I agree, it is sick. I can only hope that this becomes a trend for companies trying to sue their way into a profit margin through fear. It's ugly and despicable that it has even gone this far before someone was awarded their lawyer fees.
Ok, I'm just gonna poke a couple holes and it won't hurt too much, I promise. First Abu Ghraib, do you honestly think that the government wanted that to be a secret. They didn't even know what was going on there, secret things are handled by people with *gasp* security clearances. How many of those guys do you think that were working there have them? The correct answer for the people directly involved with the offenses is none and if any of them did they have now lost them. The point being is that facility was in no way whatsoever secure or secret. Now for Cambodia, I can't say too much about that since it was before my time and I'm too lazy to read up on it so I'm going agree with you there that it may have been incompetence. Wiretapping citizens, again they employed a civilian company full of people that do not have security clearances. Have you ever met anyone in the NSA? I mean the guys that do the real work? Let me tell you those are some scary smart guys and they can think about things from more angles than you can imagine. They knew that eventually it would get out and you know what, I'm pretty sure that they counted on that fact.
Wow, I'm shocked and amazed that it took this long for this to appear. Honestly what has/. come to when I have to read through 2/3 of the page just to get some overlord action.
Honestly I don't think they expect anyone to believe them. What probably happened is they thought that they had a great idea and didn't bother to run it through the legal dept. (if they even have one) and realized now that they really screwed the pooch. So they issue a statement like this to hopefully stave off the eventual and inevitable legal actions that are going take place.
In all seriousness I have stopped supporting the Music industry all together. I don't buy music, I don't download music, and I barely listen to the radio. When they fix their business model maybe I'll think about actually doing it again. As it is, I love classical, sympony orchestra and live blues/jazz so I can get my fix with live shows and for everything else it's public domain.
I'm not all that familiar with dansguardian, but have you tried to mount a remote file system into DD-WRT and install the software in that? I've done this so that I can have the router access data on my computer, but haven't done it yet to run any applications.
OHHHHH NOOOEEESSS! Teh trrists r in ur skools stealin ur secrets!
Seriously though, when does it end? At what point do we say enough is enough with this fearmongering?
Ok, this guy is a journalist. Not a geek so he is speaking from the average user point of view and doesn't need your credibility card. All he was trying to do is see if an average business USER would be able to use the OS effectively.
You know, that was meant to be funny but it's very true. Example, there was a woman in one of the stores that I was in one time looking to buy a wireless router for her house. I don't usually jump into things like this, but I was killing time waiting for my oil change and this salesman was an idiot. He was telling her that she NEEDED to buy the oh so great wireless N draft 1 router and going on and on about features that I'm sure he had no knowledge of since none of it really came with the router. I asked her what she needed the router for and her reply was of course "Oh, just to surf the internet and check my email that sort of thing". So I explained that she could probably get away with a much cheaper wireless G router that was around $40. This guy got angry and proceeded to tell me all about how he knew more than I did since he's going to school for computer Graphic design. I get this a lot since people look at me and think (hmmm, early twenties what does he know?), but he was a little taken aback when I gave him my credentials. The point being that this isn't the first time this has happened at a Best Buy and probably won't be the last, so to all you Best Buy salesmen out there don't think you're the hottest shit on the block because I can guarentee you that there is someone hotter out there.
How about no one gives a shit. Nobody is being forced to use google if they don't want to that I'm aware of and I don't think that any government should really care all that much how long or if a company chooses to keep the data of its service's users. Really this is a non-issue to me.
Ok, having dealt with the systems in question I'll explain a little how it works. Basically they hook one cell phone to the bomb via electronic leads soldered to the ringer or vibrating component of the phone which trip some mechanism inside to cause the bomb to go off. They are not usually set to the frequency since then any cell phone could set it off potentially. So they set it up to be keyed to a specific phone number in other words which gives them control of when the explosion will occur. The jamming system just blankets out the entire range of freqs and the call can't get through to the right number that way. So no it won't set off the bomb, pretty much it will never go off because once the opportunity has passed they won't want to set it off anymore. Now some of the others that replied with something to the effect of them wanting it to go off and cause a media event take off the tinfoil hat for a second and consider what I wrote since I have seen the Army Warlock system in action and can attest to its effectiveness in not letting the bomb go off at all.
Here, let me help you out a little. I happen to know the guys from the apache farmer video. Think about it for a second, it's night....late at night. How many people do you know work on farm equipment in the dark late at night? Also when we went out there after all of this you know what we found? Oh, wow missiles and rockets, the only reason that they didn't shoot at the Apache is that they didn't know where it was. When you can't tell the enemy from the guys that aren't the enemy bad shit happens. No, it's not right but it happens, just because you didn't hear about it in other wars doesn't mean that it doesn't happen either. Oh, and blowing up a Mosque we only do when there is good reason (think bombs) to do so. You're going to believe what you're going to believe no matter what someone tells you, but everything you see on Youtube and the TV isn't necessarily what the person showing it to you tells you it is. Also before you go waving around the Geneva convention about shit you may want to read it, I remember reading somewhere that if the enemy doesn't follow it you don't have to either and I do remember some videos of people having their head sawed off among other things. I feel for the Iraqis, as did most of my compatriots in Iraq but it's not our fault if shit happens... we cannot I repeat cannot tell the difference between the enemy from the innocents so some innocents do get caught in the crossfire. How about you blame the suits who put us there in the first place? I sure as hell didn't want to go and most people in the military are not the bloodthirsty sick fucks you seem to think we are. That's why I got out of the military, I saw way too much and couldn't stand the thought of my little girl never knowing who her daddy was. Nor could I stand to see another little girl dead in the street because some asshole decided to start shooting and grabber her to use as a shield. That made me equal parts angry and sick, I actually vomited when it was over and sometimes I have nightmare because of it. Oh, but you don't see those videos do you?! You also don't see the videos of the guys walking into a crowd of schoolchildren and then setting off a bomb hoping to get one or two soldiers do you? No, because you want to fervently to believe that the soldiers in the service are bloodthirsty animals to soothe your conscience for some strange reason. So you sir can fuck off and maybe try to get your facts straight.
As I once read somewhere, the police aren't there to protect you from lawbreakers. They're only there to do the paperwork after you have failed to protect yourself. I fully agree with you, I support owning a gun and I'll never use it on anyone unless they give me a damn good reason. For example breaking into my house, it's not my fault you decided to take a risk and break into my house which makes your life forfeit. The people who think that it's somehow immoral to shoot someone that broke into your house have obviously never been the object of any kind of violence.
Well if you look at the theoretical progression of the start of the universe from the big bang that's about when stars started forming and 500 million years is about 0.36496350 of the total life of the universe thus far if they're right. The big bang didn't just go BANG! ZOMG STARS!!!!!1111!!111!one1!
Thank you, you cannot imagine how much little things like that mean to people like me. Yeah, I volunteered but not for the war in Iraq. I volunteered to fight as necessary so that my kids could have the chance for peace in their lifetime, to help pay for school that I wouldn't have been able to go to, and to get out of a dead end town and make something for myself. Because of the military I'm one of the very very few success stories that ever came out of my hometown. So thank you for at least understanding that not everything is as starkly black and white as some people in this place seem to think it is.
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I agree, it is sick. I can only hope that this becomes a trend for companies trying to sue their way into a profit margin through fear. It's ugly and despicable that it has even gone this far before someone was awarded their lawyer fees.
What's sad is that I could read that almost without missing a beat.
Human existence on this planet doesn't go over well with the environmentalists.
Ok, I'm just gonna poke a couple holes and it won't hurt too much, I promise. First Abu Ghraib, do you honestly think that the government wanted that to be a secret. They didn't even know what was going on there, secret things are handled by people with *gasp* security clearances. How many of those guys do you think that were working there have them? The correct answer for the people directly involved with the offenses is none and if any of them did they have now lost them. The point being is that facility was in no way whatsoever secure or secret. Now for Cambodia, I can't say too much about that since it was before my time and I'm too lazy to read up on it so I'm going agree with you there that it may have been incompetence. Wiretapping citizens, again they employed a civilian company full of people that do not have security clearances. Have you ever met anyone in the NSA? I mean the guys that do the real work? Let me tell you those are some scary smart guys and they can think about things from more angles than you can imagine. They knew that eventually it would get out and you know what, I'm pretty sure that they counted on that fact.
Wow, I'm shocked and amazed that it took this long for this to appear. Honestly what has /. come to when I have to read through 2/3 of the page just to get some overlord action.
Honestly I don't think they expect anyone to believe them. What probably happened is they thought that they had a great idea and didn't bother to run it through the legal dept. (if they even have one) and realized now that they really screwed the pooch. So they issue a statement like this to hopefully stave off the eventual and inevitable legal actions that are going take place.
In all seriousness I have stopped supporting the Music industry all together. I don't buy music, I don't download music, and I barely listen to the radio. When they fix their business model maybe I'll think about actually doing it again. As it is, I love classical, sympony orchestra and live blues/jazz so I can get my fix with live shows and for everything else it's public domain.
But does it run Vista?
That's good to know, thank you.
"P.S. please if you get a chanse put some flowrs on Algernons grave in the bak yard."
I'm not all that familiar with dansguardian, but have you tried to mount a remote file system into DD-WRT and install the software in that? I've done this so that I can have the router access data on my computer, but haven't done it yet to run any applications.
OHHHHH NOOOEEESSS! Teh trrists r in ur skools stealin ur secrets! Seriously though, when does it end? At what point do we say enough is enough with this fearmongering?
when I think "FUCK YEAH, STICK IT TO THEM". Man I should have fits like that a little more often, it's liberating.
Ok, this guy is a journalist. Not a geek so he is speaking from the average user point of view and doesn't need your credibility card. All he was trying to do is see if an average business USER would be able to use the OS effectively.
You know, that was meant to be funny but it's very true. Example, there was a woman in one of the stores that I was in one time looking to buy a wireless router for her house. I don't usually jump into things like this, but I was killing time waiting for my oil change and this salesman was an idiot. He was telling her that she NEEDED to buy the oh so great wireless N draft 1 router and going on and on about features that I'm sure he had no knowledge of since none of it really came with the router. I asked her what she needed the router for and her reply was of course "Oh, just to surf the internet and check my email that sort of thing". So I explained that she could probably get away with a much cheaper wireless G router that was around $40. This guy got angry and proceeded to tell me all about how he knew more than I did since he's going to school for computer Graphic design. I get this a lot since people look at me and think (hmmm, early twenties what does he know?), but he was a little taken aback when I gave him my credentials. The point being that this isn't the first time this has happened at a Best Buy and probably won't be the last, so to all you Best Buy salesmen out there don't think you're the hottest shit on the block because I can guarentee you that there is someone hotter out there.
How about no one gives a shit. Nobody is being forced to use google if they don't want to that I'm aware of and I don't think that any government should really care all that much how long or if a company chooses to keep the data of its service's users. Really this is a non-issue to me.
Exactly, I never heard of it before this. Now I'm going to buy one for my wife just to see it in action.
I like Koolaid.
Ok, having dealt with the systems in question I'll explain a little how it works. Basically they hook one cell phone to the bomb via electronic leads soldered to the ringer or vibrating component of the phone which trip some mechanism inside to cause the bomb to go off. They are not usually set to the frequency since then any cell phone could set it off potentially. So they set it up to be keyed to a specific phone number in other words which gives them control of when the explosion will occur. The jamming system just blankets out the entire range of freqs and the call can't get through to the right number that way. So no it won't set off the bomb, pretty much it will never go off because once the opportunity has passed they won't want to set it off anymore. Now some of the others that replied with something to the effect of them wanting it to go off and cause a media event take off the tinfoil hat for a second and consider what I wrote since I have seen the Army Warlock system in action and can attest to its effectiveness in not letting the bomb go off at all.
Here, let me help you out a little. I happen to know the guys from the apache farmer video. Think about it for a second, it's night....late at night. How many people do you know work on farm equipment in the dark late at night? Also when we went out there after all of this you know what we found? Oh, wow missiles and rockets, the only reason that they didn't shoot at the Apache is that they didn't know where it was. When you can't tell the enemy from the guys that aren't the enemy bad shit happens. No, it's not right but it happens, just because you didn't hear about it in other wars doesn't mean that it doesn't happen either. Oh, and blowing up a Mosque we only do when there is good reason (think bombs) to do so. You're going to believe what you're going to believe no matter what someone tells you, but everything you see on Youtube and the TV isn't necessarily what the person showing it to you tells you it is. Also before you go waving around the Geneva convention about shit you may want to read it, I remember reading somewhere that if the enemy doesn't follow it you don't have to either and I do remember some videos of people having their head sawed off among other things. I feel for the Iraqis, as did most of my compatriots in Iraq but it's not our fault if shit happens... we cannot I repeat cannot tell the difference between the enemy from the innocents so some innocents do get caught in the crossfire. How about you blame the suits who put us there in the first place? I sure as hell didn't want to go and most people in the military are not the bloodthirsty sick fucks you seem to think we are. That's why I got out of the military, I saw way too much and couldn't stand the thought of my little girl never knowing who her daddy was. Nor could I stand to see another little girl dead in the street because some asshole decided to start shooting and grabber her to use as a shield. That made me equal parts angry and sick, I actually vomited when it was over and sometimes I have nightmare because of it. Oh, but you don't see those videos do you?! You also don't see the videos of the guys walking into a crowd of schoolchildren and then setting off a bomb hoping to get one or two soldiers do you? No, because you want to fervently to believe that the soldiers in the service are bloodthirsty animals to soothe your conscience for some strange reason. So you sir can fuck off and maybe try to get your facts straight.
Wow, tinfoil hat much?
As I once read somewhere, the police aren't there to protect you from lawbreakers. They're only there to do the paperwork after you have failed to protect yourself. I fully agree with you, I support owning a gun and I'll never use it on anyone unless they give me a damn good reason. For example breaking into my house, it's not my fault you decided to take a risk and break into my house which makes your life forfeit. The people who think that it's somehow immoral to shoot someone that broke into your house have obviously never been the object of any kind of violence.
Well if you look at the theoretical progression of the start of the universe from the big bang that's about when stars started forming and 500 million years is about 0.36496350 of the total life of the universe thus far if they're right. The big bang didn't just go BANG! ZOMG STARS!!!!!1111!!111!one1!
By the way I chose sheepdog.
Thank you, you cannot imagine how much little things like that mean to people like me. Yeah, I volunteered but not for the war in Iraq. I volunteered to fight as necessary so that my kids could have the chance for peace in their lifetime, to help pay for school that I wouldn't have been able to go to, and to get out of a dead end town and make something for myself. Because of the military I'm one of the very very few success stories that ever came out of my hometown. So thank you for at least understanding that not everything is as starkly black and white as some people in this place seem to think it is.