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Make Your Own Transparent iBook

Blackstealth sent in linkage to an attractive and clever mod for the Apple iBook. The TronBook takes the idea of a transparent iBook and takes it a few steps further. I wish we'd see more laptop mods of this quality.

146 comments

  1. And lose the magnesium cover? by VikingBrad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So if I drop it what happens?

    1. Re:And lose the magnesium cover? by Hast · · Score: 2, Informative

      The iBook doesn't have magnesium cover, that's the TiBook. The iBook just have painted plastic. (Which is why these hacks are so easy to do.)

    2. Re:And lose the magnesium cover? by DataSquid · · Score: 1

      Well, for that matter the TiBook doesn't as well. I think the Ti in TiBook stands for something ;) Never really looked into it, it could just be a marketing gimmick, but I think the bodies are made of titanium.

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    3. Re:And lose the magnesium cover? by xTina · · Score: 3, Informative

      The iBook doesn't have a magnesium cover but it does have a magnesium frame:

      <snip>
      That's why it's made of ultratough polycarbonate - the same material used in bulletproof glass - and has an internal magnesium frame for added strength.
      </snip>

      (from http://www.apple.com/ibook/)

    4. Re:And lose the magnesium cover? by crumbz · · Score: 2

      yes, the bodies are titanium.

    5. Re:And lose the magnesium cover? by Hast · · Score: 1

      But neither the frame not the glass is altered. You use alcohol or some other solvent to remove the standard (white) paint and then apply your colour of choice.

  2. Picture Mirror... by FyRE666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here for when the site inevitably goes down :-)

    1. Re:Picture Mirror... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's posted on homepage.mac.com.

      You're going to take down Apple's bandwidth? The same people who hosted the original Star Wars Episode 1 Trailer? Aaaahahahaha!

      ~Blake

    2. Re:Picture Mirror... by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

      Somehow I have a hard time believing homepage.mac.com can be slashdotted... but we'll see, won't we?

    3. Re:Picture Mirror... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Somebody please mod up the AC, who is correct in pointing out that there is no way in hell a few Apple fans at Slashdot are going to take down mac.com by reading this, and mod down the karma whore who posted a mirror.

      Then again, we got a buch of crack-head moderators lately who are probably reading at a default of 1, so none of them will even see my complaint, and I'm just jerking around by typing this. Oh, fuck it.

  3. Quickies!! by hangdog · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Please bring back Quickies and please put all case mod stories under them.

    Anybody else miss Quickies? What happened to them?

    1. Re:Quickies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish case mods had their own topic so I could
      block them and never see them again.


      That isn't offtopic at all!

      I wish we had an "Anti-Slashdot" downmod option that users could adjust in their prefs to not lower the comment score. Cause offtopic is definitely the wrong downmod for above comment.

    2. Re:Quickies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish we had an Anti-Motherfucking-Dumbass downmod option so I could ignore motherfucking dumbass shit like your stupid post.

  4. Pro shops? by DataSquid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any chance someone has started doing this commercially, like these guys do for GBAs and the like? I'd like to get this done, but to source the parts and have the time/skill is a definite problem. Especially in the skill area. A friend of mine trashed his LCD trying something like this. I guess the paint ran off into the back or something.

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    1. Re:Pro shops? by jbrw · · Score: 2

      Are there any alternatives to the colorconsoles.com people listed above? My flatmate promises he'll get a PS2 as soon as he can get his hands on a white one (yup, it's a fashion accessory), and Sony Europe hasn't released their limited edition yet (or, alternatively they have, and we didn't notice).

      If there's someone doing good case kits, and i'm sure there must be, i'd appreciate the linkage.

  5. RE: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple produces transparent pre-production models of every product. Sort of a final debugging - that way, if a chip blows, or there's a stress on the plastic somewhere, it can be identified quite easily...they've been doing this for years...

  6. plastic? by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I commend apple on both their design and marketing (who else could manage to sell "of course it's going to be more expensive now, you understand don't you?") I can't get over the fact that it's so plastic. I've had a few different laptops over the year and my favorites are invevitably the ones with metal exteriors. A device that's meant to be portable should be durable, and I'm afraid that while plastics have made great strides in impact resistance, for sheer maleability (sp?) of impact and ability to stay in one piece, alloys in use today still win hands down. I wanted an ibook. I lusted after one. Then I picked one up and played with it. No thank you sam. Give me something that's gonna survive daily duty in the back of a pack or the bottom of a briefcase.

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    1. Re:plastic? by inburito · · Score: 2

      I suppose how it works is that you get what you pay for.

      plastic=cheap - metal=expensive
      from here we can deduce that
      ibook=plastic=cheap - tibook=metal=expensive

      this is all relative apple-pricing of course.. ;-)

    2. Re:plastic? by stripes · · Score: 2
      A device that's meant to be portable should be durable, and I'm afraid that while plastics have made great strides in impact resistance, for sheer maleability (sp?) of impact and ability to stay in one piece, alloys in use today still win hands down.

      Metal is durable, I'll give you that. However the metal used in laptops tends to be chosen to be light so you get very little of it. I doubt the Ti book is more durable then the iBook for example because so little Ti is used. More importantly high impact plastics tend too dissipate more of the force then metal. I don't have lots of impact experience with laptops, but with metal cameras you can get some dings and keep going, but you can also get some that transmit enough force to the camera innards that even though the body has not shattered the camera is dead. With plastic camera you tend to not manage to break the innards without breaking the body. The (better) plastics can take a whole lot of impact. I would rather use the plastic EOS-3 to hammer nails then the metal EOS-1v...

      Then I picked one up and played with it.

      Well the metals frequently feel better then plastics. Of corse rubber is frequently even more tactile. None of that speaks to how durable the thing is though.

    3. Re:plastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I've had an iBook 500 since last August, and I'll admit I was a little concerned about the plastic case at first, too.
      However, having hauled it around in a backpack, used it outdoors, on the subway in NYC, and having actually dropped it a couple of times, I can attest to the strength of the case.
      Sure, it's plastic, but it has an internal magnesium alloy frame, and the plastic shell has held up quite well. A few scratches here and there, but....metal scratches up, too. :)

    4. Re:plastic? by thebudda · · Score: 1

      because so little Ti is used? Check again my ignorant friend, the casing is a sheet of pure titanium, just like on the wings of aircraft and sattellites.

    5. Re:plastic? by stripes · · Score: 2
      because so little Ti is used? Check again my ignorant friend, the casing is a sheet of pure titanium, just like on the wings of aircraft and sattellites.

      Yes? And? It is pure Ti, and it is pretty much the only exterior case material, but very little is used. How could that be? Well it is thin ! That's right the iBook has maybe a 1/4inch of plastic, and the TiBook has maybe 1/16th of an inch of Ti.

    6. Re:plastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've had a plastic ibook for a while and it's remarkably sturdy - more so in my opinion than the Tibook, which is a little thin.

      Malleable means easy to work with or easily (de)formable. Since I'm being picky, you didn't want to describe the impact anyway, but the reaction to the impact, so the word is in the wrong place.

      What are you doing to your computer that will hurt the casing but not damage components inside which are far more fragile (HD, optical drive, IC)??? I would have thought internal mounting would matter far more than casing style...

    7. Re:plastic? by eric434 · · Score: 2

      I'll vouch for that. Prior to getting a Tom Bihn Mitre case (if you have a Tibook, you need AT LEAST a Mitre), my bag with tibook inside was dropped from the height of about a foot and a half onto concrete. The front of the bottom panel deformed a good deal (it's a messenger bag, so the laptop was front-edge down), and although it's only a cosmetic thing (The non-titianium(?) silver band between the screen and bottom panel [when the laptop is closed] took the shock well), it's still kind of stupid.

      Oh, and the titanium on the bottom panel looks to be about 1/32" thick. Not even CLOSE to 1/16.

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    8. Re:plastic? by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Take it from someone who made this decision almost a year ago. The 12" iBook is *much* more durable than the TiBook.

      The TiBook is too flexible; if picked up in one hand, it will bend-- in early models, it could bend enough for the battery contacts to lose contact with the battery. The iBook is made to be used by young kids in school, and put up with what they can dish out-- this makes it the ideal machine for a support tech like me who's out on the road all the time. My iBook goes with me everywhere in my backpack. I have no doubts it'd be fine in there by itself, though I did indulge in a padded SleevCase from Waterfield Designs to provide a little more protection. I highly recommend their cases, they ship quickly and are responsive to their customers-- they very quickly made a 'top loader' version of their iBook SleevCase when asked, so I don't even need to take the case out of my backpack, and I still have the 'side loader' model for when I take the iBook somewhere without my backpack.

      ~Philly

    9. Re:plastic? by enol · · Score: 1

      OT question:

      I know someone who carries his ibook in a backpack too, and even though his is newer than mine, it's already gotten some scratches and wear on the outside. (However, the ibook works perfectly, a testament to its durability)

      So are these SleevCases small enough to fit into a backpack? And how much of a hassel is it using them like straps, velcros, and the size. I'm looking at a couple of pictures on the site now and they seem like the perfect sol'n but I want to hear from someone who actually uses them.

    10. Re:plastic? by rinoid · · Score: 0
      Interesting? Not to one who continues the price bitching about apple... it's old, it's tired, and in this case it is kinda just wrong!
      (who else could manage to sell "of course it's going to be more expensive now, you understand don't you?")

      Have you checked the price/features of an iBook vs other name vendors? You can't match the 1300.00 iBook with anything else on the market... IMO

      Considering the weight -- 4.9lbs -- size -- and features Sony doesn't come close in price unless you want to lug your dvd/cdrw drive with you... even then the price is about the same.

      but hey, this topic is about the cool mod. thanks for posting it, i am amazed by the time people put into modding their cases

    11. Re:plastic? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      so then what's the internal metal frame made out of? magnesium? aluminum? i'm guessing titanium

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    12. Re:plastic? by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      The SleevCase is basically an envelope of about 1/2 inch of foam padding. The opening has one velcro strap that goes over it. There is just enough excess length to the case that if you velcro it tightly, it effectively completely encloses the iBook in a foam cocoon. And it fits wonderfully in my backpack, I have no trouble at all getting it out or putting it away quickly, while the (top-loading) case remains in the backpack. I think you can get a model with loops for a shoulder strap, but mine is just bare bones, never meant to be used outside of my backpack.

      ~Philly

    13. Re:plastic? by phalse+phace · · Score: 1
      "Give me something that's gonna survive daily duty in the back of a pack or the bottom of a briefcase."

      the iBook *will* survive daily duty in a back pack or the bottom of a briefcase. I should know, because that's what I use to carry mine around (a back pack because I don't want people to know that I have a laptop). Anyway, i've dropped mine and it's been banged up here and there and still no problems. I even know of someone who's (accidentally) ran over theirs, and it still boots up. No major problems. I absolutely love Apple's laptops, mainly because they are so well built. I've been using them for a decade now and have no intentions to stop -- they're awesome machines.

    14. Re:plastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's very high-impact plastic, and the outsides are obviously big one-piece jobs, so it is actually quite durable. I had an original (toilet seat) iBook for a while, and it was very, very rugged. I dropped it a number of times, and I just threw it in a plain knapsack with a bunch of other junk all the time and took it around with me and it never failed. When Apple released the iBook 2 (the square one that's out now) they said that it was twice as rugged as the original from their tests. The hard drive is on rubber shock mounts, all the ports are on one side in a one-piece unit, and the LCD has a pretty good lip around it. If you touch one that's closed up, you feel like you're picking up a one-piece something. It's like a big plastic brick.

      This all makes sense since the iBook is meant to sell into schools. They sell 10's of thousands to school districts, and these are given out to eighth graders. It's a great little notebook/subnotebook. Subnotebook size but still has optical drive, FireWire, Ethernet, Wi-Fi, TV out, etc. built-in.

      Anyway, you can pay $349 extra for "AppleCare" and you get a CD of utilities and for three years Apple will fix anything that isn't obviously from abuse, as well as just answer any tech support questions you have. It makes for a pretty tidy little multimedia UNIX package.

    15. Re:plastic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also get the NC Shuttle from CaseLogic, which is a bit cheaper ($17).

    16. Re:plastic? by laserjet · · Score: 2

      I second your experience. I bought my white iBook (dual USB) about a year ago, and love it. I carry it around in my backpack and beat the hell out of it and it works fine. it is VERY durable. Apple laptops are very well built.

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    17. Re:plastic? by yaway_rerout · · Score: 1

      Where do you get clear metal?

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  7. Two words. by red5 · · Score: 1

    I'm afraid that while plastics have made great strides in impact resistance, for sheer maleability (sp?) of impact and ability to stay in one piece, alloys in use today still win hands down. I wanted an ibook. I lusted after one. Then I picked one up and played with it. No thank you sam. Give me something that's gonna survive daily duty in the back of a pack or the bottom of a briefcase.

    Ummm TiBook?

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    1. Re:Two words. by stripes · · Score: 3, Informative
      Ummm TiBook?

      The TiBook while it is very nice does have a few drawbacks. It is physically wider. As a more costly item it may be more of a theft target. Worst of all (to me) it has a whole lot less 802.11 range (the iBook and PowerBook G3 tends to have much better range then most PCMCIA 802.11 cards, the TiBook has somewhat worse range then 802.11 cards). There are a lot of good things about the TiBook though.

    2. Re:Two words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think maybe that has something to do with the metal cover?

    3. Re:Two words. by threephaseboy · · Score: 2

      Oh yes, the Powerbook G3 has really great Airport range, what with its LACK of built-in airport

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    4. Re:Two words. by stripes · · Score: 2
      Oh yes, the Powerbook G3 has really great Airport range, what with its LACK of built-in airport

      Bull, at the very least the FireWire G3 had built in airport (or at least an internal slot for it, and an internal antenna).

      I'll bet you $100 I can produce one. Or $3000. Whatever.

    5. Re:Two words. by threephaseboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fine. But most of them did not. Also note that "Powerbook G3" technically refers to the Kanga G3, the one in the 5300 case, while "Powerbook G3 Series" refers to the first curvy ones thru the last FW models. Everything up to and including the bronze G3 didnt have a airport slot b/c airport had not come out yet.

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    6. Re:Two words. by stripes · · Score: 2
      Also note that "Powerbook G3" technically refers to the Kanga G3

      Hmmm, I would have thought "PowerBook G3" would refer to anything that says "PoweBook G3" on the case, especally things that say "PowerBook G3" with nothing in front of or after it, which is exactly what my (er, my wife's) "FireWire" PowerBook G3 says right on the front between the LCD and keyboard where my PowerBook G4 says "PowerBook G4"...

    7. Re:Two words. by threephaseboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Look at: http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.html
      Note that you have Powerbook G3 (Series), Powerbook G3 (Bronze), Powerbook G3 (Firewire), and then just "Powerbook G3"

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  8. Hmmmm by red5 · · Score: 1

    To bad I bought a TiBook.
    ...
    Oh wait mines better.
    Cool looking though.

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    1. Re:Hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ask Scotty for a few sheets of transparent aluminium... if he wants to do weird things to your computer first tho, like speaking into your mouse or something, let him be... it's well worth it.

    2. Re:Hmmmm by ToasterTester · · Score: 1

      I should of got a V8 and a iBook. Then I wouldn't be having heat issues and full wireless range. The titanium does have it disadvantages.

  9. Dummy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That light bulb paint will rub off in no time, he could have laquered it for a bit more durability.

    Nice though, I'm jealous enough to have a go with the red.

    1. Re:Dummy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if painted on the inside, like the original.

  10. The Future. by upstairs · · Score: 2, Funny

    AC sent in linkage to an attractive and clever mod for the Apple G4 Tower. A beige box conversion! I wish we'd see more boxen mods of this ingenuity.

  11. Wow by jaavaaguru · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That is so cool. It makes me wonder though, why Apple doesn't come up with designs like this themselves. yeah sure, they come up with a lot of original stuff and cool designs, but having more to choose from would surely be an advantage. The transparent cover over the hard drive and battery could do with being tinted blue - it's just a wee bit too clear I think. Wish I could afford an iBook to do this to :o)

    1. Re:Wow by crawling_chaos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the end, it comes down to economics. Every time Apple comes up with something interesting, there's a whole group of people who jump all over them for their prices being too high. If they had more choices, they'd be ordering parts in even smaller numbers and the prices would be even higher. They need to walk a fine line between having too many choices and being boring. I think Steve would rather die than be boring.

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    2. Re:Wow by upstairs · · Score: 1

      They could very well do this in the future. As I recall the first generation iMac's were offered only in 'bondi blue'. Subsequently they have been offered in a plethora of colours. Given that the iBook is catered towards the home market, this divergence of colours offered is an even more likely possibility.

      However I think a big part of the brilliance of Apple design is the use of conservative colours. There are some fantastic possibilities though, imagine a transparent current iMac!

    3. Re:Wow by usr122122121 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm...
      I always thought it was the computer owner's job to do the case mods....
      If every computer manufacturer made case mods, don't you think that we'd end up with a market full of hard drive windows and neon lighting?
      Apple targets generally three computer markets: Consumer, "prosumer", and Professional.
      I really can not see them adding iHotRod or iFlourescentTubing to their computer line.
      (Don't get me wrong, I REALLY LIKE case mods, I just really don't think that it's the manufacturer's job to supply them. Plus, find me one person who modified a Titanium Powerbook, and I'll be astonished. That is a beautiful machine.)
      -braxton

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    4. Re:Wow by stripes · · Score: 5, Interesting
      If they had more choices, they'd be ordering parts in even smaller numbers and the prices would be even higher. They need to walk a fine line between having too many choices and being boring

      Harley has a "factory custom" program. The dealers don't stock these bikes (or at least they don't expect to sell the ones they stock). They are not cheap (you pay for having custom body work). They are not common (many people may buy them, but very very few will buy their "custom" bike with the exact same set of options). The changes are all cosmetic. A factory custom bike isn't really cheaper then buying stock, and having a local shop do the mods (even though Harley saves by not putting on the original parts that they will just take off and replace).

      So why do people buy them? Well it is simpler the finding a reputable skilled local body shop to do it, and you keep the warranty. There are some mods I would do to my TiBook (external antenna port, different color logo, maybe some other things) except I want to keep the warranty. I'm sure a lot of people would pay extra (and since they are already buying Apple, pay a lot extra for a custom, maybe not one of a kind, but could be the only one in the state set of mods).

    5. Re:Wow by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2
      I thought the Harley custom program was largely a response to a thriving modification aftermarket. They essentially saw that the demand was there and moved in to take a piece of it.

      There aren't very many mod shops for Powerbooks yet. If it becomes a viable business, it would make sense for Apple to try to grab a piece of that pie.

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    6. Re:Wow by stripes · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I thought the Harley custom program was largely a response to a thriving modification aftermarket. They essentially saw that the demand was there and moved in to take a piece of it.

      According to the history channel at least a Harley VP was at a show and saw a bunch of people selling bike mod kits and a light bulb went off. The guy that did the "tron book" bought his kit at a show, so maybe all we need is the right VP going to the show :-)

      There aren't very many mod shops for Powerbooks yet. If it becomes a viable business, it would make sense for Apple to try to grab a piece of that pie.

      I have no idea how many or few mod shops there are for Apple's (or Wintel hardware). However there was an existing similar business (body shops) for bikes, but computer repair shops pretty much do wholesale part replacements, not repair. So I don't think there is a close enough shop to mutate. Also motorcycles had more interchangeable parts, so you could take some other companies chopper parts and put 'em on a Harley to get a low rider Harley. It would be hard to take a Viao shell and put it on an iBook... (or an iBook shell on a JetBook).

      You are right though, if Apple waits for mod shops to become common then they know they have a sure thing. If they decide the demand is there before something proves that it is, well they could be wrong (they could also find out they are right years or decades before it is a "sure thing").

      P.S. I think the 2 line laser etching on the iPods does sort of count as factory custom, but it is only on one (er, two) product(s), and only one option. Still it is a start. Or if it sells poorly, an end.

    7. Re:Wow by dfluke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, Apple should at least ship iBooks with different colours-choices if not transparent, sort of like the "old" iMac line.. mmm, Pink iBook..

    8. Re:Wow by stripes · · Score: 2

      Wish I had thought of this before, but there is another common iBook/TiBook mod other then color/light changing. The old iBook ("toilet seat" iBooks) had a built in handle. Very useful. The new iBook doesn't, no PowerBook ever did. some places sell handle kits fot the TiBook and new iBook. I have one on my TiBook, slightly unwealdy, but way better for carrying then no handle (not cross town carry, for that a backpack is better, but to go from your office to someone else's to show something, or moving from room to room in your house). However if Apple had done it they could have made it from Al and put the TiBook antenna in it. I think a lot of people would pay a modest extra ammount for the handle and better 802.11 reception...even if that made it a BTO option.

    9. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I saw that the top of the iBook is just one piece of plastic held on by four screws, I thought for sure that either Apple or a third party would make a range of new tops for the iBook, in colors or patterns. Especially given that Apple had the Flower Power iMac and then suddenly gave up on colors for a while. I thought they would ship white and then you could add your own customization.

      Maybe this didn't catch on as much because the iBook is so attractive as-is. It's just an elemental little frame for your Mac OS X desktop, just big enough for a full-sized keyboard and containing all of the ports and stuff that you could ever need.

      Apple used to make a PowerBook that had a transparent top, and you could snap it off and put stuff under there, like magazine clippings, or a poster, or your own photos, and they were held under the top like a picture frame. I thought they might go down that road again with the iBook.

      One cool thing is that I went to the transparent iBook link and all the Asian characters look great. It's so cool to surf the Web with Mac OS X and have all the languages built-in, so you really know you're on a World Wide Web. I am also using OmniWeb, which uses Mac OS X's new text rendering, and the anti-aliasing makes the transparent iBook page look like a magazine article. Nice. The option list is also Aqua-style, with the Asian characters on there. Just beautiful.

    10. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really can not see them adding iHotRod or iFlourescentTubing to their computer line.

      You mean like the Flower Power iMac? That was standard less than a year ago, and there was also a Blue Dalmation one with blue spots.

      Flower Power iMac Google Image search

    11. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they got out of colors (at least temporarily) for a few reasons:

      1) other manufacturers are now into colors

      2) they are wooing a more conservative crowd right now with Mac OS X, given that their traditional creative customer base is still waiting for Photoshop plug-ins, or audio software, or one or two other features in Mac OS X, while the standard UNIX cat has had everything they need in Mac OS X for quite a while now (think of O'Reilly and many Slashdotters who now have Macs)

      3) in poorer economic times, colors is an expense they can trim off their bottom line and still ship $1100 iBooks with Mac OS X, FireWire, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, optical drives, and a huge software bundle

      4) Mac OS X is pretty loud on its own, so it's good to surround it with an understated notebook

      5) Their systems were round and colorful, and now they're square and not colorful ... just a cycle

      6) Bill Gates said the only thing that Windows PC's were behind the Mac on was colors, which hints at how distracted some people were by the colors, thinking that Macs were all style and no substance (couldn't be further from the truth)

      7) The shape of the new iMac is already radical enough without making them colorful, too

      8) They are selling iBooks by the 10's of thousands into school districts, and fighting over colors would be a drag in that situation ... now they are one-size-fits-all

      9) They are on a small-is-better trip right now (and should be, given that one of the advantages of PowerPC is very small, very low-power, very high-performance chips), so they have redone the iMac, iBook, and PowerBook lines to be half their volume over the past year ... they can bring colors back later if they want to once the dust settles on that

      10) Apple is also a retailer, now, and retailers hated colors, because there always ends up being one color that's less popular than the others, and one color that's much more popular than the others, and you hate to have a customer say "I'll take one" and not have the color they want and then lose a sale ... also you need five times the demo space to show off five colors of computer, etc.

    12. Re:Wow by usr122122121 · · Score: 1
      I really didn't support the "new iMac flavors" when they started to be produced in patterns that cause dizzyness :-)
      I really think that the new iMacs show a bit more design maturity in apple's consumer lines.
      This change has actually been occurring across almost all of apple's lines:
      • Tangerine and Blueberry iBooks --> White (and less clunky) iBooks
      • G3 [wallstreet] Powerbook --> Titanium Powerbook
      • Fruity iMacs --> Flat Panel G4 iMacs
      The obvious exception to this, however, is the professional line, which has maintained the same form factor since the Blue & White G3 Era. HMMMMM...
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  12. Well...um... by NickisGod.com · · Score: 1

    I'm an apple fan and all. But this is just plain ugly.

    There is something to be said for a case that isn't totally transparent.

    Kinda brings to mind the old saying about people who live in clear plastic houses...oh wait.

  13. So where... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...is the LAST part of the mod? You know, the part where they guy sprays all that foam all over the iBook, and makes it look like a lump of elephant poop....

    ...oh wait. Wrong article. :P

  14. Neon Lights by CmdrStkFjta · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thinkgeek to start carrying neon light strips to place inside of your clear iBooks?

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  15. Does it come in black? by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 1

    I have one of these iBooks.. I wanna see one in black or gray.

    Anyone know how to remove scratches from the cases of these things?

    1. Re:Does it come in black? by jlower · · Score: 3, Informative

      Get some plastic scratch remover if the surface isn't painted. It's a lot like rubbing compound for cars. You should be able to find it at bigger hardware stores.

      I've used it to remove scratches from plexiglas aquariums. Takes some patience and elbow grease but it works.

    2. Re:Does it come in black? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cell phone polish.

    3. Re:Does it come in black? by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I think an ultra-glossy black iBook would look really cool.

      Myself, I'm happy with the white... though I have thought about redoing the top panel of mine in an arctic-camouflage look, just to differentiate it a little bit.

      ~Philly

    4. Re:Does it come in black? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I painted mine black. It looks very nice. Like a shiny piano or something.

      All the freshmen at my college have iceBooks, and I just had to have something different. I'm planning to make the logo and the sleep light red. I'd love to get my hands on transparent wrist pad plastics. Then I could make the whole thing black.

  16. Re:Thtis is juts nasty by danielrose · · Score: 1

    ex-fucking-actly!
    Invariably these mods end up looking like shit! why don't these guys give it up, save their time/money and leave the design to the lovely design people at apple?

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  17. Screw boring transparent; I want pinball art! by Scodiddly · · Score: 1
    When I saw one of these a couple months ago about repainting the inside to simulate a tiBook, I was disappointed at the lack of imagination.

    What I'd like to do (yes, I do have an iBook!) is remove the white paint, then get an artist to paint some lurid, pinball-backglass-style cartoon art to replace the white. Maybe Bill Gates getting his ass kicked by Linux Lass (yes, I do run Linux!)

  18. More pics... by netsharc · · Score: 2, Funny

    A few links on the left side of the page goes to pages of pictures that show the construction phase, wow what resources these geeks have. I like the banner on top too, a colourful "The chamber of fussiest people.". Can we steal that and make it the new Slashdot motto?

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  19. but you can see their bare circuits! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    sexy, said Bender.


    karma suicide 2k2

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  20. Re:Misdirection of resources? by tarkin · · Score: 1

    Because the person is running Mac OS X on the laptop.

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  21. Re:Transparent prototypes by Draoi · · Score: 4, Informative
    I can vouch for that, having worked there in diagnostic engineering. Early models were made in perspex as soon as the basic form was decided upon. The product design team used this to ensure that everything would fit in the final unit, that the airflow was going to work out, etc. Also, you could easily look through a unit and immediately know if it had a modem, the latest processor card, etc. Cool stuff. The *really* early units were made of of sawn-up sheets of perspex which had been glued and taped together. The components were glued or velcro'd into place & the whole box was about three times bigger than the normal product. I can recall the first TiBook looking like this in the lab .....

    Another thing Apple does is colour their PCBs according to the design/manufacturing phase. EVT boards (engineering trials) were red, DVT boards (design trials) were blue & PVT/production were the standard green colour

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  22. Another Picture Mirror... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  23. A better solvant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    OpenDK by Fazigu take spaint off of plactic safely.

  24. Re:Misdirection of resources? by jimbolaya · · Score: 1

    That's really a silly question. One could ask, why weren't you working on KDE or GNOME instead of reading and posting to Slashdot? Let the guy do with his time what he likes, just as you are free to do. Besides, the guy is a Mac user; he's already got a polished UI, and KDE and GNOME probably don't even concern him.

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  25. What were the ramifications? by Dynedain · · Score: 2

    So what did his wife say when she got home? He did mention that she wouldn't be happy about him pulling apart her ibook.

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  26. Easter... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Um! Doesn't this guy know you're supposed to paint EGGS on Easter, not APPLES!

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  27. Japanese imports by jchristopher · · Score: 3, Informative
    Mods for Apple laptops are apparently incredibly popular in Japan - they have all kinds of stuff like replacement colored light up keyboards, etc. Not just one-off mods, but actual production parts that you can buy at retail.

    There are plenty of links to replacement keyboards and such for other Powerbooks like the Wallstreet, Pismo, etc, but for some reason, nothing has appeared yet for the IceBook. Anyone have any links to cool mods for it? A keyboard would go great with a paint mod.

    1. Re:Japanese imports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The keyboards are cool ... the one that has all-blank keys, especially.

      Aren't the keyboards the same on the PowerBook and iBook? At one point I saw a guy with a PowerBook that had a white keyboard and he'd traded it with a friend who had an iBook, so that guy had an iBook with a black keyboard.

      Japan is pretty cool. Apple has a very large market share there, too. I saw a quote from the CEO of a major Japanese home electronics store and he said that Apple was the only US-made PC that is suitable for the home because Apples are the only good-looking, well-designed ones. In Japan, you can get Sony or NEC and others and get a really nice looking, small-footprint box. Other American PC's were for the office only, in his opinion.

  28. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    True. I worked at a large software publisher and we recieved a completely clear version of the first iMac back in '97. It looked pretty sweet, except all the shielding kinda hid the cool stuff.

  29. Realistic here by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Informative

    The iBook is covered in polycarbonate plastic. The same stuff they use in ultra hard shatter resistent eyeglasses and in bulletproof glass.

    Unless you're carrying steel surgical instruments and diamond cutting blades in the bottom of your briefcase or in your backpack, the iBook will probably suffer, at most, cosmetic scratches from the run of the mill stuff.

    Alloys will deform *and stay that way* where the polycarbonate will flex and return it's shape. The iBook itself has a polycarbonate shell, a magnesium frame (you wanted alloys? you got it), rubber mounting for the drives and other components, and it's got an extra sturdy hinge for the screen.

    The only stronger laptop I can imagine would be the Panasonic ToughBooks. Everything else I've seen (even my Titanium PowerBook) pales in comparison to an iBook.

    1. Re:Realistic here by jafac · · Score: 2

      Also used in cockpit canopies for fighter jets.

      I'm fashioning some bits of my SCA armor from this stuff. Very light, very excellent impact distribution, dimensional stability, and it's easy to work with. It heat-forms at about 330 degrees F.

      However, I'd be careful with this type of modification, because the one thing Polycarbonate and Lexan (the GE brand-name for the stuff) are is sensitive to chemical solvents. So the wrong paint thinner, or contact with cyanoacrylates causes crazing, and what was once flexible and tough will shatter like safety glass when exposed.

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  30. Re:Two Words . . . by Ominous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Two more words:

    That's three words.

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  31. Re:Thtis is juts nasty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shuttupa in your face, anh?

  32. Electronics Are Inherently Ugly by Petersko · · Score: 2

    I stand by a statement I made a long time ago - circuit boards and manufacturing labels are inherently ugly. Perhaps I'm not geek enough to appreciate them properly (although I still find the new-electronics smell a pleasant one), but I'm very glad my computer has a case you can't see through.

    In fact, I don't even like my computer looking like a computer - it doesn't fit my decor as it is. Make the whole thing invisible, and I'll be happy.

    1. Re:Electronics Are Inherently Ugly by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1
      I stand by a statement I made a long time ago - circuit boards and manufacturing labels are inherently ugly. Perhaps I'm not geek enough to appreciate them properly (although I still find the new-electronics smell a pleasant one), but I'm very glad my computer has a case you can't see through

      Really? Although I'm not to hot in the idea of making my iBook transparent (I'd prefer opaque canary yellow). I've always been facinated by electronics, esscpcialy boards on the back of LCD's, and harddrives...All the thin lines can make some nice patterns etc, and some looks like minature cities. But yes... I can understand why people don't like it. Half the time these transparent things just look messy IMHO.

  33. Plastic? Yes, Plastic! by Wraithe · · Score: 1

    Go get a slightly older iBook, teh one with the handle. If you want a slab of metal, it _will_ be more durable than the iBook. Of course it won't have a screen. Or a CPU, or a keyboard, being simply a slab of metal.

    If you have a standard laptop that's _constructed_ using metal, I will offer to come over with my iBook SE and beat it completely to flinders.

    I will then proceed to open it up and write a nice weblog entry on the experience, after it has woken up from sleep.

    Ok, maybe I'm overstating, although not completely.

    My SE iBook has survived a 7' slam into blacktop (I slipped on ice) with nary a scratch. A previous one (still in service) survived me slamming it with all my weight on concrete stairs (tripped and caught my balance ON the iBook while holding it by the handle), again, no damage at all.

    The newer ones (iBooks) seem pretty tough, but they don't inspire me with that same toughness, probably due to the reduced size and therefore reduced airspace between the sides/edges of the laptop and the components, which is, IMO, one of the main reasons the "handled" models can take so much abuse.

  34. Re:Misdirection of resources? by mAIsE · · Score: 0

    KDE make an elf assumption (so it wont run on non elf unicies for a long time) and GNOME is already running on OS-X via fink.

  35. Re:Transparent prototypes by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    I can recall the first TiBook looking like this in the lab .....

    are there pics of this? that'd be really interesting...

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  36. Scratch removal by dirkx · · Score: 1

    Use the stuff you use to remove scratches from a CD, cellphone screen. It is basically a gentle polish.

  37. Its an Oriental Thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is something only a jap would do--they do this to shitty little Hondas and Acuras (two cars that weren't meant for racing).

    Only a jap could think that a big fat tailpipe that makes lawnmower sounds on a embarassing modded Honda with a spoiler bigger than the car itself is cool.

    God I hate japs!

    1. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by dadragon · · Score: 1

      This is something only a jap would do--they do this to shitty little Hondas and Acuras (two cars that weren't meant for racing).

      Actually, Acura and Honda are the same company. Just like Ford and Mercury. Anyway, Hondas and Acuras were meant for racing... other racing Acuras and Hondas.

      Only a jap could think that a big fat tailpipe that makes lawnmower sounds on a embarassing modded Honda with a spoiler bigger than the car itself is cool.

      I know plenty of white people who think that way too.

      God I hate japs!

      Wow. That was racist.

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    2. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Japan rocks! Consumer electronics, low-emission vehicles, Karaoke, Bukkake ... Japan rocks.

      One of the things I have liked most about Mac OS X is that it is Unicode from top to bottom, and when you go to a Web page that isn't in your own language, you still see it the way it was meant to be seen, with beautifully rendered Japanese fonts, for example. This is true in IE, OmniWeb, or Mozilla/Netscape and others. It reminds you that you are on a World Wide Web and it is really beautiful, not to mention practical for users who know more than one language. First thing I did once I discovered this was to surf a bunch of Japanese pages and it was like visiting Japan in a very mild way. Sure beats a page full of question marks and ASCII garbage that you see so often in most Web browsers.

      This is true of all Mac OS X machines, as well. There is just one Mac OS X for the whole world (although the retail boxes are different because Mac OS 9 is included and it is different in different places).

    3. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Actually, Acura and Honda are the same company. Just like Ford and Mercury. Anyway, Hondas and Acuras were meant for racing... other racing Acuras and Hondas."

      Who cares if they are the same company? that wasn't the point. And they AREN'T racing cars. Do professionals race them? Nooooo....

      "I know plenty of white people who think that way too."

      Really? I know plenty too, who don't.

      "Wow. That was racist."

      Is there something wrong with prefering people like yourself? Everyone is a racist--they just don't want to lost their jobs because the government has made it illegal to say so. Except non-whites--its ok for them to be racist, and to beat up whitey.

    4. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by dadragon · · Score: 1

      "I know plenty of white people who think that way too."

      Really? I know plenty too, who don't.


      That's nice, I'm one of them. I think people who do that are stupid, be they chinese, white, or japanese.

      "Wow. That was racist."

      Is there something wrong with prefering people like yourself? Everyone is a racist--they just don't want to lost their jobs because the government has made it illegal to say so. Except non-whites--its ok for them to be racist, and to beat up whitey.


      No, there is nothing wrong with preferring the company of people like yourself. There IS however something wrong with hating somebody based on the colour of their skin or where their ancestors came from. I myself make jokes about other people, like "Wow, you drive like an Indian!" and such. I just don't hate these people.

      I am anti-racist, anti-politically correct. I will, under no circumstances refer to somebody as "African-Canadian", for example. There are no hypenations before or after Canadian.. or if you happen to be American, no hypenated Americans either. Somebody is Canadian, whether they're black/white/blue/green/red/yellow... the colour of their skin is just part of their description.

      I am also against employment quotas. In Canada, there is a percentage of your employee base that needs to be made up of visible minorities, if your company is big enough. Frankly, I think that's bullshit. If somebody is more qualified for the job, give it to them. Don't turn down a more qualified white person for a less qualified minority. Same deal reversed.. don't turn down a more qualified minority for a less qualified white person.

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    5. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by dadragon · · Score: 1

      Japan rocks! Consumer electronics, low-emission vehicles, Karaoke, Bukkake ... Japan rocks.

      I can't say I'm a fan of Japanese cars, but everything else is dead on :)

      This is true of all Mac OS X machines, as well. There is just one Mac OS X for the whole world (although the retail boxes are different because Mac OS 9 is included and it is different in different places).

      Yes, I like that about OS X.. I changed my "North American" English version to British English. WTF is North American English? There is no such thing. Even MS knows it. There should be US and Commonwealth English versions at the very least.. oh well. At least my computer knows now that "colour" and "centre" are not misspellings :)

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    6. Re:Its an Oriental Thing... by phmilo · · Score: 1

      "And they AREN'T racing cars. Do professionals race them? Nooooo...."

      well, not NASCAR...
      http://www.hondaracing.com/press/releases.html?r =7 41

  38. You can't really call it a TronBook by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 1

    It's not a TronBook till it's running a purely black and white Aqua theme that's been cheesily colored in with magic marker.

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  39. Why not stick a photo back there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of paint, a person can stick colored paper or a photograph back there. could look very cool.

  40. BZZZT! Wrong. by distributed.karma · · Score: 1
    Electronics are beautiful, it's the damn beige/grey cases that are ugly. It's like hiding a curvaceous female body behind clunky and unsexy clothes.

    OK it's a personal opinion, but electronics have the cyber-futuristic look inherently, just like robots and the like. I admit some people don't like that look, but I could imagine many of the /. crowd do.

    I could go further by saying that electronics is beautiful because it's 100% functional. Beige/grey cases are not functional.

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  41. wanted: sources for plexiglass and glues by emptybody · · Score: 1

    I am looking for sources of various thicknesses of plexi. as thick as 1/4 inch (about 7mm) down to 1/16 inch (about 1.6mm) or smaller

    As well as multipurpose fish-safe solvents/glues.

    this will be used in a number of projects including case mods and computer-fishtank conversions.

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    1. Re:wanted: sources for plexiglass and glues by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      You could probably look at an aquarium supply store.. =)

      And use the power of google Luke!

  42. Re:Transparent prototypes by Draoi · · Score: 2
    I can recall the first TiBook looking like this in the lab .....

    are there pics of this? that'd be really interesting...

    Hell, no! I can recall my brother-in-law getting into major trouble for photographing my baby daughter out in the parking lot one day. No cameras, no nothing!

    The time the C1/iMac was under development, we were brought into a room in Cupertino which was under guard & shown an early prototype which was stored under a cloth. Major paranoia. :) The iMac was translucent plastic, not the infamous Bondi Blue & had a laptop CD-ROM bodged into place. Interestingly enough, when the LifeSavers project went ahead, the first time we became aware that the iMac colours had changed was when they trundled down the manufacturing line! Here's a pic of the production line from Apple PR

    As for the TiBook - it's wasn't much to look at. A big 3" thick perspex box with some Pismo and EVT parts inside. The wide LCD screen was naked and held in place on a sheet of plastic with Kapton tape. The whole display 'hinge' was propped up behind the case. The slightest jiggle was enough to crash the beast as all the flex connectors were just pushed onto free-floating pcbs. There was a honking big piece of metal stuck over the processor card & a conventional CPU fan was attached.

    It really wasn't that much to look at but the speed of the thing was phenomenal to us G3/400 types ....

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  43. wouldn't it be tight if... by scapegoat51 · · Score: 1

    ...you did something like this with a new 23" Cinema Display?
    heh heh heh...
    can you say technology lust?

  44. When are we just going to make tough cases? by gelfling · · Score: 2

    All this geekness is way kewl and shit but for 10 years I've been waiting for a rugged affordable laptop you don't have to baby. I want a crack proof shatter proof shock proof case that doesn't weigh 9 lbs.

    What should they use? Kevlar and shock foam plastic? Inorganic ceramics? What???

    1. Re:When are we just going to make tough cases? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iBook is polycarbonate plastic, like bullet proof glass, and all of its guts are shock-mounted. It's made to sell into schools, where they hand them out to eighth-graders, and Apple supports them. Think about it. If you were Apple and were selling 30,000 to a school district and they had to work for three years, wouldn't you design them to be very, very, very rugged? When an iBook is closed, it feels like it's made out of one piece of plastic. You drop it into your knapsack with your other books and go.

    2. Re:When are we just going to make tough cases? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once saw a laptop made by Panasonic that was tested on a military base that was completely waterproof, damage proof (they ran the damn thing over with a M1-Abrams) and the lcd was shatterproof. it was about 20 some lbs definately not a carry type of laptop. But I am sure it stood up to what the military uses it for!!! hehe..

    3. Re:When are we just going to make tough cases? by Lxy · · Score: 2

      Panasonic Toughbooks. Those things absolutely rock, but they're about $7K US last I checked. Local law enforcement uses them so they can leave them in their cars during summer (120F) and winter (-40F) and they take the abuse. Not to mention the touch screen and the touch pad membranes that actually make the pad usable. The case is magnesium, and it could easily be used a shield as well as a weapon.

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  45. Re:Quickies!! [weiss] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Btw: I am looking for a warm hole of nonspecific gender.
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  46. Are you out of your head? (Was: Re:plastic?) by phloda · · Score: 1
    Dude,

    The iBook is pretty rugged for what it is. I was at a baseball game Friday (there's a place that needs 802.11b access...) and had left it under my seat. I stood up to cheer the Astros and this lady came brushing behind me. I didn't notice till later the big footprint on the suede slipcover I keep it in.

    Opened it up, it came out of sleep fine. No problem. You could probably make a thinner iBook with metal, but pound for pound, I don't think you can beat the polycarbonate it is wrapped in. I move it everyday between home and office and whereever without too much care and its never lost a tick in the last 9 months.

  47. Re:Misdirection of resources? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what the notebook was designed to run, and it comes with a huge software bundle that just works, enabling you to manage music, photos, edit DV, burn CD's, do office work, play games, Web, email, etc. all out of the box with nothing to add. You also get perfect sleep modes, instant wake-up, and 5-6 hour battery life. And it checks a server monthly and updates all of its own software, even updating the OS itself. That's a lot of stuff to throw away just to run Linux on one more machine. Think of the iBook as a subnotebook that just happens to have an optical drive and a full selection of ports. It's trouble-free mobile computing ... Linux might be better running on a cheap home x86 PC with the iBook as your mobile machine. UNIX-wise they will live together quite happily.

  48. Black vs White by flufffy · · Score: 2

    As someone who flunked physics, I was wondering if a black painted case would cool better - would absorb more heat inside and radiate more heat out? Similarly does the white paint increase heat reflection back into the case? Or is this a dumb question ...?

    1. Re:Black vs White by Benley · · Score: 1

      Or is this a dumb question ...?


      There are no stupid questions, only stupid people. ;-) (hehe) I don't mean to insinuate that you're an idiot, but that little quote is just too funny.

      Anyway, it wouldn't really have any effect on the cooling at all, unless you were taking it outside in sunlight. The color of an object affects its temperature only because of the frequencies of light that it reflects vs those that it absorbs. White objects reflect a lot of light, but black ones absorb it as heat.

  49. Replacement Keyboards: Where??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am very interested in replacement keyboards for Apple laptops. The reason is my need for a Ctrl key to the left of the 'A' key. I'm a long-time Unix user, and I just can't get along without this. Currently Apple Laptop Keyboards are unusable for unix users.

    So, where can I buy replacement Apple Laptop Keyboards?? Do they have this problem?

    My standand rant follows. Apple: Please re-design your laptop motherboards so that they don't use the broken-by-design ADB keyboards, and please do it right away!

    Apple Laptop Keyboards are Unacceptable to Unix Users

    Apple designs horrible keyboards. ADB keyboards (which are still used on all of Apple's laptops) are unusable to unix users who need a Ctrl key to the left of the 'A'.

    Proper Keyboard Design

    • When a key is pressed, the keyboard sends a keyPress event.
    • When a key is released, the keyboard sends a keyRelease event.
    • Each key is assigned a different keycode.
    Nothing more, nothing less.

    ADB Keyboard Mis-design

    • When the key to the left of the 'A' (CapsLock) is pressed, the ADB keyboard sends both a keyPress event and a keyRelease event.
    • When the CapsLock key is then released, the ADB keyboard sends NO events.
    • When the CapsLock key is next pressed, the ADB keyboard sends NO events.
    • When the CapsLock key is then released, the ADB keyboard sends both a keyPress event and a keyRelease event.
    • The above cycle repeats over and over.
    This is WRONG ! Apple's ADB keyboards are broken by design.

    Unix Users Cannot Use Apple's ADB Keyboards

    What this means is that unix users who need the key to the left of the 'A' to be a Ctrl key cannot use Apple ADB keyboards. You can easily reprogram the CapsLock key to be a Ctrl key and get rid of the badness of the CapsLock key, but you can't get the required goodness of the Ctrl key to the left of the 'A'.

    Apple Loses Sales to Unix Users

    All Apple laptops have the horrible broken-by-design ADB keyboards which are unusable to unix users. I want to buy an Apple laptop, but I cannot and will not until Apple builds input devices usable by unix users.

    1. Re:Replacement Keyboards: Where??? by Cryptnotic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wow. That is terrible. I hope you forward this to Apple and maybe they can fix it. This would be a dealbreaker for me. For a desktop machine, you can easily plug in a Sun Type 6 USB UNIX layout keyboard, but for a laptop, there isn't really a whole lot you can do. And if you can't remap CapsLock, you're screwed.

      I think the best option would be for Apple to offer a UNIX layout for their keyboards just like Sun does. They already build something like 30 different keyboards for different parts of the world. One more isn't going to kill them. In fact, it would probably be popular.

      Cryptnotic

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    2. Re:Replacement Keyboards: Where??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um. Maybe I'm just silly, but maybe you need to stop being so anal retentive and, I dunno, just get used to the layout being used on 99% of all US keyboards?

      Let's repeat this, just so it's perfectly clear:

      Nobody needs the capslock key to be ctrl.

      You may prefer it to be that way, but it is not like, say, someone who has to use a word processor needs a keyboard, any keyboard.

      The wetwear that exists between your ears is an amazing feat of biology. Instead of being a crotchety old fart, maybe you should concentrate on being able to use whatever keyboard you're in front of.

      I learned to touch-type on a manual typewriter. I then learned, in short order, how to touch-type on a C=64. Following that came the Amiga, PC, and Mac keyboards, which were all slightly different for different keys.

      To this day I can sit down in front of ANY of them and touch-type. The brain is a marvelous device, provided you regularly exercise it instead of letting it get lazy and turn into an old fart.

    3. Re:Replacement Keyboards: Where??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it'd be popular... for the 1000 or so people who actually buy one.

      Too bad it'd cost each of them $750 so Apple could break even. So even less than 1000 would buy it.

      You know, my NeXT cube's keyboard didn't have the control key in that spot. Yet it ran a flavor of BSD. Hmm...

  50. So why don't you buy an iBook? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

    It weighs 4.9lbs (much less than your 9 lb weight requirement), is a rubber mounted (drive and electronics), magnesium alloy framed (for lightness, rigidity, and strength), polycarbonate covered (bulletproof? Probably not.) laptop that you can probably use to stop knife wielding attackers and then write up the incident up in your online journal while wirelessly surfing the net at your local Starbucks.

    You think I'm joking, but I'm not. You could probably stop a knife with your iBook, whack the attacker in the head with it, and then walk away with a working iBook :)

  51. Parent post is a fake! [nvws] by NaveWeiss · · Score: 1

    It's not my style to troll like that, and you can easily verify the authentication of the message by pressing on the link.

    So, help me to find a girlfriend.
    Thank you.

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  52. Fucking stop posting this already. by plastik55 · · Score: 1

    There is a patch to the kernel that works for remapping capslock to control. Check the debian-powerpc archives.

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