- under Mac OS X, Qt uses XCode compiler
- under Linux, Qt uses native and easily installed gcc
At the time of the version 3, I also had the opportunity to work with the embedded version (user interface in trains, running on PPC computers).
So there is Qt, and there are many other solutions described in the other comments. M$, what are you doing here, then ?
By the way, since Skype is made using Qt : M$, please, explain why there are so many differences between versions, especially with the Linux one ? Need some lessons in portability ?
I was hoping it could read text messages. It may, but ...
There are a lot of disappointed users on the play store :
https://play.google.com/store/...
It's rated 3.3 at the time of writing. I will wait a bit before trying myself !
... the Space Bubble ! ...
Sorry, it's Friday, I'm tired
And probably most of "advanced" countries.
Accountability ? Close to zero.
Look for Amesys and Qosmos here : https://reflets.info/ (French)
Could you point what's inaccurate please ? I'd like to improve my knowledge.
Or go away yourself ?
To add details to your answer : first point, look at your source : is it FLAC or MP3 (or any equivalent). If the source is bad, it cannot be better at the other end.
AFAIK, Bluetooth uses an A2DP pipe and this pipe allows the transmission of data using 4 codecs :
- SBC : the first historically, the worst in quality
- AAC
- MP3
- aptX
SBC, AAC and MP3 are lossy codecs. I never saw a product that accept AAC or MP3. There must be a license to pay to use MP3; may be also for AAC. ...) are aptX ready.
aptX is both lossy and lossless. And most source devices (smartphones, computers
So, the technology already here to allow a much better quality than what we know (as long as one can force the use of the lossless variant of aptX, which is ... well, you know ... Obfuscated to say the least).
Then what ?
Then CSR : the dominating Bluetooth chips manufacturer. More than 70% of the chips last time I heard.
CSR has patents on aptX.
And patents are meant to make money (yes; were you told otherwise ?).
So, the sink devices (BT speakers, car audio systems, ...) are aptX ready only if the manufacturer paid CSR. I'm not sure, may be $1 per product. That's a lot compared to the rest of the BOM. A BT speaker you pay $150 cost less than half when leaving the Chinese factory.
And guess what : manufacturers like profit, so they don't pay CSR for aptX and stick to SBC.
The hardware is always ready, the firmware may contain the aptX codec, but if the license key, linked to the BT MAC address of the chip, is not present in the firmware, aptX won't be negotiated as an available codec with the source device. Only SBC will be used, even if your source device can do aptX.
By the way, if you like your music, listen to it on real speakers in your living room !