No but if I want to put together a list of sites and documents on the internet related to a particular topic and then sell that list (ie. research) to someone else for the time and effort... would it be right for google to prevent me from doing this just because I'm using their search engines?
Wealth measured in stock is purely a matter of belief and confidence.
Wealth measured in "anything" is purely a matter of belief and confidence. The only difference is that individual stocks are typically more unstable, though stocks in general are not.
Maybe the reason there are so few "good" movies and so few "good" books and so few "good" TV shows is that, at the end of the day, we can't handle too many good things at once?
10 years ago as an undergrad I began watching the web phenomenon unfold and rejoiced as sites like Alta VIsta, Yahoo, Slashdot, mags like Wired etc., online news services began to grow and churn out content... then (for me) came quake, irc, streaming audio, streaming video(!!), mp3s, the list goes on..
.. then something strange happened. I stopped looking. Occasionally I'll do a search on something specific... even more occasionally I'll just browse. But by and large... I go to slashdot once a day now.. check my local news service once or twice a day and thats about it.
Once you get into a routine you become passive... and even though 1000 new wonderful things are out there... you lose the motivation to go and find them.
The first issue is the ethics of taking a botched update and using it as a full install, without previously having a licensed version.
The second issue is the ethics of writing about the fact that the update was, in fact, botched, and the subsequent response from Apple.
I very much doubt that Apple has a legal leg to stand on... but, as usual, it comes down to the fact that if you can't afford to get sued, let alone lose the suit, then you've already lost.
...The GATT imposes IP protection on its signatories. TRIPS expands the provision. Both are international regulatory conventions, not US conventions. No country was forced to sign either document.
no... but its a bit like signing an agreement with Microsoft. you can either play by "our" rules or not play at all... it's your choice.
In the case of sites like Yahoo and other major sites with mirrors everywhere... would it be cheaper for me to view the same content on an australian server as opposed to a US server?
given the strength of the US dollar... foreign participation in US content sites would dry up overnight and the services they provide would be replicated locally.
Kinda defeats the purpose of the all pervasive, access from anywhere Internet if you've got to check your conversion rates every time you switch pages....
Banning weapons is a foolish premise. First of all, we have a term for countries where only the police and military are armed: police states.
Well good for you.
I, however, live in Australia, where we have strict gun controls in place - and to be honest I'd only be happier if they tightened them.
Our democracy is not threatened as a result of my not being able to carry a gun.
I also have the added advantage of being able to send my children to school, without the fear that some fucked up 3 year old is going to take out half the class with an assault rifle because some other 3 year took his chocolate milk.
The next time you face a school massacre, you be sure to ignore the reality of the situation and go and recite to families of the dead kids
"Our founding fathers, having just overthrown an oppressive, tyrannical, and corrupt government wanted to insure that they and their decendents would retain the ability to do so again in the future if it became necessary: "
Uh huh, and, assuming this event arose, you're going to pick up your BB gun and go head to head with the US military... you sound like someone else I've heard of... what was his name? Osama something or other...
The United States has a lot going for it, but when it comes to gun control, you are seriously choking on your own rhetoric.
Is a tape music or software?
Is a floppy disk music or software?
The media that something resides on does not change the identity of what it is. Therefore a DVD-based movie is still a movie.
..and to finish the point - a DVD-ROM computer game is still a piece of software.
If I were fighting this I'd be spending a lot of
time looking at the marketing practices of Warner Bros... How are they marketing it? As movie?
or a piece of software?
"Collateral damage..." what a fucked up saying that is...basically, it means those people who had no involvment whatsoever in the argument taking place but SOMEHOW WOUND UP DEAD!!
If you flip the coin... the 5000 people who died at the World Trade Center are collateral damage from yet another argument...
collateral damage = tragic victims - perspective differentiates the two.
Micheal should look to the SAS's exploits in Iraq in '91 and the Desert Rats in '40-'41 for examples of what a small cadre of highly trained and motivated fighters can do againt increadable odds.
Your comments could also apply to the people already fighting in Afgahnistan, and equally to Bin Laden and the World Trade Center catasrophe...
Who would have thought that 15-20 highly motivated men could bring one of the largest cities in the world to its knees; and cause a minor heart attack in the economy of world's only remaining superpower?
We recently purchased two laptops - one was Dell, the other was a Toshiba Satellite Pro...
The Toshiba power supply broke and upon getting it fixed, the Toshiba rep. told us that we had definitely voided the warranty because we had installed Win 2K over the top of Win 98.
The Dell guy told us we most definitely had voided the warranty on the Dell laptop because we had upgraded the RAM from 128Mb to 256Mb...
As niether modification had anything to do with their respective problems, we told both companies that they'd most definitely end up in court if we had to pay to get them fixed (both were ~2 weeks old), and the issues were resolved... but not without a lot of pain.
The original statement was:
I can respect your opinion, but you said it yourself - you are not a US citizen. So, really, there's no way you can possibly know how people living in the US feel right now.
and my response was:
Of course... because as we all know... the US is the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT HAS HAD TO SUFFER THROUGH TERRORISM!!!!
But, then, does it really matter much anyway?.com.au doesn't seem like prime internet real-estate anyway and there are more TLDs on the way, as well as numerous "slightly used".com domains.
It matters a whole lot in the courts when it comes to trademark protection etc. As happened with the etoy/etoys saga, what would you rather be? An Australian company going up against a US company in a US court, or an Australian company going up against a US company in an Australian court?
With commercialization came lower costs and greater access. So while the proportion of content has become less democratic, the number of people who have been given the opportunity to access it has become more.
...not only access. Those same people can contribute content themselves if they have the inclination.
Another point is that, if I'm restoring a 1952 Morris Minor and I come across a site by another guy who has restored a '52 Minor, is that information somehow less valuable because the sites only ever had 600 hits? Not to me!
Usage stats in are only partially relevant to revaling peoples interests as you first need to establish which sites provide general interest content and which sites provide specific interest content.
The specific interest sites will invariably have lower hit rates, but the information they can contain is arguably more valuable to the viewer.
I'm an Austrlian and I also believe that the ruling is bad. But then, its hardly the first *bad* court decision in Australia or the US.
- A 16 year old norwegian kid vs the MPAA..
- The FBI hacking computers in Russia..
- Etoy vs etoys..
- Civil Lawsuit in a district law court against the entire country of Iran. Proceeds taken from frozen assets.
As usual, the typically American slashdot crowd slams all of Australia and its political system
based on the decision of one judge(which can still be overturned on appeal) and conveniently fails to draw comparisons to the actions of its own government.
Various levels of the US justice system routinely step over the mark when handling foreign nations, as it suits.
Australia has its good points and bad points, as does the US. You laugh at our compulsory voting system... we are amazed and shocked that you continue to stand behind your Bill of Rights on gun ownership, when your kids are dying in the hundreds.
To those who put Australia in the same basket as China or Afghanistan, why don't you travel to all three and better educate yourselves (ignorant fucks!!)
It seems to me that any time some upstart tries to extend the web to "what it was supposed to be" one or another large corporation or organisation steps in and buries it.
Is Australia now, we have legislation in place that classifies any piece of audio or video content over 15 seconds as a "broadcast" - which implies that, in Aus., you need a broadcast license to put together any decent multimedia web site.
If you removed any and all commercial sites from the Internet - would we be any worse off?
If you're a home user with a single dialup at a local ISP, that's one thing.. (and I still think you have a right to stable service here as well)
...but if you're a large organisation maintaining a global development infrastructure, and you're paying a telco a couple of $$$K a month, then you should be certainly be entitled to a refund when that service dies and disrupts your business...
...further, if it can be shown that the service died due to incompetence, eg. the service died in the later rounds of Code Red attacks AFTER all of the press and subesquent release of patches etc., then you should be able to sue them for damages.
Large or small, its a service you pay a fee for. If its not your fault, then no service, no fee.
Now, if it was China asking Sony to stop making PS2s in Taiwan, for fear of giving Chinese people access to DVDs... it would almost make sense
(but only just)
I sometimes wonder about the average age of the slashdot crowd these days... either its getting lower or a lot of you were born with spoons in your mouths...
1. Be thankful you work in an industry where your employer thinks enough of you to want to protect you from predatory competitors.
2. Be even more thankful that you work in an industry that contains competitors willing to spend more money to poach you in the first place.
If your biggest worry is that your employer might be "hiding" you from the guy down the road who'll pay you an extra $30K a year to do the same job, then resign and take out full page advert saying you're available...
No? Can't take the chance of losing the security of your current job?
Telstra a better ISP??? Get real...
Telstra are the primary reason we have such shit redundancy in Australia. Just about everything ends up being routed through a Telstra server somewhere, and as with all large monolithic ex-government buearocracies, they do a terrible job of keeping them running.
Any company/government agency that has an adequate Terms of Use statement regarding the use of their email system is covered.
Any company/government agency that does not is in trouble, as they cannot take actions to prevent its misuse and potentially open themselves up to hefty sexual harrassment lawsuits.
Further, as usual the predominantly US based slashdot crowd are quick to hold Australia and Australians up as the culprit for all things evil in IT related matters.
Take a look in your own backyard... DCMA, RIAA, MPAA, software patents are all US creations.
Its the governments that are fucked, not the people, on both sides of the pond.
Slashdot Mirror
No but if I want to put together a list of sites and documents on the internet related to a particular topic and then sell that list (ie. research) to someone else for the time and effort... would it be right for google to prevent me from doing this just because I'm using their search engines?
Wealth measured in stock is purely a matter of belief and confidence.
Wealth measured in "anything" is purely a matter of belief and confidence. The only difference is that individual stocks are typically more unstable, though stocks in general are not.
They won't release the list because there's nothing in it.
Can anyone point to any situation where our (Aus.) Internet censorship laws have actually been enforced ? People charged? ISPs sued for
breaches?
I know of none.
Maybe the reason there are so few "good" movies and so few "good" books and so few "good" TV shows is that, at the end of the day, we can't handle too many good things at once?
10 years ago as an undergrad I began watching the web phenomenon unfold and rejoiced as sites like Alta VIsta, Yahoo, Slashdot, mags like Wired etc., online news services began to grow and churn out content... then (for me) came quake, irc, streaming audio, streaming video(!!), mp3s, the list goes on..
.. then something strange happened. I stopped looking. Occasionally I'll do a search on something specific... even more occasionally I'll just browse. But by and large... I go to slashdot once a day now.. check my local news service once or twice a day and thats about it.
Once you get into a routine you become passive... and even though 1000 new wonderful things are out there... you lose the motivation to go and find them.
This is true...
But there are two issues here.
The first issue is the ethics of taking a botched update and using it as a full install, without previously having a licensed version.
The second issue is the ethics of writing about the fact that the update was, in fact, botched, and the subsequent response from Apple.
I very much doubt that Apple has a legal leg to stand on... but, as usual, it comes down to the fact that if you can't afford to get sued, let alone lose the suit, then you've already lost.
...The GATT imposes IP protection on its signatories. TRIPS expands the provision. Both are international regulatory conventions, not US conventions. No country was forced to sign either document.
no... but its a bit like signing an agreement with Microsoft. you can either play by "our" rules or not play at all... it's your choice.
US Dollar?
Aus. Dollar?
Pound?
Yen?
Rupee?
In the case of sites like Yahoo and other major sites with mirrors everywhere... would it be cheaper for me to view the same content on an australian server as opposed to a US server?
given the strength of the US dollar... foreign participation in US content sites would dry up overnight and the services they provide would be replicated locally.
Kinda defeats the purpose of the all pervasive, access from anywhere Internet if you've got to check your conversion rates every time you switch pages....
An old painting is a work of art...
A new painting is a work of art...
If an old video game is considered a work of art...so is a new computer game.
Age has nothing to do with it.
old comic books?
old board games?
old movies?
old childrens books?
old TV ads?
all have a degree of creativity...
Banning weapons is a foolish premise. First of all, we have a term for countries where only the police and military are armed: police states.
Well good for you.
I, however, live in Australia, where we have strict gun controls in place - and to be honest I'd only be happier if they tightened them.
Our democracy is not threatened as a result of my not being able to carry a gun.
I also have the added advantage of being able to send my children to school, without the fear that some fucked up 3 year old is going to take out half the class with an assault rifle because some other 3 year took his chocolate milk.
The next time you face a school massacre, you be sure to ignore the reality of the situation and go and recite to families of the dead kids
"Our founding fathers, having just overthrown an oppressive, tyrannical, and corrupt government wanted to insure that they and their decendents would retain the ability to do so again in the future if it became necessary: "
Uh huh, and, assuming this event arose, you're going to pick up your BB gun and go head to head with the US military... you sound like someone else I've heard of... what was his name? Osama something or other...
The United States has a lot going for it, but when it comes to gun control, you are seriously choking on your own rhetoric.
Is a tape music or software?
Is a floppy disk music or software?
The media that something resides on does not change the identity of what it is. Therefore a DVD-based movie is still a movie.
..and to finish the point - a DVD-ROM computer game is still a piece of software.
If I were fighting this I'd be spending a lot of
time looking at the marketing practices of Warner Bros... How are they marketing it? As movie?
or a piece of software?
Collateral damage is inevitable, not dreadful.
You're kidding right? Right??
"Collateral damage..." what a fucked up saying that is...basically, it means those people who had no involvment whatsoever in the argument taking place but SOMEHOW WOUND UP DEAD!!
If you flip the coin... the 5000 people who died at the World Trade Center are collateral damage from yet another argument...
collateral damage = tragic victims - perspective differentiates the two.
Micheal should look to the SAS's exploits in Iraq in '91 and the Desert Rats in '40-'41 for examples of what a small cadre of highly trained and motivated fighters can do againt increadable odds.
Your comments could also apply to the people already fighting in Afgahnistan, and equally to Bin Laden and the World Trade Center catasrophe...
Who would have thought that 15-20 highly motivated men could bring one of the largest cities in the world to its knees; and cause a minor heart attack in the economy of world's only remaining superpower?
We recently purchased two laptops - one was Dell, the other was a Toshiba Satellite Pro...
The Toshiba power supply broke and upon getting it fixed, the Toshiba rep. told us that we had definitely voided the warranty because we had installed Win 2K over the top of Win 98.
The Dell guy told us we most definitely had voided the warranty on the Dell laptop because we had upgraded the RAM from 128Mb to 256Mb...
As niether modification had anything to do with their respective problems, we told both companies that they'd most definitely end up in court if we had to pay to get them fixed (both were ~2 weeks old), and the issues were resolved... but not without a lot of pain.
The original statement was:
I can respect your opinion, but you said it yourself - you are not a US citizen. So, really, there's no way you can possibly know how people living in the US feel right now.
and my response was:
Of course... because as we all know... the US is the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT HAS HAD TO SUFFER THROUGH TERRORISM!!!!
see sarcasm...
But, then, does it really matter much anyway? .com.au doesn't seem like prime internet real-estate anyway and there are more TLDs on the way, as well as numerous "slightly used" .com domains.
It matters a whole lot in the courts when it comes to trademark protection etc. As happened with the etoy/etoys saga, what would you rather be? An Australian company going up against a US company in a US court, or an Australian company going up against a US company in an Australian court?
With commercialization came lower costs and greater access. So while the proportion of content has become less democratic, the number of people who have been given the opportunity to access it has become more.
...not only access. Those same people can contribute content themselves if they have the inclination.
Another point is that, if I'm restoring a 1952 Morris Minor and I come across a site by another guy who has restored a '52 Minor, is that information somehow less valuable because the sites only ever had 600 hits? Not to me!
Usage stats in are only partially relevant to revaling peoples interests as you first need to establish which sites provide general interest content and which sites provide specific interest content.
The specific interest sites will invariably have lower hit rates, but the information they can contain is arguably more valuable to the viewer.
I'm an Austrlian and I also believe that the ruling is bad. But then, its hardly the first *bad* court decision in Australia or the US.
- A 16 year old norwegian kid vs the MPAA..
- The FBI hacking computers in Russia..
- Etoy vs etoys..
- Civil Lawsuit in a district law court against the entire country of Iran. Proceeds taken from frozen assets.
As usual, the typically American slashdot crowd slams all of Australia and its political system
based on the decision of one judge(which can still be overturned on appeal) and conveniently fails to draw comparisons to the actions of its own government.
Various levels of the US justice system routinely step over the mark when handling foreign nations, as it suits.
Australia has its good points and bad points, as does the US. You laugh at our compulsory voting system... we are amazed and shocked that you continue to stand behind your Bill of Rights on gun ownership, when your kids are dying in the hundreds.
To those who put Australia in the same basket as China or Afghanistan, why don't you travel to all three and better educate yourselves (ignorant fucks!!)
..even in Cyberspace.
It seems to me that any time some upstart tries to extend the web to "what it was supposed to be" one or another large corporation or organisation steps in and buries it.
Is Australia now, we have legislation in place that classifies any piece of audio or video content over 15 seconds as a "broadcast" - which implies that, in Aus., you need a broadcast license to put together any decent multimedia web site.
If you removed any and all commercial sites from the Internet - would we be any worse off?
If you're a home user with a single dialup at a local ISP, that's one thing.. (and I still think you have a right to stable service here as well)
...but if you're a large organisation maintaining a global development infrastructure, and you're paying a telco a couple of $$$K a month, then you should be certainly be entitled to a refund when that service dies and disrupts your business...
...further, if it can be shown that the service died due to incompetence, eg. the service died in the later rounds of Code Red attacks AFTER all of the press and subesquent release of patches etc., then you should be able to sue them for damages.
Large or small, its a service you pay a fee for. If its not your fault, then no service, no fee.
Now, if it was China asking Sony to stop making PS2s in Taiwan, for fear of giving Chinese people access to DVDs... it would almost make sense (but only just)
Now you get it... there are no other providers.
I sometimes wonder about the average age of the slashdot crowd these days... either its getting lower or a lot of you were born with spoons in your mouths...
1. Be thankful you work in an industry where your employer thinks enough of you to want to protect you from predatory competitors.
2. Be even more thankful that you work in an industry that contains competitors willing to spend more money to poach you in the first place.
If your biggest worry is that your employer might be "hiding" you from the guy down the road who'll pay you an extra $30K a year to do the same job, then resign and take out full page advert saying you're available...
No? Can't take the chance of losing the security of your current job?
Life's like that.
Telstra a better ISP??? Get real... Telstra are the primary reason we have such shit redundancy in Australia. Just about everything ends up being routed through a Telstra server somewhere, and as with all large monolithic ex-government buearocracies, they do a terrible job of keeping them running.
Sorry Tim, but that's bullshit.
Any company/government agency that has an adequate Terms of Use statement regarding the use of their email system is covered.
Any company/government agency that does not is in trouble, as they cannot take actions to prevent its misuse and potentially open themselves up to hefty sexual harrassment lawsuits.
Further, as usual the predominantly US based slashdot crowd are quick to hold Australia and Australians up as the culprit for all things evil in IT related matters.
Take a look in your own backyard... DCMA, RIAA, MPAA, software patents are all US creations.
Its the governments that are fucked, not the people, on both sides of the pond.