Dude, seriously. I'm not trying to troll here. Can I get some honest first-hand accounts of its actual phone, SMS and voicemail capability/reliability from any AT&T customers using this thing in the greater Los Angeles Area? Any luck with actual 3g network access would be nice to hear about as well.
Thats what I heard, however said other company would need to spend some considerable effort and money in addressing some serious hardware design flaws as well as what is now nearly obsoleted network support before the phone is once again viable as a phone.
Only has the older, slower 2G technology, doesn't have 3G.
... and with AT&T poised to roll out 4G already and rumors of already crappy service using the OpenMoko on AT&T networks before that it seemed doomed from the start. Personally I would have bought one anyway if it wasn't for the forum posts I read suggesting that the phone boots Debian great and runs anything in the ARM port but had such abysmal audio quality you could barely actually use it for a phone. Basic functionality was clearly a neglected priority.:(
Traditional Unix curriculum switching over to *yawn* Microsoft funded curriculum... *yaaawn*... I'm just getting tired of saying it. Of course the education is to blame. And guess whose "black box" software is to blame for the shitty hands-off education? Guess! I dare you.
He is and he's absolutely right - that would be completely fair. However he's forgotten that its a legal system we have in place not a justice system. The system just simply isn't built for complete fairness, and that is a problem in itself.
... is that not only are you completely right, you're also one of the few (perhaps 2% at most) of the entire consumer base (which of course includes law makers) that even would notice such a trend in PR practices in general. The bulk of the rest of the population either doesn't care enough to pay attention or isn't smart enough to.
I hate to say it, but realmolo is probably right. Odds on "weapons of mass destruction" being found in Sweden sometime in the very near future just shot up by 1000%.
Wow you're an idiot and you don't understand email. He's using the TARGET address to blacklist the IP ADDRESS from the SMTP CONNECTION. That's the envelope sender, not the mail header's return address.
Do your research before you start casting wild allegations around.
I'll second that. Joomla is evil. Its designed to be bad so that you get stuck in it like quicksand then have to pay to get yourself out. Comments on their website claiming excitement about how its "good" should carefully be examined for age of post and reply count.
Why would I - an open source advocate - suggest such a thing? Simple; Forcing people to use and learn from Linux (and thereby allowing Linux to learn from them in turn) is better than passively letting them steal MicroSoft products they can't afford which only improves MicroSoft's ability to leverage their installation base in illegally (in the US at least) anti-competitive practices. This will force MicroSoft to price their software at what its worth or make it worth what they charge.
Why would I claim to be a benevolent person who cares for the good of humanity with such apparently cruel intentions as forcing users to use Linux unwillingly? That answer is also simple but if you don't already know it then it is pointless for me to state it.
You're missing the point. Don't call people incompetent just because you don't understand or agree with the ideology - which in this case is what they're "believing" in, not licenses or tools or gods.
Actually if you watch enough of the DS9 episodes you get a definite feel for exactly what you're describing; The Federation was generally to the non-Federation entities seen as very much a fascist empire-building dictatorship under the thin guise of diplomacy and scientific exploration. This isn't something you see so much in the other series because the events therein are centered almost entirely around the lives of a single relatively isolated crew of Federation officers.
And they were "science vessels," but FWIW blowing shit up with photon torpedoes *can* be very helpful for scientific research.:-D (see the plot lines for Star Trek II and Star Trek III for a notable reference to those of you who don't know what I'm talking about but actually care to)
Those "training costs" arguments are at least 99% bullshit though. You ever had an office job? How many of those people really know their way around MS Office? I've got news for you - when forced to actually perform anything more than basic tasks most of those trained employees would find themselves hard pressed to even recognize the difference between OpenOffice and MS Office much less find a bit of advanced functionality from the latter that they are familiar with that isn't in the former.
The same goes for most of the rest of the so-called productivity software - "training costs" really consist of the company now being accountable for addressing incompetence where previously the existing incompetence was just ignored because everyone lies and says they know how to use Office and nobody really knows it well enough to call anyone else out on it.
So in short my point is this: everyone just fakes it anyway. They should sack up and fake it with cheaper software they'll find its not functionally different for basic features and they can't even make use of advanced features so they don't have the right to be whining in the first place.
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Dude, seriously. I'm not trying to troll here. Can I get some honest first-hand accounts of its actual phone, SMS and voicemail capability/reliability from any AT&T customers using this thing in the greater Los Angeles Area? Any luck with actual 3g network access would be nice to hear about as well.
Thats what I heard, however said other company would need to spend some considerable effort and money in addressing some serious hardware design flaws as well as what is now nearly obsoleted network support before the phone is once again viable as a phone.
Only has the older, slower 2G technology, doesn't have 3G.
... and with AT&T poised to roll out 4G already and rumors of already crappy service using the OpenMoko on AT&T networks before that it seemed doomed from the start. Personally I would have bought one anyway if it wasn't for the forum posts I read suggesting that the phone boots Debian great and runs anything in the ARM port but had such abysmal audio quality you could barely actually use it for a phone. Basic functionality was clearly a neglected priority. :(
Traditional Unix curriculum switching over to *yawn* Microsoft funded curriculum ... *yaaawn* ... I'm just getting tired of saying it. Of course the education is to blame. And guess whose "black box" software is to blame for the shitty hands-off education? Guess! I dare you.
... thousands of Linux users question the relevance of Red Hat CEO.
He is and he's absolutely right - that would be completely fair. However he's forgotten that its a legal system we have in place not a justice system. The system just simply isn't built for complete fairness, and that is a problem in itself.
... is that not only are you completely right, you're also one of the few (perhaps 2% at most) of the entire consumer base (which of course includes law makers) that even would notice such a trend in PR practices in general. The bulk of the rest of the population either doesn't care enough to pay attention or isn't smart enough to.
I hate to say it, but realmolo is probably right. Odds on "weapons of mass destruction" being found in Sweden sometime in the very near future just shot up by 1000%.
... to Al-Qaeda!
Wow you're an idiot and you don't understand email. He's using the TARGET address to blacklist the IP ADDRESS from the SMTP CONNECTION. That's the envelope sender, not the mail header's return address.
Do your research before you start casting wild allegations around.
... instabilities and other security hazards. Install Mono? I think not.
I'll second that. Joomla is evil. Its designed to be bad so that you get stuck in it like quicksand then have to pay to get yourself out. Comments on their website claiming excitement about how its "good" should carefully be examined for age of post and reply count.
http://www.bsa.org/ It is completely anonymous.
Why would I - an open source advocate - suggest such a thing? Simple; Forcing people to use and learn from Linux (and thereby allowing Linux to learn from them in turn) is better than passively letting them steal MicroSoft products they can't afford which only improves MicroSoft's ability to leverage their installation base in illegally (in the US at least) anti-competitive practices. This will force MicroSoft to price their software at what its worth or make it worth what they charge.
Why would I claim to be a benevolent person who cares for the good of humanity with such apparently cruel intentions as forcing users to use Linux unwillingly? That answer is also simple but if you don't already know it then it is pointless for me to state it.
I agree. Can I please have a job now?
You forgot fat and ugly.
fruit bruises easily too
You're missing the point. Don't call people incompetent just because you don't understand or agree with the ideology - which in this case is what they're "believing" in, not licenses or tools or gods.
Just because its more distracting doesn't mean its bad for you.
... or maybe I'd better just slow down on the brandy.
Actually if you watch enough of the DS9 episodes you get a definite feel for exactly what you're describing; The Federation was generally to the non-Federation entities seen as very much a fascist empire-building dictatorship under the thin guise of diplomacy and scientific exploration. This isn't something you see so much in the other series because the events therein are centered almost entirely around the lives of a single relatively isolated crew of Federation officers.
And they were "science vessels," but FWIW blowing shit up with photon torpedoes *can* be very helpful for scientific research. :-D (see the plot lines for Star Trek II and Star Trek III for a notable reference to those of you who don't know what I'm talking about but actually care to)
Yea, but I want my money NOW, dammit.
Those "training costs" arguments are at least 99% bullshit though. You ever had an office job? How many of those people really know their way around MS Office? I've got news for you - when forced to actually perform anything more than basic tasks most of those trained employees would find themselves hard pressed to even recognize the difference between OpenOffice and MS Office much less find a bit of advanced functionality from the latter that they are familiar with that isn't in the former.
The same goes for most of the rest of the so-called productivity software - "training costs" really consist of the company now being accountable for addressing incompetence where previously the existing incompetence was just ignored because everyone lies and says they know how to use Office and nobody really knows it well enough to call anyone else out on it.
So in short my point is this: everyone just fakes it anyway. They should sack up and fake it with cheaper software they'll find its not functionally different for basic features and they can't even make use of advanced features so they don't have the right to be whining in the first place.
-5 not funny: strongly disagree and wish to censor.
Not until keyboard+mouse are the stock input devices for gaming consoles.
I've been saying this for decades but nobody listens till some fancy Cisco exec says it.