There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.;-) (hehe) I don't mean to insinuate that you're an idiot, but that little quote is just too funny.
Anyway, it wouldn't really have any effect on the cooling at all, unless you were taking it outside in sunlight. The color of an object affects its temperature only because of the frequencies of light that it reflects vs those that it absorbs. White objects reflect a lot of light, but black ones absorb it as heat.
He stated that the airplanes could have not brought them down seeing that buildings of a lesser, equal, or greater size get the same sort of impact daily with the force of winds.
Well, this may be true, but when you consider that the airplanes *did* down the two buildings, one must realise that there is something flawed about that statement. I would accept that most skyscrapers are pummeled with the strength of an airplane crash daily, except that the force is spread across the entire structure, or at least one entire face, of the building. Consider what it might feel like if you were walking down the street and suddenly the entire energy of the ~50mph wind gusts that you normally can easily withstand were channeled at a 1cm^2 section of your chest, or even your skull. Wouldn't that at least completely knock the wind out of you? I haven't the time to properly do the math myself right now, but it may work out that such an energy release over such a small space would be enough force to pierce skin and possibly break bones.
And that is what made the difference, aside from the fire and explosions that are discussed elsewhere in the thread.
I have *one* machine holding up a table - I wish I had a picture of the actual table, but the machine is one of these beasties. The problem is that there's an 8-node beowulf (4xdual PII/333, + 2gbit myrinet) on top of the table, along with an Indigo2, 2 21" SGI monitors and a 15" Compaq p.o.s. for the KVM switch, and the table was designed to hold... say... a plate of deli meats, a salad bar, and some napkins. Maybe.
So, long story short - some genius snaps off one corner of the table by standing on it. The rest of the table bows downward a little bit, resting itself on top of the SGI 4d/310 beast. Whee, computer furniture!
AOL will stun the world by releasing a beta AOL client for Linux...
Yeah, sure. And Tux the Penguin will be replaced by Joe the Wannabe Journalist.
Surprise, it's already happened. I have *seen* an AOL client running on Linux, on *my* system. It existed at least a year ago, though it's not been released publicly. I'd love to still have it, but it's one of the things I lost in a disk crash a few months back.
Come to think about it, there may have even been a slashdot story about it - I'll see if I can dig it up.
3. (You need a big room for this) "Unless you downsize it". Oh sure, if you can also "downsize" your users. You have to build something that you can get inside of. There's a limit to downsizing - at the limit is your body!
Really, it doesn't have to take up *that* much space. I've worked in the CAVE before, and while it's somewhat large, there's no reason it couldn't be made smaller these days, given that three-gun CRT projectors are outmoded, and with a single gun projector you could use much smaller mirrors. Make the walls 6' high, and you'd need a room maybe 15' by 15', perhaps 20' by 20' to get the job done. And the ceiling needs to be maybe 8' tall, given some planning. (the CAVE system doesn't have a ceiling surface, but it has a floor - there's a projector pointed straight down via a mirror).
Granted, the 12 CPU Onyx2 (named Cassatt) takes up some room... but that is physically located in a different room in the Beckmann setup, and video is piped in. So basically you need:
4 LCD projectors, at a minimum of $1200 or so each for cheesy ones.
3 rear projection surfaces - since we're using cheap projectors, you may as well use white bedsheets attached to a homebuilt wooden frame
3 or 4 small-ish mirrors, unless you've got room to put the projectors all around the area.
(the biggie) Lots of CPU, and software.
Thankfully, the software mentioned in the article is freely available, so that takes some cost out of the problem. Now you just need a minimum of 4 graphics pipes, say $200/each GeForce2 or whatever's available, and machines to put them in. Perhaps with some nice fast interconnects - gigabit ethernet will do in a pinch, there isn't such a need for things like Myrinet anymore, although Myrinet is doing some truly wicked things these days (2+2 gigabit full-duplex networking!)
That really-small, really-cool Sony Vaio device comes to mind... or even an Apple iBook....
I've got one of those really-small really-cool Sony Vaio devices of which you speak (an sr27k which I got free after Sony borked my previous sr7k in the shop), and I must say I *really* like the thing. I've taken it to a bunch of classes, and my notes are a lot better because of it. I type a whole lot faster and more accurately than I can write, as I'm sure a lot of other people do - the keyboard on this thing is pretty conducive to fast typing, too.
As for equation entry, I realised after much puzzling that doing all that in Mathematica is the best way to do it. It took me a while to get good at it, but after I figured out all the keyboard shortcuts it got pretty easy. The real bonus is that I can actually decipher what I took down when I look at it an hour later.
On a side note, I'm planning on trading this laptop in on an iBook soon. This one is fantastic, but it's shiny-newness has worn off for me for some reason, and that's mostly what I'm interested in.:-)
Because of its limitations, I got a Xircom Rex MiniPDA (basically a PCMCIA card with a touch-screen that does addresses, notes, calendar, and third-party apps). In the end, I threw out the Casio and got an analog watch. The Rex does everything I'd ever need a PDA to do, and it's tiny. This sounds like a product plug - must stop now.
I've got what seems to be the perfect (for me) solution - a device that is functionally identical to a Rex, only it attaches to the back of my Startac phone. It's called a Snapon, Motorola marketed them for a while. They are end-of-lining the things these days for whatever reason, which means they can be had for a song. I got one for $40, and they went for $300 or so at first.
Anyhow, it's fantastic - keeps a bajillion phone numbers, my calendar, etc etc, just like any competent PDA should. And, it is one with my phone. Fits in the holster right on back of the Startac on my belt. And it dials the phone for me, which is a real miracle. I wish I knew of a source to tell you to get more of these - it's really great.
One of the things I'd personally like to see is some kind of overlaid filesystem so each image by default gets/bin/lib etc. from a generic set but users can modify them if they need to - this would allow a sysadmin to keep the default system current while not preventing 'owners' of an individual image from being able to change things if they need to....I vaguely remember something like this for CDs - anyone got the details? Time for a bit of experimentation;-)
The HURD has support for such an overlaid filesystem. It's flexible to the point where you could (I believe) mount a CD as a read-only device, and then write changes to the disc, storing your changes elsewhere. I'm pretty fuzzy on exactly how it works, but I've had it explained to me by a couple of HURD hackers and it sounds very neat.
Yeah, that kinda sucks. They do say in the article, however, that all-day battery life should be available in a year or so.
Here's what I'm wondering, though. Why does my wristwatch have to be so damn smart? This thing has bluetooth. In theory, so should my visor/palm/newton/pocketpc/agenda/whatever. Right? Why, then, can't my wristwatch just act as a wireless display/input device (using that nifty Bluetooth piconet!) for a slightly larger, more intelligent device that I keep in my pocket/purse/backpack/etc, which can have *much* longer battery life?
I think that would be cool, and I think they could squeeze a bit more battery life out of the watch this way - it wouldn't need any CPU or RAM to speak of, just enough to talk Bluetooth to some other device.
Lucent has actually sold one of these such things - but you'll laugh when I tell you that their Cat5-to-802.11 adapter is actually a Wavelan card in a box. It's expensive, and fairly ridiculous to boot.
Unfortunately, the current Linux PAM codebase is a big, ugly, bug-ridden mass of spaghetti code.
I keep hearing people say this - yet I personally use PAM to do Kerberos authentication on a good number of Linux workstations, and I have very few problems with it. I'm not trying to flame you here, but I am curious to find out just what you mean when you say that Linux's PAM implementation is big, ugly, and bug-ridden. Could you give some sort of example of something that needs to be fixed?
... or imagine what could happen if all of a sudden a large wave of 60-year-old Unix gurus were unleashed as Linux developers instead of HP-UX or Tru-64 developers.
Very Good things may happen if Hewlett Paqard keeps their OS fellows around and turns them towards the new unified OS front.
Support for 3D is pretty obvious, and open source. Support for the TV-out (and in) is HERE, and the sourceforge project page is HERE. The code is pretty hairy, but it works. Not only that, but the TV out works at the same time as the 3D. I've seen it myself on my box. Only one problem - good luck finding one of these cards, considering that poor 3dfx is defunkt.
While I agree completely with your first and second points, and I find your third to be an interesting proposal, I think it is flawed thusly:
Consider the previous US presedential election. It may have worked well here (discounting extreme minority parties such as the Libertarians), because we can assume that almost nobody would have voted for {Gore,Bush} nor {Bush,Gore}. Most of the people that voted in this system would have used it to place {Nader,Gore} or perhaps {Nader,Buchanan} - or {Gore,Nader}, {Bush,Nader} (the last one sounding quite unlikely of course).
What would happen when the votes were tallied would be iterative - the primary votes are counted. Whoops, Gore wins, even though N number of people voted for Nader. So, all those who secondary-voted for Nader get their votes changed. Now perhaps Nader has a majority somehow. But wait! What about the people that voted for {Nader,Bush}? Now their votes drop to Bush because their 'minority' choice didn't win. Now perhaps Bush has a majority. Ooh, what happens next? All the people that voted {Nader,Clinton} drop their votes to Clinton, because Bush won after the first iteration.
Now Nader is completely out of the running, because a majority of voters simply did not vote for him as their primary choice. The vote returns to the in-place two-party system once again at this point, and we have the same problem. Nobody wins except the politicians.
Now, in reading this over I see that my logic is slightly flawed, but I hope you can understand what was trying to come out of my head here. The situation would get even more confusing (I think) if there were three candidates that each earned roughly 1/3 of the popular vote.
You're missing part of the point - it's easy to set up ssh to use DSA or RSA authentication to allow you access without your password (you put your public key that you've made with ssh-keygen - ~/.ssh/identity.pub or ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub - in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys or authorized_keys2) - and you can also use ssh-agent to keep your ssh key accessible after only putting in your passphrase once.
Personally I appreciate Debian's approach to this - when you log in, you are doing so indirectly through ssh-agent, which keeps your ssh key available during your session.
I know this is slightly off-topic, but I find myself faced with nearly exactly the same problem. My ISP has setup a wireless network using regular Lucent wavelan gear, but they are running Karlnet's Turbocell firmware instead of the standard 802.11b stuff. There is Linux driver based on the standard wavelan2_cs available from Karlnet, but neither I nor anyone else I know has been able to get it to function.
Has anyone else had to deal with this? If so, was there a solution that didn't involve forking over the $300 for the external box?
You can. And you probably do. This is, of course, assuming that you're a male like the other 98% or so of slashdot, but have you ever had a woody? Yes? There you have it, that's some magic nitrous oxide in action, right there in your pecker.
And we thought only bugs could do tricks with the stuff!
It even goes beyond that. In order to even use the system *at all* for more than 14 days, you must "activate" the system with Microsoft. You can generate a key with any number of keygens, but if it isn't one that MS's servers like, they won't let you run their OS.
It sucks, but that's what they are up to. The goal, I suppose, is to stop people from casually warez-ing their operating system. I fully expect Office 10 to be this way, as well as any further major MS software releases.
Thank you for the package list - Gnome 1.4 looks very exciting, but I have one small question: What exactly is the purpose for Medusa? What makes it superior to the (already existing on 99.99% of all systems) slocate database? Please realize that this is not intended as a troll or a criticism, but simply a question.
My only experience with Medusa has been through Nautilus preview releases, where I have seen medusa-indexd run at all sorts of strange times, and I also witnessed medusa cause my system (indirectly, admittedly) to crash by filling up/var until there was absolutely no space left. I accept that this is a prerelease, and it isn't intended to be perfect, but it appears from my perspective that Medusa is the new Linux equivalent of the old Microsoft "Find Fast" daemon that used to suck up CPU time and grind the drive all the time on the Windows front. If someone could tell me that this is not the normal behaviour of Medusa, I'll be very relieved.
Once again, I'm not trolling, and I'm not trying to bitch too much, I'm just wondering.
While searching Sourceforge revealed bunches of MP3 jukebox apps, the one I use and find to be very cool is Globecom Jukebox. It also has a Sourceforge page. I think this one can be configured to do just what you're asking, involving transferring files between multiple networked jukeboxes, as well as Icecast streaming to you if you want. I use it on my personal machine a bit, and it makes a great multi-user jukebox in my office where many people queue up songs - it's quite nifty.
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Or is this a dumb question ...?
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people. ;-) (hehe) I don't mean to insinuate that you're an idiot, but that little quote is just too funny.
Anyway, it wouldn't really have any effect on the cooling at all, unless you were taking it outside in sunlight. The color of an object affects its temperature only because of the frequencies of light that it reflects vs those that it absorbs. White objects reflect a lot of light, but black ones absorb it as heat.
He stated that the airplanes could have not brought them down seeing that buildings of a lesser, equal, or greater size get the same sort of impact daily with the force of winds.
Well, this may be true, but when you consider that the airplanes *did* down the two buildings, one must realise that there is something flawed about that statement. I would accept that most skyscrapers are pummeled with the strength of an airplane crash daily, except that the force is spread across the entire structure, or at least one entire face, of the building. Consider what it might feel like if you were walking down the street and suddenly the entire energy of the ~50mph wind gusts that you normally can easily withstand were channeled at a 1cm^2 section of your chest, or even your skull. Wouldn't that at least completely knock the wind out of you? I haven't the time to properly do the math myself right now, but it may work out that such an energy release over such a small space would be enough force to pierce skin and possibly break bones.
And that is what made the difference, aside from the fire and explosions that are discussed elsewhere in the thread.
just a small segway, sometimes people are very suspicious of free things
AAAAH! It's starting! Nobody in the entire universe will ever spell segue* correctly EVER AGAIN!
*or so I predict. This is only the beginning...
</humor>
I think I've got that beat, actually :-)
I have *one* machine holding up a table - I wish I had a picture of the actual table, but the machine is one of these beasties. The problem is that there's an 8-node beowulf (4xdual PII/333, + 2gbit myrinet) on top of the table, along with an Indigo2, 2 21" SGI monitors and a 15" Compaq p.o.s. for the KVM switch, and the table was designed to hold... say... a plate of deli meats, a salad bar, and some napkins. Maybe.
So, long story short - some genius snaps off one corner of the table by standing on it. The rest of the table bows downward a little bit, resting itself on top of the SGI 4d/310 beast. Whee, computer furniture!
AOL will stun the world by releasing a beta AOL client for Linux ...
Yeah, sure. And Tux the Penguin will be replaced by Joe the Wannabe Journalist.
Surprise, it's already happened. I have *seen* an AOL client running on Linux, on *my* system. It existed at least a year ago, though it's not been released publicly. I'd love to still have it, but it's one of the things I lost in a disk crash a few months back.
Come to think about it, there may have even been a slashdot story about it - I'll see if I can dig it up.
Really, it doesn't have to take up *that* much space. I've worked in the CAVE before, and while it's somewhat large, there's no reason it couldn't be made smaller these days, given that three-gun CRT projectors are outmoded, and with a single gun projector you could use much smaller mirrors. Make the walls 6' high, and you'd need a room maybe 15' by 15', perhaps 20' by 20' to get the job done. And the ceiling needs to be maybe 8' tall, given some planning. (the CAVE system doesn't have a ceiling surface, but it has a floor - there's a projector pointed straight down via a mirror).
Granted, the 12 CPU Onyx2 (named Cassatt) takes up some room... but that is physically located in a different room in the Beckmann setup, and video is piped in.
So basically you need:
- 4 LCD projectors, at a minimum of $1200 or so each for cheesy ones.
- 3 rear projection surfaces - since we're using cheap projectors, you may as well use white bedsheets attached to a homebuilt wooden frame
- 3 or 4 small-ish mirrors, unless you've got room to put the projectors all around the area.
- (the biggie) Lots of CPU, and software.
Thankfully, the software mentioned in the article is freely available, so that takes some cost out of the problem. Now you just need a minimum of 4 graphics pipes, say $200/each GeForce2 or whatever's available, and machines to put them in. Perhaps with some nice fast interconnects - gigabit ethernet will do in a pinch, there isn't such a need for things like Myrinet anymore, although Myrinet is doing some truly wicked things these days (2+2 gigabit full-duplex networking!)But I digress. As you can see, it's doable.
That really-small, really-cool Sony Vaio device comes to mind... or even an Apple iBook....
:-)
I've got one of those really-small really-cool Sony Vaio devices of which you speak (an sr27k which I got free after Sony borked my previous sr7k in the shop), and I must say I *really* like the thing. I've taken it to a bunch of classes, and my notes are a lot better because of it. I type a whole lot faster and more accurately than I can write, as I'm sure a lot of other people do - the keyboard on this thing is pretty conducive to fast typing, too.
As for equation entry, I realised after much puzzling that doing all that in Mathematica is the best way to do it. It took me a while to get good at it, but after I figured out all the keyboard shortcuts it got pretty easy. The real bonus is that I can actually decipher what I took down when I look at it an hour later.
On a side note, I'm planning on trading this laptop in on an iBook soon. This one is fantastic, but it's shiny-newness has worn off for me for some reason, and that's mostly what I'm interested in.
It's called a Snapon,
correction: it's called a ClipOn Organizer, not a Snapon. Sorry about that.
Oh and by the way, the 2-minute-post-limit thing and the 20-second-reply-limit thing are freaking annoying.
Because of its limitations, I got a Xircom Rex MiniPDA (basically a PCMCIA card with a touch-screen that does addresses, notes, calendar, and third-party apps). In the end, I threw out the Casio and got an analog watch. The Rex does everything I'd ever need a PDA to do, and it's tiny. This sounds like a product plug - must stop now.
I've got what seems to be the perfect (for me) solution - a device that is functionally identical to a Rex, only it attaches to the back of my Startac phone. It's called a Snapon, Motorola marketed them for a while. They are end-of-lining the things these days for whatever reason, which means they can be had for a song. I got one for $40, and they went for $300 or so at first.
Anyhow, it's fantastic - keeps a bajillion phone numbers, my calendar, etc etc, just like any competent PDA should. And, it is one with my phone. Fits in the holster right on back of the Startac on my belt. And it dials the phone for me, which is a real miracle. I wish I knew of a source to tell you to get more of these - it's really great.
One of the things I'd personally like to see is some kind of overlaid filesystem so each image by default gets /bin /lib etc. from a generic set but users can modify them if they need to - this would allow a sysadmin to keep the default system current while not preventing 'owners' of an individual image from being able to change things if they need to....I vaguely remember something like this for CDs - anyone got the details? Time for a bit of experimentation ;-)
The HURD has support for such an overlaid filesystem. It's flexible to the point where you could (I believe) mount a CD as a read-only device, and then write changes to the disc, storing your changes elsewhere. I'm pretty fuzzy on exactly how it works, but I've had it explained to me by a couple of HURD hackers and it sounds very neat.
Hey, I hate to bitch, but I kinda thought that the web was a non-object in 1986. Perhaps you got sucked into a timewarp(.org) and meant to say 1996?
Yeah, that kinda sucks. They do say in the article, however, that all-day battery life should be available in a year or so.
Here's what I'm wondering, though. Why does my wristwatch have to be so damn smart? This thing has bluetooth. In theory, so should my visor/palm/newton/pocketpc/agenda/whatever. Right? Why, then, can't my wristwatch just act as a wireless display/input device (using that nifty Bluetooth piconet!) for a slightly larger, more intelligent device that I keep in my pocket/purse/backpack/etc, which can have *much* longer battery life?
I think that would be cool, and I think they could squeeze a bit more battery life out of the watch this way - it wouldn't need any CPU or RAM to speak of, just enough to talk Bluetooth to some other device.
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This post is fully buzzword compliant.
Lucent has actually sold one of these such things - but you'll laugh when I tell you that their Cat5-to-802.11 adapter is actually a Wavelan card in a box. It's expensive, and fairly ridiculous to boot.
Unfortunately, the current Linux PAM codebase is a big, ugly, bug-ridden mass of spaghetti code.
I keep hearing people say this - yet I personally use PAM to do Kerberos authentication on a good number of Linux workstations, and I have very few problems with it. I'm not trying to flame you here, but I am curious to find out just what you mean when you say that Linux's PAM implementation is big, ugly, and bug-ridden. Could you give some sort of example of something that needs to be fixed?
Inquisitive minds want to know.
... or imagine what could happen if all of a sudden a large wave of 60-year-old Unix gurus were unleashed as Linux developers instead of HP-UX or Tru-64 developers.
Very Good things may happen if Hewlett Paqard keeps their OS fellows around and turns them towards the new unified OS front.
I really have only one thing to say:
3dfx Voodoo3 3500TV.
Support for 3D is pretty obvious, and open source. Support for the TV-out (and in) is HERE, and the sourceforge project page is HERE. The code is pretty hairy, but it works. Not only that, but the TV out works at the same time as the 3D. I've seen it myself on my box. Only one problem - good luck finding one of these cards, considering that poor 3dfx is defunkt.
I'm fairly sure that it just starts ssh-agent for you on login, as does Mandrake (a fact which I was not aware of).
While I agree completely with your first and second points, and I find your third to be an interesting proposal, I think it is flawed thusly:
Consider the previous US presedential election. It may have worked well here (discounting extreme minority parties such as the Libertarians), because we can assume that almost nobody would have voted for {Gore,Bush} nor {Bush,Gore}. Most of the people that voted in this system would have used it to place {Nader,Gore} or perhaps {Nader,Buchanan} - or {Gore,Nader}, {Bush,Nader} (the last one sounding quite unlikely of course).
What would happen when the votes were tallied would be iterative - the primary votes are counted. Whoops, Gore wins, even though N number of people voted for Nader. So, all those who secondary-voted for Nader get their votes changed. Now perhaps Nader has a majority somehow. But wait! What about the people that voted for {Nader,Bush}? Now their votes drop to Bush because their 'minority' choice didn't win. Now perhaps Bush has a majority. Ooh, what happens next? All the people that voted {Nader,Clinton} drop their votes to Clinton, because Bush won after the first iteration.
Now Nader is completely out of the running, because a majority of voters simply did not vote for him as their primary choice. The vote returns to the in-place two-party system once again at this point, and we have the same problem. Nobody wins except the politicians.
Now, in reading this over I see that my logic is slightly flawed, but I hope you can understand what was trying to come out of my head here. The situation would get even more confusing (I think) if there were three candidates that each earned roughly 1/3 of the popular vote.
You're missing part of the point - it's easy to set up ssh to use DSA or RSA authentication to allow you access without your password (you put your public key that you've made with ssh-keygen - ~/.ssh/identity.pub or ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub - in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys or authorized_keys2) - and you can also use ssh-agent to keep your ssh key accessible after only putting in your passphrase once.
Personally I appreciate Debian's approach to this - when you log in, you are doing so indirectly through ssh-agent, which keeps your ssh key available during your session.
Anyone, feel free to correct me on this stuff.
I know this is slightly off-topic, but I find myself faced with nearly exactly the same problem. My ISP has setup a wireless network using regular Lucent wavelan gear, but they are running Karlnet's Turbocell firmware instead of the standard 802.11b stuff. There is Linux driver based on the standard wavelan2_cs available from Karlnet, but neither I nor anyone else I know has been able to get it to function.
Has anyone else had to deal with this? If so, was there a solution that didn't involve forking over the $300 for the external box?
Like this?
You can. And you probably do. This is, of course, assuming that you're a male like the other 98% or so of slashdot, but have you ever had a woody? Yes? There you have it, that's some magic nitrous oxide in action, right there in your pecker.
And we thought only bugs could do tricks with the stuff!
It even goes beyond that. In order to even use the system *at all* for more than 14 days, you must "activate" the system with Microsoft. You can generate a key with any number of keygens, but if it isn't one that MS's servers like, they won't let you run their OS.
It sucks, but that's what they are up to. The goal, I suppose, is to stop people from casually warez-ing their operating system. I fully expect Office 10 to be this way, as well as any further major MS software releases.
Thank you for the package list - Gnome 1.4 looks very exciting, but I have one small question: What exactly is the purpose for Medusa? What makes it superior to the (already existing on 99.99% of all systems) slocate database? Please realize that this is not intended as a troll or a criticism, but simply a question.
/var until there was absolutely no space left. I accept that this is a prerelease, and it isn't intended to be perfect, but it appears from my perspective that Medusa is the new Linux equivalent of the old Microsoft "Find Fast" daemon that used to suck up CPU time and grind the drive all the time on the Windows front. If someone could tell me that this is not the normal behaviour of Medusa, I'll be very relieved.
My only experience with Medusa has been through Nautilus preview releases, where I have seen medusa-indexd run at all sorts of strange times, and I also witnessed medusa cause my system (indirectly, admittedly) to crash by filling up
Once again, I'm not trolling, and I'm not trying to bitch too much, I'm just wondering.
While searching Sourceforge revealed bunches of MP3 jukebox apps, the one I use and find to be very cool is Globecom Jukebox. It also has a Sourceforge page. I think this one can be configured to do just what you're asking, involving transferring files between multiple networked jukeboxes, as well as Icecast streaming to you if you want. I use it on my personal machine a bit, and it makes a great multi-user jukebox in my office where many people queue up songs - it's quite nifty.