The main problem I have with this clip is that it was done with insincere intent- as is often the case with Stern. There's nothing scientific or objective about tricking people into saying something contradictory.
Um, just checking - you know that the Howard Stern show is a COMEDY show, right?
Also, they're not interviewing Stern's listeners; they're interviewing random people in Harlem. And they're certainly not saying this bit reflects badly on Obama; as an aside, Stern was a quite vocal Obama supporter once the nominations were set (Clinton was his first choice).
I would submit that the average Howard Stern listener is more educated than you give them credit for, considering how badly you've misjudged this entire clip. If anyone is guilty of something it's the guy who posted this clip in the first place with his own agenda in mind, not Howard Stern.
But why do you (the USA media and government) also portray the passengers of the other flights as heroes if they did nothing?
Citation needed.
You're really stretching in an effort to make your original point seem valid, in the face of a very good response that pretty much tore it to shreds in a rational manner. My advice is to quit while you're behind.
There's a middle ground, though, between the relative/friend method and the "dodgy torrent site." There are private torrent sites that are well-regulated and catch stuff like this pretty quick. My current site of choice (one of the oink replacements) dealt with this trojan a full 9 hours before this story hit slashdot.
It turned out the copy of iWork on the site didn't have the trojan, but making a note of that was a big help to anyone that might have been worried.
Really, if you think about it, the relative or friend of someone who downloaded the trojan-version from thepiratebay would be an almost innocent that could get fucked over. Most people don't regard it as a big deal if their geeky cousin comes over and installs some free software for them. You could make the argument that the casual, sometime-pirate was much more at risk from this than the people who know their way around private torrent sites and do tons of downloading.
I think his point was that whatever fixed-wing aircraft the president is flying on, its designation is Air Force One, even if he happens to be flying in a Cessna two-seater. The 747 that we think of when people say "Air Force One" only has that designation when the president is on it.
Just because it's in use by mainstream media (at times, that is - it's certainly not the preferred term) doesn't mean the average layperson knows what it means.
Which is all that guy was pointing out, in fact - using POTUS in non-military circles makes you look like a guy that likes to use obscure acronyms for no reason other than to look like a guy that knows the obscure acronym. Granted, it's not THAT obscure, but next time, just say "the president", ya know?
I realize that assuming "the president" means "of the USA" is very USA-centric, but then again, would someone from Europe know what POTUS means? Most Americans have no idea, so I would have to agree that the original poster lives too close to Hill AFB (like maybe, ON it).
I have to support the original response - I was in the military and I can tell you that's the ONLY reason I know what POTUS is on sight. If I said POTUS (or typed it in an email) to any of my lifelong-civilian friends most of them wouldn't have any clue what I was talking about.
Even if they figured it out, they would then say, "Why don't you just say 'The president', you jackass?"
I believe his point was that, in effect, a 10% sales tax across-the-board is really a regressive tax when you look at it in terms of income of poor, middle, and upper incomes.
It would appear that this theory, in this case, is nothing more than the urban geek legend that many accuse it of being. It's mentioned in TFS that this problem is occurring on the recent revision of the MacBook Air - the first revision. I bought one in April, and am very happy with my choice of laptop, and it's given me no problems.
As for your derisive "new bling" comment, I was in need of a new laptop (my old one was an ancient PowerBook G4), and I travel a lot, and I don't need an optical drive on my laptop - so the Air was almost as if I'd custom-ordered exactly what I wanted, and Apple delivered it.
And again, it's worked as well as any Mac product I've ever owned.
Well, now that I've RTFA (what's wrong with me?!?) and even TFS more closely, I see it's only an issue on the newer MacBook Air. A rare instance of the early adopters actually being slightly better off.
I never got into these games personally (I liked the RTS and first-person-shooters when I was gaming a lot), but part of me always assumed that kind of stuff, the persistent memory, if you will, was already implemented. I had no idea that was something that hadn't been developed already.
I'm not a programmer, so I don't really understand, why is it so difficult to have objectives that stay completed after you've completed them? Can someone enlighten me as to why that's a step that's still forthcoming?
We don't all pump our own gas. In NJ there's no self-service gas stations and the price of gas is still one of the lowest in the country. $3.47/gallon as I type this, at the station nearest me.
I'd agree with you, except that right after the blog line McCain said he "would have felt very much at home in the medium", obviously taking a cheap shot at bloggers as people who "dominate the conversation about anything and everything as if they knew the best approach and all others had nothing to offer."
The original poster very much got his point, methinks.
I kind of agree with this guy, and can't help but feel if he hadn't worded his argument as harshly as he did, he wouldn't have been modded troll.
Or maybe whoever modded him troll felt like he was attacking them personally, and the comments hitting so close to home made them mod him down. Whatever. I would've called it interesting, if nothing else. Even in the geek community there's geeks who embrace their geek status but are still embarrassed by other geeks and their ridiculous behavior.
I realize I risk getting modded down for supporting an angry AC, but I don't post AC myself, and I'm kind of proud of that, in a geeky sort of way.
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Drugs sell themselves, you don't need to have a market strategy to sell crack.
From reading this I can tell that not only have you never bought coke or heroin from a dealer, but that you also watch Chris Rock's comedy specials.
***WHOOSH***
The main problem I have with this clip is that it was done with insincere intent- as is often the case with Stern. There's nothing scientific or objective about tricking people into saying something contradictory.
Um, just checking - you know that the Howard Stern show is a COMEDY show, right?
Also, they're not interviewing Stern's listeners; they're interviewing random people in Harlem. And they're certainly not saying this bit reflects badly on Obama; as an aside, Stern was a quite vocal Obama supporter once the nominations were set (Clinton was his first choice).
I would submit that the average Howard Stern listener is more educated than you give them credit for, considering how badly you've misjudged this entire clip. If anyone is guilty of something it's the guy who posted this clip in the first place with his own agenda in mind, not Howard Stern.
That's why you should start your own business, so you get to dictate when you give half your income up
There's also a lot of extra tax "deductions" available down that road. Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, if only on a small scale.
But why do you (the USA media and government) also portray the passengers of the other flights as heroes if they did nothing?
Citation needed.
You're really stretching in an effort to make your original point seem valid, in the face of a very good response that pretty much tore it to shreds in a rational manner. My advice is to quit while you're behind.
There's a middle ground, though, between the relative/friend method and the "dodgy torrent site." There are private torrent sites that are well-regulated and catch stuff like this pretty quick. My current site of choice (one of the oink replacements) dealt with this trojan a full 9 hours before this story hit slashdot.
It turned out the copy of iWork on the site didn't have the trojan, but making a note of that was a big help to anyone that might have been worried.
Really, if you think about it, the relative or friend of someone who downloaded the trojan-version from thepiratebay would be an almost innocent that could get fucked over. Most people don't regard it as a big deal if their geeky cousin comes over and installs some free software for them. You could make the argument that the casual, sometime-pirate was much more at risk from this than the people who know their way around private torrent sites and do tons of downloading.
I think his point was that whatever fixed-wing aircraft the president is flying on, its designation is Air Force One, even if he happens to be flying in a Cessna two-seater. The 747 that we think of when people say "Air Force One" only has that designation when the president is on it.
Just because it's in use by mainstream media (at times, that is - it's certainly not the preferred term) doesn't mean the average layperson knows what it means.
Which is all that guy was pointing out, in fact - using POTUS in non-military circles makes you look like a guy that likes to use obscure acronyms for no reason other than to look like a guy that knows the obscure acronym. Granted, it's not THAT obscure, but next time, just say "the president", ya know?
I realize that assuming "the president" means "of the USA" is very USA-centric, but then again, would someone from Europe know what POTUS means? Most Americans have no idea, so I would have to agree that the original poster lives too close to Hill AFB (like maybe, ON it).
I have to support the original response - I was in the military and I can tell you that's the ONLY reason I know what POTUS is on sight. If I said POTUS (or typed it in an email) to any of my lifelong-civilian friends most of them wouldn't have any clue what I was talking about.
Even if they figured it out, they would then say, "Why don't you just say 'The president', you jackass?"
I believe his point was that, in effect, a 10% sales tax across-the-board is really a regressive tax when you look at it in terms of income of poor, middle, and upper incomes.
Am I the only one who, at first, read that as "if you get torched"?
I was very confused, for a moment, as to why someone who was lit on fire would be screaming their passwords.
It would appear that this theory, in this case, is nothing more than the urban geek legend that many accuse it of being. It's mentioned in TFS that this problem is occurring on the recent revision of the MacBook Air - the first revision. I bought one in April, and am very happy with my choice of laptop, and it's given me no problems.
As for your derisive "new bling" comment, I was in need of a new laptop (my old one was an ancient PowerBook G4), and I travel a lot, and I don't need an optical drive on my laptop - so the Air was almost as if I'd custom-ordered exactly what I wanted, and Apple delivered it.
And again, it's worked as well as any Mac product I've ever owned.
If you click on the pic, a larger version comes up and you can see the lines on that one.
Well, now that I've RTFA (what's wrong with me?!?) and even TFS more closely, I see it's only an issue on the newer MacBook Air. A rare instance of the early adopters actually being slightly better off.
In my statistical study of one sample unit (mine), I've had my eye on the display since April, and I have no complaints with it.
However, I do notice that it takes longer to find wireless networks than my old PowerBook used to. Not sure why this is.
No, the people, sorry, corporations, fighting *for* DRM don't line up, they just hire lobbyists and make lots and lots of campaign donations.
Which, as we've seen, is often far more effective.
My MacBook Air doesn't have a DVD player, you insensitive clod!
Oh, wait....
I'm not a programmer, so I don't really understand, why is it so difficult to have objectives that stay completed after you've completed them? Can someone enlighten me as to why that's a step that's still forthcoming?
That fraction must be 2/3.... we have some in Linden too but hey, two outta three ain't bad.
We don't all pump our own gas. In NJ there's no self-service gas stations and the price of gas is still one of the lowest in the country. $3.47/gallon as I type this, at the station nearest me.
I'd agree with you, except that right after the blog line McCain said he "would have felt very much at home in the medium", obviously taking a cheap shot at bloggers as people who "dominate the conversation about anything and everything as if they knew the best approach and all others had nothing to offer."
The original poster very much got his point, methinks.
No offense, but I had to Google that title just to make sure you were mentioning an actual song.
How about in the future, musical references are accessible to those of us under 45 as well?
Is it just me, or is there a lot of "well, yeah, duh!" reaction to the approaches this book seems to suggest?
Thank you for nailing it in a far more succinct manner than I would've ever been able to. For the love of god someone mod this comment up!
I kind of agree with this guy, and can't help but feel if he hadn't worded his argument as harshly as he did, he wouldn't have been modded troll.
Or maybe whoever modded him troll felt like he was attacking them personally, and the comments hitting so close to home made them mod him down. Whatever. I would've called it interesting, if nothing else. Even in the geek community there's geeks who embrace their geek status but are still embarrassed by other geeks and their ridiculous behavior.
I realize I risk getting modded down for supporting an angry AC, but I don't post AC myself, and I'm kind of proud of that, in a geeky sort of way.