They are special purpose CPUs which do one thing well, implementing a fast filter. The trouble is, they really suck at branching and I/O servicing like protocol stack handling, decoding messages and state-machines.
You are entirely missing the point because that IS the point of the DSP. It is a lean, mean, number crunching machine, that crunches those numbers extremely fast and with low power consumption. If you need to control pretty GUIs on the device's LCD screen, use an ARM or somesuch. Better yet, use OMAP and get both.
You're not going to run a cellphone for days without charging if you try to use MIPS or powerpc. You will if you use an OMAP.
Now you complain that your disagreement with the Free SOftware philosophy makes it harder to develop things and you want *us* to change?[...]If you want to be compatible with code produced under the GPL, the onus is on YOU to change to OUR license. Not for US to move to YOUR philosophy.
I never said anything of the sort. I didn't ask anyone to give up the GPL. If it works for you, then use it. It doesn't work for us, so we don't use it. To each their own.
Because for one, we want people to be able to take Eclipse and it's various open-source projects and be able to bundle their own, potentially closed source plugins and other components with it. The GPL, depending on interpretation, is not very condusive to loading and running other code at runtime (a la shared objects/DLLs).
The GNU philosophy, in a nutshell, is "we are opposed to commercial software." The Eclipse project encourages and enables commercial use. The more companies there are shipping Eclipse based products, the better it is for us.
Why support Microsofts non-free (as in free speach) tools in Eclipse?
Because we're open to everyone. The more people using Eclipse, the better it is for Eclipse. That's more users, more people fixing bugs, more people committing new features, etc. There are definitely people out there that would love a better IDE for Microsoft's tools, so why not give it to them? Why must it continue to cost money to make decent, native GUI apps in Windows if you want to use an IDE?
As a committer on the CDT Eclipse project, I can say right now that if you are doing doing win32 or MFC development, right now you'd be crazy to not use Visual Studio over Eclipse, unless you're willing to help work on the IDE support yourself.
Right now work is beginning in the CDT community on a prototypical debugger that uses the dbghelp APIs of Microsoft's free windows debugger (WinDbg). Work is also ongoing in the community on support for the Visual C++ compiler under CDT's Managed Build System. What's really needed right now is people to help out on these efforts, and someone to step up and make a windows resource editor (a la Eclipse's Visual Editor Project). We would love for CDT to be a serious (and free!) competitor to Visual Studio that required only the free debugger, compiler, and platform SDK downloads from Microsoft that are currently available... help us make it happen.
You forgot CDT Project for C and C++ development. The project is growing in popularity to the point where we're having our own developer's conference in a couple of weeks, totally separate from EclipseCon.
It's starting to seem like everyone and their brother that's doing a C/C++ IDE is standardizing on CDT. If the trend continues, perhaps one day we will unseat Visual Studio as king of the heap, although there is a long way to go still.
The most important thing I can say, regardless of your language of choice, is to grab a keyboard and lend a hand, if you're able, to your favourite project. Eclipse (and CDT especially) are community driven, and the best way you can help these tools succeed is by giving us some of your spare cycles, even if it's just filing the bugs that you find. If you submit patches for them along with the bug report we'll love you forever:-)
Also, piracy is counterproductive for true fans. If Firefly 2.0 gets on SciFi and 80% of you bootleg it, don't expect a third season.
There is a factor you're forgetting, which is a form of instant gratification.
For instance, I love the new Battlestar Galactica. I download it every time a new episode comes on. However, being the impatient one that I am, I don't wait to watch it until I download it if I can help it. Rather, I watch it when it's on "live" TV, and then download it after. The show isn't available for download prior to or even at the same time that it airs on the Sci-Fi Channel, so because I want to see it as soon as I can, I watch it "live" first, commercials and all. In cases like mine, the fact that I can download the show isn't hurting their viewership any.
Now, you can argue that the downloads could hurt potential DVD sales of the show, as once I've downloaded them in near-DVD quality and burned them to DVD-Rs, there is little incentive for me to go buy the real DVD when it eventually comes out for $large_sum, because even though the packaging and the menus will be nicer, it's not worth $50 or $100 CDN to me when I compare its incremental value to what I already have that is nearly as good, but nearly cost me nothing.
However, I would argue that even then the impact is not huge, because in theory I could tape the shows on my VCR, or record them to DivX myself with my TV-in on my video card, or whatever. The availabiliy of the downloads saves me the work of doing it myself, so I guess it makes the lazy more likely to get the free copies, but I would submit that pretty much anyone that REALLY wanted a copy of their own could somehow make one, even if it was a crappy VHS copy recorded manually while they watched the show.
You're able to see your dates wants and fears, and these are changed to stuff that's fairly easy to do on a date (eat out, tickle etc) so keeping your date happy is fairly easy.
Wow, I didn't realize they upped the ante so far on the Woo Hoo options...
I find, when walking down the street - that I've got my iPod's volume up to the highest level.
If you're using the default earbuds, I can see what you are saying. It's worth it to invest in Apple's in-ear headphones. They really do block out the noise better. I can be on a commuter train full of kids on a school trip and not have to pump my iPod above 50%. Same goes for walking down the busy streets of downtown Toronto during rush hour.
Not only do they block noise, but they just plain sound better. For $70 or so Canadian, you can't really go wrong. If you're going to buy one accessory for your iPod, choose the headphones.
The parts of Metrowerks related to Symbian were also bought up by Nokia, and rolled into their business. Nokia owns the Symbian specific IP, and hired the Symbian related talent, but still licenses tools technology from Metrowerks proper.
Is Eclipse any faster than when they first released it.
Actually yes. Performance was a major focal point for 3.1. Now that all the platform plugins are using OSGI bundle manifests and are all packaged as JAR files, things are much faster. Just starting up Eclipse used to take forever but it's much faster now.
Anyone know what the actual bandwidth is going to be like? Just because the wireless link in the plane is 802.11b doesn't mean that the connection will be remotely 10 Mb.
Is this a reputable program? Personally the thought of downloading an app off of the web that says outright that it's going to fudge my TCP/IP stack is a bit scary. On first glance there it's not available in source code form so that I can confirm that it's doing what it says.
I know me asking probably seems paranoid but I've had my TCP/IP stack infected by spyware and other assorted garbage before and it was a nightmare to deal with.
As a certified Canadian Shooting Sports Association club level safety instructor, and a shooting and hunting enthusiast, I am somewhat acquainted with the firearms laws in Canada. I feel a need to respond.
Canada does not have "ridiculous" gun laws.
That is a matter of opinion...
You want handguns, you stay a little longer in the course for the "Prohibited" weapons part, you write a second test, now you can own handguns.
Actually you mean "restricted" firearms. Most handguns are restricted firearms, which means that you must have an Authorization to Transport (ATT) to transport them anywhere from whence they are stored (which is typically restricted to only your dwelling home), and this transportation must be with the firearm unloaded; rendered inoperative by means of a secure locking device; and contained in an opaque, locked container which is not easily broken open or into. You also must provide a reason at the time of purchase as to why you want to obtain the firearm. In practice this means you either must be a member of a gun club who wishes to obtain the firearm for target practice at a target range approved by the Chief Firearms Officer for your province, or you must be a bona fide collector. If you take the gun club route, you will be given an ATT that will let you take your firearms to the range, but to nowhere else. If you take the collector route, you get no ATTs at all other than to take your purchase home. You can apply for temporary ATTs for other purposes (repair at a gun smith, consigment sale at a gun store, etc.). Note however that "self defence" is not considered an acceptable reason to wish to purchase a restricted firearm, and will probably result in all sorts of red flags being raised about you, visits from the police, etc.
Prohibited firearms are another class, and covers everything from full-autos, to short barelled handguns (although why having your handgun barrel a few millimeteres shorter is going to make it suddenly a tool of evil is beyond me). It is illegal to import these types of firearms without a special business license -- basically only if you are a "gun wrangler" for the entertainment industry, or if you are a supplier of firearms for police and military applications. People that owned these types of firearms prior to the various dates on which the different classes were banned are grandfathered to continue to own them, but for the most part are unable to do anything but look at them, as the only types allowed to be transported and fired even at an approved range are restricted to the 12(6) class of short barelled handguns. All other types require a Special Authority to Possess to transport and can only be test fired at a range approved and operated by the Department of Defence. Good luck getting the Army to let you on base to test out your guns in the current political climate.
Since we do not allow concealed weapons here in Canada, in order to use your handgun you have to have a range membership and transport is only allowed between your place of residence and the range. That isn't that bad.
For one, I personally have a problem with not being able to defend myself from attack by criminals.
For second, the level of hassle that this provides varies from province to province. In Ontario, it's not so bad, as we are given ATTs that are good 24/7 to go to any approved range in Ontario with any restricted firearms and prohibited handguns registered to our residence, so long as the route is "reasonably direct". In other provinces though, you get the third degree, and they want to know what range you're going to, with which particular guns, what route you're taking to drive there, etc. There are all kinds of potentials of abuse for that information if the police just happen to decide to do a "random" traffic stop along your route at the time they know you're going to be there.
The lovely part about all of this red tape is that most of it is not legislated at all, a
If you are an Eclipse developer, this isn't all that suprising. IBM as of late has been pretty giving in terms of Open Source. This would also appear to preemptively iron out any potential patent issues with their donation of Eclipse.
From the Eclipse Public License (emphasis mine):
2. GRANT OF RIGHTS
a) *snip*
b) Subject to the terms of this Agreement, each Contributor hereby grants Recipient a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell, offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Contribution of such Contributor, if any, in source code and object code form. This patent license shall apply to the combination of the Contribution and the Program if, at the time the Contribution is added by the Contributor, such addition of the Contribution causes such combination to be covered by the Licensed Patents. The patent license shall not apply to any other combinations which include the Contribution. No hardware per se is licensed hereunder.
Basically if you submit code to eclipse.org that is covered under a patent you own, you automagically grant them a patent license. This now sort of gives everyone at IBM and elsewhere the go-ahead to use the tricks governed by these software patents in the development of Eclipse. Who knows, maybe these techniques have been used already and they're just extending the courtesy to the whole world now that anyone with Eclipse already has a royalty free license.
A lot of these also look like they could be directly appliccable to Linux (if they aren't already). E.g.,
US6317811 Method and system for reissuing load requests in a multi-stream prefetch
design
US6298435 Methods and apparatus for exploiting virtual buffers to increase instruction
parallelism in a pipelined processor
US6298417 Pipelined cache memory deallocation and storeback
US6286094 Method and system for optimizing the fetching of dispatch groups in a
superscalar processor
This seems stupid to me even when just looking at the military's own needs, let alone the needs of the police, aviation, etc.
I remember watching a special on the Discovery Channel (or maybe it was History? doesn't matter) that did an interview with an Air Force guy whose job it was to scout around on the ground, call in airstrikes on a location, and paint the target with a laser so that the planes could take it out with laser guided munitions.
He would take a GPS reading of his current location, then use a laser range finder, an electronic compass, and a bit of math to come up with a lat/long reading for the target, which was usually several kilometres away. This would get the planes in the right spot and once they were there the laser guidance would do the rest.
Problem was, the US issue GPS they gave him was HUGE. We are talking the size of a ham radio here, weighing around five pounds or perhaps more. Nobody in that job uses the issued GPS. Instead they order a civilian GPS and use that instead because they are tiny and weigh as much as a ham sandwich and not as much a ham radio.
I'm sure there are plenty of other military people out there doing the same thing.
If they turn off civilian GPS altogether they might just be screwing their own troops.
Sure, but due to the cutbacks in defence spending over the past 20 years, Bob's the only one left with a rifle. He's cleaning it right now, but the moment he's done we'll issue him a magazine of ammunition that's about to expire its best before date, buy him a cheap Greyhound ticket to Washington, and have him politely demand your surrender "if it's not too much trouble."
You make a good point; TI is no friend to open source or Free software.
I wouldn't agree with such a blanket statement. TI is currently contributing actively to Eclipse, for example.
They are special purpose CPUs which do one thing well, implementing a fast filter. The trouble is, they really suck at branching and I/O servicing like protocol stack handling, decoding messages and state-machines.
You are entirely missing the point because that IS the point of the DSP. It is a lean, mean, number crunching machine, that crunches those numbers extremely fast and with low power consumption. If you need to control pretty GUIs on the device's LCD screen, use an ARM or somesuch. Better yet, use OMAP and get both.
You're not going to run a cellphone for days without charging if you try to use MIPS or powerpc. You will if you use an OMAP.
Now you complain that your disagreement with the Free SOftware philosophy makes it harder to develop things and you want *us* to change?[...]If you want to be compatible with code produced under the GPL, the onus is on YOU to change to OUR license. Not for US to move to YOUR philosophy.
I never said anything of the sort. I didn't ask anyone to give up the GPL. If it works for you, then use it. It doesn't work for us, so we don't use it. To each their own.
WHy don't those other projects just use the GPL?
Because for one, we want people to be able to take Eclipse and it's various open-source projects and be able to bundle their own, potentially closed source plugins and other components with it. The GPL, depending on interpretation, is not very condusive to loading and running other code at runtime (a la shared objects/DLLs).
The GNU philosophy, in a nutshell, is "we are opposed to commercial software." The Eclipse project encourages and enables commercial use. The more companies there are shipping Eclipse based products, the better it is for us.
Anybody got a DVD of Dance of the Vampires they can let me copy then?
Actually, since according to IMDB this movie is just the Fearless Vampire Hunters by another name, you are in luck as it was recently released to DVD
Mechanik
Why support Microsofts non-free (as in free speach) tools in Eclipse?
Because we're open to everyone. The more people using Eclipse, the better it is for Eclipse. That's more users, more people fixing bugs, more people committing new features, etc. There are definitely people out there that would love a better IDE for Microsoft's tools, so why not give it to them? Why must it continue to cost money to make decent, native GUI apps in Windows if you want to use an IDE?
As a committer on the CDT Eclipse project, I can say right now that if you are doing doing win32 or MFC development, right now you'd be crazy to not use Visual Studio over Eclipse, unless you're willing to help work on the IDE support yourself.
Right now work is beginning in the CDT community on a prototypical debugger that uses the dbghelp APIs of Microsoft's free windows debugger (WinDbg). Work is also ongoing in the community on support for the Visual C++ compiler under CDT's Managed Build System. What's really needed right now is people to help out on these efforts, and someone to step up and make a windows resource editor (a la Eclipse's Visual Editor Project). We would love for CDT to be a serious (and free!) competitor to Visual Studio that required only the free debugger, compiler, and platform SDK downloads from Microsoft that are currently available... help us make it happen.
You forgot CDT Project for C and C++ development. The project is growing in popularity to the point where we're having our own developer's conference in a couple of weeks, totally separate from EclipseCon.
:-)
It's starting to seem like everyone and their brother that's doing a C/C++ IDE is standardizing on CDT. If the trend continues, perhaps one day we will unseat Visual Studio as king of the heap, although there is a long way to go still.
The most important thing I can say, regardless of your language of choice, is to grab a keyboard and lend a hand, if you're able, to your favourite project. Eclipse (and CDT especially) are community driven, and the best way you can help these tools succeed is by giving us some of your spare cycles, even if it's just filing the bugs that you find. If you submit patches for them along with the bug report we'll love you forever
Makes you wonder where they get the ideas from. Hypothetically speaking, I'd probably mark my chip with a giant penis. Why? The world may never know.
Dude, if your idea of "giant" is 18 microns, I'd hate to be your significant other...
Also, piracy is counterproductive for true fans. If Firefly 2.0 gets on SciFi and 80% of you bootleg it, don't expect a third season.
There is a factor you're forgetting, which is a form of instant gratification.
For instance, I love the new Battlestar Galactica. I download it every time a new episode comes on. However, being the impatient one that I am, I don't wait to watch it until I download it if I can help it. Rather, I watch it when it's on "live" TV, and then download it after. The show isn't available for download prior to or even at the same time that it airs on the Sci-Fi Channel, so because I want to see it as soon as I can, I watch it "live" first, commercials and all. In cases like mine, the fact that I can download the show isn't hurting their viewership any.
Now, you can argue that the downloads could hurt potential DVD sales of the show, as once I've downloaded them in near-DVD quality and burned them to DVD-Rs, there is little incentive for me to go buy the real DVD when it eventually comes out for $large_sum, because even though the packaging and the menus will be nicer, it's not worth $50 or $100 CDN to me when I compare its incremental value to what I already have that is nearly as good, but nearly cost me nothing.
However, I would argue that even then the impact is not huge, because in theory I could tape the shows on my VCR, or record them to DivX myself with my TV-in on my video card, or whatever. The availabiliy of the downloads saves me the work of doing it myself, so I guess it makes the lazy more likely to get the free copies, but I would submit that pretty much anyone that REALLY wanted a copy of their own could somehow make one, even if it was a crappy VHS copy recorded manually while they watched the show.
Mechanik
You're able to see your dates wants and fears, and these are changed to stuff that's fairly easy to do on a date (eat out, tickle etc) so keeping your date happy is fairly easy.
Wow, I didn't realize they upped the ante so far on the Woo Hoo options...
I find, when walking down the street - that I've got my iPod's volume up to the highest level.
If you're using the default earbuds, I can see what you are saying. It's worth it to invest in Apple's in-ear headphones. They really do block out the noise better. I can be on a commuter train full of kids on a school trip and not have to pump my iPod above 50%. Same goes for walking down the busy streets of downtown Toronto during rush hour.
Not only do they block noise, but they just plain sound better. For $70 or so Canadian, you can't really go wrong. If you're going to buy one accessory for your iPod, choose the headphones.
The parts of Metrowerks related to Symbian were also bought up by Nokia, and rolled into their business. Nokia owns the Symbian specific IP, and hired the Symbian related talent, but still licenses tools technology from Metrowerks proper.
Is Eclipse any faster than when they first released it.
Actually yes. Performance was a major focal point for 3.1. Now that all the platform plugins are using OSGI bundle manifests and are all packaged as JAR files, things are much faster. Just starting up Eclipse used to take forever but it's much faster now.
I'm still not joining the Army until they invent the respawn point.
Don't do it man! The last time I tried their prototype I came out all covered with black stuff...
Anyone know what the actual bandwidth is going to be like? Just because the wireless link in the plane is 802.11b doesn't mean that the connection will be remotely 10 Mb.
Is this a reputable program? Personally the thought of downloading an app off of the web that says outright that it's going to fudge my TCP/IP stack is a bit scary. On first glance there it's not available in source code form so that I can confirm that it's doing what it says.
I know me asking probably seems paranoid but I've had my TCP/IP stack infected by spyware and other assorted garbage before and it was a nightmare to deal with.
As a certified Canadian Shooting Sports Association club level safety instructor, and a shooting and hunting enthusiast, I am somewhat acquainted with the firearms laws in Canada. I feel a need to respond.
Canada does not have "ridiculous" gun laws.
That is a matter of opinion...
You want handguns, you stay a little longer in the course for the "Prohibited" weapons part, you write a second test, now you can own handguns.
Actually you mean "restricted" firearms. Most handguns are restricted firearms, which means that you must have an Authorization to Transport (ATT) to transport them anywhere from whence they are stored (which is typically restricted to only your dwelling home), and this transportation must be with the firearm unloaded; rendered inoperative by means of a secure locking device; and contained in an opaque, locked container which is not easily broken open or into. You also must provide a reason at the time of purchase as to why you want to obtain the firearm. In practice this means you either must be a member of a gun club who wishes to obtain the firearm for target practice at a target range approved by the Chief Firearms Officer for your province, or you must be a bona fide collector. If you take the gun club route, you will be given an ATT that will let you take your firearms to the range, but to nowhere else. If you take the collector route, you get no ATTs at all other than to take your purchase home. You can apply for temporary ATTs for other purposes (repair at a gun smith, consigment sale at a gun store, etc.). Note however that "self defence" is not considered an acceptable reason to wish to purchase a restricted firearm, and will probably result in all sorts of red flags being raised about you, visits from the police, etc.
Prohibited firearms are another class, and covers everything from full-autos, to short barelled handguns (although why having your handgun barrel a few millimeteres shorter is going to make it suddenly a tool of evil is beyond me). It is illegal to import these types of firearms without a special business license -- basically only if you are a "gun wrangler" for the entertainment industry, or if you are a supplier of firearms for police and military applications. People that owned these types of firearms prior to the various dates on which the different classes were banned are grandfathered to continue to own them, but for the most part are unable to do anything but look at them, as the only types allowed to be transported and fired even at an approved range are restricted to the 12(6) class of short barelled handguns. All other types require a Special Authority to Possess to transport and can only be test fired at a range approved and operated by the Department of Defence. Good luck getting the Army to let you on base to test out your guns in the current political climate.
Since we do not allow concealed weapons here in Canada, in order to use your handgun you have to have a range membership and transport is only allowed between your place of residence and the range. That isn't that bad.
For one, I personally have a problem with not being able to defend myself from attack by criminals.
For second, the level of hassle that this provides varies from province to province. In Ontario, it's not so bad, as we are given ATTs that are good 24/7 to go to any approved range in Ontario with any restricted firearms and prohibited handguns registered to our residence, so long as the route is "reasonably direct". In other provinces though, you get the third degree, and they want to know what range you're going to, with which particular guns, what route you're taking to drive there, etc. There are all kinds of potentials of abuse for that information if the police just happen to decide to do a "random" traffic stop along your route at the time they know you're going to be there.
The lovely part about all of this red tape is that most of it is not legislated at all, a
LOL, touché...
Once you have your characteristics you can build a three dimensional vector out of a song.
Don't you mean an n-dimensional vector? Wouldn't it be only three dimensional if they're only measuring three characteristics?
Mechanik
If you are an Eclipse developer, this isn't all that suprising. IBM as of late has been pretty giving in terms of Open Source. This would also appear to preemptively iron out any potential patent issues with their donation of Eclipse.
From the Eclipse Public License (emphasis mine):
2. GRANT OF RIGHTS
a) *snip*
b) Subject to the terms of this Agreement, each Contributor hereby grants Recipient a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under Licensed Patents to make, use, sell, offer to sell, import and otherwise transfer the Contribution of such Contributor, if any, in source code and object code form. This patent license shall apply to the combination of the Contribution and the Program if, at the time the Contribution is added by the Contributor, such addition of the Contribution causes such combination to be covered by the Licensed Patents. The patent license shall not apply to any other combinations which include the Contribution. No hardware per se is licensed hereunder.
Basically if you submit code to eclipse.org that is covered under a patent you own, you automagically grant them a patent license. This now sort of gives everyone at IBM and elsewhere the go-ahead to use the tricks governed by these software patents in the development of Eclipse. Who knows, maybe these techniques have been used already and they're just extending the courtesy to the whole world now that anyone with Eclipse already has a royalty free license.
A lot of these also look like they could be directly appliccable to Linux (if they aren't already). E.g.,
US6317811 Method and system for reissuing load requests in a multi-stream prefetch design
US6298435 Methods and apparatus for exploiting virtual buffers to increase instruction parallelism in a pipelined processor
US6298417 Pipelined cache memory deallocation and storeback
US6286094 Method and system for optimizing the fetching of dispatch groups in a superscalar processor
US6279105 Pipelined two-cycle branch target address cache
US6266767 Apparatus and method for facilitating out-of-order execution of load instructions
US6240474 Pipelined read transfers
US6237081 Queuing method and apparatus for facilitating the rejection of sequential instructions in a processor
US6219743 Apparatus for dynamic resource mapping for isolating interrupt sources and method therefore
US6202128 Method and system for pre-fetch cache interrogation using snoop port
US6189065 Method and apparatus for interrupt load balancing for powerPC processors
US5659722 Multiple condition code branching system in a multi-processor environment
Etc.
Putting these patents out there now would prevent any future SCO-like BS if some asshat takes over IBM someday.
All in all I'd say this is totally a good thing.
Mechanik
I don't know anyone else still playing network games from 1996 except for Quake.
:-P
Your point, in general, is taken, but there are those of us that still enjoy a game of Netrek now and then
Shit, now I feel old...
Mechanik
This seems stupid to me even when just looking at the military's own needs, let alone the needs of the police, aviation, etc.
I remember watching a special on the Discovery Channel (or maybe it was History? doesn't matter) that did an interview with an Air Force guy whose job it was to scout around on the ground, call in airstrikes on a location, and paint the target with a laser so that the planes could take it out with laser guided munitions.
He would take a GPS reading of his current location, then use a laser range finder, an electronic compass, and a bit of math to come up with a lat/long reading for the target, which was usually several kilometres away. This would get the planes in the right spot and once they were there the laser guidance would do the rest.
Problem was, the US issue GPS they gave him was HUGE. We are talking the size of a ham radio here, weighing around five pounds or perhaps more. Nobody in that job uses the issued GPS. Instead they order a civilian GPS and use that instead because they are tiny and weigh as much as a ham sandwich and not as much a ham radio.
I'm sure there are plenty of other military people out there doing the same thing. If they turn off civilian GPS altogether they might just be screwing their own troops.
Mechanik
Would you Canadians just invade us, please?
Sure, but due to the cutbacks in defence spending over the past 20 years, Bob's the only one left with a rifle. He's cleaning it right now, but the moment he's done we'll issue him a magazine of ammunition that's about to expire its best before date, buy him a cheap Greyhound ticket to Washington, and have him politely demand your surrender "if it's not too much trouble."
Mechanik
Oh man, better start listening again to all those Fat Boys cassettes that I listened to when I was ten! Buff Love, The Human Beat Box!
Whatever happened to those guys anyway? They dropped off of the face of the earth around 1990 or so it seems.
Mechanik